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Snowdon Computers

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Sep 30, 2003, 7:58:47 AM9/30/03
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Allegedly..............................the player who the 'victim' agreed to
have consenting intercourse with is Carlton Cole formerly of Chelsea. The
other 7 players involved were all Newcastle players and included Kieron Dyer
and Titus Bramble amongst others.

Apparently if the story sticks they are fu(ked! - Staff at the hotel they
were in cancelled all room 'key cards' on the night/morning of the incident
as they heard something bad was going off. Thus all those out of their rooms
at the time and still in the hotel had to get cards re-isssued that same
night/morning to go back to their rooms and so followed a trail of Newcastle
players.

To boot there is CCTV footage from around the hotel that is being examined
today.

A few twitchy butt holes about I reckon!!!!!

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Niel Humphreys
Snowdon Computers Ltd


Marc Knowles

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Sep 30, 2003, 9:25:15 AM9/30/03
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I've heard rumours circulating also that Bobby Robson is resigning. Don't
quote me on it though could be bulls**t

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Boogaloo

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Sep 30, 2003, 9:37:57 AM9/30/03
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"Marc Knowles" <thek...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've heard rumours circulating also that Bobby Robson is resigning. Don't
> quote me on it though could be bulls**t

No he's after Kluivert now. Probably after John Fashanu, OJ Simpson and
Harold Shipman as well.


Marc Knowles

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Sep 30, 2003, 11:53:10 AM9/30/03
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or not as the case may be....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/3152834.st
m

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Travis Pupkin

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Sep 30, 2003, 2:30:56 PM9/30/03
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In article <blc0u9$ajpc8$1...@ID-177670.news.uni-berlin.de>,
eatmy...@yahoo.co.uk says...

>
> "Marc Knowles" <thek...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3f7983f3$1...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > I've heard rumours circulating also that Bobby Robson is resigning. Don't
> > quote me on it though could be bulls**t
>
> No he's after Kluivert now.

Not exactly the best player to go after once accusations of "rape" start
getting bandied about, is he?

Jesper Nøhr Andersen

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Sep 30, 2003, 2:49:09 PM9/30/03
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"Travis Pupkin" <tpu...@dorrk.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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Well I guess he'll have no problem adapting to the likes of Bowyer, Woodgate
and Bellamy...and now Dyer....hehe


Mr. R

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Sep 30, 2003, 7:51:19 PM9/30/03
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Never underestimate the ability of highly-paid lawyers getting this thing
squashed. I was in Bermuda years ago during a United visit. Clayton
Blackmore followed a woman into the ladies toilet and raped her right there
on the floor. It was looking pretty grim for Clayton for a day or so until
some heavy-hitters were flown in. The old cheque-book was produced and
voilla, charges were dropped by the woman.


half_pint

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Oct 1, 2003, 3:55:58 PM10/1/03
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Thats a rather bold statement to post in a public forum.
Anyhow as this woman has already gone to the police
she would be in pretty serious trouble if she withdrew
her statements now. Although not in as much trouble
as she would be if her allegations are proven to be
groundless. Eitherway at least one person is going to
end up with a fairly lenghty jail sentence.

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Mr. R

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Oct 1, 2003, 7:22:00 PM10/1/03
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"half_pint" <esboella....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The woman in the CB matter also went to the police and an allegation of rape
was made. CB was formally interviewed by the police. During the course of
this, she withdrew her complaint, and there was no case to pursue. The very
same thing could happen here. I suspect you are not that familiar with
criminal cases. This woman could withdraw her complaint at any time. It
would not mean that the whole thing was groundless to begin with. Women
withdraw rape claims all the time due to the emotional stress of pursuing
the charges.


half_pint

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Oct 3, 2003, 12:59:30 PM10/3/03
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I beleive it for the police to decide whether she would be prosecuted,
on whatever grounds, including wasting police time.
Then there is the issue of slander.
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Mr. R

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Oct 3, 2003, 5:55:00 PM10/3/03
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>
> I beleive it for the police to decide whether she would be prosecuted,
> on whatever grounds, including wasting police time.
> Then there is the issue of slander.
> --
> regards half_pint

Absolutely no doubt about that, if there was evidence that she concocted the
whole thing. However, the reality of women making rape allegations is
highly sensitive. It's a well known fact that the majority of women who are
raped do not report it to the police, and those that do, go through the
torture and degradation of examinations, as well as reliving the whole
experience in a court, often to be accused of being a trollop by defense
lawyers. When it's all over, and even if the case is proved in court, the
victim gets nothing out of it all. Most rape accusers have to be counseled
and encouraged all the way through in order to win the conviction. So you
see, it takes next to nothing for them to say, "I'm not going through with
this". Do you get it now?


half_pint

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Oct 3, 2003, 8:24:37 PM10/3/03
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"Mr. R" <M...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "half_pint" <esboella....@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:blk9sp$disbn$1...@ID-204080.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > I beleive it for the police to decide whether she would be prosecuted,
> > on whatever grounds, including wasting police time.
> > Then there is the issue of slander.
> > --
> > regards half_pint
>
> Absolutely no doubt about that, if there was evidence that she concocted
the
> whole thing. However, the reality of women making rape allegations is
> highly sensitive. It's a well known fact that the majority of women who
are
> raped do not report it to the police,

Well there may be some debate over whether they have been raped or not.

> and those that do, go through the
> torture and degradation of examinations, as well as reliving the whole
> experience in a court, often to be accused of being a trollop by defense
> lawyers.

Which may well be a fair comment if the woman is indeed a trollop, although
that in its self does not mean she has not been raped.
If she is a 'trollop' than it will be common knowledge anyway, if she isn't
then she will have a 'court certificate' to prove it.

> When it's all over, and even if the case is proved in court, the
> victim gets nothing out of it all.

Well she gets justice out of it, its not meant to be money earning
oppertunity
is it?
I believe there is a criminal injuries compensation 'thing' I would be
surprised
if rape was not covered by this, if there is not then there should be.
Also I do not see why the woman could not sue the man for tha damages
caused.

> Most rape accusers have to be counseled
> and encouraged all the way through in order to win the conviction. So you
> see, it takes next to nothing for them to say, "I'm not going through with
> this". Do you get it now?

Not really, to my mind there is a vast difference between being pounced
upon and dragged into the bushes and raped by a stranger with a knife
at her throat, than to a having sex when 'she is not in the mood' with
someone
whom she has been having sex with for years.
Or a prostitute who has been 'short changed' crying rape (theft would be
the appropiate charge).
Then you have to consider whether someone who truely has been raped
would let the victim walk free, to potentially rape again, just to save
herself
the orderal of going to court.
Take the John Lesley - Ulrika Johnson thing, his career has been destroyed
and he has not been found guilty of anything. The 'emotional trauma'
didnt appear to reduce her to a quivering jelly unable to function did it?
Its kind of hard to imagine him thinking "Mmmmm I will now destroy
my career for a quick shag", when he would have little trouble getting that
for 'nowt' due to his celebrity status, or if he was desperate, spending
5 minutes of his wages on a prostitute.
I could just throw in that female police officers are more likely to be
lesbians men haters than the average woman, as may be many
'rape councillors'.
You know the old feminist adage "all men are rapists" so you can
imagine the interview.
'Victim': "I think I may have been raped"
Councellor: "Was a man involved"
V "Yes"
C "Well it definately rape then, lets nail the bastard"
>
>

Obvoiusly some 'rapes' are rapes and some are not, but there will always
be a grey area.

If the woman involved was indeed a prostitute then I think theft or
assault would be a more appropiate charge.

Its quite hard to see how a woman who sells her body for a few quid
can cry rape.
Bit like a joyrider with 267 convictions complaining that someone has
nicked his car stereo.

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