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Cordovero

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Mar 20, 2008, 1:29:31 AM3/20/08
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I know he's supposed to be a great coach ever since Dallas, but Columbus is
only marginally better than Tampa Bay. How long does he get there before
they start to wonder about his reputation as an expert of the game?

C


Sleazy-E

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Mar 20, 2008, 1:41:34 AM3/20/08
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On Mar 20, 1:29 am, "Cordovero" <cordoveroremove...@yahooxxx.com>
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I don't think there's any question that he knows his shit. There are
different types of coaching styles and different types of teams. For
example, Stevens is good with the younger guys, but he still needs
work when it comes to putting a system in place and adjusting to
situations. Hitchcock is the exact opposite. Younger guys hate playing
for Hitchcock.

One area that I think both Stevens and Hitchcock are lacking is
finding the best role for a player. I think they both get it in their
head that certain guys should do certain things and if they can't they
give up on them.

Luke

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:02:02 AM3/20/08
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"Cordovero" <cordovero...@yahooxxx.com> wrote in message
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Columbus has their share of problems that pre-date Hitch and through the
first half of the season when they were playing well, Hitch was touted as a
savior. I think at some point, lack of talent takes over and there is only
so much you can do to cover up the holes on the ice. It's funny, because I
think Hitch would be exactly the kind of guy the Flyers would be looking for
if they were to can Stevens. He's another Mike Keenan although he's not
quite as abrasive and crazy and hasn't coached or managed a hundred teams
yet as Mr. Keenan has. Short term gain for long term pain. Not that that's
a bad thing.


Rick Y

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:13:16 PM3/20/08
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Sleazy-E <DrG...@comcast.net> wrote in
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Like when he put Primeau on the checking line. We need a SteveCock that
can put together decent lines.

Rick

Luke

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:35:21 PM3/20/08
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"Rick Y" <nu...@business.com> wrote in message > Like when he put Primeau on
the checking line. We need a SteveCock that
> can put together decent lines.
>

How about moving Richards from his checking line only role under Hitchcock
to a more offensive responsibility under Stevens? Not a bad move.....


Sleazy-E

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:38:34 PM3/20/08
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On Mar 20, 6:13 pm, Rick Y <nu...@business.com> wrote:

> Like when he put Primeau on the checking line.  We need a SteveCock that
> can put together decent lines.

I actually think that was a great move by Hitch. It took balls to ask
him to do it, and it took a class act of a player to go along with it.
However, Hitch was very reluctant to give younger players a chance to
shine, and that drove me batty. Look at Richards. He was lost in the
shuffle with Hitchcock. With Stevens, he's become the heart of the
team. Both coaches dropped the ball on Carter, though. I've heard
plenty of people say the same thing, so I know I'm not the only one
who thinks he would be a whole new player if he was moved to the
wing.

Know your players. Figure out their strengths and weaknesses and use
them accordingly. That's a coaches job.

Rick Y

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:39:01 PM3/20/08
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"Luke" <rlu...@comcast.net> wrote in
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I thought Richards was third-line..or was that Carter? Where are the
decent lines now. All he needs to do is go back and look at what worked
when the Flyers hit their stride and put it back together. Gagne was out
by then anyway, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Rick

Rick Y

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:40:51 PM3/20/08
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Sleazy-E <DrG...@comcast.net> wrote in news:65906114-8ae0-44aa-b2e9-
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Bingo. Your in, tell Stevens to pack his bags. ;-)

Rick

Sleazy-E

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Mar 20, 2008, 7:33:23 PM3/20/08
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On Mar 20, 6:40 pm, Rick Y <nu...@business.com> wrote:

> Bingo.  Your in, tell Stevens to pack his bags. ;-)

I'd be far worse than Hitchcock and Keenan combined.

"KEEP YOUR LEGS MOVING YOU PUSSSSSSYYYYY!!!"
"THE CORNER WON'T BITE YOU, YOU LITTLE CUNT, GET IN THERE!!!!"

I wouldn't know how to give a compliment someone if my life depended
on it. but I can criticize with the best of 'em.

Hmmm maybe that's why I'm single?

Luke

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Mar 20, 2008, 7:52:54 PM3/20/08
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"Sleazy-E" <DrG...@comcast.net> wrote in message Know your players. Figure
out their strengths and weaknesses and use them accordingly. That's a
coaches job.

True statement although with young players, it isn't always apparent what
their strengths are until they are moved around for a few seasons.
Richards, as you pointed out, is a good example. Carter clearly struggled
until the midpoint of this season and he's been shifted all over the place
and placed with dozens of linemates in order to find out who he fits best
with - which may also be part of his problem. Umberger was ok and showed
promise, but interestingly enough has shown this season that he is one of
those players who can be moved around a little and he can adapt to almost
any position and linemates. The injuries have hurt the Flyers this season
but in the long run I think they'll help management figure out who should
stay and what holes they need to fill. That's assuming that the injury bug
doesn't hit again next season but injuries seem to be a requisite to playing
in Philly. It's getting to be a real old story.


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