The greatest team ever ...
Le Dieu
playing ... Cantona, Giggs, Sharpey, Hughes, Kanchelskis ... I was
mesmerised. I'd forgotten quite how breath-taking we were. We got so
accustomed to that standard of football at OT that we almost took it for
granted.
Arsenal are a great team to watch. The best club side in England at the
moment. But I'm not being biased when I say that Ferguson has had at least
three Manchester United sides that have been far more exciting. Quick,
skilfull, at least one genius in every move.
If Arsenal win the Treble then I think we can safely say they are the best
club side for the last five years. If not, then they're just another very
good team.
A. Dieu.
Rodders
"Le Dieu" <Led...@OT.net> wrote in message
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> ... I was in the gym yesterday and on tele they had an old United game
> playing ... Cantona, Giggs, Sharpey, Hughes, Kanchelskis ... I was
Maybe you should stop gazing at the ladies shapely bottoms, bouncing up and
down in their tight leotard/thong ensemble.
Roddy.
M32
> accustomed to that standard of football at OT that we almost took it for
> granted.
And still do. That is why there are thousands of moaning tw*ts in the
stands. And you can also link it into poor singing, (expecting the team to
win and therefore not needing to sing to lift the team).
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"Le Dieu" <Led...@OT.net> wrote in message
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pj
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>
> Maybe you should stop gazing at the ladies shapely
bottoms, bouncing up and
> down in their tight leotard/thong ensemble.
Did you used to write scripts for the Fast Show?
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behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy.
Peter North
"Le Dieu" <Led...@OT.net> wrote in message
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You are being biased, and arrogant.
No United side has been as "exciting, quick or skillful".
They've had an ability to win a football match and the standard of
premiership opposition was lower then.
Look back over the records, United have always amassed the bulk of their
points against "the rest".
Their performance against their rivals has always been patchy.
Le Dieu
"M32" <M...@M32.com> wrote in message news:U_yac.1452$4N3.758@newsfe1-win...
> I'd forgotten quite how breath-taking we were. We got so
> > accustomed to that standard of football at OT that we almost took it for
> > granted.
>
> And still do. That is why there are thousands of moaning tw*ts in the
> stands. And you can also link it into poor singing, (expecting the team to
> win and therefore not needing to sing to lift the team).
I think you have a point here.
There are a lot more people at OT since the 90s who haven't come to support
United they've come to be entertained, like they expect from the cinema or
the theatre, or in Arsenal's case, the library.
A. Dieu.
Simon Verona
certainly played entertaining football. Though, Arsenal were never that
far behind - perhaps in front in some seasons.... (In my opinion).
Since the Premiership was formed, there have really only ever been two
constantly consistent teams - Arsenal and Manchester United.... Whilst
nearly every season, there is a dark-horse challenge (Blackburn and
Newcastle come to mind!) there hasn't been anybody anywhere near the
consistency that these two teams have shown.
I wonder whether Chelsea will turn out to be a long-term "contender" in the
Premiership. I certainly hope so... though it will take 3 or 4 seasons to
prove it...
I'm a little disappointed that some people think that Man U have had a "bad"
season. Judging from the weekends game the difference in *ability* between
Arsenal and Man U is still slim, perhaps Man U have lacked consistency
throughout the season. Certainly, by their normal standard they are not
where they want to be which is challenging for the title... But only two
things are standing in their way - a superb run from Arsenal and a certain
Russian with long arms and deep pockets stuffed with cash!
As for the greatest team ever, it is impossible to compare teams from
different era's... Is it fair for example to compare the Arsenal team of
the 30's with today's team? or even todays Man U and Arsenal teams with
the Liverpool side of the late 70's?? I would certainly claim that many
Premiership teams of today could beat the Liverpool team of the 70's - the
standard of the game has increased so much in that time.
Just some more random thoughts!
Regards
Simon
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chris jones
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LOL, try and make your wind up so that it has an elemnet of truth to it
otherwise people just see you as a thick twat.
chris
M.B
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>
> news:zFyac.54$Tb...@newsfe5-gui.server.ntli.net...
> > ... I was in the gym yesterday and on tele they had an old United game
> > playing ... Cantona, Giggs, Sharpey, Hughes, Kanchelskis ... I was
> > mesmerised. I'd forgotten quite how breath-taking we were. We got so
> > accustomed to that standard of football at OT that we almost took it for
> > granted.
> >
> > Arsenal are a great team to watch. The best club side in England at the
> > moment. But I'm not being biased when I say that Ferguson has had at
least
> > three Manchester United sides that have been far more exciting. Quick,
> > skilfull, at least one genius in every move.
> >
> > If Arsenal win the Treble then I think we can safely say they are the
best
> > club side for the last five years. If not, then they're just another
very
> > good team.
>
> You are being biased, and arrogant.
> No United side has been as "exciting, quick or skillful".
And you are not being biased? bollocks
> They've had an ability to win a football match and the standard of
> premiership opposition was lower then.
who says? there were certainly more challengers
> Look back over the records, United have always amassed the bulk of their
> points against "the rest".
> Their performance against their rivals has always been patchy.
I think virtually every teams performance against their main rivals is
patchy, but if you check the records at
http://www.soccerbase.com/footballlive/?MIval=head
you'll find our number of wins against virtually any team (especially the
big ones) is greater than theirs against us.
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The Religion
Dr Evil
European cups (like they'll ever let anyone forget). However, on their way,
they beat some pretty shit teams, probably only beating true class on 2 or 3
occasions.
I think it's quite widely accepted that the Liverpool team of the mid to
late 80s (under Dalglish) was probably their best ever team, although
because of their dickhead fans, they were never able to prove it in Europe,
when the European cup started to strengthen again with the dominance of
Milan etc.
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Shaun McCann
> Look back over the records, United have always amassed the bulk of their
> points against "the rest".
> Their performance against their rivals has always been patchy.
You mean like last season then? Unbeaten against all of the top 5 with only
Arsenal and Chelsea able to scrape draws on their own grounds.
Still - you've always talked bollocks in the past so why change the habit of a
lifetime?
--
Utd and proud of it.
doublegooner
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Thats that then.
RED DEVIL
Ian
"Le Dieu" <Led...@OT.net> wrote in message
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And you thought, oh let's go home and troll by claiming that Sharp,
Kancheslkis and Cantona were world class players.
Well you did it.
Red Forever
don't like it then don't try to dish it out you tit
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Red Forever
United results from that era. Just to back your spiteful, jealousy driven
comment up. You knob.
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>
Toecutter
> >
> > Maybe you should stop gazing at the ladies shapely
> bottoms, bouncing up and
> > down in their tight leotard/thong ensemble.
>
> Did you used to write scripts for the Fast Show?
> --
Are you the fool from big brother?
The Ancient Geek
troooll da arsnal nooz groop.
Tyler Redboye
from the team who were previously called the best ever!!! Alan Hansen and
Mark Lawrenson are two such whom we could call 'unbiased' (both playing for
the great Liverpool teams)- they both stated and Lawrenson even adding it
hurts to say so, but Arsenal (2004) are the best-ever English team. But I
agree that we need to win the CL to hammer home the point and then retain it
to show we're the best in Europe. Amazing that even without winning this
trophy so many still think we're the best ever - let the eyes see, let the
ears hear!
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chris jones
And i would dispute that Hansen and Lawro are unbiased. They are shite. All
they ever talk about is bloody Shankley and the team Liverpool had in the
70s.
The BBC pundits are fucking useless.
Anyway, for sure you play some nice football but you are quite a long way
from being the greatest ever English team.
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M.B
"Tyler Redboye" <tylerh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> from the team who were previously called the best ever!!! Alan Hansen and
> Mark Lawrenson are two such whom we could call 'unbiased' (both playing
for
> the great Liverpool teams)- they both stated and Lawrenson even adding it
> hurts to say so, but Arsenal (2004) are the best-ever English team. But I
> agree that we need to win the CL to hammer home the point and then retain
it
> to show we're the best in Europe. Amazing that even without winning this
> trophy so many still think we're the best ever - let the eyes see, let the
> ears hear!
>
>
Greatness has to be earned Rentboye and Arsenal are far from it!
Kath
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> Pundits say stuff like that all the time.
>
> And i would dispute that Hansen and Lawro are unbiased. They are
shite. All
> they ever talk about is bloody Shankley and the team Liverpool had in
the
> 70s.
>
> The BBC pundits are fucking useless.
>
Aren't all pundits there to offer an opinion to those who can't be
bothered to form one?
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Kath
Life's short - eat desert first.
chris jones
"Kath" <ka...@kynny77.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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LOL, i think i'll have to remember that :-)
chris
The Ancient Geek
>
>
> Greatness has to be earned, Rentboye and Arsenal are far from it!
>
>
Interesting how a comma can affect the meaning so much :)
loop
> As for the greatest team ever, it is impossible to compare teams from
> different era's... Is it fair for example to compare the Arsenal team of
> the 30's with today's team? or even todays Man U and Arsenal teams with
> the Liverpool side of the late 70's?? I would certainly claim that many
> Premiership teams of today could beat the Liverpool team of the 70's - the
> standard of the game has increased so much in that time.
<shameless_plug>
Yes. It might be impossible to compare teams across eras, but
it's certainly fun to try. Check the link below for a quick pole.
http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~david/soccer
</shameless_plug>
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