Moving Rumor??
Gary R. Gomola, CPA
I have been hearing a rumor on and off in various places about the
Islanders possibly moving. One of the sites mentioned in Hartford.
Anybody else hearing this??
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Gary R. Gomola, CPA
Gomola & DiBella, LLP, CPAs
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beast
On 10 Nov 1997 03:38:52 GMT, George Epstein <ALL...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
>Yes I have. They will move to either Hartford,Winnipeg, or Quebec city.
>The logic of course being that if a team didn't work there before, you
>might as well put another one there.
>
wcbeast wrote
im sorry to say , your both wrong. first the rangers
farm team is in hartford. second there is a clause in the contract to
keep the islanders on the island. 3rd with the sale of the islanders
( hopefully dec 3-4 ) the new owners get to develope 70 plus acres of
land. please after the spano shit us true islander fans dont need to
here this
George Epstein
Beast, I was just being sarcastic. No way the Isles are moving to
Hartford. I thought the rumor was humorous though.
Yesternite
>I have been hearing a rumor on and off in various places about the
>Islanders possibly moving. One of the sites mentioned in Hartford.
>Anybody else hearing this??
I can't believe this is so. Hartford is such a small market compared to L.I.
Personally, I think the Isles have to move more towards the city to a place
like Staten Island. It's the only way this team will be able to compete for
fan support. You only have to look at the number of posts this newsgroup gets
to the number of posts the Ranger newsgroup gets to understand that this is
the case. There are not enough fans in Long Island to be able to compete with
the fanbase of a team that's in the heart of N.Y.C.
George Epstein
>Islanders possibly moving. One of the sites mentioned in Hartford.
>Anybody else hearing this??
Bert & the Squirts
Yesternite wrote:
> >I have been hearing a rumor on and off in various places about the
> >Islanders possibly moving. One of the sites mentioned in Hartford.
> >Anybody else hearing this??
>
> I can't believe this is so. Hartford is such a small market compared
> to L.I.
> Personally, I think the Isles have to move more towards the city to a
> place
> like Staten Island. It's the only way this team will be able to
> compete for
> fan support. You only have to look at the number of posts this
> newsgroup gets
> to the number of posts the Ranger newsgroup gets to understand that
> this is
> the case. There are not enough fans in Long Island to be able to
> compete with
> the fanbase of a team that's in the heart of N.Y.C.
and your answer to this is putting the team CLOSER to the team they
are competing with? People that read this ng should really try harder
to recognize sarcasm when they see it...
HARTFORD????
Yesternite
> and your answer to this is putting the team CLOSER to the team they
>are competing with? People that read this ng should really try harder
>to recognize sarcasm when they see it...
Well, sarcasm or no sarcasm, the Islanders should move. Right now the only
thing going for them is some TV time. Other than that, the situation is
hopeless. By moving to the city, they quickly pick up a decent fanbase. It
doesn't matter if they are near the Rangers. Compared to where they are now,
it would be hockey heaven. The arena is not called the Nassau Mausoleum for
nothing, you know.
Now, the Meadowlands would have been ideal, if the Devils would have moved to
Nashville, but obviously that did not happen. No, the only way out of the
dead fanbase they are in is to move closer to the City. The only other way is
out of town, and neither you nor I want to see that happen.
Yesternite
>>There are not enough fans in Long Island to be able to compete with
>> the fanbase of a team that's in the heart of N.Y.C.
>
>to
> islander games unless you were a season ticket holder. fans will sell out
>the
> coliseum when islander management decides to open up their wallet and start
>to
> sign some players who can score on a regular basis. untill such time, fans
> will not believe that the owners of this team are serious about winning.
Nah, whether the Rangers are winning or losing, they put butts on those seats,
because they are in N.Y.C. Sure, if you're winning 4 Stanleys in a row, but
otherwise, they just cannot compete. Most of Long Island is just not the type
to go out and root for a team. You need that city atmosphere, and they can't
get it in L.I.
George Epstein
I'm not so sure about that. Taking into account all the positive steps
taken by the Islanders and the certainty that they are staying on LI, I
would say the only person who would suggest a move would be... A RANGER
FAN
Steve Salerno
> >Well, sarcasm or no sarcasm, the Islanders should move. Right now the only
> > thing going for them is some TV time. Other than that, the situation is
> > hopeless. By moving to the city, they quickly pick up a decent fanbase. It
> > doesn't matter if they are near the Rangers. Compared to where they are now,
> > it would be hockey heaven. The arena is not called the Nassau Mausoleum for
> > nothing, you know.
> >
The arena is called the Nassau Mausoleum by Steve Sommers - a "man" who
privately admits to A) Having little or no real hockey knowledge
whatsoever and B) Also privately admits to being anti-Islander simply
to get a response from Rangers fans to assure he gets phone calls.
Sommers, and the legion of drunk, uninformed Ranger fans (The ones who
were annoyed last month when they pulled Richter Vs. the Isles
for...Healy?) are the only ones who call it the Mausoleum.
The only place the Islanders will be is in Nassau County, with their
multiple Hall of Fame alumni and 4 Cup banners. The fan base will
return as the team gets better (Which it is) and the FINAL, REAL exit
of the ogre, John Pickett. We can argue all day about why the
attendance has stunk over the years, barring the 1993 run, but the fact
is they will be on LI for a long, long time.
Steve Salerno
BLotto27
you obviously weren't around in the early 80's when you couldn't get tickets to
islander games unless you were a season ticket holder. fans will sell out the
coliseum when islander management decides to open up their wallet and start to
sign some players who can score on a regular basis. untill such time, fans
will not believe that the owners of this team are serious about winning.
In 1979 I got my season tix to the Isles from some putz in Hicksville....My old
man and I paid $1 over face value for tix to all home games....The worst part
about it was we did not get any playoffs at all......But thats what you had to
do to see the greatest team in hockey history live....We did this in one
format or another until 1985 the first year season tix became
available....Kept the tix until 90 or so, when Pickett let Lafontaine hold out
, when Berg left camp and signed with Toronto? for nothing, when we passed on
numerous deals for Leclair, when Raimo Helminen was a regular, we gave them
up..and doing all this we commuted from Brooklyn!!! Aside from the
Rankers,,teams that don't win don't draw(and I will bet if the Rankers go in
the tank bad now that the hex is over many seats will be empty)..If Milbury
pulls the trigger...I'll be back full time...and we won't be alone!!!!!
-From the days when 16297 was standard
Yesternite
>We can argue all day about why the
>attendance has stunk over the years, barring the 1993 run, but the fact
>is they will be on LI for a long, long time.
>
>Steve Salerno
Steve, what inside information do you have that assures this of being so? As
far as I see it, there is a new owner in town, and he may very well have
intentions of moving this team out of Long Island. IMHO, this would be a
great thing to consider.
Steve Salerno
In article <19971118050...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
yeste...@aol.com (Yesternite) writes:
> >We can argue all day about why the
> >attendance has stunk over the years, barring the 1993 run, but the fact
> >is they will be on LI for a long, long time.
> >
> >Steve Salerno
>
> Steve, what inside information do you have that assures this of being so? As
> far as I see it, there is a new owner in town, and he may very well have
> intentions of moving this team out of Long Island.
In an ordinary situation, I would agree. But, Gluckstern has stated he
has no intention of moving the Isles. If that were the case, he
wouldn't have gotten involved, as he already bought a team & moved
it...he isn't in the business of buying teams with the intention of
relocating then in different parts of the US. And, seeing how two of
the three people involved in this transaction are real estate moguls,
and factor in the prospect of a lucrative development of the land
involved in the transaction...which includes the 65 acres of land
around the NVMC, you can rest assured that these real estate guys are
mainly interested in the land. And they wouldn't even have bothered
getting involved unless that prospect was possible.
>IMHO, this would be a great thing to consider.
What would be a great thing to consider? Moving them? Where...
You have 4 expansion teams coming in, and the Oilers moving to
Houston...
Forget the Islanders moving. Unless the redevelopment falls through,
which is not likely at this point, it ain't happening. Sorry to
disappoint you.
Steve Salerno
Ticalstal9
Put it this way..Gluckstern is a new yorker and 75% of his reason for buying
the isles was to own a team in new york......its that simple...forget about
land deals, and real estate and profit margins in other areas......fact of
thje matter is, gluckstern has always been in a new york state of mind and
that is why he decided that the coyotes just werent his cup of tea. :-)
Frankie
George Epstein
yeste...@aol.com (Yesternite) wrote:
>>We can argue all day about why the
>>attendance has stunk over the years, barring the 1993 run, but the fact
>>is they will be on LI for a long, long time.
>>
>>Steve Salerno
>
>Steve, what inside information do you have that assures this of being so? As
> far as I see it, there is a new owner in town, and he may very well have
> great thing to consider.
I have another great thing to consider. Why don't you get the hell off of
this board!
Yesternite
>>Steve, what inside information do you have that assures this of being so?
>As
>> far as I see it, there is a new owner in town, and he may very well have
>> intentions of moving this team out of Long Island. IMHO, this would be a
>> great thing to consider.
>
>I have another great thing to consider. Why don't you get the hell off of
>this board!
Why would I get off of this board? I'm an Islander fan, and all I'm trying to
do is have a civilized discussion about the longstanding rumor that the team
is leaving Long Island. I'm sorry if I said something that you thought was
abrasive. I assure you, I had and have the best of intentions. And freedom
of speech, of course.
But I'll repeat... Whether they're winning or losing, the Rangers have a huge
fan base. The Islanders do not. The only way this team can vie for fan
support is if they get out of Long Island. Long Island is a great place, but
it does not breed sports fanatics... at least not the kind that go to hockey
games, day in and day out. Sure there are a few, but not at all enough for a
team that plays in the New York Metropolitan Area. That's not just an
opinion... that is a sad fact.
George Epstein
The colisseum was packed every night until 1986. That is when Pickett
decided to cut backt he purse strings. Long Island doesn't breed hockey
fanatics? Let me tell you something, I attend Hofstra University and
literally everybody there is an Islander fan. I have family in Jersey.
My cousin and all of his friends are Islander fans. Right now, Islander
fans are looking for signs. Don't forget, 12,500 per game isn't great,
but it is a step up from 10,000 per game of 5 years ago. As the team
improves, so will attendance. The Islanders have a huge fan base, the
main problem is getting them active agsin. So many Islander fans became
silent fans over the past 10 years (as in "yes I am an islander fan, no i
couldn't name 10 players on the team). How you could admit the existence
of the Isles of 1975-1985, and still say hockey on long island won't
work, is beyond me. I hate to say it, but if you pride yourself on being
an islander fan, and want to see the team moved, you aren't much of a
fan. That is not just an opinion, it is a sad fact.
Mike Dwyer
In article <34668a69...@news.erols.com>,
wcb...@spawn-rules.com (beast) wrote:
>
> On 10 Nov 1997 03:38:52 GMT, George Epstein <ALL...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >>I have been hearing a rumor on and off in various places about the
> >>Islanders possibly moving. One of the sites mentioned in Hartford.
> >>Anybody else hearing this??
> >>
> >>-------------
> >>Gary R. Gomola, CPA
> >>Gomola & DiBella, LLP, CPAs
> >>http:\\www.ctcpas.com
> >>ga...@ctcpas.com
> >
> >
> >Yes I have. They will move to either Hartford,Winnipeg, or Quebec city.
> >The logic of course being that if a team didn't work there before, you
> >might as well put another one there.
> >
>
> im sorry to say , your both wrong. first the rangers
> farm team is in hartford. second there is a clause in the contract to
> keep the islanders on the island. 3rd with the sale of the islanders
> ( hopefully dec 3-4 ) the new owners get to develope 70 plus acres of
> land. please after the spano shit us true islander fans dont need to
> here this
Well said...As a former Hartford Fan (season ticket holder), I really
would not like to see the Isles move to Hartford. The Islanders belong
on Long Island! not in New Jersey (even though I live there), Staten
Island, Hartford, Quebec, or anyplace else... The day the Isles were to
ever move off Long Island that would be the day I stopped watching the
NHL...
Mike
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JetFan
I agree with yesternite. Anything is possible. Look at Spano. Who would
have thought that would happen. I think they'll give it a go here for a
while. There are alot of factors why attendance isn't great. For one, I
think its too expensive. Two, they haven't been very good. Three, they
really aren't that exciting. I don't think they bang enough.
Yesternite <yeste...@aol.com> wrote in article
<19971120004...@ladder02.news.aol.com>...
Bill Johnston
The Islanders will never leave Long Island. CableVision already has locked
them up in the most lucrative contract for an NHL team. Spano was an
aberration caused by Nassua County's greed to build a central meca. With
the new ownership, look for this project to be refined into something more
palatable for the county taxpayers. If seat prices weren't as high as
they are, and the Isles were winning, you'd find out how large of a fan base
they can generate. But now, most suburbanites are happy with their
SportsChannel, no parking hassle, no crowded parkway. Besides, when you
go to the NVMC there's nothing but the arena in the immediate area. Sure
you can go to Bogart's down the block, or into the Marriot. But what else
is there for the fans? Will Tommy G. get his monorail from Roosevelt
Field to the new arena? Just one thought, when are they going to nuke the
old racetrack grandstand? Another reason cental Nassau isn't the garden
spot of LI.
Mike Dwyer wrote in message <8797271...@dejanews.com>...
Edward Webb
can we say winnepeg islanders?
Edward Webb
i knoe a way to make the fan base huge on the island (1)-move the
islanders to winnepg
(2)-move the rangers to uniondale
Edward Webb
what is the differance between the rangers and the streets of manhatten?
answer-sometimes the rangers get swept
islandude
Believe it or not smart guy, according to the November 28th's edition of
the Hockey News, the Islanders lead the league in average attendance
increase over last year. They are 10% over last year with an average of
12,341 per game, or 75% capacity. And its only going to get better.
JetFan
They're not moving. But I hate when they show up against the $angers and
then go out and lose to Philly. They are not getting to the next level.
Getting there is when you beat the $angers at home, then go on the road and
winning there. We just keep stubbing our toe. We tie the damn thing then
get hammered.
Edward Webb <edwardo...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<65irms$nj1$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
BLotto27
.>can we say winnepeg islanders?
Can you spell?
bigalgr
Edward Webb <edwardo...@webtv.net> wrote in article
<65is8m$nkc$1...@newsd-161.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...
> what is the differance between the rangers and the streets of manhatten?
>
> answer-sometimes the rangers get swept
what is the difference between the 1994 Isles and the parking lot at the NC
Mausoleum?
answer-the fishsticks do get swept!!
Have a nice day....illiterate!!
ADB