Dafoe= sieve
Shannon
two goals on 3 shots!
Dana Pretzer
Now that's play off goaltending..
:(
NOT.
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Really if he is so bad why does the team have a winning record while he
plays?
This team has 1 line + big Joe and it has 2 count em 2 NHL level D-men yet
Lord Byron has a decent GAA , save% and win %. If this team was any good at
all he would probably be top 5 in all categories.
Just because you have decided to blame Dafoe for the piss poor talent
assembled by Sinden and O'Connell does not mean that he suck's.
DMC
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Shannon
year in a career!
Will you Dafoe apologists explain exactly what Dafoe has won in his whole
career?
Has he ever won a playof series? How about a playoff game?
The great goalies can carry a team, and Dafoe isn't one of them!
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120 losses.
That doesn't impress me.
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Clarky
your making assumptions due to the fact that you hate the guy and you wont
look at things with an open mind.
Fact- there are only so many good goalies to go around.
Fact-Dafoe was a career back up before he got to Boston and now he is an
adequate starter.
Fact-What has CuJo won and he is considered top 5 in the NHL??
Fact-Lord Byron had a great year with Burn's when the over all talent on the
team was better than it is now.
Fact-Roy, Broadur ( sp ), Hasik, Kolzig and CuJo will never play for the B's
because the B's don't pay 6 mil a year to any one.
Fact-When Harry got Ranford he could have had Cujo but he was un willing to
pay CuJo the back pay he wanted also if that deal had happened we would not
have Allison and Gurin ( sp ) now.
Fact- Lord Byron is the best goalie the B's will pay for and no one has yet
made a logical suggestion as to who the B's should go out and get if they
don't believe Dafoe is the guy.
Fact- You like to flap your gum's about the guy but you refuse to look at
the talent around him and you ignore the fact that the team is even worse
when he is not playing.
Fact- The B's only scored 2 goals yet again no matter how bad or good the
goal tending is 2 goals = zero point's ( %90 of the time )
DMC
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Dana Pretzer
3 goals on 4 shots isn't good enough for bush league play.
And I don't mean George W ??
:)
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minder in the organization who is better??
None thought so.
Name one goilie the B's could have made a trade for who is better than Dafoe
and would be making the kind of money the B's would pay??
I'm waiting!
DMC
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James
Dana Pretzer <bruin...@sk.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Dafoe's poor first period may cost the Bruins the playoffs.
> 3 goals on 4 shots isn't good enough for bush league play.
> And I don't mean George W ??
>
Not to say that Dafoe's play in the beginning of the game wasn't crap, but
if they miss the playoffs, they'll have more to blame than the first four
minutes of the 'Av's game, such as 0-fer against Atlanta and not playing up
to their capabilities against most other sub-.500 teams.
James
Dana Pretzer
I stand corrected.
I just feel the loss today may be the final nail in the coffin, I hope I am
wrong.
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Doug Norris
>When I say Dafoe sucks, I am looking at his whole career. He had one good
>year in a career!
Actually, we proved that wrong in another thread. A thread which you've
carefully chosen to avoid since.
Doug
Doug Norris
>I'm listening to the game now. Sounds like Dafoe sucks worse than ever! 0-2
>two goals on 3 shots!
Should have posted *after* the game; he looked pretty good, and I'm an
Avalanche fan.
BTW, thanks for not responding to those of us that tore apart your
"statistical arguments". Coward.
Doug
Donald Diswinka
Then you better take a good long hard look at that year cause it was the
last year that the Bruins had any type of decent defence. IT would be an
indicator of what Dafoe could do for you if he got some decent support.
In fact if Dafoe would have had some decent defence he might not have been
hurt that much this year.
A more appropriate question would be what has the BRUINS team won lately???
How many playoff games have they won lately ----zippo
So why is it Dafoes fault, all of a sudden, if they don't make the playoffs,
(which they won't) heck he hasn't even been here most of the season. The
team has been showing up when they feel like all year long now everyone is
saying ( players, coach's and fans) its up to Dafoe to lead them to the
playoffs. The players , coach's, and management should have gotten off their
asses and gotten their shit together first. So why not crap over guys who
have played 30+ games and havent contributed very much to the offence--
before you crap all over a goalie who hasn't even played here all year.
Goalies, even the best, have bad days.
You can't carry the 5 guys standing around doing nothing on the ice in front
of you.
NO goalie ever has!! ITS called a TEAM game.
If you want someone to crap on you better look at management. THEY did
NOTHING to improve this team defence over last year beyond getting Eric W.
Don
in article J57v6.82479$Ch.11...@typhoon.we.rr.com, Shannon at
shan...@att.net wrote on 3/24/01 12:04 PM:
> When I say Dafoe sucks, I am looking at his whole career. He had one good
> year in a career!
> Will you Dafoe apologists explain exactly what Dafoe has won in his whole
> career?
> Has he ever won a playof series? How about a playoff game?
> The great goalies can carry a team, and Dafoe isn't one of them!
>
>snip
>>
Donald Diswinka
I fully agree with your fair and accurate assessment.
Don
in article y68v6.456510$Pm2.7...@news20.bellglobal.com, Clarky at
pair-a...@sympatico.ca wrote on 3/24/01 1:14 PM:
> Well Shannon I never said he was my hero nor am I an apologist for Dafoe
> your making assumptions due to the fact that you hate the guy and you wont
> look at things with an open mind.
>
> Fact- there are only so many good goalies to go around.
>
> Fact-Dafoe was a career back up before he got to Boston and now he is an
> adequate starter.
>
> Fact-What has CuJo won and he is considered top 5 in the NHL??
>
> Fact-Lord Byron had a great year with Burn's when the over all talent on the
> team was better than it is now.
>
> Fact-Roy, Broadur ( sp ), Hasik, Kolzig and CuJo will never play for the B's
> because the B's don't pay 6 mil a year to any one.
>
> Fact-When Harry got Ranford he could have had Cujo but he was un willing to
> pay CuJo the back pay he wanted also if that deal had happened we would not
> have Allison and Gurin ( sp ) now.
>
> Fact- Lord Byron is the best goalie the B's will pay for and no one has yet
> made a logical suggestion as to who the B's should go out and get if they
> don't believe Dafoe is the guy.
>
> Fact- You like to flap your gum's about the guy but you refuse to look at
> the talent around him and you ignore the fact that the team is even worse
> when he is not playing.
>
> Fact- The B's only scored 2 goals yet again no matter how bad or good the
> goal tending is 2 goals = zero point's ( %90 of the time )
>
> DMC
>
>
>snip
Doug Reynolds
team. Crediting goalies with wins and losses doesn't make any more sense
than crediting any other players with wins and losses. Most of the time, as
you may have noticed, there are six players on the ice for each team. Why
single out the goalie as the "winning" or "losing" player?
Doug
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This season got away with the crappy play early in the season with Kay
Whitmore and Co in goal. Gave away too many games in the first 25
outings. The whole goal tending situation has been a comedy of
errors. Dafoe, a top ten goalie when he's healthy but surprisingly
fragile this season. Grahame, the pre season injury and inconsistancy
upon return. I swear, the 'book' is out on him, he is a fraction of a
second slow when he drops butterfly, his stick is off the ice for a
brief second before his knees hit the ice ... the result is a 5 hole
goal time and again when good shooters aim accordingly. Skudra ... a
more than acceptable back up who, after the new year, has not played
well. Maybe they just squeeze into the play offs this season, maybe
not ... they now have a great corps of front line players, need to
dump the dead wood, pay the big bucks for one or two defensemen to add
to the 'Weinrich acqusition and hope that Defoe remains healthy ( and
maybe loses 5 or 10 pounds in off season ... take strain off knee).
Grahame needs to grows up and work on the 5 hole timing.
Doing this, we can look forward to making it at least into the second
round of playoffs next year.
Asuka
never get a reasonable retort from you for a counter point.
-A
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the NHL. If you can't (like the Pgh game, and the Avs game, etc,etc), it's
pointless to blame the goaltender.
And of course you can't score more than 2 goals a game if the coach insists on
giving ice time to stiffs like Kovalenko....
Mark
John McE
>OMG 1 bad start and Dafoe= sieve.
>Really if he is so bad why does the team have a winning record while he
>plays?
>This team has 1 line + big Joe and it has 2 count em 2 NHL level D-men yet
>Lord Byron has a decent GAA , save% and win %. If this team was any good at
>all he would probably be top 5 in all categories.
>Just because you have decided to blame Dafoe for the piss poor talent
>assembled by Sinden and O'Connell does not mean that he suck's.
>
>DMC
>
9 seconds in 30 footer while the guy is falling down, you give us a reason why that was not dafoe's
fault. that has nothing to do with the teams talent, that is just a solid back breaker
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Paul Dalrymple
> By this logic, I guess it's not possible to have a good goalie on a bad
> team. Crediting goalies with wins and losses doesn't make any more sense
> than crediting any other players with wins and losses. Most of the time,
as
> you may have noticed, there are six players on the ice for each team. Why
> single out the goalie as the "winning" or "losing" player?
The same way they "credit"/fault" pitchers in baseball with wins &
losses...
this argument comes up frequently, esp. when they look at run support. The
pitcher can't score any runs and you have to score to win. He can try his
best to prevent the opposition from scoring, but as you say, it's a team
effort.
Kristy Gleason
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>
> 9 seconds in 30 footer while the guy is falling down, you give us a
reason why that was not dafoe's
> fault. that has nothing to do with the teams talent, that is just a solid
back breaker
Where were the defensemen PREVENTING Sakic from even getting the shot off in
the first place? They weren't defending, that's for sure.
Paul Dalrymple
> The same way they "credit"/fault" pitchers in baseball with wins &
> losses...
> this argument comes up frequently, esp. when they look at run support. The
> pitcher can't score any runs and you have to score to win. He can try his
> best to prevent the opposition from scoring, but as you say, it's a team
> effort.
It isn't right to reply to your own posts, but... looking back at that,
I
should have included "With a DH rule" in regards to the pitcher not being
"able" to score.
Being an A.L. fan all my life, I forgot to mention it. :)
John McE
the dmen can't prevent every shot from hittting the net, the guy had is man off balance when he
shot it and he had him to the outside.
Doug Norris
>9 seconds in 30 footer while the guy is falling down, you give us a reason
>why that was not dafoe's fault.
You're arguing against strawmen - no one ever said that that goal *wasn't*
his fault. *All* NHL goalies let in bad goals, just as all goalies at every
level let in bad goals. The good ones recover and, after the first four
minutes, Dafoe played pretty damn well, and gave the Bruins a chance to
win the game.
Finally, watch your line lengths.
Doug
Clarky
blue line in ??
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CYoung
when Sakic broke in and scored. He received the puck off the face-off and
got his stick knocked out of his hands. He seemed to be more concerned with
retrieving it than jumping into the play. Granted Dafoe should've been able
to stop that shot, but had Eric gotten back into position, there's no way
Sakic would've gotten a clean shot off.
-- CYoung
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Shannon
Dafoe ranks #16 in GAA
Dafoe not in top 20 for save %age.
In other words, Dafoe is barely a top 20 goalie THIS YEAR.
I say get rid of him ASAP before we are stuck with him long term!
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year, which happened to be his contract year. Just proves he only turns it
up a notch when he feels like it.
He obviously couldn't care less if teh B's make the playoffs based on that
first shot by Sakic!
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Didn't even try for him, did we? T.B gave up next to nothing for him!
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they aren't based on facts, just illusions!
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Shannon
Dafoe wasn't ready to play.
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Shannon
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DMC
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Joe Macias
> Nicholi Khabibulin!
>
> Didn't even try for him, did we? T.B gave up next to nothing for him!
>
That would be because TB has nothing proven to give up, had the B's gave it
a shot they would have asked for either Joe or Sammy.
Joe Macias
> No, Dafoe has never been a good goalie on ANY team, except for that one
> year, which happened to be his contract year. Just proves he only turns it
> up a notch when he feels like it.
>
> He obviously couldn't care less if teh B's make the playoffs based on that
> first shot by Sakic!
>
>
This will be the third topic I will have replied about constructed by you...
Actually he had two decent years with the Bruins. 97-98 and 98-99, both 30
Win seasons with good GAA and SV%.
Joe Macias
> after he blows this game today, your hero has a career record of 120 wins
> 120 losses.
> That doesn't impress me.
Wins and losses are not an accurate description of how a goaltender plays,
don't forget, he did play with LA in it's rebuilding stages.
Doug Norris
>Do you mean he looked pretty good after or before he blew the game?
Why do you even come in here? You don't want to argue; you just want
to shout and shout and BLAH BLAH BLAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU type crap.
I can guarantee that I know a hell of a lot more about goaltending than
you do.
Doug
Doug Norris
>you haven't proven anything. I'm only ignoring your other messages because
>they aren't based on facts, just illusions!
You're ignoring my other messages because You Can't Argue.
Re-read if necessary.
Doug
Doug Norris
>No, Dafoe has never been a good goalie on ANY team, except for that one
>year
We've actually proven this statement *wrong* (1997-98, 1998-99 to name two),
so you're not allowed to say it anymore.
Doug
Justin Richards
Shannon wrote:
> Nicholi Khabibulin!
>
> Didn't even try for him, did we? T.B gave up next to nothing for him!
I've brought this point up in here before...why the hell would we want to trade
for a goalie who had not seen any NHL action in nearly two years? That trade
would have been nothing short of foolish, and I'm sure there are others in here
that agree with me there.
Now, since you, as you said in an earlier post, were listening to the game on
radio (I was lucky enough to be there), did not see any of the goals that were
scored on Dafoe, so I'll give you my take on them.
First goal: Weinrich turns the puck over in the neutral zone, Sakic breaks in
alone, beats Dafoe with a wrist shot, five hole. Now, of the four goals
Colorado scored, I think Dafoe would like to have this one back, but on the
other hand, he was facing arguably the best shooter in the NHL.
Second goal: Bruins lose the faceoff in their own end, Bourque takes a shot from
the point, it gets blocked...the B's are unable to clear the puck, Parker gets
it, passes it to Dan Hinote who is standing ALL ALONE in front of the net, and
has an easy goal.
Third goal: Avs on the power play, B's squander many attempts to clear the zone,
some nice passing sets up Drury in the slot, he one times it into the net.
Fourth goal: B's once again lose the faceoff in their own zone. Skoula takes a
shot from the point, Dafoe saves, rebound to the corner...Podein comes around
from behind the net, sets up Steven Reinprecht who is wide open to take the pass
and score.
So that's three of the four goals that I think we can blame on inept defense in
the B's zone, not inept goaltending from Dafoe.
Now, this is one thing that I have noticed, when Skudra and Grahame were
playing, no one ever bashed them for letting a soft goal in...but as soon as a
single puck gets by Dafoe, people like you are ready to blame him for the team's
struggles and want him traded for someone who hasn't played in two years.
Now if you ask me, Dafoe has been a bright spot (when healthy) on an otherwise
disappointing and underacheiving team.
Anyway, that's my take on things...
Justin
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Shannon wrote:
> When I say Dafoe sucks, I am looking at his whole career. He had one good
> year in a career!
> Will you Dafoe apologists explain exactly what Dafoe has won in his whole
> career?
> Has he ever won a playof series? How about a playoff game?
> The great goalies can carry a team, and Dafoe isn't one of them!
>
For your information, Dafoe has won eight playoff games, and one playoff series,
which was two years ago vs. Carolina.
Kristy Gleason
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> after he blows this game today, your hero has a career record of 120 wins
> 120 losses.
> That doesn't impress me.
>
sucks doesn't impress me (and likely many other people here) either. Do
you bash Dafoe just to bash him or is there something deeper here that's
causing you to spout such disdaining things about him?
Hockey is a team sport in case you forgot. If the goaltender gets little or
no support in front of him, he's not going to be able to stop every shot.
No goalie can (not even Hasek or Roy).
The defense has been porous pretty much all season long, and the Avalanche
exploited that in the first five minutes of Saturday's game. One of their
goals (it was either the second or third goal) was a mirror image of the
goal that Thornton had from Samsonov... pass across the crease and in the
net before the 'tender could slide over to block it.
Cal and Nell Carpenter
miserable life you must have had with nothing to complain about during that
year!!!!!!!
Shannon <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
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> When I say Dafoe sucks, I am looking at his whole career. He had one good
> year in a career!
> Will you Dafoe apologists explain exactly what Dafoe has won in his whole
> career?
> Has he ever won a playof series? How about a playoff game?
> The great goalies can carry a team, and Dafoe isn't one of them!
>
> "Clarky" <pair-a...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> > OMG 1 bad start and Dafoe= sieve.
> > Really if he is so bad why does the team have a winning record while he
> > plays?
> > This team has 1 line + big Joe and it has 2 count em 2 NHL level D-men
yet
> > Lord Byron has a decent GAA , save% and win %. If this team was any good
> at
> > all he would probably be top 5 in all categories.
> > Just because you have decided to blame Dafoe for the piss poor talent
> > assembled by Sinden and O'Connell does not mean that he suck's.
> >
> > DMC
> >
> > --
> > Live Long and Prosper,
> > Peace and Long Life
> > "Shannon" <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
Cal and Nell Carpenter
most of us realize this in itself would have boosted his numbers higher you
somehow still fail to catch that simple fact. Let's analyze some much more
telling numbers. Here they are.
Byron Dafoe 38 2113 2.36 17 12 7 1 83 888 .907 0 1 6
Andrew Raycroft 15 647 2.97 4 6 0 0 32 291 .890 0 0 0
Peter Skudra 25 1113 3.34 6 12 1 0 62 511 .879 0 0 0
John Grahame 10 470 3.57 3 4 0 0 28 211 .867 0 0 2
Kay Whitmore 5 204 5.29 1 2 0 0 18 94 .809 0 0 0
Bos Totals 75 4566 3.04 31 36 8 8 1 231 2003 .885
HMMM Dafoe is 17-12-7 this year. His GAA is very respectable at 2.36 and his
save % is .907 again respectable by any standards you could use. Now just
for fun let's see if any goalie on this team is even CLOSE to Dafoe in any
of the categories I mentioned. Let's see Dafoe is the only goalie above .500
for wins okay one. Two The closest save % is Raycroft at .890 that is
considerably lower than Dafoe don't you suppose??? Next let's take GAA the
closest is again Raycroft at 2.97. Again at first glance this is
considerable higher than Dafoe's numbers. What do those numbers tell you? I
also in fairness to you wanted to throw in another set of numbers and see
what you can make of it. Here they are.
94-95 8-9-4 3.41
95-96 26-20-3 3.13
96-97 30-33-6 2.83
97-98 30-28-10 2.74
98-99 32-23-7 2.13
What are those numbers Shannon??? They are Khabibulan's career numbers. This
terrible year of Dafoe's is better than every year Khabibulan has played
except one. And if you want to compare apples to apples, which I do, go look
up Dafoe's numbers for that year. You'll find he had a sub 2.00 GAA. So why
would you want him over Dafoe. Speaking of one good year, hmmm look at the
numbers Shannon anything stick out at you. He had one very good year and
wham 2 year holdout. Yeah just the guy we want in net, in a playoff stretch
to boot. Your problem is you are so blindly anti Dafoe it is sickening. You
have come in here and spouted and ranted about your feelings for Dafoe and
totally ignored any common sense arguments anyone has presented to the
contrary. I'm not sure why you hate Dafoe and truthfully I really don't
care.As I stated in the pas tthe best the Bruins can do is keep him thru
next year (end of his deal) while tutoring Raycroft and then see is Raycroft
is ready to stand on his own at the end of next season. I haven't heard you
come up with a better plan and I will therefore be left to
assume..........you don't have one.
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playing the past two years.
All I'm hearing is that the Bruins SUCK, but Dafoe doesn't
WRONG!
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sieve?
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and last.
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Shannon
Didn't think so.
"Clarky" <pair-a...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> And of coarse none of the super star goalies have ever let a shot from the
> blue line in ??
>
> DMC
>
> --
> Live Long and Prosper,
> Peace and Long Life
> "John McE" <joh...@sympatico.caaa> wrote in message
> news:3abe5399...@news1.qc.sympatico.ca...
> > On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:16:17 -0500, "Kristy Gleason" <kri...@mv.mv.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"John McE" <joh...@sympatico.caaa> wrote in message
> > >news:3abe0d90...@news1.qc.sympatico.ca...
> > >>
> > >> 9 seconds in 30 footer while the guy is falling down, you give us a
> > >reason why that was not dafoe's
> > >> fault. that has nothing to do with the teams talent, that is just a
> solid
> > >back breaker
> > >
> > >Where were the defensemen PREVENTING Sakic from even getting the shot
off
> in
> > >the first place? They weren't defending, that's for sure.
> > >
> > >
> > the dmen can't prevent every shot from hittting the net, the guy had is
> man off balance when he
> > shot it and he had him to the outside.
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > only 1 a on the end of my email address to send me a reply
>
>
Justin Richards
Shannon wrote:
> If we can ever get a decent goalie, the whole team will be better!
>
The Bruins have good goaltending now, whether you want to admit it or not. The
issues that management needs to address are getting a good scoring second line
winger, a checking line center (I miss the Taylor-Axelsson-DiMaio line), and a
good two way defenseman.
Justin Richards
Shannon wrote:
> Hey Bruinboy, get a life. Don't you have anything better to do than defend a
> sieve?
Hey Shannon, get a life, have you nothing better to do than bash our number one
goalie?
John McE
>
>Finally, watch your line lengths.
>
>Doug
what does this mean
Cal and Nell Carpenter
have had to search out and post to show how clueless you are on the subject
of goaltending and hockey in general. That's why it's almost comical that
I'm going to even bother to reply to your skycooke like nonsense. Now of
course if you weren't some johnny come lately spammer you'd get that
inuendo, unless maybe you are skycooke. Anyhew I still don't see your
soloution for the current goaltending situation posted anywhere in here,
just a bunch of ranting.
PS All of all could suggest trading Mikko Eloranta for Hasek or Cujo so
spare that one. And also please don't suggest any other goalies that haven't
touched a puck in 2 years thats too easy. If you got a better way let's hear
it, but you better be ready to defend it's merits, something which you have
done little or none of since your original posts. Hey heres one that should
occupy your time for a bit. What is the B's record since the sieve came
back, and the previuos 10 games?
Cal and Nell Carpenter
he is 17-12 with a 2.36 GAA and a .907 sv %. Which of those numbers do you
base the sucks statement on then? As I posted and you ignored those are
better than every one of Kab's years except one (In which Dafoe was far
better as well)
Shannon <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
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the phattest of all mikes
neuron capacitor caused the following to appear :
>>Finally, watch your line lengths.
>
>what does this mean
you dont wrap your lines at ~74 characaters, therefore some of us cant
see your entire line and/or makes it difficult for us to see your entire
line.
i've warned you in the past, but you ignored me.
to fix it, set your newsreader to wrap at 74 lines on all outgoing posts.
i see you are using agent. to fix this in agent, go to the posting
preferences of the options menu and set the 'line length' to 74.
-mike, who is going to start working on a faq for this group sometime
within the week..
np: plastikman - artifakts [bc]
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John McE
phatmikeCLE...@apathy.ne.mediaone.net (the phattest of all mikes)
wrote:
i thought you meant when i was replying to a post that i did not have to
include the whole post just to answer a certain part of that post. MUST
have misinterpreted your Warning.
the phattest of all mikes
neuron capacitor caused the following to appear :
>i thought you meant when i was replying to a post that i did not have to
>include the whole post just to answer a certain part of that post. MUST
>have misinterpreted your Warning.
either that or the post didnt go through cause my news server is screwy
:)
after posting that i checked my 'sent' folder and it looks like i posted
it when my server was going wonko. its likely the post didnt propagate,
so my apologies.
anyway, your lines look ok now. i can read the whole line, and reply
to your posts without hassle, so thanks.
-mike
np: orbital - snivilisation
Doug Norris
>So he may have had two good years, that is in the past. He sucks this year
>and last.
Then we're agreed that you can never say that Dafoe had "just one good year".
Furthermore, his save percentage is above average this season.
Doug
Doug Norris
>>Finally, watch your line lengths.
>what does this mean
It means to keep the lengths of your lines to 74 characters or less,
because most people read Usenet on an 80-character wide terminal (the
difference is due to the inevitable ">"s that will be added when
replying.)
Doug
Clarky
than the over priced Khabibulin.
What happened Shannon did lord Byron turn you down for an autograph and now
you think he suck's. Your arguments seem to be personal rather than based on
any reality.
DMC
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Live Long and Prosper,
Peace and Long Life
"Shannon" <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
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Clarky
Do you have one??
His save % and GAA are both solid this year so is his win %.
He had a bad year last year yes but the year before was fine.
Before he came to the B's he was a back up.
His numbers as a starter with the B's show him to be a more than adequate #1
goalie.
DMC
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Live Long and Prosper,
Peace and Long Life
"Shannon" <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
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Vaboom
percentage to get a better idea of what kind of year a goalie is
having. A large number of shots on goal per game implies the goalie
has to make many more rebound saves. Hope you make the playoffs.
On 26 Mar 01 20:54:51 GMT, norr...@rintintin.colorado.edu (Doug
Norris) wrote:
VaBoom
Shannon
Casey.
"Justin Richards" <bruin...@nospam.hockeymail.com> wrote in message
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Shannon
Are you still ranting how great the career .500 goalie is?
"Cal and Nell Carpenter" <Brui...@ICI.net> wrote in message
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Shannon
(dafoe) playoffs losses and sweeps suffered? I like the way you avoid
mentioning his losses, evewn though you obviously looked it up and are
aware.
"Justin Richards" <bruin...@nospam.hockeymail.com> wrote in message
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Justin Richards
Shannon wrote:
> I'm still not impressed. Why don't we talk about the forever .500 goalies'
> (dafoe) playoffs losses and sweeps suffered? I like the way you avoid
> mentioning his losses, evewn though you obviously looked it up and are
> aware.
>
Yes, Dafoe does have 12 playoff losses. I was just informing you that he had
in fact won a playoff series. One loss came when he was a member of the
Washington Capitals in 92-93. I don't know who they played that year. The
next four losses were suffered against Paul Devorski (oops, I mean the
Washington Capitals), he lost two games in the series he won against Carolina,
and lost four of six in the next round to Buffalo. His career GAA for the
playoffs is 2.08...but that's not low enough for your liking, is it?
It seems by your logic that goalies are solely responsible for the fate of
their teams. By your logic, goalies should be able to carry the team, no
matter how bad the offense or team defense are. This has been explained to
you by others in this newsgroup, maybe you didn't get it, so I'll attempt to
explain it to you again. Pay attention now...HOCKEY IS A TEAM SPORT!
Goaltending is an extremely important factor in whether a team wins or loses a
game, but offense and defense factor in just as much as goaltending.
Now believe it or not, a goalie cannot stop every shot that comes his way. He
must rely on his defense to clear rebounds, keep forwards away from the front
of the net, and try to minimize the opposition's scoring chances. Now also,
he must rely on his team to score goals, so if God forbid, he lets a goal or
two in, his team still has a chance of winning.
Now I really hope this wasn't too much for you to absorb. Try reading it over
and over again, you might get it then. If this didn't help, there is a book
out there called "Hockey for Dummies", from which you might benefit.
Justin
Asuka
>
> Yes, Dafoe does have 12 playoff losses. I was just informing you that he
had
> in fact won a playoff series. One loss came when he was a member of the
> Washington Capitals in 92-93. I don't know who they played that year.
It was against the Pittsburgh Penguins if I remember my playoff knowledge is
correct. Don Beupre, like many other times of the year, was a sieve against
the Pens.
-A
Asuka
> If we can ever get a decent goalie, the whole team will be better!
>
streaking toward the net might also help too.
-A
Asuka
> > after he blows this game today, your hero has a career record of 120
wins
> > 120 losses.
> > That doesn't impress me.
> >
> That's ok, Shannon. You running/inundating commentary on how badly Dafoe
> sucks doesn't impress me (and likely many other people here) either. Do
> you bash Dafoe just to bash him or is there something deeper here that's
> causing you to spout such disdaining things about him?
>
by Dafoe and never got over it.
-A
Cal and Nell Carpenter
your arrival, go medicate yourself and seek therapy. Maybe Byron beat the
crap out of you in school or something but get the damn hell over it. Your
not going to convince anyone here that Byron should be run out of town ala
'Jon Casey'. In case you haven't bothered to read the group, 99/100 of the
posters here think you're a fool.
Shannon <shan...@att.net> wrote in message
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Krush20
a savior? Dafoe held out for 14-(ish?) games and was crucified in this
newsgroup...Khabibulin held out for nearly 2 years??!! Doesn't that make him
greedy in anyone's eyes? How many playoffs series has he won?
Unbelievable...
Rich
Cal and Nell Carpenter
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Doug Norris
>Are you still ranting how great the career .500 goalie is?
Hey, he's no Jason Labarbera, that's for sure.
Doug
Doug Norris
>Just doing my part to drum up fan support to run him outta town ala John
>Casey.
Who's "John Casey"? Is he related to Jon Casey? Or Jason Labarbera?
Doug
Doug Norris
>I'm still not impressed.
Why should you be? You're still fawning over Jason Labarbera, and his
two saves on two shots!
Doug
Shannon
here.
"Doug Norris" <norr...@rintintin.colorado.edu> wrote in message
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Shannon
"Cal and Nell Carpenter" <Brui...@ICI.net> wrote in message
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Shannon
faggot?
"Doug Norris" <norr...@rintintin.colorado.edu> wrote in message
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Shannon
Nice research job on the losses. Don't get me wrong I love the B's, but have
seen thru that farce of a goaalie Lord Byron since day one. I got to watch
him in L.A. for a few years before the B's made that huge mistake. he sucked
then, ad sucks worse now. Great goalies can make a mediocre team look good.
Byron never does this.
GNN
Shannon
do(lordy)
"Krush20" <kru...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Shannon
"Cal and Nell Carpenter" <Brui...@ICI.net> wrote in message
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Shannon
UNDERSTAND YET?
"Cal and Nell Carpenter" <Brui...@ICI.net> wrote in message
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Ryan Thieme
Too funny. Shannon, you're too obtuse to know when you are being mocked.
Poor thing...
Ryan
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Ryan Thieme
>hey boy....my posts have caused more free speech (replies) than all others.
>UNDERSTAND YET?
>
I think at this point, everyone understands that you are a useless troll
who does very little in the way of presenting an argument.
All that you have done is fill up a number of a.s.h.n.b-b killfiles.
By the way...you've done very little to promote free speech. No one's
right to self expression was ever violated, you paragon of civil rights.
You can go away now.
*PLONK*
Cal and Nell Carpenter
Ryan Thieme <r...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
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Cal and Nell Carpenter
loudmouths like you that ruin it for everyone. I spent over 10 years
defending your right to be an obnoxious asshole, so spare me the commie tag
jackass.
Ryan Thieme <r...@ultranet.com> wrote in message
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Ryan Thieme
wrote:
>I'll second that, "Plonk" (Not sure what it means but sounds good to me!)
>
>
>
*PLONK* == The noise made when yet another senseless nitwit gets added to
someone's killfile.
the phattest of all mikes
capacitor caused the following to appear :
>>I'll second that, "Plonk" (Not sure what it means but sounds good to me!)
>
>*PLONK* == The noise made when yet another senseless nitwit gets added to
>someone's killfile.
alternate - 'please leave our newsgroup -- killfiled'
-mike
np: foodtv
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John McE
wrote:
>joh...@sympatico.caaa (John McE) writes:
>
>>>Finally, watch your line lengths.
>
>>what does this mean
>
>It means to keep the lengths of your lines to 74 characters or less,
>because most people read Usenet on an 80-character wide terminal (the
>difference is due to the inevitable ">"s that will be added when
>replying.)
>
>Doug
fix your computers date
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only 1 a on the end of my email address to send me a reply
Doug Norris
>fix your computers date
It's not my problem, nor can I do anything about it. Smart people would
look at my server information, and realize that the odds of me running
a university server are very slim, indeed. Please tell me that you're not
one of the "other people".
Doug
John McE
wrote:
>joh...@sympatico.caaa (John McE) writes:
maybe a smart prson would get a better isp that would have a normal date
for their postings
Doug Norris
> maybe a smart prson would get a better isp that would have a normal date
>for their postings
Frankly, I am a smart "prson", because I get free internet access through
my university. Furthermore, since it doesn't cause me any problems, maybe a
smart "prson" would learn to deal with it. Tell you what - killfile me if you
don't like it. My apologies if you don't know how to.
Doug