My Wings Changes
Mike
the hockeytown logo on center ice and put "Losers" and replace the
banners with First rd Losers. LOL, I actually heard someone say this
today.
I think that this is the time we find out how competent Ken Holland is.
I have never really ripped him for any of the moves because I have
always felt that Bowman was really in charge of personnel decisions. As
soon as Bowman leaves, possibly within a couple weeks I will start to
analyze Holland.
Here is my list of players that have to go or be traded:
Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
all time.
Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
Pat Verbeek-He gives 100% every night but he is just too old and slow.
I wish we had him 10 years ago.
Doug Brown-You Blow!
Brent Gilchrist- If you can't score in 50 games, you are useless.
Igor Larionov- He was a nice player and I will never forget the time he
beatup Forsberg. He's 40 years old and he should retire.
Slava Kozlov- I have no idea what's wrong with this guy. I think its
time to trade him because he's been only showing up for 10 games a year
the last few years.
Larry Murphy-I have never seen a d-man so slow yet effective. Its time
for him to retire.
Todd Gill-He had a Norris Trophy type season and then in the playoffs
the real Todd Gill showed up. Bye
Steve Duschene-I have never liked him. He is a Paul Coffey clone who
doesn't play defense. Its time to get rid of him.
Chris Chelios-What a loser this clown is. I heard a rumor that the
Wings will trade him back to Chicago for his final year next year.
PLEASE!!! We'll even throw in a draft pick with him to get rid of him.
Ken Wregget-The reason why we can't score 5 on 5 is because of this
guy. The players score so easily on him in practice that they think
they are good. Needed a laugh.
Kirk Maltby-What I said about Kozlov applies to him. Hasn't shown up
since 98.
Martin Lapointe- This moron decides to show up to play this year because
his contract is up, yet the true Lapointe shows up in the playoffs. He
is going to be a $4mil/year mistake wherever he goes.
I know I practically named the whole team, I did leave off Draper,
McCarty, Butsayev, Deveraux, Holmstrom, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Dandenault,
Fischer, Ward, Kuznetsov, Osgood, Legace, Williams. These are the only
players that I believe fit into the future. This team won't stay down
for long though. Mike Illitch has always spent the money on this team
and has always acquired the best coaches and players.
In Conclusion, these changes have to be made this year. In my opinion,
we are 1 year behind schedule and the ball should have started rolling
last year.
-Mike
Tomba
Peca, Sakic, Deadmarsh, and any descent Av or Devil available.
Another thought, send Shannie and Stevie to the Isiah Thomas & Mateen
Cleeves - How to Win a Championship on a Bad Wheel Summer Sports Camp.
Couldn't either of those guys find a good anethstesiologist to give them a
pre-game epidural (that's what women get to numb all the pain down low
during labor).
"Mike" <sk...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
> the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
> shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
> Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
well if you'll trade him I'm pretty sure he will become NHL MVP the next
season:-) there's that and there's something bigger.. come playoff time
he'll become Wings nemesis aka Deadmarsh is now....
anyways where was Shanahan last year!! where was Yzerman last year!! nobody
bashed them like they bash Fedorov now! take a look at the playoff stats for
a 5 years back and you'll see he's better than any Detroiter......
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Steve84
Steve
Tomba wrote:
> OK, you have my blessings but keep Stevie around for a while. Let's go get
> Peca, Sakic, Deadmarsh, and any descent Av or Devil available.
>
> Another thought, send Shannie and Stevie to the Isiah Thomas & Mateen
> Cleeves - How to Win a Championship on a Bad Wheel Summer Sports Camp.
> Couldn't either of those guys find a good anethstesiologist to give them a
> pre-game epidural (that's what women get to numb all the pain down low
> during labor).
>
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Mike wrote:
>
> Here is my list of players that have to go or be traded:
> Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
> washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
> or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
> all time.
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WalkinDude
>I think we should get rid of everyone that is 35 and over, get rid of
>the hockeytown logo on center ice and put "Losers" and replace the
>banners with First rd Losers. LOL, I actually heard someone say this
>today.
I'm betting you weren't a fan of this team in '86, Mike.
>I think that this is the time we find out how competent Ken Holland is.
>I have never really ripped him for any of the moves because I have
>always felt that Bowman was really in charge of personnel decisions. As
>soon as Bowman leaves, possibly within a couple weeks I will start to
>analyze Holland.
If Bowman wants to come back, Bowman will be back. Personally, I hope
he has a nice retirement. Thanks a ton, Scotty.
>Here is my list of players that have to go or be traded:
>Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
>washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
>or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
>all time.
Mike, I couldn't agree with you less. He hasn't been missing playoff
time because of nagging injuries. These have been freak, late-season
injuries (i.e. the broken ankle in the Flyer game). He's still
Detroit's best all-around player and he will retire a Red Wing. As
someone who started following this team before 1997, I can tell you
it's very important to me that he retire in that Winged Wheel without
ever donning anyone else's uniform. Call me overly sentimental.
>Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
>the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
>shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
>Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
Horseshit. The rest of the team disappeared right along with him.
Before that, he was the team's best player. He's also the only
reliable star they have come playoff time.
>Pat Verbeek-He gives 100% every night but he is just too old and slow.
>I wish we had him 10 years ago.
He deserved better last night. That little bastard played his frickin
ass off. That said, it's time to get younger. Bye, Pat. Thanks
much.
>Doug Brown-You Blow!
We have cheaper guys in the minors who can blow. Come to think of it,
that sums up *most* of the forwards in our system.
>Brent Gilchrist- If you can't score in 50 games, you are useless.
We have cheaper guys in the minors who can go 50 games without a goal.
Come to think of it, that sums up *most* of the forwards in our
system.
>Igor Larionov- He was a nice player and I will never forget the time he
>beatup Forsberg. He's 40 years old and he should retire.
He'll play another year and he'll more than likely do it in Detroit.
>Slava Kozlov- I have no idea what's wrong with this guy. I think its
>time to trade him because he's been only showing up for 10 games a year
>the last few years.
Those 10 games are playoff games. Keep him.
>Larry Murphy-I have never seen a d-man so slow yet effective. Its time
>for him to retire.
In Murph's defense, he was probably the Wings' 2nd best d-man this
postseason. In fact, that sums up half the problem this postseason.
>Todd Gill-He had a Norris Trophy type season and then in the playoffs
>the real Todd Gill showed up. Bye
That "real" Todd Gill was playing with a broken foot.
>Steve Duschene-I have never liked him. He is a Paul Coffey clone who
>doesn't play defense. Its time to get rid of him.
Sometimes, he looks like a top-tier d-man. Other times, he looks
washed up. His salary is too much of a burden.
>Chris Chelios-What a loser this clown is. I heard a rumor that the
>Wings will trade him back to Chicago for his final year next year.
>PLEASE!!! We'll even throw in a draft pick with him to get rid of him.
Haven't heard that rumor. Regardless, adios Chris, it's been a nice
career.
>Ken Wregget-The reason why we can't score 5 on 5 is because of this
>guy. The players score so easily on him in practice that they think
>they are good. Needed a laugh.
He's no Phil Sauve.
>Kirk Maltby-What I said about Kozlov applies to him. Hasn't shown up
>since 98.
He played just about as well as everyone else. If you're expecting
him to pick up the scoring load, you're going to be disappointed.
>Martin Lapointe- This moron decides to show up to play this year because
>his contract is up, yet the true Lapointe shows up in the playoffs. He
>is going to be a $4mil/year mistake wherever he goes.
If we can get him for $2 to $2.5 mil a year, go for it. Anything
higher, let him leave and use the money elsewhere.
>I know I practically named the whole team, I did leave off Draper,
At a mil a year, who'd take him?
>McCarty,
He and Verbeek were Detroit's best players in game 6. The problem
with Mac is that he'll never be what a lot of people hoped he could
be.
>Butsayev,
Waste of a roster spot. I don't know what anyone sees in this kid.
>Deveraux,
Every time I think this kid is about to prove his worth, I wind up
being wrong again.
>Holmstrom,
One of the young bright spots on an aging team.
>Shanahan,
22 minutes, 5 shots, 5 hits, all on a broken foot. The guy has balls
the size of Olympus Mons. He still has a lot of good hockey left in
him.
>Lidstrom,
Aside from being the best defenseman in hockey, he sucks.
>Dandenault,
Added scoring and hitting to his game this year. He'll be a solid 2
pairing guy for a long time.
>Fischer,
Sure, he had some rough spots in the playoffs this year. He's the
future cornerstone of the defense. He hits like a ton of bricks, is
getting more responsible defensively, is already one of the best
outlet passers on the team and, when he learns how to get his shot
through from the point, could turn out to be a very complete player.
>Ward,
If Scotty leaves, look for him to start playing again. I like him
with Dandenault on the 2nd pairing, or paired with Kuznetsov on the
3rd.
>Kuznetsov,
Left for dead just last year, he was the second biggest surprise of
the year, next to Jason Williams. He hits like a monster and has
shown some flash in the offensive end. Looks like he's plodding at
times, but if he can become more fundamentally sound in his own zone,
he could be a fixture on the 3rd pairing.
>Osgood,
As well as he played, bad first goals in games 5 and 6 were killers.
Can't blame the loss on him, though. He played well. This team
wouldn't have won with Patty Roy in net (who, incidentally, played
worse than Osgood in round 1, but had the benefit of capable
teammates).
>Legace,
You can't let him go until he proves he doesn't belong. So far, all
he's done is win.
>Williams.
If given ice time and some decent linemates, he'll start racking up
points next year. He's solid on defense and is even willing to hit a
little. He was an absolute free agent steal.
>These are the only
>players that I believe fit into the future. This team won't stay down
>for long though. Mike Illitch has always spent the money on this team
>and has always acquired the best coaches and players.
Here's hoping Mike sells the Tigers. So far, the Wings still seem
like his priority, but that could change.
>In Conclusion, these changes have to be made this year. In my opinion,
>we are 1 year behind schedule and the ball should have started rolling
>last year.
Couldn't agree more. Well, I could, but what would be the point of
that?
(A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer.
palooka
>well if you'll trade him I'm pretty sure he will become NHL MVP the next
>season:-)
Big fucking deal. In Detroit, he's eating up a roster spot. Until the
Primadonna starts playing like he SHOULD, he's just using air that a
hard working player could be using. Hell, I would rather have another
Maltby that would go out and play with HEART than to have a "potential
league MVP" shining the bench with his ass and skating around like a
lost puppy in the playoffs.
Palooka
palooka
>
>anyways where was Shanahan last year!! where was Yzerman last year!! nobody
>bashed them like they bash Fedorov now!
You must not have even LURKED in this group last season if you believe
that. Shanny caught a shit-load of Hell from the fans in here. All we
did was bitch about him. All the talk about his "back-injury" to his
"only playing good in contract years" crap. Everyone has bitched about
Shanny. Hell, people even bitch about Stevie Y all the time. What
exactly were you talking about?
Palooka
palooka
Some dumb fuck wrote:
>He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
>>all time.
1310 games played
645 goals
969 assists
1614 points
153 playoff games played
61 playoff goals
91 playoff assists
60+ goal seasons TWICE in his career
50+ goal seasons 5 times in his career
30+ goal seasons 12 times in his career
Here is the list of leading goal scorers in the NHL
600 goal scorers
Player Teams Goals Games played
Wayne Gretzky Edm, L.A., StL, NYR 894 1487
Gordie Howe Det, Hart. 801 1767
Marcel Dionne Det., L.A., NYR 731 1348
Phil Esposito Chi, Bos, NYR 717 1282
Mike Gartner Wsh, Min, NYR, Tor, Pho 708 1432
Mark Messier* Edm, NYR, Van 615 1083
Mario Lemieux Pit 613 745
Steve Yzerman* Det 610 1215
Bobby Hull Chi. Wpg, Hart 610 1063
Dino Ciccarelli Min, Wash, Det, TB, Fla 608 1413
Jari Kurri Edm., L.A., NYR, Ana, Col 601 1251
Brett Hull* Cal, St.L, Dallas 601 900
This is an old listing (before this season started) but it is still
fairly accurate, as Yzerman now has 645 but Mario has 648.
Over hyped? Of all time?
Give me a fucking break.
Palooka
Otto Henry
> I have never really ripped him for any of the moves because I have
> always felt that Bowman was really in charge of personnel decisions. As
> soon as Bowman leaves, possibly within a couple weeks I will start to
> analyze Holland.
Scotty will leave if the Wings don't make a determined effort to go upward
and strengthen things, rather than rebuild. I doubt Scotty wants any part of
a serious non-contender.
>
> Here is my list of players that have to go or be traded:
> Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
> washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
> or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
> all time.
Yep, those second leading team scorers in history suck.....if they aren't
first, fuck 'em....
> Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
> the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
> shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
> Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
He never seems to be what he should be, but with the front-loaded salary,
he's already pretty much paid for...if you can't get an assload of talent
for him, it makes financial sense to keep him.And he wasn't any worse than
anyone else to speak of.
> Pat Verbeek-He gives 100% every night but he is just too old and slow.
The Wings'll certainly keep an older, semi-regular or tow, better Verbeek
(who played his ass off last night) than Brown, or Gilchrist.....
> Doug Brown-You Blow!
Bye Doug, thanks for being there now and then.....
> Brent Gilchrist- If you can't score in 50 games, you are useless.
Hmmmmm....keep the old Draper, or the young Draper......bye Brent.....
> Igor Larionov- He was a nice player and I will never forget the time he
> beatup Forsberg. He's 40 years old and he should retire.
He won't, he's still better than 2/3 of what could replace him, and he
should be kept....people dogged Fetisov for being old, but he always made
the right first pass, and would've added more to the team longer than
Murphy. Being old initself isn't a reason to dump Larionov.
> Slava Kozlov- I have no idea what's wrong with this guy. I think its
> time to trade him because he's been only showing up for 10 games a year
> the last few years.
They usually seem to be 10 playoff games. Keeper.
> Larry Murphy-I have never seen a d-man so slow yet effective. Its time
> for him to retire.
I've seen lots of d-men effective when the puck lands directly on their
stick. They should retire Murph, then erect a statue of him out front of the
Joe.....no, wait....just let Murphy stand there, same thing, really.....
> Todd Gill-He had a Norris Trophy type season and then in the playoffs
> the real Todd Gill showed up. Bye
Gill was decent in the first few games, then the broken foot caught up to
him. Keep him, with the thought of ditching him if greater talent is
available.
> Steve Duschene-I have never liked him. He is a Paul Coffey clone who
> doesn't play defense. Its time to get rid of him.
Nah, he didn't score into the Wings goal, and he at least still has a vague
idea that he is supposed to play defense.
> Chris Chelios-What a loser this clown is. I heard a rumor that the
> Wings will trade him back to Chicago for his final year next year.
I've never understood why Chelios is still veiwed as a top d-man, when
watching him, he sure isn't. Most of the roughest, most shaky moments the
Wings had in their own zone this season seemed to occur when Chelly was on
the ice. He seems reluctant to hit if he doesn't initiate the contact, and
he can't clear the puck like he once did. Even Murphy adjusted his game to
accomodate his declining skills, Chelios, on the other hand, seems blind to
his decline. Unforetunately, I'm betting after Larry's gone, Chelly gets to
play the position of Murphy next season.
> PLEASE!!! We'll even throw in a draft pick with him to get rid of him.
> Ken Wregget-The reason why we can't score 5 on 5 is because of this
> guy. The players score so easily on him in practice that they think
> they are good. Needed a laugh.
> Kirk Maltby-What I said about Kozlov applies to him. Hasn't shown up
> since 98.
If you expect him to be Yzerman-no, hes washed up, sorry- Mario Lemeuix,
well, yeah, he failed miserably. But, he skates, he hits, he gives the
occasional goal. He's no where near memorable, but if he's affordable, keep
him.
> Martin Lapointe- This moron decides to show up to play this year because
> his contract is up, yet the true Lapointe shows up in the playoffs. He
> is going to be a $4mil/year mistake wherever he goes.
LaPointe, McCarty, and Shanny seem to be almost a tri-fecta of the same
basic player, with Shanny still ahead, as the role model they should aspire
to. Keep two of 'em, one of them still being Shanny, say goodbye to one of
the others. Flip a coin.
>
> Draper,
Hmmmmm....keep the young Gilchrist, or the old Gilchrist...
> McCarty,
See LaPointe
Butsayev, Deveraux, Holmstrom,
Shanahan,
see LaPointe
Lidstrom,
Beg, plead, offer to wash his car hourly, just keep him.
Dandenault,
I've never seen much point to having him, other than versitality, but I've
never seen much harm in having him either.
> Fischer,
The future of the Red Wings defense, as long as he keeps developing. Might
even ( alongshot) be as close to Vladdie(someday) as the Wings have had
since the accident.
Ward,
If it comes down to Gill or Ward, keep Ward.
Kuznetsov,
Hopefully, a good part of the Wings future too, with a nice healthy mean
streak. Like to see him bulk up a bit. Imagine this bastard being LaPointe
built.
Osgood,
As much as I sometimes hate him, he sure can't be blamed for this playoff
mess. Sure wouldn't be my first pick in net, but until you can actually get
decidely better, stick with him.
Legace,
Keep him too. Platoon them all season. Unless you can do better, then dump
the expensive guy.
Williams.
. This team won't stay down
> for long though. Mike Illitch has always spent the money on this team
> and has always acquired the best coaches and players.
Illitch's pizza biz isn't making the cash it once did, and the Tigers are
still a drain. If the Wings can't make a few semi-quick improvments, I can
see them going to rebuilding mode. I don't think they'd suck, just move into
more of a middle of the pack, borderline playoff team level for 3-4 years.
>
>
>
>
Hoser
"WalkinDude" <walk...@nospam.usa.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:59:52 GMT, Mike <sk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Here is my list of players that have to go or be traded:
> >Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
> >washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
> >or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
> >all time.
>
> Mike, I couldn't agree with you less. He hasn't been missing playoff
> time because of nagging injuries. These have been freak, late-season
> injuries (i.e. the broken ankle in the Flyer game). He's still
> Detroit's best all-around player and he will retire a Red Wing. As
> someone who started following this team before 1997, I can tell you
> it's very important to me that he retire in that Winged Wheel without
> ever donning anyone else's uniform. Call me overly sentimental
season so he's fresh for the playoffs and injury-free.
> >Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
> >the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
> >shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
> >Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
>
> Horseshit. The rest of the team disappeared right along with him.
> Before that, he was the team's best player. He's also the only
> reliable star they have come playoff time.
Yeah, isn't he theoverall highest scoring player in the post-season for the
last 5 yrs or something like that?
That said, he still has trade value. That'll change the more he keeps having
guys like Maltby and Brown as linemates.
> >Igor Larionov- He was a nice player and I will never forget the time he
> >beatup Forsberg. He's 40 years old and he should retire.
>
> He'll play another year and he'll more than likely do it in Detroit.
IF he plays, yes. Who knows? He might retire.
> >Larry Murphy-I have never seen a d-man so slow yet effective. Its time
> >for him to retire.
>
> In Murph's defense, he was probably the Wings' 2nd best d-man this
> postseason. In fact, that sums up half the problem this postseason.
Christ, if he loses another step in the off season he'll be going in
reverse.
Been nice havin' ya Muph. Bye.
> >Steve Duschene-I have never liked him. He is a Paul Coffey clone who
> >doesn't play defense. Its time to get rid of him.
Only problem is , I believe he has a no-trade clause.
> >Kirk Maltby-What I said about Kozlov applies to him. Hasn't shown up
> >since 98.
>
> He played just about as well as everyone else. If you're expecting
> him to pick up the scoring load, you're going to be disappointed.
Call me a fuckin' homer, I don't care. I like Maltby. He doesn't have much
talent, but he usually shows up to play. Also, what could you get for him?
... Yeah, I thought so.
> >Martin Lapointe- This moron decides to show up to play this year because
> >his contract is up, yet the true Lapointe shows up in the playoffs. He
> >is going to be a $4mil/year mistake wherever he goes.
>
> If we can get him for $2 to $2.5 mil a year, go for it. Anything
> higher, let him leave and use the money elsewhere.
Agreed.
> >Holmstrom,
>
> One of the young bright spots on an aging team.
If for nothing else, he shows up every game to get the living shit kicked
out of him in front of the net and seems to enjoy it.
> >Lidstrom,
>
> Aside from being the best defenseman in hockey, he sucks.
Haha.
> >Dandenault,
>
> Added scoring and hitting to his game this year. He'll be a solid 2
> pairing guy for a long time.
Only thing about Dandenault is I don't think he remembers which posistion
he's playing which game. This is mostly Bowmans fault. If he remembers that
he's on defense it won't be too bad.
> >Fischer,
>
> Sure, he had some rough spots in the playoffs this year. He's the
> future cornerstone of the defense. He hits like a ton of bricks, is
> getting more responsible defensively, is already one of the best
> outlet passers on the team and, when he learns how to get his shot
> through from the point, could turn out to be a very complete player.
Even though he played like crap at times in the playoffs, it was still good
to see him get some playoff experience. He should have had some already from
last year though...
> >Osgood,
>
> As well as he played, bad first goals in games 5 and 6 were killers.
> Can't blame the loss on him, though. He played well. This team
> wouldn't have won with Patty Roy in net (who, incidentally, played
> worse than Osgood in round 1, but had the benefit of capable
> teammates).
He's been playing fairly well in the playoffs the last few years. Use Legace
for most of the regular season, start osgood come playoff time.
> >Legace,
>
> You can't let him go until he proves he doesn't belong. So far, all
> he's done is win.
See above.
> >Williams.
>
> If given ice time and some decent linemates, he'll start racking up
> points next year. He's solid on defense and is even willing to hit a
> little. He was an absolute free agent steal.
Nice to see him get some experience as well, hope he's on the team fulltime
next year.
-Hoser
Mike
slackr wrote:
> In message <3AE5B09A...@hotmail.com>
> dated Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:59:52 GMT
> Dumbfuck <sk...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Steve Yzerman- I know some of the homers will jump on me but this guy is
> >washed up and is not worth $8 mil a year. He needs to retire in dignity
> >or take a pay cut. He is by far the most over hyped Red Wing player of
> >all time.
>
> what? Yzerman, overhyped? yeesh, catch a clue, fuckwit. we'll take him
> in Dallas. hell, he could even play second line here.
He'll probably play on the 5th line?
>
>
> >Sergei Federov-I have always defended him but I can't anymore. When its
> >the biggest game of the year and all you can produce is a -2 with 0
> >shots on goal. That is sad. I think we should trade him to the
> >Islanders before Mike Milbury leaves.
>
> another guy i'd love to see in Dallas. how about a package deal?
>
> geez Mike, you seem to be talking the loss pretty hard. grow the fuck
> up and get a life, it's just a hoky game.
>
> slackr
I posted the same exact thing last year....
-Mike
palooka
>few moments ago palooka <grrro...@hotmail.com> accidently wrote:
>
>: Big fucking deal. In Detroit, he's eating up a roster spot. Until the
>: Primadonna starts playing like he SHOULD, he's just using air that a
>: hard working player could be using. Hell, I would rather have another
>: Maltby that would go out and play with HEART than to have a "potential
>: league MVP" shining the bench with his ass and skating around like a
>: lost puppy in the playoffs.
>
>Don't mess with two-time Selke winners, Palooka.
Fuck em. If they quit trying, they are shite.
>
>Although pretty much floater in the offensive end (ain't everyone but
>Holmstrom), he still belongs to my team based on his defensive play. And
>with his point totals from last five years, he's nearing my limits for
>quality players all the time (30 points a season max.) :-).
Your team must suck a moose cock.
>
>And another point: he's not a _potential_ league MVP. He's a _former_
>league MVP.
And ? You mean you don't think he has the potential to be again?
>
>Hmm, maybe they should convert him to defenseman for good? Or for that
>matter, all of them... for a roster with 18 defensemen. Those not
>applicable for conversion would of course have to be traded for real
>defensemen. Yeah, sounds like a plan.
Sounds like you have been smoking the carrots again.
Palooka
palooka
>Even that slug Fedorov has a better PPG in the playoffs (135,
>44+97=141). Yzerman must really have NO heart.
You let Sergei play as long as Stevie has, THEN talk to me.
>
>Sorry, I'm in bad mood and couldn't resist.
PMS? Resist what? You act like you said something that will crush me
or something. You didn't say anything, as far as Im concerned.
>
>I love 'em both. Even if they score a way too much.
Yeah, well you can't suck their dick, so don't even think about it.
Jay the alcoholic has that job all wrapped up.
Palooka
palooka
>few moments ago palooka <grrro...@hotmail.com> accidently wrote:
>: On 25 Apr 2001 11:34:49 GMT, Santeri Pienimaki <san...@iki.fi> wrote:
>
>:>Even that slug Fedorov has a better PPG in the playoffs (135,
>:>44+97=141). Yzerman must really have NO heart.
>
>: You let Sergei play as long as Stevie has, THEN talk to me.
>
>Actually, his PPG went UP this season, again, so your point is a moot
>one.
Since neither of their careers are over yet, it is NOT a moot point.
>
>Most propably Fedorov will end up with a better career PPG for the
>playoffs than Yzerman (which BTW has nothing to do with the fact that
>80's sucked). Heck, it seems he'll end up with more _points_ in the
>playoffs than Yzerman for his career (_because_ 80's sucked).
probably schmobably. We will see.
>
>:>I love 'em both. Even if they score a way too much.
>
>: Yeah, well you can't suck their dick, so don't even think about it.
>: Jay the alcoholic has that job all wrapped up.
>
>You make me smile. Shit, you're a horrible person, Palooka.
Horrible people make you smile? Is that why I saw you parked at the
elementary school with a box of lolipops and a towel across your lap?
Palooka
palooka
>
>:>Actually, his PPG went UP this season, again, so your point is a moot
>:>one.
>
>: Since neither of their careers are over yet, it is NOT a moot point.
>
>The play of Sergei should slip a great deal to get his PPG in the
>playoffs under 1.
>
>And if the Wings start rebuilding and suck for the next ten years or he
>gets traded to, say Islanders, there might be no chance to even add any
>games to that total.
That is one factor that could be in your favor. Hell, the Wings might
not even make the playoffs for the last few years of Stevie's career.
I doubt that, but it's possible.
>
>:>You make me smile. Shit, you're a horrible person, Palooka.
>
>: Horrible people make you smile? Is that why I saw you parked at the
>: elementary school with a box of lolipops and a towel across your lap?
>
>What you saw was my secret twin Harry, who's a capitalist carnivore. He
>escaped the local commie regime and now lives in the US. We all hate
>him.
Don't you hate those secret twins? I have one that wanks off in front
of Catholic Schools.....gets me in trouble all the time.
Palooka
Thomas Wharry
palooka wrote:
>
> >
> >:>You make me smile. Shit, you're a horrible person, Palooka.
> >
> >: Horrible people make you smile? Is that why I saw you parked at the
> >: elementary school with a box of lolipops and a towel across your lap?
> >
> >What you saw was my secret twin Harry, who's a capitalist carnivore. He
> >escaped the local commie regime and now lives in the US. We all hate
> >him.
>
> Don't you hate those secret twins? I have one that wanks off in front
> of Catholic Schools.....gets me in trouble all the time.
The sickest thing I ever heard was this guy who fills up a squirt gun with
his semen, then goes and shoots it on kids at elementary schools.
What on Earth would make someone think of doing something like that?
-Thomas
hypnotist
> The sickest thing I ever heard was this guy who fills up a squirt gun with
> his semen, then goes and shoots it on kids at elementary schools.
>
> What on Earth would make someone think of doing something like that?
>
the Hypnotist
Thomas Wharry
hypnotist wrote:
The context of the discussion. Duh.
-Thomas
palooka
<hypno...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> The sickest thing I ever heard was this guy who fills up a squirt gun with
>> his semen, then goes and shoots it on kids at elementary schools.
THAT *IS* sick. I only do that in movie theaters.
Palooka
Thomas Wharry
palooka wrote:
Must be tough to rub one out to a Pokeyman movie then...
-Thomas
palooka
wrote:
Nah, that Pikachu is one sexy Yellow bastard.
Palooka
Thomas Wharry
palooka wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:28:38 -0400, Thomas Wharry <twh...@umich.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >palooka wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:26:47 -0400, "hypnotist"
> >> <hypno...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> The sickest thing I ever heard was this guy who fills up a squirt gun with
> >> >> his semen, then goes and shoots it on kids at elementary schools.
> >>
> >> THAT *IS* sick. I only do that in movie theaters.
> >
> >Must be tough to rub one out to a Pokeyman movie then...
> >
> >-Thomas
>
> Nah, that Pikachu is one sexy Yellow bastard.
No, I prefer....uhhh.....hmmm...OK, I admit, I dont know squat about Pokeyman.
But that pink Power Ranger was hot.
-Thomas
hypnotist
palooka <grrro...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If your mind got any more twisted, it would look like a pretzel
the Hypnotist