Will Cecho sign with the Kings?
edward webb
Do we get to keep the 2nd round pick if Cechmanic doesn't sign in LA and
goes back to Prague?
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"edward webb" <worldw...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> Do we get to keep the 2nd round pick if Cechmanic doesn't sign in LA and
> goes back to Prague?
We don't, but the Flyers do, unless specific language finalizes the trade
pending Chokemanic's signature. Now if the Flyers can ditch some of the
other play-off non-performers.
Rick
Geoffrey Hoover
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Geoffrey Hoover
Kings Acquire Cechmanek From Flyers
By KEN PETERS, AP Sports Writer
LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles Kings (news) acquired goaltender Roman
Cechmanek from the Philadelphia Flyers (news) on Wednesday for a
second-round choice in the 2004 NHL draft.
The Kings have decided to part ways with goalie Felix Potvin (news), who can
become an unrestricted free agent July 1. The Flyers began looking to deal
Cechmanek after they lost to Ottawa in the second round of the playoffs.
"I'm so excited. It was my first choice to play in L.A.," Cechmanek said
from the Czech Republic during a conference call. "It is something new, it's
great for me, gives me a new chance.
"I think maybe it will be different hockey. The Kings play offensive hockey
and I like it, more offensively and more European than in Philadelphia."
Asked if that meant he wants to face more shots than he did for the
defense-minded Flyers, Cechmanek said, "I like it when I get more work and
more shots."
Cechmanek, 32, had a 33-15-10 record in 58 regular-season games for the
Flyers, and his 1.83 goals-against average was second in the league to
Dallas' Marty Turco. Cechmanek's .925 save percentage was third-best in the
NHL.
His career goals-against average is 1.96, lowest among goaltenders with at
least 150 regular-season games since 1943-44. He has 20 shutouts.
An NHL All-Star in 2001, Cechmanek has played in 163 regular-season games
since Philadelphia drafted him in the sixth round of the 2000 NHL entry
draft.
Los Angeles general manager Dave Taylor believes Cechmanek is a good fit for
the Kings.
"His track record speaks volumes," Taylor said. "We feel our coaching staff
will be good for him to work with."
Flyers general manager Bob Clarke said after his team's six-game loss to
Ottawa that Cechmanek's inconsistency in the playoffs would make it
difficult to bring him back.
"He shuts a team out one night, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty
and you let a soft goal in, it takes a lot out of your team emotionally,"
Clarke said after the series.
The goalie's stock with the organization - and fans - obviously went down
when the Flyers were eliminated in the sixth game of their series against
the Senators.
Cechmanek was fully aware of the boos from Philadelphia fans.
"I hear what people say. They hate me. I don't know why they hate me, hate
our team," he said after the playoffs.
Asked Wednesday about his stay in Philadelphia, Cechmanek said, "We had a
couple of problems, not big problems. In the playoffs, maybe it wasn't
great, but not bad.
"It was tough for people, but for me, too. I don't know why that was the
situation. I play for fans and teammates, but the Ottawa team was very
strong and they played great."
Taylor said the Kings would pay all of Cechmanek's salary, reportedly $3
million next season and $3.5 million the following year. Potvin made $3.55
million this season.
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secure.
Rick
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> Yep, Clarke will probably sign Potvin then declare the goalie position to be
> secure.
>
It will be secure.........................for the other team!
bq
:)
No need to tell you you DON'T want Potvin......
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Hopefully the Flyers don't want him either ;-)
Rick
Edgecrusher
trade was to allow the Flyers to negotiate with Potvin before he comes an UFA like the Yotes/JR deal a couple of years ago.
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> I hope not.
>
> Rick
spam you spamming basturdsr.youells@worldnet.att.net Rick
such paultry compensation as a way to send a personal message to them. Same
thing when he traded Klatt, I think the Flyers got a sixth round pick
because Klatt took him to arbitration. As the saying goes one man's
poison's another man's meat.
Rick
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Greg Dubrow
>Nothing surpises me anymore. It almost seems as if he trades players for
>such paultry compensation as a way to send a personal message to them. Same
>thing when he traded Klatt, I think the Flyers got a sixth round pick
>because Klatt took him to arbitration. As the saying goes one man's
>poison's another man's meat.
This is EXACTLY the problem -- when Clarke doesn't like a guy, he gives
him away for beans. He lets personal animus get in the way of the deal
(the Lindros trade looks good now, but if he had become the player he was,
we'd all be wondering why all we got was Johnsson and {in effect}
Brashear.
Brad McCrimmon, Klatt, Cechmanek and others are great examples.
g
Heeere's Johnny
Recchi and Sundin for Lindros??
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to take the 8.5 million, then fuck him and the orange horse he rode in on.
Rick
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edward webb
you need to follow up on the trade and see who we get for that 2004 pick
and then watch that guy for the next 10 years
you may trade a guy away in 2003,that brings you a pick in 2004 and that
bloke wins the cup for you in 2008
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Greg Dubrow
>"Rick" <No spam you spamming basturds...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
>> > I thought Potvin was going to be part of that three way deal where get
>> > Recchi and Sundin for Lindros??
>> Please say it's true. I'm getting so tired of lindros, if he doesn't want
>> to take the 8.5 million, then fuck him and the orange horse he rode in on.
>We can't get to the finals without him. Mark my words,
But the team would just choke anyway, I'll bet.
g
Jon Hodes
at No spam you spamming basturds...@worldnet.att.net wrote on 5/29/03
3:30 PM:
> Nothing surpises me anymore. It almost seems as if he trades players for
> such paultry compensation as a way to send a personal message to them. Same
> thing when he traded Klatt, I think the Flyers got a sixth round pick
> because Klatt took him to arbitration. As the saying goes one man's
> poison's another man's meat.
>
my gf suggested the same thing, and i dismissed it completely. maybe you're
both onto something here; being that clarke is such a complete moron, he'd
put himself ahead of the team.
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The fact that he got it done so quickly for so little seems to point in that
direction. I'm hoping that Cecho was in fact a major benefactor of the
defensive system and that any goalie that stands between the pipes for the
Flyers will have good success. Hoping ;-)
Rick
Cordo
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message > The fact that he got it done so quickly for so little seems to
point in that
> direction. I'm hoping that Cecho was in fact a major benefactor of the
> defensive system and that any goalie that stands between the pipes for the
> Flyers will have good success. Hoping ;-)
Then why was Eshe's win percentage this season so much lower than Roman's?
And he was usually played against the softer teams?
C
Edgecrusher
poor when he was only playing once every 2 or 3 weeks. That had an affect on his stats that wont be a problem if he is going to be
playing as a #1.
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Shinner
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> The fact that he got it done so quickly for so little seems to point
> in that direction. I'm hoping that Cecho was in fact a major
> benefactor of the defensive system and that any goalie that stands
> between the pipes for the Flyers will have good success. Hoping ;-)
That's the theory right? And also what kept Roamin' from being "the man",
he just didn't get enough work...and he "thrives" on alot of shots.
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well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not
otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world... The
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Possibly because he only saw action about once every four games. It's kind
of hard to get in a groove when you're not the man. He started out with
numbers very close to Cechmanics, but then they tapered off as the seaoson
went on and he started to see less action.
Rick
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> "Rick" <No spam you spamming basturds...@worldnet.att.net> wrote
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>
> > The fact that he got it done so quickly for so little seems to point
> > in that direction. I'm hoping that Cecho was in fact a major
> > benefactor of the defensive system and that any goalie that stands
> > between the pipes for the Flyers will have good success. Hoping ;-)
>
> That's the theory right? And also what kept Roamin' from being "the man",
> he just didn't get enough work...and he "thrives" on alot of shots.
What kept Roman from being the man is his tendency to wander around and his
unwillingness to learn proper positioning ie.... dropping to his knees while
holding the paddle on the ice for plays too far from the net. He was great
on break-aways and head saves though.
Rick
Trailer Trash
Jon Hodes
cordoveroR...@yahoo.com wrote on 5/30/03 1:42 PM:
why? it's very simple. because his playing time was severely reduced in the
second half of the season; a coaching decision not based on his performance,
but based on their choice to prep Roman for the playoffs.
in the first half the seaon, when he played with regularity, his numbers
were outstanding and he was arguably playing better than roman. he suffered
when he got to play once a month, and there's nothing surprising about that.
the kid is 25 and needs to play in order to develop and gain confidence. you
don't do that by playing every four weeks. and cock's perspective on the
matter was ridiculous imho.
i'm very confident that if he gets a chance to be the number one guy, he
will become just that.
-j.
Vinnie
Hello. Trent fucking Klatt? You think Trent fucking Klatt was worth
$2 mill + a year that he got in arbitration? The same Trent fucking
Klatt that got assigned to the minors in that oh-so-talent-rich
Canucks team? Give me a fucking break. Trent Klatt was, is and will
forever remain a 3rd liner/4th liner. We can get players like that
for future considerations. Here's a list of equivalent players:
Sacco, Kallio, Marty Murray (who's actually better than Trent fucking
Klatt), Lapointe (who is also better than Trent fucking Klatt). Bob
Corkum had a 33 goal season once, IIRC - shall we pay him $3 mill a
year (hey, 33 goals is more than Trent fucking Klatt's 20).
As for Cechmanek, let's face it - he blew it in this post-season. He
was the reason we lost. What the fuck are we going to get for a
goalie that is 32, making $3 mil a year, is inconsistent in the
playoffs and a bit of a headcase?
I advise everyone who is bitching about the Cechmanek trade to read
Gerald Olchowy's post in the "A frigging 2nd round pick for Cechmanek"
thread and tell me which team would be willing to give up a first
rounder and/or prospects and/or players for Cechmanek?
Or do you think that while he isnt good enough for the Flyers, he is
good enough for Detroit and Colorado? Use your fucking brains, folks.
El V.
PS: Trent fucking Klatt my arse
Vinnie
> both onto something here; being that clarke is such a complete moron, he'd
> put himself ahead of the team.
That's bullshit. Clarke lives and breathes Orange and Black. He
hasnt gotten us a top notch goalie (if only he had signed Cujo), he
hasnt gotten us a top-flight offensive Dman who can QB the PP and take
the workload off Rico, true.
But I do not see him ever putting himself ahead of the
team/organization.
Maybe my brain is wired the same way, but I understand - and kinda
like - the way he handles things (especially the
blowing-up-at-the-press question). He does what he thinks is best for
the Flyers and he doesnt care about the PR aspect - I dig that.
I know I sound like the president of the Bobby Clarke Fan Club, which
I am not, but I think this NG is too eager to bust on him for no
particular reason.
Vinnie
> The fact that he got it done so quickly for so little seems to point in that
> direction. I'm hoping that Cecho was in fact a major benefactor of the
> defensive system and that any goalie that stands between the pipes for the
> Flyers will have good success. Hoping ;-)
I'm not that concerned about our regular season goaltending. Pretty
much every goalie we've had in the past 10 years has had great regular
season stats - even Hexie during the tail end of his career.
I'm leading the "Bring on Biron" brigade.
El V.
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He would be a decent acquisition, IF he doesn't cost the Flyers any of the
core players.
Rick
Salzy
> As for Cechmanek, let's face it - he blew it in this post-season. He
> was the reason we lost.
If that is the only change the Flyers make, I think you are going to be
disappointed by the results again next year. Cechmanek let in a soft goal
or two, no doubt, but this team is going nowhere with special teams play
like we had in the Ottawa series. If you want to point to "the reason we
lost", you need look no further than the horrid power play.
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Exactamundo.
Rick
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> If that is the only change the Flyers make, I think you are going to
> be disappointed by the results again next year. Cechmanek let in a
> soft goal or two, no doubt, but this team is going nowhere with
> special teams play like we had in the Ottawa series. If you want to
> point to "the reason we lost", you need look no further than the
> horrid power play.
Don't forget to include the shorties on the PP vs Toronto as well.
Wayne
shi...@removemeearthlink.net says...
I had blocked those from memory...
Wayne
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Salzy
Absolutely. If our PP could have managed to be merely even (as opposed
to -2 or -4 or whatever they were) we might have squeaked by Ottawa.