Match-fixing inquiry probes 200 European football games
JD
Gary
> The naughty lads!
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8370748.stm
Hmmph. First Henry's hand ball and now this. Not a good
week for soccer.
- Gary
JD
After fifa said there was no way for a replay,henry comes out and says
he feels bad and wants a redo.
What a crock.
V wouldn't do that!
Big Bobby Clobber
> After fifa said there was no way for a replay,henry comes out and says
> he feels bad and wants a redo.
In the extremely unlikely event that they did that, Henry would not
play because an intentional hand ball is an automatic red card + you
miss the next game...
Joe
Grand Mal
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It's pretty blatant, too. At first he said it was unintentional but he
clearly reaches for the ball...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0wDE7JU0E&feature=related
"Extremely unlikely" is right, too. If the ref misses it, it didn't happen.
Just ask Maradona.
Big Bobby Clobber
>
> It's pretty blatant, too. At first he said it was unintentional but he
> clearly reaches for the ball...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0wDE7JU0E&feature=related
>
> "Extremely unlikely" is right, too. If the ref misses it, it didn't happen.
> Just ask Maradona.
foamy
It was a double offside and a double hander, what the hell were the ref
and linesmen doing ? What was the nationalities of the officials ?
JIm
Grand Mal
"foamy" <bomb...@sulet.net> wrote in message
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Freemason, I think.
Big Bobby Clobber
>
> It was a double offside and a double hander, what the hell were the ref
> and linesmen doing ? What was the nationalities of the officials ?
>
Regarding the offside: The rules were changed a few years ago so that
simply being in an offside position when the ball was played, is not
automatically whistled (ref's discretion). This was to allow play to
continue if the offside person was not directly involved. In the case,
Henry himself was onside, as you can see him scoot towards the goal
well after the ball was kicked. So you can't fault the ref for that
part of it...
Joe
foamy
<b6e79de6-2c3a-4467...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>Regarding the offside: The rules were changed a few years ago so that
>simply being in an offside position when the ball was played, is not
>automatically whistled (ref's discretion). This was to allow play to
>continue if the offside person was not directly involved. In the case,
>Henry himself was onside, as you can see him scoot towards the goal
>well after the ball was kicked. So you can't fault the ref for that
>part of it...
Thanks a lot for the info Joe. I haven't followed soccer for quite awhile and
wasn't aware of that. Good on soccer for implimenting it. I'm passionate
in my dislike of offsides period in any sport, with the exception of set play
sports like football or rugger eg.
The CFL has slud into offsides being ignored with the advent of the receivers
starting 7 or 8 yds behind the line of scrimmage and timing their runs to the
snap of the ball.
Does anyone know where the idea of offsides came from or why ?
Jim
bob
>>It's pretty blatant, too. At first he said it was unintentional but he
>>clearly reaches for the ball...
>>
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix0wDE7JU0E&feature=related
>>
>>"Extremely unlikely" is right, too. If the ref misses it, it didn't happen.
>>Just ask Maradona.
>
>It was a double offside and a double hander, what the hell were the ref
>and linesmen doing ? What was the nationalities of the officials ?
there's another video that shows it's not offside when the free kick
is taken from about 30-40 yards out (passing it back like that makes
it ok; you can't be offside behind the ball), but it's the worst
handball miss i've ever seen...
foamy
bob <bo...@canada.com> wrote:
There used to be a rule that you can't be offside on a direct shot on goal
[ not free kicks ] does that still exist ?
Jim
bob
>In article
><b6e79de6-2c3a-4467...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>Does anyone know where the idea of offsides came from or why ?
there's a few entries in wikipedia about it. maybe came from rugby?
bob
if the ref decided you're not interfering in the play, you're not
offside.
once a guy in a game 15 yards offside, threw his arms in the air and
yelled, "i'm not in the play" as the ball went through his legs.
another of their players ran onto the ball and scored to tie the game
and then they won in the last minute... worst call ever!
Anders Elkjær Johansen
> In article
> <b6e79de6-2c3a-4467-92bd-00b6c0181...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Swedish refs.... French president of UEFA and a Swiss president of
FIFA.
I think the whole offsides thing came from rugby. And originally it
was a lot stricter than it is today, something like 3 or 4 opponents
had to be closer to the goal line - today it's only 2 (including the
goalie).
Anders E
foamy
>On Nov 21, 1:39=A0am, bombe...@sulet.net (foamy) wrote:
>> In article
>> <b6e79de6-2c3a-4467-92bd-00b6c0181...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
>> Big Bobby Clobber <ld50...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Regarding the offside: The rules were changed a few years ago so that
>> >simply being in an offside position when the ball was played, is not
>> >automatically whistled (ref's discretion). This was to allow play to
>> >continue if the offside person was not directly involved. In the case,
>> >Henry himself was onside, as you can see him scoot towards the goal
>> >well after the ball was kicked. So you can't fault the ref for that
>> >part of it...
>>
> and
>> wasn't aware of that. Good on soccer for implimenting it. I'm passionate
>play
>> sports like football or rugger eg.
>>
>vers
>> starting 7 or 8 yds behind the line of scrimmage and timing their runs to=
> the
>> snap of the ball.
>>
>> Does anyone know where the idea of offsides came from or why ?
>>
>> Jim
>
>Swedish refs.... French president of UEFA and a Swiss president of
>FIFA.
>
>I think the whole offsides thing came from rugby. And originally it
>was a lot stricter than it is today, something like 3 or 4 opponents
>had to be closer to the goal line - today it's only 2 (including the
>goalie).
>
>
>Anders E
Thanks for the info Anders
Jim
Victor Wainer
to tell, one of my pet peeves:) - is that nowadays one can be in an
offside position INSIDE the small penalty area and not be offside! (see
Liverpool's "miraculous" comeback on A.C. Milan a couple of years back to
see a good couple of examples)
If anyone can tell me how just being in so close to the goal is not
distracting to the goalie, and therefore relevant to the ongoing play, I
would appreciate it. If the refs were perfect one could argue the goalie
should "discount" the offside player, since he can not legally intervene,
but we do know just how perfect they are...
Victor
Big Bobby Clobber
>
> If anyone can tell me how just being in so close to the goal is not
> distracting to the goalie, and therefore relevant to the ongoing play, I
> would appreciate it. If the refs were perfect one could argue the goalie
> should "discount" the offside player, since he can not legally intervene,
> but we do know just how perfect they are...
>
I agree absolutely. It's obviously dead simple to say after the fact
the "X was not involved in the play", but impossible for a defender to
know before the fact that X does not pose a problem.
I thought for sure you would be commenting on the video link of
Messi's excellent imitation of - and in some ways, improvement upon -
the Original Hand of God play. Really, it took just as good timing and
skill as a real header, and so maybe should be allowed on that basis...
(just kidding...)
Joe
Victor Wainer
Heh - I didn't even see the link... I am so fixated on the hatred of the
new offside thing, you know?
Also, could we get back to the time when playing football was first a
passion and much later than second a business?
Grand Mal
"Victor Wainer" <alio...@mailmolly.com> wrote in message
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Heh - I didn't even see the link... I am so fixated on the hatred of the
new offside thing, you know?
Also, could we get back to the time when playing football was first a
passion and much later than second a business?
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Check out the Scottish Premier League. It's such a poverty-stricken
operation that there's not much else to play for but love of the game. Some
teams have less than 10,000-capacity stadiums and that's not all seats,
either. There's still terraces in the league.
There's a degree of parity creeping in, too. It's no longer Celtic, Rangers
and everyone else.
Trouble is, they play at GMT, 8 hours ahead of us.
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Big Bobby Clobber
>
> Check out the Scottish Premier League. It's such a poverty-stricken
> operation that there's not much else to play for but love of the game.
You'll come for the football, but you'll stay for the Haggis-On-A-
Stick. (I'm making that last part up, but I happened to be in Scotland
last month, where I observed and photographed the following in a
supermarket
http://tinyurl.com/yauorvy )
Joe
Grand Mal
Joe
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Ya know, I coulda blissfully lived out my life without knowing that existed.
bob
wrote:
>On Nov 23, 2:32 pm, "Grand Mal" <ironw...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Check out the Scottish Premier League. It's such a poverty-stricken
>> operation that there's not much else to play for but love of the game.
>
>You'll come for the football, but you'll stay for the Haggis-On-A-
>Stick. (I'm making that last part up, but I happened to be in Scotland
>last month, where I observed and photographed the following in a
>supermarket
>http://tinyurl.com/yauorvy )
>
>Joe
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>Ya know, I coulda blissfully lived out my life without knowing that existed.
it's just yummy sausage, you racist bastards! ;-)
meetz
Shit! That door opens the closet! Quick, point me to the exit!
foamy
meetz <aa...@aardvaark.org> wrote:
>>> Ya know, I coulda blissfully lived out my life without knowing that existed.
>>
>> it's just yummy sausage, you racist bastards! ;-)
>
>
>Shit! That door opens the closet! Quick, point me to the exit!
My guess, is do a 180 from how you entered he closet. We can deal
with coming out of the closet later.
Jim)