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Canada versus Stacey Livingston

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Earl

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Feb 22, 2002, 7:39:58 AM2/22/02
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What a game. Probably the best Olympic Canadian hockey moment, at least in
my lifetime.

But, oy, when did the rules permit a hosting nation playing in the gold
medal game to supply the head official.
Livingston's call of the game could, at best, be considered catering to a
home crowd, and at worst, be considered another officiating scandal. I have
never seen a hockey game officiated in such an uneven manner. Never. Ever,
in any league, at any level. I realize that the women's body checking
rules are unique, but the phantom tripping calls were just too much to
watch. The game had all the makings of a classic, had Livingston put her
whistle away for a awhile.

Canada wins, despite fighting a home crowd and a home ref. That makes it an
amazing accomplishment.

George O'Reilly

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Feb 22, 2002, 8:28:35 AM2/22/02
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Earl wrote:

> I realize that the women's body checkingrules are unique, but the phantom


> tripping calls were just too much to watch.

Perhaps there aren't qualified refs outside of Canada and the US, or perhaps
they are hung up on having female refs. I don't know, but certainly, there are
some qualified male refs that could have done the game. There are gentlemans
leagues all over the the place that have refs doing no-body checking games. I
suppose it wouldn't be such a big deal if the ref hadn't been so biased. I have
seen North American international games refed by North Americans and they called
reasonable games. Perhaps it is either due to total incompetence or bias on
this particular ref's part. She did make a couple of bum calls against the US
too. It's just that she seemed to make way more questionable calls against
Canada.

Ian Merrithew

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Feb 22, 2002, 12:58:58 PM2/22/02
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George O'Reilly <go...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message news:<3C764783...@accesswave.ca>...

> Perhaps there aren't qualified refs outside of Canada and the US, or perhaps
> they are hung up on having female refs.
The version of the story at the TSN website is stating that male
referees aren't permitted in women's hockey. The only reason I can
see for that, is to try and train women referees, since otherwise men
would just draw all the assignments anyway. Politically correct BS if
you ask me, but anyhow...

Also, apparently the only non-NA country with IIHF qualified women
officials is currently Finland, but the IIHF did not feel that the top
Finnish referee had enough experience to handle this game. Therefore,
it fell to the overall top referee, which, unbelievably, is
Livingston. The IIHF also belives that Livingston's integrity is not
in question.

Someone oughta hand them a tape of last night's game.

Earl, you and I disagreed on referees affecting the outcomes of games
a week or so ago? I'm not sure whose point was proved last night :).

Ian Merrithew - DPL Systems Engineering

Earl

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Feb 22, 2002, 1:38:38 PM2/22/02
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> Earl, you and I disagreed on referees affecting the outcomes of games
> a week or so ago? I'm not sure whose point was proved last night :).
>

Yes, I was set to bring it up then stopped myself when it became obvious
that it's still all very theoretical.
Livingston didn't determine the outcome of the game last night, but she
could have (my point), and would have if not for a brilliant performance by
Canada's women (your counterpoint).


Paul Rasmussen

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Feb 22, 2002, 4:03:08 PM2/22/02
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Which begs the question: If there are two strong women's hockey teams at
this level, why aren't there at least two decent officials? You're dead on,
Earl. The officiating was poor, and favored the US. All the more a tribute
to Canada's team.

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