Habs gone from Radio Canada - locked into 5 year dieal with RDS
Craig
exclusive for all their games, plus the first four playoff rounds, to be
broadcast on RDS. This means that the Soiree du Hockey is no more as the
French arm of CBC refused to get into a bidding war. I guess that also
leaves TQS out in the cold as well.
Raymond Chénier
wrote:
Sheila really worked fast on this one! Wow. :-(
Ian Merrithew
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> A report in today's Globe and Mail says the Habs have signed a 5 year
> exclusive for all their games, plus the first four playoff rounds, to be
> broadcast on RDS.
definitely out, but no confirmation that RDS is in. (It's at
globeandmail.com, I'd post the full link but it's about 300 characters)
Will there even *be* a Soiree du Hockey next season? Maybe they'll give us
all Senators games?
Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, those Toronto-centric b*stards at the
english CBC will now give the Canadiens a fair shake next season, since they
can no longer fall back on the, "Well you can watch all the games in French
on SRC" excuse? Is RDS on basic cable in Quebec? I can't imagine the
populace there will take this news well if it isn't. Can the
French-language rights really be worth so much money (we're only talking a
potential audience of circa 5,000,000 here) that the Canadiens can play this
sort of hardball and have it pay off?
Man, this sucks. I am just not paying $50/month for the digital cable just
to get one stinking channel. I was already down to Canadiens-games only for
most of my hockey viewing, now if the number of Habs games I can watch gets
substantially reduced, I may barely watch any of it next year.
--
Ian Merrithew - DPL Systems Engineering
(email to ian.merrithew "at" ieee.org)
newcreation
French-language network of the CBC cancels broadcasts of Canadiens games
Canadian Press
Thursday, May 30, 2002
MONTREAL (CP) - A 50-year tradition has ended with Radio-Canada's
announcement Thursday that it will no longer broadcast Montreal Canadiens
hockey games.
Daniel Asselin, sports director for the French-language network of the CBC,
said the public broadcaster could not commit to the kind of schedule sought
by the Canadiens. The National Hockey League club wanted an exclusive
broadcaster next season for all 82 regular season games as well as the
playoffs - a total of about 124 games.
Radio-Canada, which began broadcasting the games 50 years ago, could not
agree to turning over that much airtime to the team.
Hockey Night in Canada, seen on the CBC's main English-language network,
will not be affected.
The Canadiens games had been split among a couple of broadcasters in the
past. The BCE-owned Reseau des sports (RDS) has been touted as a new
French-language broadcaster for the Canadiens' matches.
Asselin said Radio-Canada was sorry to see the end of the regular Saturday
night tradition for French-speaking hockey fans.
"Everyone in Canada has been raised with La Soiree du hockey," he said. "We
have so many memories that are linked to our Saturday nights. It's a very
sad day."
© Copyright 2002 The Canadian Press
"Ian Merrithew" <optim...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Raymond Chénier.
> "Everyone in Canada has been raised with La Soiree du hockey," he said.
"We
> have so many memories that are linked to our Saturday nights. It's a very
> sad day."
>
guarantee a good product.
Frisettes
This however doesn’t specify rights to Habs’ games outside Quebec,
where RDS exposure is quite limited, and whether or not english games
would be available on another network.
HABitual
maybe?
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> And after commentator-free playoffs this year, screw you anyhow. You can't
> guarantee a good product.
listening to most of the english CBC broadcasters. And I think quite
a few of the regulars here felt the same way.
Raymond Chénier.
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perspectives.
SamSportsfan
hockey games, I don't watch Radio Canada. There are a lot better stations on
television. Broadcasting all the Habs games would increase their ratings. I
think by the end of the season, Radio Canada will regret their decision.
Frisettes
wrote:
Or perhaps there’s more to this story than is being said. Perhaps the
price was too high. Perhaps they were afraid that the random games
would disrupt regular programming. I mean I really hate the way
Futurama always gets canned because goddamn NFL football takes forever
to finish the last 2 minutes on the clock. Or perhaps SRC were
excluded from bidding because of the labour dispute.
There’s a lot we don’t know.
Marty
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Futurama was cancelled because, essentially, it takes 15-20 minutes to play
the last 2 minutes of a football game, whether the score is close or not.
Pathetic.
Thank God hockey only has one time-out per team.
Marty
Robert J Dewar
Kelly Hrudey`s of the world telling me what`s what... :)
Or his French equivalent.
Robert J Dewar
(who wonders if he`ll see ANY Mtl. games next year)
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Raymond Chénier.
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> And a few of us non-regulars feel the same way. I don`t really need the
> Kelly Hrudey`s of the world telling me what`s what... :)
> Or his French equivalent.
>
> Robert J Dewar
> (who wonders if he`ll see ANY Mtl. games next year)
>
Lecavalier, play by play quality on Radio Canada has always been first
class.
If I was subjected to Cherry and the band of clows otherwise known as hockey
people on the english network, I am sure I would feel the same way.
Raymond
(who will continue to see each and every Habs game, assuming they are worth
watching)
A.J. Bassett
>
> "Craig" <cra...@nospam.cae.com> wrote in message
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> > A report in today's Globe and Mail says the Habs have signed a 5 year
> > exclusive for all their games, plus the first four playoff rounds, to be
> > broadcast on RDS.
> That's not what it says, though it's still discouraging. SRC is apparently
> definitely out, but no confirmation that RDS is in. (It's at
> globeandmail.com, I'd post the full link but it's about 300 characters)
> Will there even *be* a Soiree du Hockey next season? Maybe they'll give us
> all Senators games?
>
> Do you suppose that maybe, just maybe, those Toronto-centric b*stards at the
> english CBC will now give the Canadiens a fair shake next season, since they
> can no longer fall back on the, "Well you can watch all the games in French
> on SRC" excuse?
Nopes. It'll be Leafs, Leafs and more Leafs to be certain. And for good
reason - the Leafs are the most followed club in the country, due in
large part to the amount of exposure they enjoy - on the mother corp,
and other broadcasters (not to mention the fact that the Leafs have
their own bloody television channel).
SRC didn't drop the Canadiens, by the way - it was the Canadiens who
told SRC to go take a leap. This is, IMO, a *HUGE* mistake by the
organization, because SRC, if anything, kept the Habs in front of a
national audience. With the Canadiens now focusing their efforts on
securing complete coverage on one network like RDS, Les Habitants will
become virtually invisible to most people living outside of Quebec.
There was, recently, another Quebec professional sporting team that took
hard-balled tactics into media coverage negotiations, and found
themselves on the outside, looking in. That team is almost certainly
playing its last season of existence.
Not to go off the deep end about this, but the decision to drop SRC may,
in the long term, set the Canadiens down a cliff of doom.
A.J.
A.J. Bassett
Second that! I haven't enjoyed post season coverage so much in years as
I did watching and listening to the beauty of silent natterings during
the first two rounds of the post-season.
Hockey, IMH & FirmO, is a sport best covered with analysis only during
the intermissions. Thanks again to the management of SRC for locking out
their employees! :)
A.J.
Ian Merrithew
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> Nopes. It'll be Leafs, Leafs and more Leafs to be certain. And for good
> reason - the Leafs are the most followed club in the country, due in
> large part to the amount of exposure they enjoy - on the mother corp,
the CBC itself really started about 10 years ago. The Leafs slowly got more
and more coverage, fanbase increased, demand increased, coverage increased,
etc etc. Now the CBC can't/won't back off because of this large Leafs
fanbase that they practically created themselves.
> There was, recently, another Quebec professional sporting team that took
> hard-balled tactics into media coverage negotiations, and found
> themselves on the outside, looking in. That team is almost certainly
> playing its last season of existence.
Brr. Why'd you have to go and bring up that parallel?
P.Barsalo
I totally agree. It is a HUGE mistake. Every year, Hockey and
professional sports in general, become less accessible to the average
fan due to high ticket prices, and now this. People are going to one
day say: "forget-it!", and that will be the end of the line for all
those spoiled, ungrateful, money grabbing, millionaires.
Would it hurt that much to keep one game a week on SRC for all of
Canada to enjoy? Granted we may get a few Habs games on CBC, maybe
more if the team does well, but it just ain't gonna be the same.
But in the meantime...Lets Go Hurricanes Lets Go. Win at least one
away, and there's a chance for a miracle, unlikely as it seems.
George O'Reilly
"P.Barsalo" wrote:diens down a cliff of doom.
> I totally agree. It is a HUGE mistake.
> Would it hurt that much to keep one game a week on SRC for all of
> Canada to enjoy? Granted we may get a few Habs games on CBC, maybe
> more if the team does well, but it just ain't gonna be the same.
This could prove to be the end for a significant portion of Habs fan base, me included.
If I don't get a reasonable number of Habs games to watch, then I'm almost certain to
simply drift away from watching NHL altogether. Sorry, "other" teams games don't
interest me at all, especially Laffs games. For sure, it won't be a case of Habs fans
jumping to another team to watch, it'll be movie rental time I'm afraid. Wish I had
confidence in the CBC English coming to our rescue. Any legal eagle types out there know
if there is any possibility that, because RDS is French, that TSN or SportsNet would be
allowed to provide coverage in Maritime Canada?
Ian Merrithew
> Any legal eagle types out there know
> if there is any possibility that, because RDS is French, that TSN or
> SportsNet would be allowed to provide coverage in Maritime Canada?
(?) years is going back to TSN this year. Apparently they'll be
getting as many as three broadcasts per week out of it, but I haven't
heard any more than that. The fate of their regional Leafs &
Canadiens rights, I don't know about.
The Maritimes were classed as "Canadiens zone" for TSN's purposes the
last couple years, though - you didn't see any of their games?
Popa Chubby
Ian Merrithew wrote:
Well if anybody's interested. You can get a Satellite dish such as Expressvu. Subscribe to their
basic package, which is around $10.00 a month, then get an AVR card. An AVR card will get you
everything free, center ice and even pay-per-view. Now, it's against the law, and Bell is trying
everyday to nuke your AVR. But, if your handy in using your computer, there are sites you can go to,
to reprogram your AVR, and get around their scrambling of your card. BTW, the AVR cards are in the
90-100 dollar canadian, range. But, that includes the reprogramer, that plugs into your computer.
Earl
Atlantic provinces. For all the things you do to us, it's little wonder we
hate you so much ;)
It would appear that Montreal has a nice regional audience now. Arguments
about
who is the so-called "Canada's Team" should end now - if there is such a
thing, it's easy to see that the Canadiens are not it.
If Sheila Copps has any interest in correcting this situation (and there is
no reason to think Tequila Sheila is capable of this) she should lobby CBC
to revisit their mandate. I think it's reasonable to think that a
national television broadcast funded by all Canadians should serve a
national audience, and regardless of what CBC execs think, supplying a
steady diet of Leaf games is not serving a national audience. Having
Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa equally share Saturday night air time, and
showing the western teams in the second part of the national double header
would serve a canadian taxpayer much better. If there's an overhelming
demand for
Leaf's games at a national level, then supply it through Leafs TV or some
other specialty cable channel.
If narrowing audience narrows revenue, this decision could accelerate the
team's downward spiral.
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Raymond Chénier.
that Canada's team bullshit. Take the extra tiny step and move into the
laffs ng group permanently will ya. If this RDS stuff is making you yap more
than usual then it's a good thing.
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George O'Reilly
Earl wrote:
> It would appear that Montreal has a nice regional audience now. Arguments
> about who is the so-called "Canada's Team" should end now - if there is such
> a
> thing, it's easy to see that the Canadiens are not it.
I hold that the Habs could still be Canada's team as long as they get their
fair share of air time. The Laff's are CBC's team, not Canada's.
> If narrowing audience narrows revenue, this decision could accelerate the
> team's downward spiral.
It's stunningly obvious to me that this RDS issue can only accelerate the
downward spiral of the Habs fan base. There is no way that anyone can convince
me that there is an upside to this deal. The Habs are amazingly stupid if they
actually think this new RDS deal will increase their profits on anything more
than a short term basis. Once the fan base snowballs further downward, they
will see the effect on their bottom line. I've been an ultra-loyal Habs fan
since I was a kid, the last year the Leafs won a cup was the first year I
started following the Habs hehehe, and I tell you now that if I don't get a
sufficient diet of Habs games, I will simply stop watching hockey. As rabid a
Habs fan as I am, there is no way I will spring the $$$ necessary for satellite
TV and I somehow doubt that the local cable company will provide RDS in Nova
Scotia. I would only be prepared to buy it anyways, if it came alone and at a
nominal fee. But, the reality is that for sure it would be packaged with
several channels I don't want. I simply can't believe I may lose my Habs this
way.
Earl
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> Ontario hates you too. It's easy to see why. And you are even falling for
> that Canada's team bullshit. Take the extra tiny step and move into the
> laffs ng group permanently will ya. If this RDS stuff is making you yap
more
> than usual then it's a good thing.
>
Tough crowd. I now MUST get RDS, if only to keep my membership on this
group valid and to irritate you beyond anything imaginable.
SamSportsfan
might provide a few more Habs games on CBC.
Richard Maloney
Organization:
Stupid Question. Will RDS be carrying ALL Montreal games? all 82?
George O'Reilly <go...@accesswave.ca> wrote:
: Earl wrote:
:> It would appear that Montreal has a nice regional audience now. Arguments
:> about who is the so-called "Canada's Team" should end now - if there is such
:> a
:> thing, it's easy to see that the Canadiens are not it.
: I hold that the Habs could still be Canada's team as long as they get their
: fair share of air time. The Laff's are CBC's team, not Canada's.
:> If narrowing audience narrows revenue, this decision could accelerate the
:> team's downward spiral.
: It's stunningly obvious to me that this RDS issue can only accelerate the
: downward spiral of the Habs fan base. There is no way that anyone can convince
: me that there is an upside to this deal. The Habs are amazingly stupid if they
: actually think this new RDS deal will increase their profits on anything more
: than a short term basis. Once the fan base snowballs further downward, they
: will see the effect on their bottom line. I've been an ultra-loyal Habs fan
: since I was a kid, the last year the Leafs won a cup was the first year I
: started following the Habs hehehe, and I tell you now that if I don't get a
: sufficient diet of Habs games, I will simply stop watching hockey. As rabid a
: Habs fan as I am, there is no way I will spring the $$$ necessary for satellite
: TV and I somehow doubt that the local cable company will provide RDS in Nova
: Scotia. I would only be prepared to buy it anyways, if it came alone and at a
: nominal fee. But, the reality is that for sure it would be packaged with
: several channels I don't want. I simply can't believe I may lose my Habs this
: way.
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Raymond Chénier
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>Organization:
>
>
>Stupid Question. Will RDS be carrying ALL Montreal games? all 82?
>
There are no stupid questions. :)
The deal stipulates all 82 games and all and any playoff games. People
are now working behind the scenes to get the CBC to buy RDS's Saturday
feed for those that live in the bush without electricity and running
water. :) Question of tradition.
Hab Fan
Richard Maloney wrote:
> Stupid Question. Will RDS be carrying ALL Montreal games? all 82?
Yes, all 82 regular season games, plus ALL playoff games. Makes it easy to find the
channel, eh?
Larry
Hab Fan
"Raymond Chénier" wrote:
>feed for those that live in the bush without electricity and >runningwater.
:) Question of tradition.
Hope they have generators or large batteries to power their TV :)