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Alan S. Wales

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May 6, 2003, 11:31:20 AM5/6/03
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I admit I've been away from hockey fandom since the North Stars left for Dallas
and came back a couple months ago, but have they legalized hand passes during
my hiatus? Because I saw two blatant examples last night and one of them was
right in front of the referee.

--
"When you argue with a fool be sure he is not similarly occupied."

Minniman

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May 6, 2003, 12:10:38 PM5/6/03
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"Alan S. Wales" wrote:

> I admit I've been away from hockey fandom since the
> North Stars left for Dallas and came back a couple
> months ago, but have they legalized hand passes during
> my hiatus? Because I saw two blatant examples last night
> and one of them was right in front of the referee.


I noticed that too and wondered the same thing. That shuffledboard pass
behind the Wild goal was quite obvious.

Minniman


Alan S. Wales

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May 6, 2003, 12:49:06 PM5/6/03
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>"Minniman" Minn...@charter.net

That was the most flagrant. There was also one along the near boards where a
Canuck defensemen stopped a high clearing pass with his hand and "dropped" the
puck by redirecting it back into the Wild zone where it was picked up by
another Canuck player.

Dave Jackson

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May 6, 2003, 12:53:21 PM5/6/03
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In article <vbfntr8...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Minniman" <Minn...@charter.net> wrote:

Yep, I saw that one as well. I was wondering why they didn't call it.

Dave in Minnesota

Nitram

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May 6, 2003, 3:43:13 PM5/6/03
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You can pass the puck with your hand in your own defensive zone.

Although it sounds silly that's the rule.


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bryan knott

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May 6, 2003, 4:25:49 PM5/6/03
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> "Minniman" <Minn...@charter.net> wrote:
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> >
> >
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> Yep, I saw that one as well. I was wondering why they didn't call it.
>
> Dave in Minnesota
>


Me thins it was because it was in Vancouver (sp). The home team ALWAYS
gets away with illegal activity.


The State of Hockey

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May 6, 2003, 4:36:14 PM5/6/03
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In your zone you can hand pass

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Alan S. Wales

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May 6, 2003, 4:52:25 PM5/6/03
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>"The State of Hockey" stateo...@hotmail.com

>In your zone you can hand pass

Yep. Here it is:

Rule 59 (e)

(e) A player shall be permitted to stop or "bat" a puck in the air with his
open hand, or push it along the ice with his hand, and the play shall not be
stopped unless, in the opinion of the Referee, he has deliberately directed the
puck to a teammate in any zone other than the defensive zone, in which case the
play shall be stopped and the puck faced-off at the spot where the offense
occurred. Play will not be stopped for any hand pass by players in their own
defensive zone.

OK, there's the rule. Is this a change from my years as a fan, up to 1992?

Nitram

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May 6, 2003, 5:08:21 PM5/6/03
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Yes I believe so. At one time you couldn't direct the puck to a teammate
anywhere on the ice.

I'm not sure when they changed the rule


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Turkey Lurkey

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May 6, 2003, 7:51:39 PM5/6/03
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and you call yourselves real hockey fans! I'd be embarrassed. For
those of you who like the crap Minnesota calls hockey and what the
rest of the NHL calls duller than lawn bowling (effective, but MAN is
it lame to watch) the hand pass is fine as long as it is in the
defensive zone.

Voronore

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May 6, 2003, 9:21:23 PM5/6/03
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Mid-90s, if I remember correctly.

Voronore

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May 6, 2003, 9:21:23 PM5/6/03
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Small, but VERY significant, point to make here, Alan. Yes, the North Stars
left for Dallas. But they didn't come back "a couple months ago". The Wild
are a completely new expansion franchise, having no relation to the
franchise still in Texas. And they "came back" three full seasons ago.

Malcolm

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May 6, 2003, 9:47:45 PM5/6/03
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"Voronore" <voro...@misthaven.com> wrote in message
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> Small, but VERY significant, point to make here, Alan. Yes, the North
Stars
> left for Dallas. But they didn't come back "a couple months ago". The
Wild
> are a completely new expansion franchise, having no relation to the
> franchise still in Texas. And they "came back" three full seasons ago.

Maybe he means they came back to play the Wild.

Alan S. Wales

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May 6, 2003, 10:27:59 PM5/6/03
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>"Voronore" voro...@misthaven.com

>>"Nitram" nit...@telus.net

>>Yes I believe so. At one time you couldn't direct the puck to a >>teammate
anywhere on the ice.

>>I'm not sure when they changed the rule

>Mid-90s, if I remember correctly.

Thanks. I sure don't remember it being legal when I was an avid fan.

Alan S. Wales

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May 6, 2003, 10:33:57 PM5/6/03
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>"Voronore" voro...@misthaven.com

>>"Alan S. Wales" <powr...@aol.compost> wrote:

>> I admit I've been away from hockey fandom since the North Stars left for
>Dallas
>> and came back a couple months ago, but have they legalized hand passes
>during
>> my hiatus? Because I saw two blatant examples last night and one of them
>was
>> right in front of the referee.

>Small, but VERY significant, point to make here, Alan. Yes, the North Stars
>left for Dallas. But they didn't come back "a couple months ago". The Wild
>are a completely new expansion franchise, having no relation to the
>franchise still in Texas. And they "came back" three full seasons ago.

Bad prose alert! Subject and verb do not agree!

I was the one that returned to hockey, not the Stars returning to Minnesota. I
finally gave up my animosity towards NHL hockey a couple of months ago and
hopped on the Wild bandwagon. There was a lot more room on the wagon last
February, BTW.

I didn't know that hand passes in the defensive zone were legal, since it had
been 10 years since I'd followed hockey, and it was illegal back then.

Joey

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May 6, 2003, 11:12:12 PM5/6/03
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> Bad prose alert! Subject and verb do not agree!
>
> I was the one that returned to hockey, not the Stars returning to
Minnesota. I
> finally gave up my animosity towards NHL hockey a couple of months ago and
> hopped on the Wild bandwagon. There was a lot more room on the wagon last
> February, BTW.

Oh, I thought you used "wild" in a sentence as both the verb and subject.
"Did you see that wild Wild game last night?"


Voronore

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May 7, 2003, 1:17:36 AM5/7/03
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Oh! Okay, now I'm reading that sentence as you intended. Sorry about
that...


Voronore

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May 7, 2003, 1:17:37 AM5/7/03
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The hand-pass is legal as long as it both originates and is received in the
Defensive Zone.

Also, remember that...
- It's a penalty to play with a broken stick, EXCEPT for a goaltender.
They can play with a broken stick.
- A play is only Offsides if the ATTACKING PLAYER moves the puck into
the offensive zone. If a defender sends it back, then no player is
considered offsides.

Along with the hand-pass, those are a couple of things that I had to correct
people in my section on during this last season. Surprisingly, a lot of
people are surprised that an Icing call needs to be touched-up. But that's
probably a good sign -- shows that they've been watching College Hockey...


The State of Hockey

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May 7, 2003, 7:28:53 AM5/7/03
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Its ok Alan, We are just happy to have you back :-)

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Minniman

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May 7, 2003, 9:23:03 PM5/7/03
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"Turkey Lurkey" wrote:

> ... the hand pass is fine as long as it is
> in the defensive zone.

Is a Canuck's hand pass behind the Wild's goal line considered the
defensive zone?


Minniman


Joey

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May 7, 2003, 9:59:59 PM5/7/03
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Are you making stuff up now?
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The State of Hockey

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May 8, 2003, 7:17:11 AM5/8/03
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no
that should be whistled down

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Alan S. Wales

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May 8, 2003, 11:10:08 AM5/8/03
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> "Minniman" Minn...@charter.net

>>"Turkey Lurkey" wrote:

Minniman, I think that blatant hand pass was sent behind the Canucks goal by a
Canucks defenseman.

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