flames suck, Oilers rule Alberta!
George Black
Once again the Edmonton Oilers assert their dominance in Alberta with a
5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
the best team in Alberta is now?
The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
RULE!
The Flame
In article <32FA0E...@cappho.ca>, gbl...@cappho.ca says...
cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
gregory leighton
George Black (gbl...@cappho.ca) wrote:
> Once again the Edmonton Oilers assert their dominance in Alberta with a
> 5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
> The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
> After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
> the best team in Alberta is now?
> The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
> has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
> suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
> So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> RULE!
BITE ME DOUGHBOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Robin Thompson
- This is for the scmhuck who sent the letter about Calgary sucking and Edmonton kicking their ass. You aren't the brightest lightbulb in the package are you? Did you happen to notice the shots on goal...yeah we lost...but we outshot them 33-19. Shit happens loser...get a life...and get a team!
Flames Hater
Looking at the standings today it looks like Edmonton is 13 points ahead
of the Flames. So when April comes and the Oilers are playing for Lord
Stanley's Mug and the Flames are on the golf course you can look back
fondly on February 5, the game where you outshot the Oilers.
Personally I think Edmonton will let you have that one and laugh all the
way home with the 2 points. Which would you rather have? Your team
must be pretty brutal when your only defense is "sure they won, but we
outshot 'em!" Hahahahahaha! Yes, I am laughing at you!
Flames Hater.
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <5ddgko$1nl$2...@orb.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The Flame) wrote:
>In article <32FA0E...@cappho.ca>, gbl...@cappho.ca says...
>>
>>5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
>>
>>The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
>>
>>After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
>>the best team in Alberta is now?
>>
>>The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
>>has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
>>suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
>>
>>So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
>>RULE!
>cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
>the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
>hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
>
> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
>few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
>course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
Count the Stanley Cup rings pal...
The Flame
In article <5deg5d$r...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
afford to be average for another 10 years or so.
>
Kevin Murphy
gregory leighton wrote:
>
> George Black (gbl...@cappho.ca) wrote:
> > Once again the Edmonton Oilers assert their dominance in Alberta with a
> > 5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
>
> > The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
>
> > After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
> > the best team in Alberta is now?
>
> > The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
> > has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
> > suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
>
> > So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> > RULE!
>
Really? Beat the Oilers on TSN (now there's a thought, the Oilers on
TSN) next Thursday and we'll talk (he, he, he)
jason T
>>RULE!
> Where were you last 3 years when the Flames sent the Oil home
>cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
>the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
>hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
>
> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
>few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
>course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
>
If you want to live in the past. Where were the Flames when the Oilers won
5 Stanley cups?
Dan Brabbins
Robin Thompson <thom...@ebtech.net> wrote in article
<32FAA0...@ebtech.net>...
> This is for the scmhuck who sent the letter about Calgary sucking and
> Edmonton kicking their ass. You aren't the brightest lightbulb in the
> package are you? Did you happen to notice the shots on goal...yeah we
> lost...but we outshot them 33-19. Shit happens loser...get a life...and
> get a team!
Well if Edmonton needs to get a team, I shudder to think at what Calgary
must need. Other than safety mats for the bandwagon. Edmonton kicked butt
for four reasons, 1) they can score goals 2) they have the best goalie in
the league, not like that cry-baby Kidd, 3) they can play better defense
than the Calgary Shames and 4) they're a whole lot more talented than all
the crap the Flames can put together. So the finally stat tells all, shots
don't matter dick, it's the final score on the scoreboard and the Flames
LOST, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER! The Flames are what? Dead last in the western
conference? Boo hoo, Edmonton's getting dizzy looking down at the Flames
in the standings. Get yer act together boys!
Dan Brabbins
The Flame <jmcc...@direct.ca> wrote in article
<5ddgko$1nl$2...@orb.direct.ca>...
> Where were you last 3 years when the Flames sent the Oil home
> cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
> the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
> hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
>
> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
> few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
> course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
Well gosh golly gee, where were you for the last 20 years period? Lessee
here, how many cups have the Flames won? One. How many times have they
bombed in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons? Too many times to
count. Take the good times with the bad times, boy. History is more than
a few years when talking about the Flames and Oilers. History is 5 Stanley
Cups, 6 Stanley Cup Finals, 3 Conference Finals, numerous first place
finishes, compared to what from the Flames? 1 Stanley Cup, 2 finals,
numerous bombouts in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons.
Basically I'm asking you this, who's won more Stanley Cups? The Flames or
the Oilers?
Brian Sculac
> >5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
> >
> >The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
> >
> >After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
> >the best team in Alberta is now?
> >
> >The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
> >has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
> >suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
> >
> >So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> >RULE!
> cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
> the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
> hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
>
> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
> few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
> course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
Oilers-5 Cups Flames-1 Cup Nuff said.
Brian
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <5deokk$a9c$1...@aphex.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The Flame) wrote:
>In article <5deg5d$r...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
>>
>>In article <5ddgko$1nl$2...@orb.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The Flame)
>>
> You have a point. The OIlers were so good in the 80's, they can
>afford to be average for another 10 years or so.
>>
>
Although it's alot better than the Flames who are going nowhere but down I
guess.
The Flame
In article <32FBED...@netcom.ca>, bsc...@netcom.ca says...
>Brian
Then I guess the battle of Alberta is over, and winning now
doesn't matter? Or maybe it only counts if Edmonton wins.
The Flame
In article <01bc153f$80ca5d40$1007...@Calvary.HUB.ofthe.NET>,
oile...@ice.net says...
>> cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford
from
>> the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed
the
>
>> hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the
Oil?
>>
>> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
>> few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series!
Of
>> course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
>
Lessee
>here, how many cups have the Flames won? One. How many times have they
>bombed in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons? Too many times
to
>count. Take the good times with the bad times, boy. History is more
than
>a few years when talking about the Flames and Oilers. History is 5
Stanley
>Cups, 6 Stanley Cup Finals, 3 Conference Finals, numerous first place
>finishes, compared to what from the Flames? 1 Stanley Cup, 2 finals,
>numerous bombouts in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons.
>Basically I'm asking you this, who's won more Stanley Cups? The Flames
or
>the Oilers?
If you can't do the math by yourself....say, is that you Bonvie?
The Flame
In article <5dgsce$l...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
>
>In article <5deokk$a9c$1...@aphex.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The
Flame) wrote:
>>In article <5deg5d$r...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com
says...
>>>
>>>In article <5ddgko$1nl$2...@orb.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The
Flame)
>>>>In article <32FA0E...@cappho.ca>, gbl...@cappho.ca says...
>>>>>
>>>>>Once again the Edmonton Oilers assert their dominance in Alberta
with
>>a
>>>>>5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
>>>>>
>>>>>After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to
>>who
>>>>>the best team in Alberta is now?
>>>>>
>>>>>The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and
calgary
>>>>>has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets
I
>>>>>suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
>>>>>
>>>>>So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
>>>>>RULE!
>>>>cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford
>>from
>>>>the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed
>>the
>>>>hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the
>>Oil?
>>>>
>>>> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down
for
>>a
>>>>few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series!
Of
>>>>course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo
Pickers...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You have a point. The OIlers were so good in the 80's, they can
>>afford to be average for another 10 years or so.
>>>
>>
>
>Although it's alot better than the Flames who are going nowhere but down
I
>guess.
>
Yes...teams like Edmonton and Calgary, with loads of young
talent, are bound to go nowhere.
Shawn S. Mullin
Robin Thompson wrote:
>
> This is for the scmhuck who sent the letter about Calgary sucking and
> Edmonton kicking their ass. You aren't the brightest lightbulb in the
> package are you? Did you happen to notice the shots on goal...yeah we
> lost...but we outshot them 33-19. Shit happens loser...get a
> life...and get a team!
YEah, I mean out shoot us once in all the games this year and the Oilers
beat you each time but hell that makes you, who aren't even in the top
eight in the conference, better than the fourth place Oilers, because
you had more shots in one of the games you lost this year.
We always kick the Flames asses, so there were a couple bad years in the
rebuilding time but we're now returning to form and moving to the top of
the NHL while the Flames are stuck either missing the playoffs or losing
in the first round every year forever.
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Go Oilers!
Our Lady Peace's Clumsy at #1 on the Canadian charts!
Brian Sculac
> >>>suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
> >>>
> >>>So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> >>>RULE!
> >> Where were you last 3 years when the Flames sent the Oil home
> >>cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford
> from
> >>the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed
> the
> >>hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the
> Oil?
> >>
> >> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for
> a
> >>few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
> >>course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Count the Stanley Cup rings pal...
> >
> You have a point. The OIlers were so good in the 80's, they can
> afford to be average for another 10 years or so.
> >
And the Flames have been "average" since they've been in the NHL. We'll
be winning more cups while you losers are rebuilding.
Brian
Dan Brabbins
jason T <rj...@pop.srv.ualberta.ca> wrote in article
<5dg2tg$13...@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>...
> If you want to live in the past. Where were the Flames when the Oilers
won
> 5 Stanley cups?
Teaching Tiger Woods how to golf? :o)
Billy Schmidt
The Flame wrote:
>
> In article <32FA0E...@cappho.ca>, gbl...@cappho.ca says...
> >
> >Once again the Edmonton Oilers assert their dominance in Alberta with a
> >5-2 thrashing of the calgary flames.
> >
> >The Battle of Alberta is undeniably a rout.
> >
> >After knocking them off 10-1, etc., etc., is there any doubts as to who
> >the best team in Alberta is now?
> >
> >The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
> >has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets I
> >
> >So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> >RULE!
> Where were you last 3 years when the Flames sent the Oil home
> cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford from
> the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed the
> hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the Oil?
>
> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for a
> few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series! Of
> course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
What? Nashville isn't going to get an expansio team now? What, with
the new building, the legions of fans that supposedly exist...
Adrean & Kelly Wolvers
> Edmonton kicking their ass. You aren't the brightest lightbulb in the
> package are you? Did you happen to notice the shots on goal...yeah we
> lost...but we outshot them 33-19. Shit happens loser...get a life...and
> get a team!
>
shots.
This tells me two things-
Calgary's goaltending sucks.
Edmonton got the two points.
Good luck outshooting your opponents. We'll keep on getting the points.
Adrean
Dan Morris
On 7 Feb 1997, Dan Brabbins wrote:
> 2) they have the best goalie in the league, not like that cry-baby Kidd
I'd rather have any of 'Beezer or Richter or Roy or (maybe) Hextall than
Joseph any day. Joseph is not anywhere close to the best goalie in the
league (altho he is better than any goalie the Flames have).
Dan
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The Flame
In article <01bc16b7$066f1260$b245...@mycomputer.cadvision.com>,
wolv...@cadvision.com says...
>Let's see, Edmonton got 5 goals on 19 shots, Calgary got 2 goals on 33
>shots.
>This tells me two things-
>
> Calgary's goaltending sucks.
> Edmonton got the two points.
>
What you said tells ME two things-
You know nothing about goaltending.
You can read the game summary in the newspaper (or maybe had it
read to you)
Go Flames
>
>Adrean
Flames Hater
I can't believe someone is stupid enough to defend the Flames
goaltending. It is so obvious that Trevor Kidd is one of the worst
goalies in the entire NHL. He belongs on the farm. The fact remains
that in the battle of Alberta Edmonton outshines Calgary in every aspect
of the game. ESPECIALLY in goal. Next time time think before you type,
that way maybe you can hide your ignorance.
Down with the Flames.
Flame Hater.
Marc Ciampa
> Joseph is not anywhere close to the best goalie in the
Keep in mind, Curtis Joseph is 29, Trevor Kidd is 24. When Joseph was
24, he wasn't even a starter in the league and his numbers weren't even
as good as Kidd's are now on a more talented St. Louis team. Trevor
Kidd is a big goalie who is unfortunately getting blamed for much of the
Flames' woes right now. Sure he hasn't been as good this season as he
was in 94-95 but neither has the team. I think once the Flames start to
become a Cup-challenging team again, Trevor Kidd will emerge as one of
the top goaltenders in the league. Right now he's standing on his head
for us most nights but unfortunately the highlight reel picks up on his
rare miscues such as his pass up the middle to Jason Arnott. Let's get
off Kidd and Fleury's back and hope that the Flames as a team can pick
it up from now until the end of the season and make it into the playoffs
(maybe into 6th place to set up another classic Flames-Oilers showdown).
Sincerely,
Marc Ciampa
Calgary Flames Web Page Maintainer
http://www.lexicom.ab.ca/~flames
Brian Sculac
> >> >the best team in Alberta is now?
> >> >
> >> >The answer, of course, is a laughing no. Edmonton rules, and calgary
> >> >has become a pee wee team. If any calgary fans want playoff tickets
> I
> >> >suggest they consult the Edmonton Oilers box office right away!
> >> >
> >> >So in conlusion, the flaming faggots suck, while the EDMONTON OILERS
> >> >RULE!
> >> Where were you last 3 years when the Flames sent the Oil home
> >> cryin almost every game? Where were you when we chased Bill Ranford
> from
> >> the goal on opening night? Where were you when Sandy McCarthy crushed
> the
> >> hearts of Edmonton fans, scoring a career-high 3 points against the
> Oil?
> >>
> >> Just think Oiler fans...if the Flames continue to lie down for
> a
> >> few more years, Edmonton might take the lead in the all-time series!
> Of
> >> course, they'll probably be doing it as the Nashville Banjo Pickers...
> >
> >Brian
>
> Then I guess the battle of Alberta is over, and winning now
> doesn't matter? Or maybe it only counts if Edmonton wins.
If you hate the Oilers so much, why are you on this newsgroup? I
wouldn't be caught dead on the Flames newsgroup.
Brian
Wes K
Robin Thompson <thom...@ebtech.net> wrote in article
<32FAA0...@ebtech.net>...
> This is for the scmhuck who sent the letter about Calgary sucking and
> Edmonton kicking their ass. You aren't the brightest lightbulb in the
> package are you? Did you happen to notice the shots on goal...yeah we
> lost...but we outshot them 33-19. Shit happens loser...get a life...and
> get a team!
>
Four words you will never here a Flame say???????????
I'm going to Disneyland
Wes K
matt robinson
The Flame wrote:
>
> In article <01bc16b7$066f1260$b245...@mycomputer.cadvision.com>,
> wolv...@cadvision.com says...
> >
> >shots.
> >This tells me two things-
> >
> > Calgary's goaltending sucks.
> > Edmonton got the two points.
> >
> What you said tells ME two things-
>
> You know nothing about goaltending.
> You can read the game summary in the newspaper (or maybe had it
> read to you)
>
> Go Flames
> >
5 goals on 19 shots isn't great goaltending... whereas 2 goals on 33 is
better... the bottom line isn't always the goals against or even save
percentage, but wins... and that's what the oilers and cujo got.. in the
end, it would be tough to say that kidd wasn't outplayed by joseph in
that particular game... plus... kidd isn't having a great year anyway...
at this point, i might add, all the comparisons to roy and beezer are
silly- they both play for teams that play a much better brand of team
defence than our oilers... cujo is playing now much like fur did in the
cup runs... great timely stops, with a bit of flash...
go oilers... back in the playoffs, hopefully.
The Flame
In article <32FE85...@lastplace.com>, fla...@lastplace.com says...
>
>I can't believe someone is stupid enough to defend the Flames
>goaltending. It is so obvious that Trevor Kidd is one of the worst
>goalies in the entire NHL. He belongs on the farm. The fact remains
>that in the battle of Alberta Edmonton outshines Calgary in every aspect
>of the game. ESPECIALLY in goal. Next time time think before you type,
>that way maybe you can hide your ignorance.
>
>Down with the Flames.
>
>Flame Hater.
This is a close to a response to your lame posts as you're ever
gonna get.
The Flame
In article <5dm8lm$k...@news.istar.ca>, ma...@istar.ca says...
>
>The Flame wrote:
>>
>> In article <01bc16b7$066f1260$b245...@mycomputer.cadvision.com>,
>> wolv...@cadvision.com says...
>> >
>> >Robin Thompson <thom...@ebtech.net> wrote in article
>>
>> >Let's see, Edmonton got 5 goals on 19 shots, Calgary got 2 goals on
33
>> >shots.
>> >This tells me two things-
>> >
>> > Calgary's goaltending sucks.
>> > Edmonton got the two points.
>> >
>> What you said tells ME two things-
>>
>> You know nothing about goaltending.
>> You can read the game summary in the newspaper (or maybe had
it
>> read to you)
>>
>> Go Flames
>> >
>> >Adrean
>5 goals on 19 shots isn't great goaltending...
by statistics alone. I'm not saying Kidder had a great game, but
assessing a guy's play by X number of goals on X number of shots isn't
very fair.
The Flame
In article <32FEB4...@netcom.ca>, bsc...@netcom.ca says...
>> Then I guess the battle of Alberta is over, and winning now
>> doesn't matter? Or maybe it only counts if Edmonton wins.
>
>If you hate the Oilers so much, why are you on this newsgroup? I
>wouldn't be caught dead on the Flames newsgroup.
>
>Brian
If you look at what newsgroups this is going to, you'll see the
answer to your question (you might want to take a look at
news.newusers.questions)
Romeo
On 7 Feb 1997, Dan Brabbins wrote:
>
> Well gosh golly gee, where were you for the last 20 years period? Lessee
> here, how many cups have the Flames won? One. How many times have they
> bombed in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons? Too many times to
> count. Take the good times with the bad times, boy. History is more than
> a few years when talking about the Flames and Oilers. History is 5 Stanley
> Cups, 6 Stanley Cup Finals, 3 Conference Finals, numerous first place
> finishes, compared to what from the Flames? 1 Stanley Cup, 2 finals,
> numerous bombouts in the playoffs after excellent regular seasons.
> Basically I'm asking you this, who's won more Stanley Cups? The Flames or
> the Oilers?
And why they did it then but won't do it again? Because they don't have
Gretzky and Messier. Let me put it this way, it was the Oilers who won
the team (in a collective sense). It was GRETZKY, MESSIER (etc.). No
team in that one. However, when the Flames won the cup, it was easy to
see that no-one player deserved it, the whole team did. THE FLAMES won
the cup that year. Granted, the FLAMES also bombed a few times and what
not. But, if you compare two teams, I think the most reliable stat would
be comparing then in their series' with each other. Otherwise you bring
in outside variables, you idiot. When you compare two sports cars, you
don't compare them to sedans. Do you? Jees, if one team consistently
beats another, then the first team is better. End of story.
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Romeo
On 8 Feb 1997, Shawn S. Mullin wrote:
>
> We always kick the Flames asses, so there were a couple bad years in the
> rebuilding time but we're now returning to form and moving to the top of
> the NHL while the Flames are stuck either missing the playoffs or losing
> in the first round every year forever.
HELLO SHITHEAD. Read that last sentance again, gee, that sounds like
Calgary right now! Um, loss of gretzky, messier, fuhr, Lowe, Kurri,
Tikkanen. Loss of Mullen, MacDonald, MacInnis, Vernon, Loob, Gilmour.
Gee, no similarity at all. Nope, Flames can't be doing the same thing
(ie. rebuilding time). No way possible. Fuck you Edmonton fans are dumb.
Romeo
On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Brian Sculac wrote:
>
> And the Flames have been "average" since they've been in the NHL. We'll
> be winning more cups while you losers are rebuilding.
> Brian
>
Winning cups? Edmonton? Not bloody likely. Flames average since they
were in the NHL? What, were you dumb and blind from 86-91?
Dan Brabbins
Romeo <rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.A41.3.94.970210...@acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
> And why they did it then but won't do it again? Because they don't have
> Gretzky and Messier. Let me put it this way, it was the Oilers who won
> the team (in a collective sense). It was GRETZKY, MESSIER (etc.). No
> team in that one. However, when the Flames won the cup, it was easy to
> see that no-one player deserved it, the whole team did. THE FLAMES won
> the cup that year. Granted, the FLAMES also bombed a few times and what
> not. But, if you compare two teams, I think the most reliable stat would
> be comparing then in their series' with each other. Otherwise you bring
> in outside variables, you idiot. When you compare two sports cars, you
> don't compare them to sedans. Do you? Jees, if one team consistently
> beats another, then the first team is better. End of story.
It always absolutely amazes me how Calgary fans always ignore the overall
picture, it don't matter dick all what the Flames have done against the
Oilers. The ultimate stat comes from the playoffs and the number of
Stanley Cups won. In the playoffs where it ultimately counts, the Oilers
have an overwhelming edge in victories over the Flames not to mention 5
Stanley Cups in a 18 year history compared to a meager 1 Stanley Cup for
the Bomb-outs in a 26 or 27 year history. Look at Detroit, they've gotten
all those President's Trophies the last few years, but have they won the
Stanley Cup? Nope. So, if you want to compare the two teams against one
another in their series stats, you can't use the regular season, the
regular season doesn't win the Stanley Cup as the Red Wings are perfect
examples of that. The playoffs win the Stanley Cup, and the Flames suck
the big enchilada in the playoffs against the Oilers. So maybe review your
little fantasy there a bit yourself first and consider your own closing
statement. Jeez, if one team consistenlty beats the other team in the
playoffs and wins more Stanley Cups as a result then the team that won teh
Stanley Cups has been the better team. Plain and simple. All five Stanley
Cup victories for the Oilers went through Calgary at some point in the
playoffs and all five times they beat Calgary or the Flames were too sucky
to get past the first round. But hey, live in your fantasy world, chum.
Ask anyone else who's NOT a Flames fan or an Oilers fan and isn't a buddy
of yours and they'll agree that over history, the Oilers are the better
team by far. Why? Just look at allllll the silverware. End of story.
George Coles
Lets Look at the list of players
Gretzky Mullen
Messier MacDonald
Fuhr Vernon
Lowe MacInnis
Kurri Gilmour
Tikkanen Loob
The Oilers talent was FAR SUPERIOR to the Flames talent listed above.
It is alot harder to rebuild when you lose players of the Oilers
caliber. Lets face it the Oilers were more talented than the Flames
until most of the players moved on. The Flames did win 1 Cup. The
Oilers lost Gretzky and still won a cup in '90 and made it to the
conference final the next 2 years without others (Messier and Kurri).
Much better than first round fade aways! The Oilers owner was unwilling
to pay for good players, making the rebuilding more difficult.
>>Fuck you Edmonton fans are dumb.>>
Do you kiss your Mommy with that mouth?
Shawn S. Mullin
Romeo wrote:
>
> On 8 Feb 1997, Shawn S. Mullin wrote:
>
> >
> > We always kick the Flames asses, so there were a couple bad years in the
> > rebuilding time but we're now returning to form and moving to the top of
> > the NHL while the Flames are stuck either missing the playoffs or losing
> > in the first round every year forever.
>
> HELLO SHITHEAD. Read that last sentance again, gee, that sounds like
> Calgary right now! Um, loss of gretzky, messier, fuhr, Lowe, Kurri,
> Tikkanen. Loss of Mullen, MacDonald, MacInnis, Vernon, Loob, Gilmour.
> Gee, no similarity at all. Nope, Flames can't be doing the same thing
>
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> "I thought I told you that we won't stop. I thought I told you that we
> won't stop. I thought I told you that we won't s... wait a minute...
> we're stopping..."
>
> RAJ PANNU - rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca
>
> HitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLo
The funniest thing about what you wrote is that you compared MacInis,
Gilmour, Loob, etc. to Messier, Gretzky, Coffey, Kurri, and I could go
on forever.
The Oilers, even when rebuilding, beat you, and will continue to do so
because they have a hockey genius building their team and Calgary
doesn't.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lord Byron
On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, George Coles wrote:
> Lets Look at the list of players
>
> Gretzky Mullen Agree
> Messier MacDonald Agree
> Fuhr Vernon Agree
> Lowe MacInnis Disagree
> Kurri Gilmour This one is iffy
> Tikkanen Loob Disagree
What about players like Kent Nilsson (skilled but VERY stupid), yes I know
that he played for both, but he sure as hell played better for us, and Guy
Chouinard. Both very talented players?!
> The Oilers talent was FAR
SUPERIOR to the Flames talent listed
above. > It is alot harder to rebuild when you lose players of the Oilers
> caliber. Lets face it the Oilers were more talented than the Flames
> until most of the players moved on. The Flames did win 1 Cup. The
> Oilers lost Gretzky and still won a cup in '90 and made it to the
> conference final the next 2 years without others (Messier and Kurri).
> Much better than first round fade aways! The Oilers owner was unwilling
> to pay for good players, making the rebuilding more difficult.
>
>
> >>Fuck you Edmonton fans are dumb.>>
>
Adrean & Kelly Wolvers
The Flame <jmcc...@direct.ca> wrote in article
<5dlhml$v0$2...@aphex.direct.ca>...
> >Let's see, Edmonton got 5 goals on 19 shots, Calgary got 2 goals on 33
> >shots.
> >This tells me two things-
> >
> > Calgary's goaltending sucks.
> > Edmonton got the two points.
> >
> What you said tells ME two things-
>
> You know nothing about goaltending.
I was attempting to use logic and facts to show why your argument was
invalid.
I forgot that I was talking to a Flames fan and logic cannot penetrate your
tiny
brain. BTW, I think you should use your spare time (April and May would be
good,
while the Oilers are in the playoffs and the Flames are golfing) reading
about
goaltending and goaltending stats. The basic idea of goaltending is
keeping the
puck OUT of the net more than your opponent. (If you can figure this out,
maybe
you can explain it to Kidd) The team that can do this wins the game.
Adrean
P.S. Next time, shake your head before you begin typing!
Dan Morris
On 10 Feb 1997, Dan Brabbins wrote:
> 5
> Stanley Cups in a 18 year history compared to a meager 1 Stanley Cup for
> the Bomb-outs in a 26 or 27 year history.
Is that 18 years for the Oilers in the NHL or in the NHL and WHL combined?
Bill Pollard
Wes K wrote:
>
> Four words you will never here a Flame say???????????
>
> I'm going to Disneyland
>
> Wes K
Actually, Al MacInnis said it on May 24, 1989. I'm not sure if any
hockey players will be saying it again, since I don't think Conn Smythe
Trophy winners get a trip to Disneyland anymore.
Bill
The Flame
In article <01bc184e$48555980$ae45...@mycomputer.cadvision.com>,
wolv...@cadvision.com says...
>
>I was attempting to use logic and facts to show why your argument was
>invalid.
>I forgot that I was talking to a Flames fan and logic cannot penetrate
your
>tiny
>brain. BTW, I think you should use your spare time (April and May would
be
>good,
>while the Oilers are in the playoffs and the Flames are golfing) reading
>about
>goaltending and goaltending stats. The basic idea of goaltending is
>keeping the
>puck OUT of the net more than your opponent. (If you can figure this
out,
>maybe
>you can explain it to Kidd) The team that can do this wins the game.
>
>Adrean
>
>P.S. Next time, shake your head before you begin typing!
As an experienced goaltender, I'm always amazed at the armchair
goalie coaches out there who feel they are qualified to criticize a
professional. I know a great deal about goaltending as a matter of fact,
enough to know that with breakaways, screen shots, deflections, and the
quality of players in the NHL, you can't evaluate a
goaltender's performance by statistics. If that was the case, year end
awards would be decided by people like you, who don't watch the games,
and whose knowledge of the league is limited to knowing who "sucks" and
who doesn't. When I'm working with a ytoung goaltender, I always
encourage them to ignore people like you...
Raj Pannu
On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, George Coles wrote:
> >>Fuck you Edmonton fans are dumb.>>
>
> Do you kiss your Mommy with that mouth?
What? I thought most people use their fingers to type e-mail, obviously
not you though, maybe your tongue because your hands are busy stroking
yourself? And by the way, I use this mouth to satisfy your girlfriend.
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
"I thought I told you that we won't stop. I thought I told you that we
won't stop. I thought I told you that we won't s... wait a minute...
we're stopping..."
RAJ PANNU - rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca
HitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLo
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Raj Pannu
On 11 Feb 1997, Shawn S. Mullin wrote:
> The Oilers, even when rebuilding, beat you, and will continue to do so
> because they have a hockey genius building their team and Calgary
> doesn't.
>
Um, check that for a second. When Edmonton was rebuilding, they got sent
packing quite a few times at the hands of the Flames when they were
relatively developed. And right now? I don't consider the Oilers as
rebuilding, rather pretty much built well.
Brian Sculac
Romeo wrote:
>
> On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Brian Sculac wrote:
>
> >
> > And the Flames have been "average" since they've been in the NHL. We'll
> > be winning more cups while you losers are rebuilding.
> > Brian
> >
>
> Winning cups? Edmonton? Not bloody likely. Flames average since they
> were in the NHL? What, were you dumb and blind from 86-91?
>
> "I thought I told you that we won't stop. I thought I told you that we
> won't stop. I thought I told you that we won't s... wait a minute...
> we're stopping..."
>
> RAJ PANNU - rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca
>
> HitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLo
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So you won one fluke Cup, big deal. Like I said, we'll be winning Cups
while you guys are rebuilding.
Brian
Dan Brabbins
Dan Morris <drmo...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.A41.3.94.970209...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
> I'd rather have any of 'Beezer or Richter or Roy or (maybe) Hextall than
> Joseph any day. Joseph is not anywhere close to the best goalie in the
> league (altho he is better than any goalie the Flames have).
Goodness gracious there, Dan. You had better call ESPN and TSN and tell
them you're smarter than the guys who work there. Kind of shocking
considering they are saying that Joseph is a Hart trophy candidate behind
Hasek. Lose the jealousy, Dano. It's unbecoming of you.
Dan Brabbins
Raj Pannu <rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.A41.3.94.970211...@acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
> What? I thought most people use their fingers to type e-mail, obviously
> not you though, maybe your tongue because your hands are busy stroking
> yourself? And by the way, I use this mouth to satisfy your girlfriend.
Typical Calgary idiocy. You put a bad name on the rest of the city there
ya nutcase.
Denny Oxelgren
In article <01bc1939$38296b00$2c07...@Calvary.HUB.ofthe.NET>,
oile...@ice.net says...
You would rather have Hextall than Cujo?
Hey, with that kind of IQ he has to
be a flame fan.
The Flame
In article <01bc1939$83976a60$2c07...@Calvary.HUB.ofthe.NET>,
oile...@ice.net says...
Evan Sorestad
Marc Ciampa <fla...@lexicom.ab.ca> wrote:
>(snip) I think once the Flames start to
>become a Cup-challenging team again, Trevor Kidd will emerge as one of
>the top goaltenders in the league.
By the time that happens, Kidd will have retired! ;-)
> Right now he's standing on his head
>for us most nights but unfortunately the highlight reel picks up on his
>rare miscues such as his pass up the middle to Jason Arnott. Let's get
>off Kidd and Fleury's back and hope that the Flames as a team can pick
>it up from now until the end of the season and make it into the playoffs
>(maybe into 6th place to set up another classic Flames-Oilers showdown).
That would be a blast, wouldn't it?
E
Marc Ciampa
Aside from Gretzky.. our players were superior to yours!!
Lets Look at this list of players again...
Messier vs. McDonald
What McDonald's brought to this city has been something that I've never
seen. In 8 short years here, he wrapped up his career in such a way
incomparable to anyone in the NHL before or after his time. Sure,
Messier put up bigger numbers than Lanny (though Messier never scored 66
goals in one season), but I think this comparison has to go deeper than
that. Messier would win this comparison if he stayed with the Oilers.
Fuhr vs. Vernon
Vernon has and always has had a better average than Fuhr throughout his
career. He's also had a better winning percentage.
Lowe vs. MacInnis
Al MacInnis always has been better than Kevin Lowe. Sure Lowe always was
a steady blueliner but you can't compete with a steady 80 to 100
point-a-season player like MacInnis was when he was with Calgary.
????? vs. Suter
The Flames were better overall in the defence department.. I can't even
think of another Oiler that could have possibly compared to Suter..
maybe Steve Smith? Of course, he did more for us than he ever did for
the Oilers...
Tikkanen vs. Loob
Esa Tikkanen scored 30 goals only twice in his career, and never more
than 80 points and even though he was good defensively, Hakan Loob was
consistently an excellent player, scoring more than 30 goals every
season in the NHL except two -- one because of injury and the other
because he changed his role in the team's Cup winning year and racked up
58 assists, along with 85 points.
Anderson vs. Nieuwendyk
Glenn Anderson had many great years in Edmonton but tailed off once
Gretzky left. Nieuwendyk consistently got 90 to 100 points each season,
barring injury.
McTavish vs. Otto
The best faceoff man in the NHL was a huge defensive force for the
Flames. Just ask Mark Messier, who had Otto hanging on to him most
nights.
Kurri vs. Gilmour
Kurri was a great player I must admit.. But the Flames also lost Gary
Roberts. Gilmour and Roberts together is a 150 to 200 point and 70 to
90 goal a season pair.
And while we're at it...
Hunter vs. Semenko
I'd call it a draw. If only because the linesmen broke it up too early.
The Flames also have a better overall regular season record than the
Oilers. Since the Oilers joined the NHL, The Flames are (660-487-191)
while the Oilers are (642-560-122). From 1986 until 1991, the Flames
were (236-120-44) and Edmonton was (207-148-45).
I'm sure we can comprimise at this: The Flames are better historically
in the regular season and the Oilers are much better historically in the
playoffs.
Sincerely,
Marc Ciampa
Calgary Flames Web Page Maintainer
http://www.lexicom.ab.ca/~flames
The Flame
I think we're all forgetting what the Battle of Alberta is all
about...competition between the Flames and the Oilers. It's not a contest
to see who can wint he most Cups, unless the Flames and Oilers somehow
were playing against each other in the final. What are the all-time
head-to-head regular season playoff records between the Flames and the
Oilers, including this year?
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <Pine.A41.3.94.970211...@acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca>, Raj Pannu <rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, George Coles wrote:
>
>> >>Fuck you Edmonton fans are dumb.>>
>>
>> Do you kiss your Mommy with that mouth?
>
>not you though, maybe your tongue because your hands are busy stroking
>yourself? And by the way, I use this mouth to satisfy your girlfriend.
>
> "I thought I told you that we won't stop. I thought I told you that we
> won't stop. I thought I told you that we won't s... wait a minute...
> we're stopping..."
>
>RAJ PANNU - rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca
>
>HitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmLoHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmHiHitEmLoHitEmLo
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
actually even a 12 year old has more brains and class than you do. Crawl back
into your hole loser and don't bother writing back till you have something
intelligent to say. In other words, see you in about 20 years.
Dan Brabbins
Marc Ciampa <fla...@lexicom.ab.ca> wrote in article
<3302BF...@lexicom.ab.ca>...
> I'm sure we can comprimise at this: The Flames are better historically
> in the regular season and the Oilers are much better historically in the
> playoffs.
First, you can't compare Kevin Lowe and Al MacInnis, two different styles
of hockey, one was a defensive specialist while the other was in truth, a
powerplay specialist and an offensive specialist. If you want to compare,
compare Coffey and MacInnis.
Second, Fuhr I would take over Vernon any day, not because Vernon's a bad
goaltender but because when the money's on the line, there are few
goaltenders better than Grant Fuhr was at his best. Only other names I can
think of offhand are Patrick Roy, Mike Richter and Bill Ranford (although
this could be argued with his decline in play the last couple of years.).
Third, Tikkanen did something on top of scoring points and playing
excellent hockey, he irritated the snot out of other players and threw them
off their game and many, many times shut down the other teams top player.
Something Loob could not do.
Fourth, MacTavish was a penalty killer specialist, never known for his
"excellent" face-off skills, taking face-offs out of the picture and I
think you'd have to call it a draw because each player had certain areas
stronger than the other and weaker areas than the other.
Fifth, Kurri scored 50 or more goals how many times? Got over 100 points
how many times? Scored how many game winners? Gilmour was a good all
around player but it's common fact that Kurri was much enheralded for his
excellent defensive play as well as his wonderful offensive skills.
Hunter vs. Semenko, a draw? Not likely, Semenko viewed as one of the most
feared fights of all time, are least his ear. Hunter isn't mentioned. End
of comparison.
Flames overall record is better than the Oilers in the regular season, big
deal. Calgary fans have to stop living in the regular season, the regular
season doesn't win the Stanley Cup, something the Oilers have done 4 more
times than the Flames have and also have played for 4 more times than the
Flames have. The plain and simple fact is this, the Oilers have more Cups
and hardware than the Flames have. The Flames have nothing but one Cup and
a history of choking with all the players you named above for the Flames.
Dan Brabbins
Raj Pannu <rpa...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
<Pine.A41.3.94.970211...@acs4.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
> Um, check that for a second. When Edmonton was rebuilding, they got sent
> packing quite a few times at the hands of the Flames when they were
> relatively developed. And right now? I don't consider the Oilers as
> rebuilding, rather pretty much built well.
So what's the Flames sorry excuse for no Stanley Cups then during that time
period? The Oilers weren't there and they STILL couldn't do it.
Jay Brenner
Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers 8,
flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of nine).
So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch the
Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
Jay Brenner
Romeo wrote:
> Winning cups? Edmonton? Not bloody likely. Flames average since they
> were in the NHL? What, were you dumb and blind from 86-91?
And at what point this season did Calgary go for seven wins in eight
games? (Actually, I should post this tomorrow so I can say eight wins
in nine games with less than a .001% probablility of error).
The Flames really do suck this year, no really check the standings and
you'll see my point. Oh, by the way, have you consulted the Edmonton
Oilers box office regarding playoff tickets yet? If you wait until the
season's over they really will be a mother to get.
Robin Thompson
- What are you...a god damn moron? When did I say Calgarys goaltending was awesome you putz? All I said wa that Calgary outshot Edmonton 33-19! What does that tell you? Gee...you definately aren't the brightest lightbulb in the package...but we already know that since you are an Edmonton fan. What's with you Edmonton fans on the Calgary group anyhow? Probably because there is no positive notes on your team to chat about, so you go on other groups and bash their teams! Get a life you loosers!
- P.S. Maybe you should pay a little more attention to what is said you schmuck! The point was on Edmonton being outshot...not Calgarys goaltending being good! DUH!
Dan Morris
On 12 Feb 1997, Dan Brabbins wrote:
> > I'd rather have any of 'Beezer or Richter or Roy or (maybe) Hextall than
> > Joseph any day. Joseph is not anywhere close to the best goalie in the
> > league (altho he is better than any goalie the Flames have).
>
> Goodness gracious there, Dan. You had better call ESPN and TSN and tell
> them you're smarter than the guys who work there. Kind of shocking
> considering they are saying that Joseph is a Hart trophy candidate behind
> Hasek. Lose the jealousy, Dano. It's unbecoming of you.
Hasek would win it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before Joseph. Look at
Joseph's GAA. Last time I checked it was in the 2.6 range...not stellar
in the least. Then again, if you consider the team that Joseph's on, then
maybe he'd be the MVP, but then that'd saying something to the effect that
Edmonton sucks and is only where it is in the standings because of Joseph.
Somehow, I don't think you'd want to say that...
Dan Morris
On 13 Feb 1997, Dan Brabbins wrote:
> Second, Fuhr I would take over Vernon any day, not because Vernon's a bad
> goaltender but because when the money's on the line, there are few
> goaltenders better than Grant Fuhr was at his best. Only other names I can
> think of offhand are Patrick Roy, Mike Richter and Bill Ranford (although
> this could be argued with his decline in play the last couple of years.).
I agree here, although not with the inclusion of Ranford in there...
> Fifth, Kurri scored 50 or more goals how many times? Got over 100 points
> how many times? Scored how many game winners? Gilmour was a good all
> around player but it's common fact that Kurri was much enheralded for his
> excellent defensive play as well as his wonderful offensive skills.
Who was he playing with for almost that whole time? It's hard NOT to get
50 goals when playing with Gretzky. Look at what he was doing in LA in
the last year he was there with those rookie wingers. They were scoring
quite a bit (not quite as much as Kurri, but Gretz wasn't in his prime
either) and now they aren't. The credit here goes to Gretzky with a
slight assist to Kurri.
Dan
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <3302BF...@lexicom.ab.ca>, fla...@lexicom.ab.ca wrote:
>Aside from Gretzky.. our players were superior to yours!!
>
>Lets Look at this list of players again...
>Messier vs. McDonald
>What McDonald's brought to this city has been something that I've never
>seen. In 8 short years here, he wrapped up his career in such a way
>incomparable to anyone in the NHL before or after his time. Sure,
>Messier put up bigger numbers than Lanny (though Messier never scored 66
>goals in one season), but I think this comparison has to go deeper than
>
>Fuhr vs. Vernon
>in the regular season and the Oilers are much better historically in the
>playoffs.
>
Your points are all well taken. But my point is that all those comparisons
mean nothing because the only thing that matters is the numbers 5-1 and I
think you know what i'm getting at. ;)
Scott
The Flame
Flames 3 Oilers 2 (OT)
We had the pleasure of watching a pretty good game, with
the Flames getting the nod in overtime. Nice to see Reichel getting it
together, what an asset his scoring will be. Hopefully the Oilers fans,
who are always polite and gracious in defeat, won't whine about the
penalty call in overtime, or the Oilers key players being sick, or Bob
Essensa in goal. And they have too much class to bring up all the old
Cup winning teams, which of course don't do you much good out on the ice.
I think tonight proved that when both these teams play well, they're on
fairly even terms. One interesting note, Oilers defenseman Bryan
Marchment left the game with heart complications after Ronnie Stern
challenged him to a fight.
:)
Jeffrey Brett Verges
you oiler fans can start explaining last night right now. and no
sob stories about runny noses.
jbv
--
"You're born, life is tough and then you die."
Tom Bergstrom 1994
Dan Morris
On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Denny Oxelgren wrote:
> You would rather have Hextall than Cujo?
So I was having a bad day naming goalies. My point was that Cujo isn't
one of the elite goalies in the league.
u747071
Jay Brenner wrote:
> And at what point this season did Calgary go for seven wins in eight
> games? (Actually, I should post this tomorrow so I can say eight wins
> in nine games with less than a .001% probablility of error).
Must be biting your tong now eh? It was indeed a beautiful game last
night.
We may not have won 7 of 8 (though I'm not all that sure about that),
but we have won 4 of 4.
>
> The Flames really do suck this year, no really check the standings and
> you'll see my point. Oh, by the way, have you consulted the Edmonton
> Oilers box office regarding playoff tickets yet? If you wait until the
> season's over they really will be a mother to get.
Actually, I'm not planning to consult the Oilers box-office anytime
soon. Even if I were still back west, I'd rather watch a good team on
TV, than you loosers live.
Patrick Goss
Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat grass...Boy
did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
Flashpoint
Patrick Goss
> Calgary fans have to stop living in the regular season, the regular
> season doesn't win the Stanley Cup, something the Oilers have done 4 more
> times than the Flames have and also have played for 4 more times than the
> Flames have. The plain and simple fact is this, the Oilers have more Cups
> and hardware than the Flames have. The Flames have nothing but one Cup and
> a history of choking with all the players you named above for the Flames.
So I guess by your logic, becuase Ottawa has won 9 Stanley cups
they are the third best team in the league. I guess by your logic that
Toronto is the second best team in the league. I guess by your logic MTL
is the best team no only in the league, the best team ever. Your logic is
nothing more than the ramblings of a fool. Go back to Deadmonton.
Flashpoint
Res Ipsa Loquitur
Patrick Goss <pag...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> Flashpoint
Sorry to interject in the sparring, but as an ignorant Atlantan who
still enjoys following the Flames, I was wondering what the
aforementioned "git" is.
Go Flames,
ab
P.S.--Resume sparring.
Marc Ciampa
(Actually, I should post this tomorrow so I can
say eight wins
> in nine games with less than a .001% probablility of error).
Wes K
The Flame <jmcc...@direct.ca> wrote in article
<5e1eva$nkl$2...@orb.direct.ca>...
> Flames 3 Oilers 2 (OT)
>
One interesting note, Oilers defenseman Bryan
> Marchment left the game with heart complications after Ronnie Stern
> challenged him to a fight.
Try cracked ribs pal!!!! Good thing for Stern, who hasn't won to many
tilts in the NHL that I have seen.
Wes K
Jennifer Matis
You people. Geez this is more interesting that watching a game between the
teams. Both cities had good teams. I can say that because I started out as
an Oiler fan, and Im now a Flames fan. So just take a pill and calm down.
We should all be glad these two teams are still around and still in
Alberta!
Jaymal Ruparell & Family
weel, i admit edmenton sucks, but Joseph he rules!!!!!!!!!
Denny Oxelgren <k...@escape.ca> wrote in article
<MPG.d6c650bf...@news.escape.ca>...
> In article <01bc1939$38296b00$2c07...@Calvary.HUB.ofthe.NET>,
> oile...@ice.net says...
> >
> >
> > Dan Morris <drmo...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote in article
> > <Pine.A41.3.94.970209...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca>...
> > > I'd rather have any of 'Beezer or Richter or Roy or (maybe) Hextall
than
> > > Joseph any day. Joseph is not anywhere close to the best goalie in
the
> > > league (altho he is better than any goalie the Flames have).
> >
> > Goodness gracious there, Dan. You had better call ESPN and TSN and
tell
> > them you're smarter than the guys who work there. Kind of shocking
> > considering they are saying that Joseph is a Hart trophy candidate
behind
> > Hasek. Lose the jealousy, Dano. It's unbecoming of you.
> >
> >
> Dano,
>
> You would rather have Hextall than Cujo?
>
Wes K
Jaymal Ruparell & Family <rupa...@cadvision.com> wrote in article
<01bc1b82$085025e0$2a49...@PATHFINDER.cadvision.com>...
> weel, i admit edmenton sucks, but Joseph he rules!!!!!!!!!
>
I sea yor speling is stil as bad as a 5 yeer olds. If yue dont lighk wat
i say sew me.
Wes K
The Flame
In article <01bc1b55$bf9340c0$2854...@wkreider.compusmart.ab.ca>,
wkre...@compusmart.ab.ca says...
Nope, Sternie doesn't fight often, and isn't a heavyweight, but
it's the thought that counts I guess. Marchment always seems to walk a
little taller when Debrusk is in the lineup....
>Wes K
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <3304EA...@csi.uottawa.ca>, u747071 <u74...@csi.uottawa.ca> wrote:
>Jay Brenner wrote:
>
>> And at what point this season did Calgary go for seven wins in eight
>> in nine games with less than a .001% probablility of error).
>
>night.
>We may not have won 7 of 8 (though I'm not all that sure about that),
>but we have won 4 of 4.
>>
>> The Flames really do suck this year, no really check the standings and
>> you'll see my point. Oh, by the way, have you consulted the Edmonton
>> Oilers box office regarding playoff tickets yet? If you wait until the
>> season's over they really will be a mother to get.
>
>Actually, I'm not planning to consult the Oilers box-office anytime
>soon. Even if I were still back west, I'd rather watch a good team on
>TV, than you loosers live.
The sun even shines on a dog's ass sometimes. By the way when you learn how
to spell come talk to us.
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <Pine.A41.3.94.970214...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, Patrick Goss <pag...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>
>
>On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Jay Brenner wrote:
>
>> Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers 8,
>> flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of nine).
>> So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch the
>> Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
>
> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat grass...Boy
>did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
>importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
>
> Flashpoint
>
3-2 in overtime sure is a stomping...now 10-1, THAT was a stomping. I think
flashpoint is out of powder with the exception of the coke he snorts.
Brian Sculac
Patrick Goss wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Jay Brenner wrote:
>
> > Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers 8,
> > flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of nine).
> > So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch the
> > Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
>
> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat grass...Boy
> did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
> importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
>
> Flashpoint
Stomp? Uh, you won in OT, goofball. Half the team was sick too. What a
bunch of loooosers!
Brian Sculac
u747071 wrote:
>
> Jay Brenner wrote:
>
> > And at what point this season did Calgary go for seven wins in eight
> > games? (Actually, I should post this tomorrow so I can say eight wins
> > in nine games with less than a .001% probablility of error).
>
> Must be biting your tong now eh? It was indeed a beautiful game last
> night.
> We may not have won 7 of 8 (though I'm not all that sure about that),
> but we have won 4 of 4.
> >
> > The Flames really do suck this year, no really check the standings and
> > you'll see my point. Oh, by the way, have you consulted the Edmonton
> > Oilers box office regarding playoff tickets yet? If you wait until the
> > season's over they really will be a mother to get.
>
> Actually, I'm not planning to consult the Oilers box-office anytime
> soon. Even if I were still back west, I'd rather watch a good team on
> TV, than you loosers live.
You'd rather watch the Shames than the Oil? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Brian Sculac
The Flame wrote:
>
> Flames 3 Oilers 2 (OT)
>
> the Flames getting the nod in overtime. Nice to see Reichel getting it
> together, what an asset his scoring will be. Hopefully the Oilers fans,
> who are always polite and gracious in defeat, won't whine about the
> penalty call in overtime, or the Oilers key players being sick, or Bob
> Essensa in goal. And they have too much class to bring up all the old
> Cup winning teams, which of course don't do you much good out on the ice.
> I think tonight proved that when both these teams play well, they're on
> Marchment left the game with heart complications after Ronnie Stern
> challenged him to a fight.
>
Mush would never back down from a fight. Especially Ron Stern.
Brian Sculac
I agree Jennifer. I love the Oil, hate the Flames, but I'm sick of all
the "oilers suck" and "Flames suck" posts. We may not have an NHL team
in Alberta 10 years from now. Let's just support our teams and quit the
negative BS.
Brian
The Flame
In article <5e69nb$8...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
>
>In article
<Pine.A41.3.94.970214...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, Patr
>ick Goss <pag...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Jay Brenner wrote:
>>
>>> Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers 8,
>>> flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of
nine).
>>> So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch
the
>>> Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
>>
>> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat
grass...Boy
>>did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
>>importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
>>
>> Flashpoint
>>
>
think
>flashpoint is out of powder with the exception of the coke he snorts.
>
mind. Maybe that will ease the pain of defeat.
The Flame
In article <330740...@netcom.ca>, bsc...@netcom.ca says...
>
>Patrick Goss wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Jay Brenner wrote:
>>
>> > Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers
8,
>> > flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of
nine).
>> > So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch
the
>> > Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
>>
>> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat
grass...Boy
>> did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
>> importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
>>
>> Flashpoint
>
>bunch of loooosers!
That should be the new Oilers motto...losing is acceptable if you
have an excuse.
Dan Morris
On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Brian Sculac wrote:
> Mush would never back down from a fight. Especially Ron Stern.
Guess what...that's exactly what he did.
Dan
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
In article <5e88k3$t62$1...@aphex.direct.ca>, jmcc...@direct.ca (The Flame) wrote:
>In article <5e69nb$8...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
>>
>>In article
><Pine.A41.3.94.970214...@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca>, Patr
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Jay Brenner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let's take possible scores on tonight's game. I'll go with Oilers 8,
>>>> flames 2. Come on, we've won seven of eight (soon to be eight of
>nine).
>>>> So let's all watch TSN tonight (I know, I was shocked too) and watch
>the
>>>> Edmonton Oilers kick some ass!
>>>
>>> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat
>grass...Boy
>>>did we stomp you pathetic gits. Get a life, get a brain, and most
>>>importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
>>>
>>> Flashpoint
>>>
>>
>think
>>flashpoint is out of powder with the exception of the coke he snorts.
>>
> That's it...just remember the 10-1 win, keep it fresh in your
>mind. Maybe that will ease the pain of defeat.
>
What eases my pain is looking at the standings.
u747071
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner wrote:
> >Must be biting your tong now eh? It was indeed a beautiful game last
> >night.
> >We may not have won 7 of 8 (though I'm not all that sure about that),
> >but we have won 4 of 4.
> >Actually, I'm not planning to consult the Oilers box-office anytime
> >soon. Even if I were still back west, I'd rather watch a good team on
> >TV, than you loosers live.
>
> The sun even shines on a dog's ass sometimes. By the way when you learn how
> to spell come talk to us.
How mature.
So, my spelling isn't perfect, but it's probably still a hell of a lot
better than your french. Plus have you ever heard of typos?
Plus, I guess I got my point across pretty well, since your best
comeback was to insult my spelling.
Anne-Lise Piquard - the biggest (and possibly only) Flames fan in Ottawa
u747071
> > I'd rather watch a good team on
>
> You'd rather watch the Shames than the Oil? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
That's what I said. I'd rather watch a good team play.
Anne-Lise Piquard - the biggest (and possibly ony) Flames fan in Ottawa
Brian Sculac
The Flame wrote:
>
> In article <01bc1b55$bf9340c0$2854...@wkreider.compusmart.ab.ca>,
> wkre...@compusmart.ab.ca says...
> >
> >
> >
> >The Flame <jmcc...@direct.ca> wrote in article
> ><5e1eva$nkl$2...@orb.direct.ca>...
> >>
> >> Marchment left the game with heart complications after Ronnie Stern
> >> challenged him to a fight.
> >
> to many
> >tilts in the NHL that I have seen.
>
> Nope, Sternie doesn't fight often, and isn't a heavyweight, but
> it's the thought that counts I guess. Marchment always seems to walk a
> little taller when Debrusk is in the lineup....
> >Wes K
Louie is NEVER in the line-up! Even if he is, he won't fight anyway.
Scott Gardiner & Alanna May-Gardiner
That babbling of yours had a point?
Dan Brabbins
u747071 <u74...@csi.uottawa.ca> wrote in article
<3308A...@csi.uottawa.ca>...
> > > I'd rather watch a good team on
> > > TV, than you losers live.
> >
> > You'd rather watch the Shames than the Oil? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
>
> That's what I said. I'd rather watch a good team play.
But I thought you said you wanted to watch the Flames play??? Good teams
are teams that aren't desperately trying to stay in the playoff hunt.
Those are BAD teams, hun.
The Flame
In article <5ea338$c...@news.interlog.com>, gard...@interlog.com says...
>> That's it...just remember the 10-1 win, keep it fresh in your
>>mind. Maybe that will ease the pain of defeat.
>>
>
>What eases my pain is looking at the standings.
>
Yeah, we're 4 points closer to you now! :)
Brian Sculac
u747071 wrote:
>
> > > I'd rather watch a good team on
> > > TV, than you losers live.
> >
> > You'd rather watch the Shames than the Oil? Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
>
> That's what I said. I'd rather watch a good team play.
>
Anne, Anne Anne. Do you seriously think that Calgary is a better team
than the Oilers? I'd rather watch Ottawa than Calgary. The Senators are
going to be a good team. The Flames need to do some rebuilding.
The Flame
In article <330A78...@netcom.ca>, bsc...@netcom.ca says...
Maybe you haven't been following the NHL for the past year or
two...rebuilding is exactly what the Flames are doing. At this point, I
would almost rather watch the Oilers play...that game against Anaheim
looked pretty entertaining :)
Evan Sorestad
jbve...@acs2.acs.ucalgary.ca (Jeffrey Brett Verges) wrote:
>you oiler fans can start explaining last night right now. and no
>sob stories about runny noses.
>jbv
Yup, they lost a tough, entertaining game. The Oilers are ahead by
only nine points now. And your point is.....?
E
Evan Sorestad
Patrick Goss <pag...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
>> Calgary fans have to stop living in the regular season, the regular
>> season doesn't win the Stanley Cup, something the Oilers have done 4 more
>> times than the Flames have and also have played for 4 more times than the
>> Flames have. The plain and simple fact is this, the Oilers have more Cups
>> and hardware than the Flames have. The Flames have nothing but one Cup and
>> a history of choking with all the players you named above for the Flames.
> So I guess by your logic, becuase Ottawa has won 9 Stanley cups
>they are the third best team in the league. I guess by your logic that
>Toronto is the second best team in the league. I guess by your logic MTL
>is the best team no only in the league, the best team ever. Your logic is
>nothing more than the ramblings of a fool. Go back to Deadmonton.
Well, historically speaking, that is correct.
As far as being the ramblings of a fool, it is at least ramblings that
can be backed up with hard quantifiable data, which is more than you
can do, isn't it?
E
> Flashpoint
Evan Sorestad
Patrick Goss <pag...@acs.ucalgary.ca> wrote:
> Ummm, what was that? Watch the Deadmonton whiners eat grass...Boy
>did we stomp you pathetic gits.
3-2 in overtime... that is a "stomping"? If that is your definition,
then you are really in trouble. Oh yes, compared to a 10-1 score
against, I guess 3-2 in overtime would seem like a great
accomplishment to you.
> Get a life, get a brain, and most
>importantly get a real team. Go Flames Go.
BWA HA HA HA!
Now if that wasn't the biggest contradiction in terms ever - "a real
team. Go Flames Go." Enjoy the golf course come playoffs time.
E
Brian Sculac
Rebuilding? The only young talent I see is Iginla. Loved the game gainst
Detroit last night:)
The Flame
In article <330C82...@netcom.ca>, bsc...@netcom.ca says...
>> Maybe you haven't been following the NHL for the past year or
>> two...rebuilding is exactly what the Flames are doing. At this point,
I
>> would almost rather watch the Oilers play...that game against Anaheim
>> looked pretty entertaining :)
>
>Rebuilding? The only young talent I see is Iginla. Loved the game gainst
>Detroit last night:)
Rebiulding in sports can be defined by the departure over time of
most of a contending teams best players, and their replacement with
younger prospects. We can see this all around the league, Edmonton,
Montreal, Los Angeles, all are in various stages of this cycle. The
Flames are no exception, with most of the veterans leaving the
organization in the past 5 years, to be replaced by young talent.
OUT IN
Gilmour Iginla
MacInnis Gavey
Nieuwendyk Kidd
Suter Hulse
Vernon Stillman
Macoun Hoglund
Otto Simpson
I know I shouldn't have to explain this, as it's fairly obvious
to anyone who follows the league, but not all of us on this newsgroup do
I guess :)
Brian Sculac
Sorry Flame man, the only good talent I see is Iginla(of course, I don't
see the Flames play that much). As for not following the "League", i was
following this "League" when you were still in diapers.:)