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Travis Morien

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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Hi, I haven't done gymnastics since I was a little kid, and my parents
pulled me out of it at the rolling on the ground stage. Now I do martial
arts, and like every other martial artist would love to be able to learn
tumbling (as much just to show off as anything else.. ;P )

I would love to be able to do flips, handsprings and that move where you
stand up acrobatically from a lying down position.

(sorry if I am sounding like a complete lamo here, I think I know what you
are thinking, it is like when some rank newbie comes into a martial arts
class and asks us to teach him jumping spinning kicks, when he can't even
do his groundwork yet).

I would like to know if it is really too late for me to start learning
tumbling, I am 23, 180cm tall and I weigh 80kg, I have a standard sort of
martial artist build, somewhat different to the scrawney little kids that
I see at the olympics (though I do admire the power of the guys on the
roman rings, incredible strength without bulk). Is it too late for me to
start, was my chance when I was 8 years old and now it is gone???. At
this stage I can jump very high (probably a relative term, but I can
deliver jumping kicks to a target about 2m off the ground) and I can do
semi acrobatic kicks, I can roll on the ground forwards and backwards, I
can breakfall properly and go into a ground roll from a run and then stand
up again, but none of that is quite in the league of doing backflips...I
know.

Are there any good websites that would describe how to do this, so I can
try doing flips into my pool or tumbling on the mats at karate?

Also, can anyone recommend a good gymnastics school in Perth, Western
Australia that would take a big lug like me, hopefully with an adult
beginner class, because i think I'd feel like a bit of a twit being the
only adult in a class of primary schoolers.

(followups to the group ok, I will be checking back, don't email me pls
unless you have something the rest needn't know about)

Travis

Splitz533

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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>and that move where you
>stand up acrobatically from a lying down position.

This a neck kip:-) Timing is most crirical not a difficult skill.


>(sorry if I am sounding like a complete lamo here, I think I know what you
>are thinking, it is like when some rank newbie comes into a martial arts
>class and asks us to teach him jumping spinning kicks, when he can't even
>do his groundwork yet).
>

NOT at all!!! I think you will find a lot of coaches and gymnasts here
helpful........

>I would like to know if it is really too late for me to start learning
>tumbling, I am 23,

NO, it isnt!! Call local clubs and ask about an adult gymn/tumbling class!! If
you need help finding one in your are, email me, and I may be able to provide
you with links to gyms in your area.


Linda Mac

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Aug 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/17/99
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can anyone recommend a good gymnastics school in Perth, Western
>Australia that would take a big lug like me, hopefully with an adult
>beginner class, because i think I'd feel like a bit of a twit being the
>only adult in a class of primary schoolers.


Consider contacting a local gym and
requesting private lessons with one of
the coaches there.

Our gym would frequently have actors
and others come in for a series of private
essons to learn particular skills.

I am assuming that you have no interest
in events other than tumbling :o)

You should be able to find some help in locating a gym at this internet site.

http://www.ausport.gov.au/gym/home.html


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Travis Morien

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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Linda Mac <lma...@aol.comyourself> wrote:

: I am assuming that you have no interest

: in events other than tumbling :o)

Like what, roman rings and parallel bars? That stuff sounds fun, but for
the time being I'd be happy to learn tumbling, it is just one of those
skills that everyone envies. Even if they aren't such great fighters,
I have seen martial artists do backflips and kips and it just totally
psyches out the opponant, they just assume you must be some absolute
master or something... 8) Maybe if I go along to a few gymnastics classes
I'll just be hooked, and after going in there pecifically wanting to learn
a few skills I'll stay to try to learn the rest...

And thankyou to those who have replied by post and email, I only got very
helpful replies, and someone even invited me along to an adult beginner
tumbling class near where I live... top stuff!

Travis

miriam

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Aug 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/18/99
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In article <7pasrf$qe3$1...@enyo.uwa.edu.au>
Travis Morien <pha...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> writes:

> I would like to know if it is really too late for me to start learning

> tumbling, I am 23, 180cm tall and I weigh 80kg, I have a standard sort of
> martial artist build, somewhat different to the scrawney little kids that
> I see at the olympics (though I do admire the power of the guys on the
> roman rings, incredible strength without bulk). Is it too late for me to
> start, was my chance when I was 8 years old and now it is gone???. At
> this stage I can jump very high (probably a relative term, but I can
> deliver jumping kicks to a target about 2m off the ground) and I can do
> semi acrobatic kicks, I can roll on the ground forwards and backwards, I
> can breakfall properly and go into a ground roll from a run and then stand
> up again, but none of that is quite in the league of doing backflips...I
> know.

Well there's various circus groups that teach tumbling. I started this
weekend (also 180cm, 103Kg (yes I know I'm overweight...) on tumbling
at a juggling convention and learnt acrobalance, a couple of new somies
and all sorts. I'm 20 and relatively fit as well. And I know of a 65
year old that did a double somie on a trampoline for the first time.
Miriam

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Travis Morien

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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I went to a gymnast class last night for the first time, and had a great
time, but can people tell me, is it normal to feel so nausious from the
tumbling?

i still have a bit of a headache, and it has been about 20 hours since I
left the class, toward the end of the class I was just feeling awful, it
was the minitramping onto the big mats and tumbling that did it! I was
unsure if I was going to complete my journey home, I was so dizzy and
disorientated that I felt I was driving under the influence... maybe I'll
have to take a taxi home from class each time or something....

Is the nausia all a part of gymnastics or is it just me, or is it a newbie
thing that you get used to?? I am not totally sure if I'll want to
continue doing gymnastics if it gives me 24hour headaches...

On the other hand, I am almost landing forward somersaults from the
minitramp already! Woohoo! 8) I already knew how to do forward rolls but
now I can do them in the air...

When I made the first post I wasn't really optimistic that I could learn
gymnastics, I figured I'd be told to stop dreaming and get lost, but I
actually think if I go to classes regularly I will eventually be able to
learn acrobatics, not bad considering my limited expectations prior to
that one class.

It was amazing though, there were a few coaches there and they were
playing about, some people were doing capoeira in the corner and they
seemed to be spending as much time upside down in the air as they were on
their feet! Looked like fun!

Travis

Princess Melissa

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Is the nausia all a part of gymnastics or is it just me, or is it a newbie
thing that you get used to?? I am not totally sure if I'll want to
continue doing gymnastics if it gives me 24hour headaches...>>>>>>

I've heard assorted things about this. I personally never experienced nausea
doing gymnastics (at least not so far), and I was always one of those kids who
got sick if I rode the Tilt-A-Whirl too many times at the fair. If you are
naturally motion sick, however, that could have something to do with it. Also,
gymnastics is a fairly anaerobic activity, and that combined with all the
flipping and turning could definitely effect your equilibrium and give you a
headache. I have always told kids who get dizzy or nauseous during class to
take deep breaths while working out. It's supposed to help quite a bit, if you
can remember to do it.


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Oksana Worshiper

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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>I went to a gymnast class last night for the first time, and had a great
>time, but can people tell me, is it normal to feel so nausious from the
>tumbling?
>

LOL, did you eat before? Do you have high blood pressure? I know this a dumb
question, but did you do any twisting or type of turning?

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Karen

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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> Is the nausia all a part of gymnastics or is it just me, or is it a newbie
> thing that you get used to?? I am not totally sure if I'll want to
> continue doing gymnastics if it gives me 24hour headaches...


About 2 summers ago I started an adult gymn. class (which I stayed in
for a year) ... and I VIVIDLY remember the first couple of classes.
After the first one I had a headache and I was sore all over (since I
had been away from gymn for 4 years) and after the second class I was
really dizzy and sick. What I ended up doing was taking 1/2 of a
non-drowzy anti-nauseant (like Gravol) pill about an hour before each of
the next few classes ... after that I didn't need them anymore and I was
fine. On a slightly different note -- I wonder if this is something
that just happens to adults, since I was in gymn. from age 6-15 and
never experienced any of these problems.

Travis Morien

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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Oksana Worshiper <omeli...@aol.commiegymn> wrote:
:>I went to a gymnast class last night for the first time, and had a great

:>time, but can people tell me, is it normal to feel so nausious from the
:>tumbling?
:>

: LOL, did you eat before? Do you have high blood pressure? I know this a dumb
: question, but did you do any twisting or type of turning?

Actually I have very low blood pressure, I'm practically dead...

I had very little to eat before.

The feeling I got was of being severely punch drunk, I've been in
kickboxing matches before and after receiving several hard kicks to my
head I feel similar to how I felt toward the end of the gymnastics class,
only not as bad.

I am not normally predisposed to getting motion sickness, though due to my
low blood pressure I sometimes get faint if I stand too long or stand too
quickly, but this nausia came when I was doing rolls and later somersaults
off the minitramp.

The instructor said it isn't all that uncommon, it is the fluid in my head
sloshing around and once my body gets used to it I'll be ok... but I went
on weds night and I must say, now on Friday morning I can still feel a
headache, though it is too mild now to bother me.

Travis

Temp

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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In article <7pijc9$dfi$1...@enyo.uwa.edu.au>, Travis Morien
<pha...@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> writes:

>The instructor said it isn't all that uncommon, it is the fluid in my head
>sloshing around and once my body gets used to it I'll be ok... but I went
>on weds night and I must say, now on Friday morning I can still feel a
>headache, though it is too mild now to bother me.
>

I once took my sister to the gym with me and
was trying to teach her simple jumps on the
tramp. She is athletically-challenged and was
constantly whipping her head. She became
nauseated and had a headache. I swear it
seemed like 'shaken adult' syndrome. Her pea
brain banging around in her skull.

The One and Only... Bianka!

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Aug 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/20/99
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I have really low blood pressure too, and I would get dizzy
and nauseated if I flipped around too long without taking a
break. Eat something like a power bar before you go, and
try to take deep breaths while you are tumbling.. don't
hold your breath! :)

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