Report: Gainey/Rutherford Meet, O'Neill Discussed

[Phil Parent]

FINALLY, some action to report.

It was just reported on CKAC's overnight show (goes from Midnight to 5:30AM)
by host Andre Pelletier (Not a sportscaster by any means, he must have got
it from some online report or newspaper, I'm looking into it) that Bob
Gainey met Carolina Hurricanes GM Jim Rutherford last night.

Gainey is looking for Jeff O'Neill (Well, surprise surprise...) while
Rutherford is looking for a young player that will help his team in the
future. Rutherford was quoted as saying that he was interested and listening
to offers.

I think this has been brought up a couple of times, but this time we have
proof that talks actually happened.

Plus, the Canes all physically played like they wanted to impress someone
last night :-)

Discuss.

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[Phil Parent]

Well, I've got a small RDS report saying pretty much the same as I've
reported...

http://www.rds.ca/cgi-bin/nouvelles?site=rdw&action=4&SPODIR=information&sport=#97020

As I write this, it's the 21st article from the top...

"Phil Parent" <ph...@enter-net.com> wrote in message
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[Gerry Warner]

O'Neill and Cole are the two who would interest me there the most.

It all comes down to what the Canes are looking for, though... they aren't a
team that will pick up any of our veteran types. (No Perreault, for eg).
And I don't think just draft picks or prospects would do it. Sooooo....

If it came down to it, I wouldn't part with Ryder or Komisarek. I would
think long and hard about Ribeiro, and wait until closer to the deadline to
see if there wasn't another way first.

Ideally, the Hainsey+Hossa+? combination would work instead. The Canes
really do need to build their blueline for the future, so I'm pretty sure
they'll want a young D/D-prospect in any deal.

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- Gerry
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[Roy]

i'd be willing to part with hossa...but hainsey i dont know about...you
gotta remember o'neill is just a rent a player...why give up a future top 4
d-man for one playoff run.
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[guid0]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:45:14 -0330, "Roy" <no...@roadrunner.nf.net>
wrote:

>i'd be willing to part with hossa...but hainsey i dont know about...you
>gotta remember o'neill is just a rent a player...why give up a future top 4
>d-man for one playoff run.

In what way would he be a rent-a-player? He's not a UFA at season's
end from what I can see.

G../0

[M.G.]

Forget Ribeiro, Gerry. Even if it makes all the hockey sense in the
world, the intangibles of the situation make him virtually untouchable
this season...unless, say, there were a Lecavalier coming our way.
(There's one more from the realm of fantasy...there have been times over
the past two seasons when such a thing was thinkable, but this sure
isn't one of them.)

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[Roy]

He is an UFA at seasons end
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[Gerry Warner]

He's too young to be UFA under the terms of the existing CBA. But where I
think most people get the idea that he could be UFA is from the fact that
whoever has his rights (Carolina now, hopefully us tomorrow) would have to
make a qualifying offer on his current salary of $3.somethingM. Otherwise,
he _becomes_ UFA. And speculation has it that teams might be leery about
making the qualifying offer on a guy who won't crack 20 goals or 40 pts.

That's how I understand it.

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- Gerry
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Roy <no...@roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
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[Charles Barber]

"Gerry Warner" <gerry...@rogers.com> wrote in message

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> He's too young to be UFA under the terms of the existing CBA. But where I
> think most people get the idea that he could be UFA is from the fact that
> whoever has his rights (Carolina now, hopefully us tomorrow) would have to
> make a qualifying offer on his current salary of $3.somethingM.
Otherwise,
> he _becomes_ UFA. And speculation has it that teams might be leery about
> making the qualifying offer on a guy who won't crack 20 goals or 40 pts.
>
> That's how I understand it.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> - Gerry
> 22 11 73
> 44 52
> 60

He scored 41 goals back in 2000-2001. Who were his linemates back then? He
has usually been a - player he has had a few -20 or close to it seasons.
Unless Carolina is willing to give him away I can`t see any reason to pick
him up since a prospect they could trade could easily develop into a player
who could produce the offence we would be looking from O'Neill. (Hosa).
O'Neill hasn`t scored much this season (12 goals). Montreal has been burnt
enough in the past thinking they could get a player reclaim his past, with a
change in scenery. (Audette/Czerk etc).

[Ian]

No he is correct

This is O'Neill's 10th pro season and that qualifies him to be a UFA
when his current contract expires, regardless of his age.

[Pjatapuf]

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:55:52 GMT, "Gerry Warner"
<gerry...@rogers.com> wrote:

>He's too young to be UFA under the terms of the existing CBA. But where I
>think most people get the idea that he could be UFA is from the fact that
>whoever has his rights (Carolina now, hopefully us tomorrow) would have to
>make a qualifying offer on his current salary of $3.somethingM. Otherwise,
>he _becomes_ UFA. And speculation has it that teams might be leery about
>making the qualifying offer on a guy who won't crack 20 goals or 40 pts.
>
>That's how I understand it.

He will become an UFA at 29, i.e. after the 2004-2005 season, because
he would have played 10 NHL seasons.

[Gerry Warner]

That's not how it works... guys become unrestricted FA at 31 or beyond now.
If you've played 10 seasons or more, to qualify in that rarer group of
unrestricted free agency (like Martin Lapointe did a few years back) your
current salary has to be below the league average. O'Neill's salary is
definitely not below the league average.

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- Gerry
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[El Domo]

"Roy" <no...@roadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message news:<c1t9ps$62a$1...@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net>...

> He is an UFA at seasons end

Actually, he's a restricted FA with arbitration rights, i think hes
making like 3.6 or 3.7 mil. He didnt have great numbers this year so
i dont know what hell fetch in arbitration.

[DaveHX]

don't the 10 season have to be played with the same team?

[Pjatapuf]

I don't think so, but even if that were the case, he'd qualify. He's
one of the few remaining from the Whalers' days... oh for the Adams
division again...

[larry dodds]

talk was that Gainey was going after Sean Hill, d.

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[Phil Parent]

He's got a no trade clause in his contract, and doesn't want to waive it,
forget it.

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[Yves]

No, but he has two years left.and if you know what's going on with the CBA,
well, might as well say he's on his last year.

Yves

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