Poll showed Americans were clueless about the World Cup.
Hortical
about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
Source: Soccer America, July 20, page 5
Oliver Tse
Remeber the US has 300 million people.
300 million x 19% = 57 million.
Also, you must remember that similar polls indicate that about the same
percentage of Americans can't even find the US on a world map!
In other words, RELAX!
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Oliver Tse
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Steve Jones
> The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
> about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
> showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
> soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
> television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
Personally I still say that this is pretty good. I've seen worse surveys
from the States on things like "Currency's of the world" "Political Leaders"
and the like. 19 percent watching a game is bloody good in a nation which
is supposed not to like the sport. This was a survey taken at the start
of the WC so the numbers may well have also risen.
I'd make the bold statement that more people knew the WC was in France
than who is the Prime Minister of France.
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> The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
> about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
> showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
> soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
> television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
I am also pleasantly surprised by these numbers. OTOH, I have a question
regarding their reliability. Since I'm not remotely knowledgeable about
statistics, I'm interested in responses from folks who are.
What is the minimum sampling required for "reliable" results? Can one
safely extrapolate from 1,000 people to 300 million? What is the accepted
error margin for these numbers?
-- kov
Mike Williams
> is supposed not to like the sport.
Since when did america go off their sport? It aint football, but they
seem happy!
Mike Williams
David MacDonald
The Americans are pretty good at destroying everything they get involved with.
Bais aside, Surveys also show the soccer is now the most played sport of people
under the age of 20, not basketball, baseball, or football.
All it will take is a couple more nike or adidas endorsements and then......
Steve Jones wrote:
> D...@mail.utexas.edu (Hortical) writes:
>
> > The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
> > about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
> > showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
> > soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
> > television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
>
m casey
games. many people i knew were also trying to watch as much of the cup as
possible. even those who weren't that interested seemed to know what was
going on by virtue of the media coverage. but i'd venture to say most
americans i know that love soccer are rather lukewarm about american
football, basketball etc.
while most americans may have been clueless, not all were.
mike
Dustin Christmann
David MacDonald <quan...@interlog.com> wrote:
>Do we really want the bloody Yanks involved with the beautiful game??
>
>The Americans are pretty good at destroying everything they get involved with.
Your button appears to be stuck.
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Tony Porczyk <tpor...@best.com> wrote:
>D...@mail.utexas.edu (Hortical) writes:
>
>> The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact
>> clueless about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted
>> between June 17-22 showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew
>> that the world cup was a soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said
>> they had watched a game on television and only 25 percent knew that
>> it was being played in France.
>
>discussed here already? Can't you read the dates? June 17-22.
>Now get a f*&^%$ clue and search the group a while back. There
>must be a couple of hundred posts on this subject.
No kidding. When I saw the subject, my first thought was "This? Again?"
But of course, we're likely going to be reading about this in December and
dipstick newbinho will likely think that it's fresh, new information about
how those ignorant Yanks are fucking ignorant that's why their team came in
32nd in France HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, etc.
James
>D...@mail.utexas.edu (Hortical) writes:
>
>>The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
>>about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
>>showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
>>soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
>>television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
>
>Remeber the US has 300 million people.
>
>300 million x 19% = 57 million.
>
>Also, you must remember that similar polls indicate that about the same
>percentage of Americans can't even find the US on a world map!
I remember that an improbably high number of Americans didn't know what
language the British people spoke. An even higher number didn't know
what language the Scottish spoke. A lower (but significant) number of
Americans didn't know what language they spoke.
I swear that these universities make up all these surveys for polite
conversation at dinner parties.
>
>In other words, RELAX!
>
Does Frankie say it?
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James
m.fr>, wrote,
>Personally I still say that this is pretty good. I've seen worse surveys
>from the States on things like "Currency's of the world" "Political Leaders"
>and the like. 19 percent watching a game is bloody good in a nation which
>is supposed not to like the sport.
Excellent point. I have some questions for you.
Who was the Super Bowl between?
What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
Series?
Granted, US Sports aren't as big as football but I'm hazy about the
above.
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JX Bardant
>
> Who was the Super Bowl between?
> What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
> Series?
Who cares? The SuperBowl is an americano-american thing. Not more important
than the french championship of pétanque.
che...@grove.ufl.edu
stupid ass poll!!!! Besides the fact that I don't put any worth into most
polls, I find it funny that the ones posting this "Americans are
Clueless.." message seem to eat this bullshit up. Why do they continue to
try and bash us about soccer? I think they should publish the numbers of
people that are playing soccer in leagues and clubs around the US and
maybe that will show these clueless foreigners that we too love the
beautiful game!!! The fact is that we are going to become a soccer power
whether they like it or not! (As soon as we get this coaching thing
solved!!!) Anyway, I appreciated your message.
Go US WOMEN!!!!!!
Cherie
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CARPE DIEM! MAKE Yesterday is a memory,
YOUR LIFE EXTRAORDINARY! Tomorrow is a vision,
*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*% Enjoy today!!!!!!
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On 28 Jul 1998, Michael F. Hynes wrote:
> I too think 19 % (for the early stages, too) is pretty darn
> good. What would the percentage be for a not-particularly
> passionate-about-football European nation which didn't
> qualify this time ? Eg. Finland or Switzerland just to choose
> two random examples.
>
> Then add the complication that the matches here in North America
> were on at awkward times: Depending on time zone,
> they could have started as early as 7:30 in the morning, and
> regardless of time zone, most of them were at times when
> we were supposed to be at work.
>
> Here in Canada, every match was shown, but only on TSN which
> is only available on cable TV. Those of us who have "peasant
> vision" had to go to pubs during lunch , or get friends to tape
> games, or invite ourselves over.
>
> Of the 1000 adults surveyed, I presume a fair proportion were female
> and interest in most sports is a bit lower among women. My wife
> didn't watch any games, for example.
>
> In view of all of the above, I think 19 % during the early stages
> of the cup is nothing to be ashamed of.
>
>
>
>
>
kir...@hotmail.com
quan...@interlog.com wrote:
> Do we really want the bloody Yanks involved with the beautiful game??
>
> The Americans are pretty good at destroying everything they get involved with.
Really? I guess that explains hooligans, play acting, and Sepp Blatter then?
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> I too think 19 % (for the early stages, too) is pretty darn
> good. What would the percentage be for a not-particularly
> passionate-about-football European nation which didn't
> qualify this time ? Eg. Finland or Switzerland just to choose
> two random examples.
>
Well, I think people in Finland & Switzerland were probably well aware
of the World Cup...anyways, its not like they have *that* many sports to
distract them from the World Cup or anything...don't we have like CART
racing, baseball, MLS, wrestling, NASCAR, Arena Football etc. to
distract people ? So yeah...19% isn't a bad number at all...
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> Someone claiming to be Steve Jones <steve...@control.not.spam.eurospa
> m.fr>, wrote,
>
> >Personally I still say that this is pretty good. I've seen worse
surveys
> >from the States on things like "Currency's of the world" "Political
Leaders"
> >and the like. 19 percent watching a game is bloody good in a nation
which
> >is supposed not to like the sport.
>
> Excellent point. I have some questions for you.
>
> Who was the Super Bowl between?
> What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
> Series?
1992 and 1993
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Their world revolves around their family, High School, College(rednecks
exempted!!) and maybe a Major Sports team. To most events there is a stoic
indifference. They only get concerned when it affects them directly or their
godaamned media pours out news briefs by the dozen in the very important Prime
time. .
ram
Steve Jones wrote:
> D...@mail.utexas.edu (Hortical) writes:
>
> > The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
> > about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
> > showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
> > soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
> > television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
>
> Personally I still say that this is pretty good. I've seen worse surveys
> from the States on things like "Currency's of the world" "Political Leaders"
> and the like. 19 percent watching a game is bloody good in a nation which
P.M.Sriram
US cities participate in a wretched 162 game programme and then play 30 more
games to decide the winner ? Do me a favor file a petition to get the name
changed to Taco Bell Series or something as meaningful. About the Super Bowl
the only thing Super are the Dallas Cowgirls . Rest are a bunch of imbeciles
running and beating everybody off and on the field in their ridiculous tights.
CHOOSE LIFE CHOOSE A CAREER or better CHOOSE FOOTBALL(SOCCER)!!!!
JX Bardant wrote:
> > Excellent point. I have some questions for you.
> >
> > Who was the Super Bowl between?
> > What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
> > Series?
>
Jason Cormier
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<01bdba60$b168bce0$f862...@bardant.club-internet.fr>...
>> Excellent point. I have some questions for you.
>>
>> Who was the Super Bowl between?
>> What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
>> Series?
>Who cares? The SuperBowl is an americano-american thing. Not more important
>than the french championship of pétanque.
Defensive much?
Barry Hamill
> >
> Does Frankie say it?
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FUCK
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>
> What World Series are you talking about ? The game where teams from different
> US cities participate in a wretched 162 game programme and then play 30 more
> games to decide the winner ? Do me a favor file a petition to get the name
> changed to Taco Bell Series or something as meaningful. About the Super Bowl
> the only thing Super are the Dallas Cowgirls . Rest are a bunch of imbeciles
> running and beating everybody off and on the field in their ridiculous tights.
> CHOOSE LIFE CHOOSE A CAREER or better CHOOSE FOOTBALL(SOCCER)!!!!
>
> JX Bardant wrote:
>
> > >
> > > Who was the Super Bowl between?
> > > What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
> > > Series?
> >
> > Who cares? The SuperBowl is an americano-american thing. Not more important
> > than the french championship of pétanque.
OC Garza - American and soccer lover
O.C. Garza
>
> The truth is Americans do not really care about the World let alone the WC.
> Their world revolves around their family, High School, College(rednecks
> exempted!!) and maybe a Major Sports team. To most events there is a stoic
> indifference. They only get concerned when it affects them directly or their
> godaamned media pours out news briefs by the dozen in the very important Prime
> time. .
> ram
OC Garza
Dan
France who only became interested once they were winning the final 3-0.
Something like 19% of france watched the quarter final game featuring their
home team playing italy.
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>Now, that's funny! I used to have a t-shirt that said:
>
>I don't give a
> FUCK
>what Frankie say!
>
>I have no idea where it is now- I couldn't wear it anyway, I've got kids
>and have to act somewhat respectible.
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P.M.Sriram wrote in message <35BEB08D...@scsn.net>...
>What World Series are you talking about ? The game where teams from
different
>US cities participate in a wretched 162 game programme and then play 30
more
>games to decide the winner ? Do me a favor file a petition to get the name
>changed to Taco Bell Series or something as meaningful. About the Super
Bowl
>the only thing Super are the Dallas Cowgirls . Rest are a bunch of
imbeciles
>running and beating everybody off and on the field in their ridiculous
tights.
>CHOOSE LIFE CHOOSE A CAREER or better CHOOSE FOOTBALL(SOCCER)!!!!
All those imbeciles and beatings and yet, still no hooligan problems. To
each there own.
What is really funny is the amount of bile coming from posters such as
yourself. Careful or that stress-induced ulcer is going to act up.
BTW - Do you even know the origin of the "World Series"?
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>The truth is Americans do not really care about the World let alone the WC.
>Their world revolves around their family, High School, College(rednecks
>exempted!!) and maybe a Major Sports team. To most events there is a stoic
>indifference. They only get concerned when it affects them directly or their
>godaamned media pours out news briefs by the dozen in the very important Prime
>time. .
>ram
Personally, I think that with a little more effort, you could have shoehorned
a few more ignorant stereotypes in there.
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>Someone claiming to be Oliver Tse <oli...@best.com>, wrote,
>>Remeber the US has 300 million people.
>>
>>300 million x 19% = 57 million.
>>
>>Also, you must remember that similar polls indicate that about the same
>>percentage of Americans can't even find the US on a world map!
>I remember that an improbably high number of Americans didn't know what
>language the British people spoke. An even higher number didn't know
>what language the Scottish spoke. A lower (but significant) number of
>Americans didn't know what language they spoke.
That's really funny, sadly it's probably true as well! :) The only
famous Scotsman in the US is Groundskeeper Willie from The Simpsons
anyway! ("There's nary an animal alive that can outrun a greased
Scotsman!") Also I was listening on the radio before Scotland played
Morocco to a few Moroccan supporters who seemed to think Scotland was
inbetween Denmark and Norway.
Like other people have said 19% is a damn good figure for watching a WC
match especially seeing football is a minor sport spectator wise over
there. In general the United States is a pretty big country with lots of
stuff, sport and non-sport, going on, so they're bound to be less
knowledgeable about world wide events because they gets less attention.
Asking an American about events in the UK is like asking a UK citizen
about things in Iceland. (Look at the news shows over there, it's about
90% homegrown news while in the UK it's around 50%).
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Alex Kamilewicz wrote in message
<1dcxakj.974...@max51.public.ox.ac.uk>...>I believe it was the Denver Broncos and the Dallas Cowboys, with the
>Broncos winning in, for once, an interesting game.
Green Bay and Denver. Dallas didn't make the playoffs last year.
>> What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
>> Series?
>
>I think it was three years ago and I'm pretty sure it was the Toronto
>Blue Jays.
Five years ago, in 1993. They also won in 1992. These are the only two times
a team from outside the US has won the World Series.
>> Granted, US Sports aren't as big as football but I'm hazy about the
>> above.
>
>Yes, but the above are only played in any serious manner in the States
>and Canada. Football is played world-wide.
Baseball *isn't* played in any serious matter in...
Japan (most popular sport by a mile),
Cuba (ditto),
South Korea (neck-and-neck with football) and
Taiwan (most popular sport and second-best pro league in Asia)?
Just asking.
>Besides football is way more important.... :)
I agree; it's the bozos who want to dismiss (N) American sports outright
that need to learn how to live and let live.
Jason Cormier
Alex Kamilewicz wrote in message
>Ken Overton <k...@mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> D...@mail.utexas.edu (Hortical) wrote:
>> > The result of a Harris poll showed that Americans were in fact clueless
>> > about the world cup. A poll of 1000 adults conducted between June 17-22
>> > showed that only 52 percent of Americans knew that the world cup was a
>> > soccer tournament. Only 19 percent said they had watched a game on
>> > television and only 25 percent knew that it was being played in France.
>>
>> regarding their reliability. Since I'm not remotely knowledgeable about
>> statistics, I'm interested in responses from folks who are.
>>
>> What is the minimum sampling required for "reliable" results? Can one
>> safely extrapolate from 1,000 people to 300 million? What is the
accepted
>> error margin for these numbers?
>
>
>If the sampling is done right (and 1000 is enough - even though it
>doesn't sound like enough) the error margin is something like +/- 2
>percent.
+/- 4%, 19 times out of 20.
James
>> Excellent point. I have some questions for you.
>>
>> Who was the Super Bowl between?
>> What year was the last time a time from outside the USA won the World
>> Series?
>
>Who cares? The SuperBowl is an americano-american thing. Not more important
>than the french championship of pétanque.
>
Whether we like it or not, America dominates the world to a previously
unseen extent. There are McDonalds on every street corner (not
literally, that would be stupid), American TV programmes fill our TV
schedules and when the Wall Street brokers have a bad day, English
economists appear on the TV to talk about England entering a recession.
Despite what your government might do to try and protect French culture
(and in spite of your country's inflated idea of its own world
importance) you'd have to admit that the Super Bowl and the World Series
are more 'important' than any French national tournament. If we don't
know about them or the sports that they like, why should we expect them
to know about us and our sports?
However, with all that said, the Super Bowl still isn't as big as the
English FA Cup final.
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> Alex Kamilewicz wrote in message
> >Yes, but the above are only played in any serious manner in the States
> >and Canada. Football is played world-wide.
>
> Baseball *isn't* played in any serious matter in...
>
> Japan (most popular sport by a mile),
>
> Cuba (ditto),
>
> South Korea (neck-and-neck with football) and
>
> Taiwan (most popular sport and second-best pro league in Asia)?
>
> Just asking.
Yeah, OK, I blew it big-time there. Still doesn't detract much from my
point, though.
> >Besides football is way more important.... :)
>
> I agree; it's the bozos who want to dismiss (N) American sports outright
> that need to learn how to live and let live.
Yep, and alt.sports.baseball/football/basketball/hockey are over that
way ------->
Jason Cormier
Alex Kamilewicz wrote in message
>Jason Cormier <ja...@RemoveThis.ztv.ne.jp> wrote:
>
>> Alex Kamilewicz wrote in message
>> >Yes, but the above are only played in any serious manner in the States
>> >and Canada. Football is played world-wide.
>> Baseball *isn't* played in any serious matter in...
>>
>> Japan (most popular sport by a mile),
>>
>> Cuba (ditto),
>>
>> South Korea (neck-and-neck with football) and
>>
>> Taiwan (most popular sport and second-best pro league in Asia)?
>>
>> Just asking.
>
>Yeah, OK, I blew it big-time there. Still doesn't detract much from my
>point, though.
I believe the thread started as a result of some ignorant poster claiming
that America's popular sports aren't played seriously anywhere else.
Then there was the common claim that none of "their" sports are world
sports. Unless one wants to claim that football is the only world sport
(which may have some merit), they're going to have to acknowledge that some
of the popular sports in the US are played on a significant scale around the
world.
>> >Besides football is way more important.... :)
>>
>> I agree; it's the bozos who want to dismiss (N) American sports outright
>> that need to learn how to live and let live.
>
>Yep, and alt.sports.baseball/football/basketball/hockey are over that
>way ------->
I agree and the person who brought it up in the first place should go over
there. You see, it's the paranoid anti-Americans who keep bringing up
"their" (US') sports in order to belittle them. If they insist on doing so
then I'm going to respond.
On the other hand, what I'd really prefer is for them to leave well enough
alone; since they seem to accomplish nothing beyond demonstrating their
ignorance and coming off as bitter.
