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IL
May 24, 2012, 6:57:46 PM5/24/12
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I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
have to say this shit:
http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
the bus here:
http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
it?
Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
extension? Jesus.
have to say this shit:
http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
the bus here:
http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
it?
Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
extension? Jesus.
Alan Baker
May 24, 2012, 7:04:34 PM5/24/12
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In article <L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL" <m...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
> have to say this shit:
> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
Really? What did he say that was so bad?
>
> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
> the bus here:
> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
he'd been told it.
Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
would be ready for game 1?
>
> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
> it?
>
> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
> extension? Jesus.
Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
wrote:
> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
> have to say this shit:
> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
>
> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
> the bus here:
> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
he'd been told it.
Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
would be ready for game 1?
>
> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
> it?
>
> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
> extension? Jesus.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
Dutch
May 24, 2012, 7:16:15 PM5/24/12
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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
>> have to say this shit:
>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
>
> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
>> have to say this shit:
>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
>
> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
something I also like about him.
>> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
>> the bus here:
>> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
>
> He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
> he'd been told it.
>
> Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
> would be ready for game 1?
>
>>
>> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
>> it?
>>
>> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
>> extension? Jesus.
>
> Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
kitchen nightmares.
Alan Baker
May 24, 2012, 7:23:33 PM5/24/12
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In article <rkzvr.1014$0x2...@newsfe13.iad>, Dutch <n...@email.com>
wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
> >> he
> >> have to say this shit:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
> >
> > Really? What did he say that was so bad?
>
> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
> something I also like about him.
Agreed. I prefer someone who speaks honestly, myself.
>
>
> >> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
> >> under
> >> the bus here:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
> >
> > He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
> > he'd been told it.
> >
> > Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
> > would be ready for game 1?
> >
> >>
> >> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
> >> it?
> >>
> >> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
> >> an
> >> extension? Jesus.
> >
> > Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
>
> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
> kitchen nightmares.
Not a football guy... ...time to get out and play more golf.
:-)
wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
> >> he
> >> have to say this shit:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
> >
> > Really? What did he say that was so bad?
>
> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
> something I also like about him.
>
>
> >> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
> >> under
> >> the bus here:
> >> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
> >
> > He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
> > he'd been told it.
> >
> > Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
> > would be ready for game 1?
> >
> >>
> >> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
> >> it?
> >>
> >> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
> >> an
> >> extension? Jesus.
> >
> > Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
>
> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
> kitchen nightmares.
:-)
Gary
May 24, 2012, 7:55:04 PM5/24/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 15:57:46 -0700, IL wrote:
> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
> have to say this shit:
> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
Kesler seems to have trouble with his labrums:
> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does he
> have to say this shit:
> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
"It's believed diagnostics showed the labrum in Kesler's
shoulder was completely torn."
"Kesler...had labrum surgery on his hip last summer but only
missed the first five games."
labrum: a ring of cartilage surrounding the rim of the the
socket in a ball and socket joint.
http://tinyurl.com/c4gas5b
In any event, an odd statement for V to make. If it wasn't
the torn labrum that was causing Kesler's problems, then
what does he think it might have been?
>
> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis under
> the bus here:
> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
more defense-oriented team when Gillis unequivocally came
out in favour of an offensive-style team in his remarks.
> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
> it?
>
> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to an
> extension? Jesus.
Actually, this will give reporters something to talk about
over the next few days. But, in the long run, I don't think
it will amount to much.
- Gary
dean
May 24, 2012, 8:46:35 PM5/24/12
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"IL" <m...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad...
lip...I've had a lot of employees over the years, admittedly none making 5
mil a year of course, but proffessional or not I think we all have something
in common regardless of economic status. PRIDE.
To have your "boss" publicly discuss your shortcomings is a fine example of
V's mouth moving far faster than his brain, ...You need to talk to a guy
about his job performance?.....you talk to the guy...
...as you say....no good can come of it....
dean
>
IL
May 24, 2012, 9:02:43 PM5/24/12
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"Gary" <Gary.The....@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5peg9h5jp0v4.8...@40tude.net...
Here's Gallagher's take:
http://tinyurl.com/bl8kuj9
news:5peg9h5jp0v4.8...@40tude.net...
http://tinyurl.com/bl8kuj9
IL
May 24, 2012, 11:45:00 PM5/24/12
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Dutch
May 25, 2012, 2:19:20 AM5/25/12
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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article<rkzvr.1014$0x2...@newsfe13.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
>>>> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
>>>> under
>>>> the bus here:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
>>>
>>> He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
>>> he'd been told it.
>>>
>>> Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
>>> would be ready for game 1?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
>>>> an
>>>> extension? Jesus.
>>>
>>> Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
>>
>> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
>> kitchen nightmares.
>
> Not a football guy... ...time to get out and play more golf.
>
> :-)
I used to be able to break 80 on the local courses but my knees are
shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
> In article<rkzvr.1014$0x2...@newsfe13.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
>>>> he
>>>> have to say this shit:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
>>>
>>> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
>>
>> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
>> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
>> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
>> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
>> something I also like about him.
>
> Agreed. I prefer someone who speaks honestly, myself.
Agree or disagree, I'll bet players always know where they stand with him.
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>>> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
>>>> he
>>>> have to say this shit:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
>>>
>>> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
>>
>> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
>> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
>> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
>> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
>> something I also like about him.
>
> Agreed. I prefer someone who speaks honestly, myself.
>>>> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
>>>> under
>>>> the bus here:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
>>>
>>> He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
>>> he'd been told it.
>>>
>>> Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
>>> would be ready for game 1?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come of
>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
>>>> an
>>>> extension? Jesus.
>>>
>>> Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
>>
>> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
>> kitchen nightmares.
>
> Not a football guy... ...time to get out and play more golf.
>
> :-)
shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
foamy
May 25, 2012, 3:21:57 AM5/25/12
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Dutch wrote:
>Agree or disagree, I'll bet players always know where they stand with him.
And so does the public when he throws them under the bus. Apparently
>Agree or disagree, I'll bet players always know where they stand with him.
what goes on in the room, stays in the room, only applies to the players.
Gillis and V have exempted themselves. V with Kesler and Willie, and
Gillis [ i don't talk about this in public--but I will ] with CoHo.
It's reported today that Vs extension was for 3 or 4 years.
I need more head to survive.
I think we can all agree.
Jim
dean
May 25, 2012, 5:25:29 AM5/25/12
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"foamy" <bomb...@wahs.ac> wrote in message
news:lqGvr.30289$CQ3....@news.usenetserver.com...
http://tinyurl.com/c32av8k
.....if it was 3 or 4....my head would likely explode as well. I think he
got 2 to give him a season to turn it around for next years
post-season....if he doesn;t what's a year to eat for the Aquillinis?...
...nothing much..a bottle of Smirnoff for you or I to put it in
perspective.....this 2 year is window dressing IMO,....it's strictly
business...if they tank in the first round....he's out of here. It may as
well be a one year.....cause that;s what they have really given him....
dean
dean
foamy
May 25, 2012, 10:46:07 AM5/25/12
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"dean" wrote:
>......if it was 3 or 4....my head would likely explode as well. I think he
eat, it's not my money. If it was, the prick could have rotted in Quebec
for all I care, but he'd never be allowed to set foot in my building again.
Even to use the bathroom if he had to pee like a race horse after hours
of carrying a sandwich board up and down Griffiths Way blowing smoke
up his own ass. I won 2 Presidents Trophies eh, I won 2 Presidents
Trophies eh, I won....... Asshole.
Jim
>......if it was 3 or 4....my head would likely explode as well. I think he
>got 2 to give him a season to turn it around for next years
>post-season....if he doesn;t what's a year to eat for the Aquillinis?...
They'd be eating 2 years dean. But I don't care how much the Aquiliniiiisis
>post-season....if he doesn;t what's a year to eat for the Aquillinis?...
eat, it's not my money. If it was, the prick could have rotted in Quebec
for all I care, but he'd never be allowed to set foot in my building again.
Even to use the bathroom if he had to pee like a race horse after hours
of carrying a sandwich board up and down Griffiths Way blowing smoke
up his own ass. I won 2 Presidents Trophies eh, I won 2 Presidents
Trophies eh, I won....... Asshole.
Jim
Alan Baker
May 25, 2012, 11:24:28 AM5/25/12
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In article <4xFvr.20733$x11....@newsfe21.iad>, Dutch <n...@email.com>
problem with what Vigneault said.
>
> >>>> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
> >>>> under
> >>>> the bus here:
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
> >>>
> >>> He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
> >>> he'd been told it.
> >>>
> >>> Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
> >>> would be ready for game 1?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come
> >>>> of
> >>>> it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
> >>>> an
> >>>> extension? Jesus.
> >>>
> >>> Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
> >>
> >> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
> >> kitchen nightmares.
> >
> > Not a football guy... ...time to get out and play more golf.
> >
> > :-)
>
> I used to be able to break 80 on the local courses but my knees are
> shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
I'm nuts for the game and despite being short one ACL my left knee still
works OK. I'm trying to get back to where I was a couple years ago:
breaking 80 pretty regularly, personal best of 74, but working with a
pro has actually made me worse...
wrote:
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article<rkzvr.1014$0x2...@newsfe13.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
> >>>> he
> >>>> have to say this shit:
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
> >>>
> >>> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
> >>
> >> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
> >> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
> >> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
> >> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
> >> something I also like about him.
> >
> > Agreed. I prefer someone who speaks honestly, myself.
>
> Agree or disagree, I'll bet players always know where they stand with him.
Yup. It would not surprise me to learn that Kesler has no particular
> Alan Baker wrote:
> > In article<rkzvr.1014$0x2...@newsfe13.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >>> In article<L1zvr.40136$ax3....@newsfe05.iad>, "IL"<m...@shaw.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm a supporter. I think he's a really good coach... but why oh why does
> >>>> he
> >>>> have to say this shit:
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/c26cy8d
> >>>
> >>> Really? What did he say that was so bad?
> >>
> >> His remarks are puzzling. How could a torn tendon in a shoulder NOT
> >> affect performance? It begs the question, if not that then what, not
> >> using his wingers optimally? It just seems unproductive, and an example
> >> of V's shooting from the lip without really thinking his words through,
> >> something I also like about him.
> >
> > Agreed. I prefer someone who speaks honestly, myself.
>
> Agree or disagree, I'll bet players always know where they stand with him.
problem with what Vigneault said.
>
> >>>> Then he seems to throw everyone including the medical staff and Gillis
> >>>> under
> >>>> the bus here:
> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/bnj442n
> >>>
> >>> He didn't throw anyone under a bus. He spoke his mind and told it like
> >>> he'd been told it.
> >>>
> >>> Did you even think to check whether or not Gillis has said that Daniel
> >>> would be ready for game 1?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Like the CoHo comment after his first training camp, what good can come
> >>>> of
> >>>> it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it be unprecedented to fire a coach mere days after signing him to
> >>>> an
> >>>> extension? Jesus.
> >>>
> >>> Look up "tempest in a tea cup".
> >>
> >> Mountains and molehills. I need some football, I can't watch any more
> >> kitchen nightmares.
> >
> > Not a football guy... ...time to get out and play more golf.
> >
> > :-)
>
> I used to be able to break 80 on the local courses but my knees are
> shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
works OK. I'm trying to get back to where I was a couple years ago:
breaking 80 pretty regularly, personal best of 74, but working with a
pro has actually made me worse...
foamy
May 25, 2012, 12:23:56 PM5/25/12
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"IL" wrote:
>And more....
>http://tinyurl.com/d7jblfx
>
>Shadduuuppppp! Just stop speaking. Is he drunk?!?!
No kidding. The guy's a friggin' schlub. The other gms, and the
>And more....
>http://tinyurl.com/d7jblfx
>
>Shadduuuppppp! Just stop speaking. Is he drunk?!?!
knowledgeable newsgroupers like us, knew Gillis was in a pickle
and had to move Luongo, but the schmuck opening his yap, just
lowered to near squat any return of value he could bring.
I can't find a link yet, but it was reported briefly that Nonis said
something to the effect that they would be going after a vet goalie.
Hopefully the hockey show on TEAM590 @ 9:00 am will provide
more info. The best scenario possible for Gillis would be for a couple
teams to want Lou.
Jim
Dutch
May 25, 2012, 3:52:13 PM5/25/12
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players out publicly all the time, most recently Sutter in LA calling
out several of his top players, which is odd because they have been
winning. I think a lot of it is when and how you do it. This particular
comment did not seem well crafted or productive.
Dutch
May 25, 2012, 4:03:16 PM5/25/12
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Alan Baker wrote:
> In article<4xFvr.20733$x11....@newsfe21.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
>> I used to be able to break 80 on the local courses but my knees are
>> shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
>
> I'm nuts for the game and despite being short one ACL my left knee still
> works OK.
Oh yeah, if it was only the knees, I can cart it, but I also have
tendinitis in my left forearm, which if it flares up makes swinging
impossible.
I'm trying to get back to where I was a couple years ago:
> breaking 80 pretty regularly, personal best of 74,
My best was a 77 at Fraserview, in '95. That year I shot under 80 at
least once at every City course, odd because I was not striking the ball
particularly well that year but my short game was completely
unconscious. Since then I improved the rest of my game quite a bit, am
more consistent in every other aspect of the game, look like a hero on
the range, but can't score, have a hard time breaking 90.
> but working with a
> pro has actually made me worse...
Not surprising, I've had no success with lessons either. There's a huge
gap in quality among teaching pros. A few of my buddies signed up as a
group at UBC, they say it is a fantastic deal and the pro is the best.
> In article<4xFvr.20733$x11....@newsfe21.iad>, Dutch<n...@email.com>
>> I used to be able to break 80 on the local courses but my knees are
>> shot. My career is down to a couple of drunk weekends a year :>)
>
> I'm nuts for the game and despite being short one ACL my left knee still
> works OK.
tendinitis in my left forearm, which if it flares up makes swinging
impossible.
I'm trying to get back to where I was a couple years ago:
> breaking 80 pretty regularly, personal best of 74,
least once at every City course, odd because I was not striking the ball
particularly well that year but my short game was completely
unconscious. Since then I improved the rest of my game quite a bit, am
more consistent in every other aspect of the game, look like a hero on
the range, but can't score, have a hard time breaking 90.
> but working with a
> pro has actually made me worse...
gap in quality among teaching pros. A few of my buddies signed up as a
group at UBC, they say it is a fantastic deal and the pro is the best.
Alan Baker
May 25, 2012, 7:54:18 PM5/25/12
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In article <xBRvr.433$CQ6...@newsfe17.iad>, Dutch <n...@email.com>
wrote:
I think in this particular case, most of the fault must be put on me.
When I originally decided to start working with a pro to try and break
through my plateau of about a 9-10 handicap, I promised myself that I'd
give it the time necessary to change my swing, and then I really didn't
do that. Combined with my back starting to give me trouble, I basically
got worse all summer long last year.
But it's getting better again. I did some work with my guy before I got
out on the course (where last year I often found myself caught between
old swing and new swing; equaling no swing) and so I think I'm back on
the right track. We'll see.
Maybe we can get in a round some time.
:-)
wrote:
When I originally decided to start working with a pro to try and break
through my plateau of about a 9-10 handicap, I promised myself that I'd
give it the time necessary to change my swing, and then I really didn't
do that. Combined with my back starting to give me trouble, I basically
got worse all summer long last year.
But it's getting better again. I did some work with my guy before I got
out on the course (where last year I often found myself caught between
old swing and new swing; equaling no swing) and so I think I'm back on
the right track. We'll see.
Maybe we can get in a round some time.
:-)
Dutch
May 25, 2012, 11:12:17 PM5/25/12
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Alan Baker wrote:
> Maybe we can get in a round some time.
I might take you up on that, if my arm survives a couple of sessions at
> Maybe we can get in a round some time.
the range first. My right knee, which has several meniscus tears is
probably good enough to support a swing if I use a power cart. Gotta
love getting old :>)
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