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Dan Sgambelluri

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Canadiens Hockey Team Attracts Big Buyer Interest

By Charles Grandmont

MONTREAL (Reuters) - The fabled Montreal Canadiens, the hockey team that has
won more Stanley Cup championships than any other, has drawn the attention
of several would-be buyers since brewer Molson Inc. put the team up for sale
last month, a spokesman said on Wednesday.

A deal is expected to be sealed by the end of the year, Canadiens
vice-president of marketing Pierre Ladouceur said.

He declined to comment on reports that media conglomerate CanWest Global
Communications Corp. had expressed interest in buying the team.

``All we can say is that the process is going very well,'' Ladouceur told
Reuters.

``We have been told that the timeframe should be respected, and...a deal
should be done by the end of the year,'' he added.

Seeking to free its stock from the burden of a money-loosing hockey team,
Molson asked Morgan Stanley Dean Witter and Nesbitt Burns to take charge of
the sale, reversing its previous decision never to part with the team it
bought more than 40 years ago.

Canadian media reported on Wednesday that CanWest president and chief
executive, Leonard Asper, could be preparing a bid for the Canadiens to add
more content on the sports side of his television business.

CanWest announced on Monday a sweeping C$3.5 billion ($2.4 billion) deal to
buy most of press baron Conrad Black's Canadian newspapers and Internet
assets and hence become Canada's largest media player, with a stable that
also includes the country's third-largest television network.

Asper -- from the wheat-growing province of Manitoba -- has said that his
group now has ``a sports silo that has to be filled with some content'', but
declined to specify any plans to make a bid for the Canadiens. A CanWest
spokesman said he could not comment more on the subject on Wednesday.

He said a sports team offered ``massive cross-promotion opportunities'' for
big conglomerates being formed at the crossroad of the traditional media
industry and the Internet. Other possible Canadian suitors for the Canadiens
include printing and publishing group Quebecor Inc., telecoms and
broadcasting group BCE Inc. (NYSE:BCE - news) and cable provider Rogers
Communications Inc. (NYSE:RG - news) .

Molson, which made the team's continued stay in Montreal a condition of any
sale, said it will remain the team's primary corporate partner for at least
20 years through a sponsorship agreement it valued at C$150 million.
Canada's oldest brewer has also put the Canadiens' arena, the four-year-old
Molson Centre, on the auction block along with other assets as part of a
restructuring campaign to refocus the firm on its core brewing business.
Molson has a 45 percent market share of the Canadian beer market.

The Canadiens, winners of a record 24 Stanley Cup championships and the home
to such hockey legends as Maurice ''Rocket'' Richard, Jean Beliveau and
Georges Vezina, have fallen on relatively hard times since last hoisting the
trophy in 1993.

In missing the NHL playoffs for the past two seasons, the team has hurt the
bottom line of Molson's sports and entertainment unit, with a loss of more
than C$10 million ($6.8 million) over the last two years. The company had
overall sales of C$2.5 billion last year, and lost C$44 million after
accounting for C$224 million in provisions for restructuring and other
nonrecurring items.

Molson class A shares were up 20 Canadian cents at C$31.50 on the Toronto
Stock Exchange on Wednesday. The issue had been trading in a C$31.75 to
C$21.10 range in the last 12 months.


http://ca.dailynews.yahoo.com/ca/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/ca/20000802/ts/
canadiens_sale_col_1.html

Brian Taylor

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Wasn't Izzy Casper part of the original ownership of the Jets?

I seem to remember that he was involved somehow and it wasn't with pleasant
connotations. Still, things have changed a lot for him in the last 10 years.
The other interested groups could be good for the team, I hope things go
well for them.

I like the rivalry between the Leafs and the Canadiens, and I would like to
see the Canadiens more competitive this year.

Brian T

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Latenight

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Definitely good news on the Habs sale. We definitely need a more
competitive Montreal Canadiens team in the NHL.


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François Paulin

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If CanWest Global does indeed buy the Habs.... you can kiss HNIC / La Soirée
du Hockey goodbye on CBC/SRC. Well I guess so much for tradition huh..

"We live to survive our paradoxes"

F.

Neil Faba

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François Paulin (fran...@videotron.ca) wrote:
> If CanWest Global does indeed buy the Habs.... you can kiss HNIC / La Soirée
> du Hockey goodbye on CBC/SRC. Well I guess so much for tradition huh..

the Habs are getting shafted in this year's HNIC schedule anyhow. If
CanWest does by the Habs, it seems a fair bet that there'll be a few more
Habs games shown outside of Quebec on Global than there has been on CBC.

I hate to see HNIC lose the Habs, but as long as they're so Leafs-centric,
do they really deserve the Habs?

Harry Delaney

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Neil Faba wrote:

> the Habs are getting shafted in this year's HNIC schedule anyhow. If
> CanWest does by the Habs, it seems a fair bet that there'll be a few more
> Habs games shown outside of Quebec on Global than there has been on CBC.
>
> I hate to see HNIC lose the Habs, but as long as they're so Leafs-centric,
> do they really deserve the Habs?

No one deserves the Habs...I would'nt wish them on my worst enemy

HD


Dan Sgambelluri

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I hate watching the Leafs play on HNIC. I prefer to watch paint dry that
watch the Leafs play.


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Sambeatles

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>No one deserves the Habs...I would'nt wish them on my worst enemy

You sound like a girl with a lot of enemies.
Anyway, once teams start running Cujo, and he gets hurt, and the Laffs don't
make the playoffs, then the Leaves fans will go back into the closet where they
belong.

Sambeatles

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>prefer to watch paint dry that
>watch the Leafs play.

I prefer watching corn grow.

Michael

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I prefer watching milk curdle

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HabAnatic

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Girls soccer...

HabAnatic

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CarpeVelo

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>Girls soccer...
>

Unneccessary cheap shot.

Danny Clarke

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amateur golf...

Mighty Leafs

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Nice to know that a 2.5 billion dollar business will sell an icon of Candian
culture because of a 10 million dollar loss. They would probably denounce Jesus
if his ratings dropped!

Danny Clarke

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How are they "selling" it? It's more like promoting, dontcha think?

HabAnatic

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I have to admit, I pre- judged you, Mighty Leafs, by your handle but you seem to be
fair and reasonable in assessing things unlike some other cross posters. I
encourage any other non hab fan with an objective point of view to add to our
discussions in a.s.h.n.mtl-canadiens. Now if we could stop some of our unscrupulous
trolls (ManU & GoHabsGo & PuckMan have at times shown promise yet never
sustained...)

HabAnatic

Mr Sharp

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fire Houle and they wont lose any more money.


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> How are they "selling" it? It's more like promoting, dontcha think?
>

Mike Ritchie

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You won't see the Habs locally on Global unless there's no
Leaf game. To go up against a Leaf telecast in Toronto is
suicide. Canwest has stations all across Canada however
that likely would carry the games, depending on market
interest.


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IamCanadianJoe

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What game Global carries depends on what region you are in as well. So
unless you are from Quebec you will not likely see a Habs game on Global
and,I say regretfully, I think nation-wide you will see more Leafs games
everywhere because of the local bias Global has being originally from
Toronto.


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Van

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IamCanadianJoe <sweil...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What game Global carries depends on what region you are in as well. So
> unless you are from Quebec you will not likely see a Habs game on Global
> and,I say regretfully, I think nation-wide you will see more Leafs games
> everywhere because of the local bias Global has being originally from
> Toronto.

Not to mention higher ratings so that IamCanadianJoe can sell more suds.
Not everything's a Toronto conspiracy ... sometimes it just makes more
economic sense.

Van


Sambeatles

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>To go up against a Leaf telecast in Toronto is
>suicide.

It's not suicide. However, the Leafs my have territorial rights. I live in
Windsor, Ont, and the Detriot RedWings got the Leafs kicked off a local radio
station because of the Wings territorial rights.

Ian

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To go up against a Leaf telecast in Toronto is...giving all the
ex-Montrealers and native-Toronto Habs fans an ALTERNATIVE to the
leafs...there are tons of people in TO that will watch the Habs over the
Leafs

Stavro

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but you have to look at the numbers. Sure there are alot of guys the would
watch the habs over the leafs but look at how many would watch a leaf game
and how many would watch the other games. Just look at the playoffs when
CBC had the lefs and SportsNet had other teams.

Mike Ritchie

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs aired mostly
everywhere outside of Quebec, especially in the west where
are likely more popular that the Habs. The people at
Canwest aren't stupid though. If the market decrees that
more people (and therefore more advertising dollars) want
to watch a particular team in a given region then that's
who they will air.

Mike Ritchie

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Interesting, I didn't know that. I'm not sure what league
mandated broadcast rights are like. TV execs, however,
carry a lot of clout when they wave big dollars around. I
can't see the Detroit Red Wings regulating what a Canadian
network can air in Ontario.

Mike Ritchie

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Possibly, but the Leaf fan base vastly outnumbers the Hab
fan base in the GTA. Who knows, they may still try to
broadcast vs the Leafs on a given night. It's not about
the relative number of fans, it's about the number of
advertising dollars to go around. A major sponsor is going
to pick the biggest audience.

Stavro

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they can because all teams have something like a 50 mile radius that is
there region

Peter Morris

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Mike Ritchie (michael.rit...@swchsc.on.ca.invalid) wrote:
: I wouldn't be surprised if the Leafs aired mostly


: everywhere outside of Quebec, especially in the west where
: are likely more popular that the Habs. The people at
: Canwest aren't stupid though. If the market decrees that
: more people (and therefore more advertising dollars) want
: to watch a particular team in a given region then that's
: who they will air.


It's not the market that makes the decree, it's the NHL and to a lesser extent
the teams. For example, Atlantic Canada is considered Habs territory by the
NHL, thus the only TSN national games broadcast in Atlantic Canada are Habs
games. The Leafs on TSN are blacked out. This is patently silly because there are
many thousands of Leafs fans (and agruably more or at least as many as Habs fans)
living there.

Altantic Canadians can also see Ottawa games on CTVSN because the Sens and the
Habs have a recipricol agreement to allow each others' broadcasts into each
others' exclusive territory. The Leafs refuse to do this kind of deal with either
the Sens or the Habs.

The result is that Leafs fans in Atlantic Canada are shut out, except for the
occasional HNiC broadcast (and even then it is up to the whims of the CBC
schedulers who, in years past were just as likely to schedule the Habs as the
Leafs, disregarding the fact that the Habs are on EVERY Saturday night on French
CBC in Atlantic Canada and across the country).

The NHL really needs to revisit its regional broadcasting rules. The Leafs need
to be more coniliatory with the Habs and the Sens on broadcasting territorites.
And the CBC should force its national French affiliate to show something other
than Montreal once in a while (why can't they show at least one Leafs, Sens,
Flames, Oilers and Canucks game per year?).

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FamilyMan

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Aug 22, 2000, 12:48:13 AM8/22/00
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Well last season there were not as many Canadiens games on the French CBC
due to their poor performance but that doesn't do me any good since I can't
speak french!

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Mike Ritchie

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Does that mean they can block out HNIC on CBC in Windsor or
does this apply only to local broadcasts.

RICK MCKELLAR

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Mike Ritchie wrote:

> Does that mean they can block out HNIC on CBC in Windsor or
> does this apply only to local broadcasts.

HNIC on CBC is not blacked out in Windsor. We get the Leafs every time that they are televised. CBC, TSN, ONTV, whoever is showing the Leafs, we get it.

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