Worst Habs Ever
Jay Lanpher
William Andrew MacEwen wrote:
To pick up on a theme that was going on a few weeks ago, I'm going
to
post my all-time worst Habs. Many of them are from the same era,
but it
was sort of a dark one. Here goes:
Forwards:
Perry Turnbull: Acquired to be a sniper. Couldn't score. Spat
tobacco
juice on Forum ice. I believe he cost us a promising Greg
Pawslawski.
Ron Flockhart: Wasn't around too long, but made quite an impression
when
he played.
Mark Hunter: Missed an open net that would have knocked out the
Nords.
As punishment, was traded the next summer. Perhaps dumber than his
brother Dave.
Kjell Dahlin: Went into the toilet in record speed. Bad attempted
moustache, left NHL for an airport job in Sweden which offered more
security. Go get 'em, Tiger.
Mark Pederson: Finished career with more training camps attended
than
goals scored. Another sniper in the Turnbull style.
Normand Baron: Some Mr. Quebec bodybuilder who played one terrible
game,
perhaps in the playoffs. Edges out Scott Fletcher for the goon
position.
Defence
Kent Carlson: Always a promising prospect, never passed muster, or
even
came close.
Scott Sandelin: Like Carlson, a highly touted American who never
made
the adjustment.
Yves Racine: Absolutely embarassing. We gave up Haller, who played
a
very nasty style, for this guy who Serge had always coveted.
Perhaps
reminded Serge of above can't miss players.
Rob Ramage: Rob Damage
Petr Svoboda: Never improved, bad attitude, perhaps the least
likable
HAb in history. Hung out at the track with a real loser crowd. A
pet of
Savard's.
Goal
Jean-claude Bergeron. Nicknamed JEan Clone as he was to be the next
Patrick. Beats out Les "the next Dryden" Kuntar.
I know there have been other bad players - Alfie Turcotte, Kordic,
etc,
but these are ones who I particularly hated. Feel free to comment.
I would have to add Andre Racicot to the Goalie list. Nicknamed Andre
"Red Light" Racicot, never seemed to grasp the idea of keeping the puck
out of the net. At least he lived up tp his nickname, and kept the red
light on behind him.
William Andrew MacEwen
Steve Ranta
In article <5hh0ui$pdk$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, mac...@unixg.ubc.ca (William
Andrew MacEwen) wrote:
> To pick up on a theme that was going on a few weeks ago, I'm going to
> post my all-time worst Habs. Many of them are from the same era, but it
> was sort of a dark one. Here goes:
>
. . .
> Ron Flockhart: Wasn't around too long, but made quite an impression when
> he played.
>
> Mark Hunter: Missed an open net that would have knocked out the Nords.
> As punishment, was traded the next summer. Perhaps dumber than his
> brother Dave. . .
. . .
> Rob Ramage: Rob Damage
>
> Petr Svoboda: Never improved, bad attitude, perhaps the least likable
> HAb in history. Hung out at the track with a real loser crowd. A pet of
> Savard's.
. . .
I don't know why you choose to slam these players, but in any case they
made it to the NHL and did a creditable job.
Svoboda would certainly be one of the top Habs defencemen if he was till
on the team.
--
Steve Ranta
A.J. Bassett
William Andrew MacEwen wrote:
>
> Mark Hunter: Missed an open net that would have knocked out the Nords.
> As punishment, was traded the next summer. Perhaps dumber than his
> brother Dave.
I liked his toughness - he wasn't great, but he wasn't THAT bad :)
> Petr Svoboda: Never improved, bad attitude, perhaps the least likable
> HAb in history. Hung out at the track with a real loser crowd. A pet of
> Savard's.
>
yah..well...his personal life is his personal life, and he did make a
contribution to the '86 cup win and the great '89 season - he looked
frail and all that...but he wasn't one of the worst in Habs history -
recent or otherwise...
> Goal
>
> Jean-claude Bergeron. Nicknamed JEan Clone as he was to be the next
> Patrick. Beats out Les "the next Dryden" Kuntar.
also "Red-Light" Racicot (sp?)...he seemed particularly brutal...
A.J.
Steven Jensen
Steve Ranta (sra...@macwest.org) wrote:
> In article <5hh0ui$pdk$1...@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, mac...@unixg.ubc.ca (William
> Andrew MacEwen) wrote:
> > To pick up on a theme that was going on a few weeks ago, I'm going to
> > post my all-time worst Habs. Many of them are from the same era, but it
> > was sort of a dark one. Here goes:
> >
What about Doug Wickenheiser. He never amounted too much either. Let's
not forget about him (or perhaps we should).
> . . .
> > Ron Flockhart: Wasn't around too long, but made quite an impression when
> > he played.
> >
> > Mark Hunter: Missed an open net that would have knocked out the Nords.
> > As punishment, was traded the next summer. Perhaps dumber than his
> > brother Dave. . .
> . . .
> > Rob Ramage: Rob Damage
> >
> > Petr Svoboda: Never improved, bad attitude, perhaps the least likable
> > HAb in history. Hung out at the track with a real loser crowd. A pet of
> > Savard's.
Andrew Stewart
> William Andrew MacEwen wrote:
>
>> Petr Svoboda: Never improved, bad attitude, perhaps the least likable
>> HAb in history. Hung out at the track with a real loser crowd. A pet of
>> Savard's.
There are several players on the club right now who aren't
nearly as good as Svoboda. I don't recall a problem with
his attitude, and two of his best buddies on the club were
Corson and Keane. If he was such a pet of savard's, why did
he trade him, and I happen to hang out at the track myself
with a real nice bunch of people. The thing I liked best
about Petr is that despite being a slight fellow, he would
never shy from a check in the corners. This has cost him quite
a few weeks on the injury list.
--
Andrew Stewart
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Ianstacy
How can any list of horrible players to "play" for the Montreal Canadiens
be complete without mentioning Perry Turnbull? This "guy" (and I use that
word in its most broad sense) was one of the biggest stiffs to play for
the team. Murray Baron will go down as another tremendous stiff to put on
the Bleu, Blanche et Rouge.
Steven Jensen
What about Doug Wickenheiser. He worked hard to be on this list. Let's
not forget his contribution to the Habs.
Nam Pham
Yeah! Who can forget Wickenheiser - Dennis Savard! Irv Grunman thought
Dennis was too small and inconsistent so he went with Wickenheiser, a
big fat guy who consistently did nothing! Later Serge Savard traded
a young talented Chelios to get Denis to undo the wrong diong and then
left Denis unprotected to be reclaimed by the Hawks. So the Habs picked
up Wickenheiser and paid with Denis Savard and Chris Chelios! Where is
Doug Wickenheiser now? The only Wickenheiser I hear nowaday is the name
of his sister who play for Canadian women team. Denis is still skating
and whirling in the NHL with the Hawks. Not bad for a small French Canadian
guy, eh?
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Dr. Michael J. Layton
In article <5ig9ed$i...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, sje...@chat.carleton.ca
(Steven Jensen) wrote:
--> Ianstacy (ians...@aol.com) wrote:
--> > How can any list of horrible players to "play" for the Montreal Canadiens
--> > be complete without mentioning Perry Turnbull? This "guy" (and I use that
--> > word in its most broad sense) was one of the biggest stiffs to play for
--> > the team. Murray Baron will go down as another tremendous stiff to put on
--> > the Bleu, Blanche et Rouge.
-->
-->
--> What about Doug Wickenheiser. He worked hard to be on this list. Let's
--> not forget his contribution to the Habs.
They would have been better off with his cousin Hayley....In fairness to
Doug, however, didn't he have some horrible crash into the net that
wrecked his knee?
Mike
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Steven Butterworth
In article <5ij0ts$k...@news.istar.ca>, Dr. Michael J. Layton wrote:
>In article <5ig9ed$i...@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca>, sje...@chat.carleton.ca
>(Steven Jensen) wrote:
>--> What about Doug Wickenheiser. He worked hard to be on this list. Let's
>--> not forget his contribution to the Habs.
>
>They would have been better off with his cousin Hayley....In fairness to
>Doug, however, didn't he have some horrible crash into the net that
>wrecked his knee?
>
>Mike
As a follower of the 76-79 squads I remember the 1980 draft pick
fairly well, including the disappointment that Denis Savard was not
grabbed. Doug Wickenheiser was indeed a major disappointment, but
without some extra lousy luck he would have gone on to have a solid
career of at least 7 or 8 seasons as a lesser Guy Carbonneau.
I remember that he was actually developing into quite a fine defensive
forward with enough residual scoring skills to be a nontrivial threat
offensively. He would have worked fine on a line constructed in the
spirit of Carbonneau, McPhee, and Skrudland of the mid-to-late 80s.
It is unfortunate both for Doug and for the early 80s squads that he
had injury problems. I no longer remember the precise nature of the
BIG injury, but I do remember my disappointment, more for him than the
squad as a whole. (didn't he get traded to St. Louis and put in another
year or two as a defensive role player?)
Give some of these guys a break. Not every 1st round pick is going to
turn into a star. A few have reached the peak of their skills. A few
get torn apart by injuries. I suspect that great numbers who could
contribute successfully in lesser roles are crushed by expectations
and pressure from team, fans, and media.
Yeah, I remember the disappointments too. Let's try a little less
nastiness of spirit though. We frequently seem to react as though
failure to achieve stardom is indicative of some underlying failure of
moral fibre. Doug Wickenheiser was a good player who looked like he
might become a great player. He didn't. Someone else did.
Tough noogies.
Go Habs, Go Mario (to the broadcasting booth),
Steve
Mark Tempel
> Murray Baron will go down as another tremendous stiff to put on
> the Bleu, Blanche et Rouge.
>
He's still not the worst Baron to put on the Habs uniform. That
distinction has to go to Normand Baron, who scored on his first NHL shift
and then nada. A buddy of mine found him working for St. Mary's hospital
shortly after his Habs career ran aground. At least Murray is still
playing.
MT