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Gleshna

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Aug 25, 2004, 9:47:09 AM8/25/04
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Melissa do you judge men's gymnastics?

Do you own a copy of the Men's Code of Points?

If you are not a judge of men's gymnastics, why would your own a men's Code of
Points?


Gleshna

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"F%&*, I got beaten by a guy from the Great Lakes!"

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 25, 2004, 12:19:56 PM8/25/04
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I'm not a womens judge either, and I own a women's code. I was a coach up
until about a year ago. Most coaches possess a Code, if not both.


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S

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Aug 25, 2004, 2:57:45 PM8/25/04
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Melissa is a men's judge!

That is so cool. IMHO the more women that we can interest in coaching
and judging the better.

I have not talked to Missy in an age, but she is very open-minded so I
am not surprised that she took the time to learn to judge men's
gymnastics.

-S

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Melissa Wagner

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Aug 25, 2004, 4:51:02 PM8/25/04
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Missy is NOT a men's judge :) He was being sarcastic (good to see it came
across, though!). He was commenting that apparently he believes it's not
possible for someone to have a Code if they are not a judge. In fact, I
know many casual fans who own Codes, and are much more educated because of
it. As a coach, I was obligated to own both Codes - it was actually
required by my gym.


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Long John

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Aug 25, 2004, 5:50:21 PM8/25/04
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I've never met a women who wasn't a judge of men.

Gleshna

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Aug 25, 2004, 7:17:28 PM8/25/04
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>"Melissa Wagner" mel...@melissa-wagner.com

>I'm not a womens judge either, and I own a women's code. I was a coach up
>until about a year ago. Most coaches possess a Code, if not both.
>
>

Do you own a copy of the Men's Code of Points? That is not clear in your
answer.

I take it that you have never been a gymnastics judge at any level.

Gleshna

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Aug 25, 2004, 7:19:40 PM8/25/04
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>As a coach, I was obligated to own both Codes - it was actually
>required by my gym.

Do you own a current copy of the Men's Code of Points?

ftpb...@hotfoot.com

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Aug 25, 2004, 9:33:37 PM8/25/04
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 21:50:21 GMT, Long John <thef...@sherwood.com>
wrote:

>I've never met a women who wasn't a judge of men.

Boy, howdy!

Kendall P. Bullen

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Aug 25, 2004, 11:41:34 PM8/25/04
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In article <20040825191728...@mb-m06.aol.com>,
gle...@aol.com (Gleshna) wrote:

> Do you own a copy of the Men's Code of Points? That is not clear in your
> answer.

She's said so more than once before. I guess you missed that post, too.

KPB

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Kendall P. Bullen

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Aug 25, 2004, 11:42:14 PM8/25/04
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In article <20040825191940...@mb-m06.aol.com>,
gle...@aol.com (Gleshna) wrote:

> Do you own a current copy of the Men's Code of Points?

Geez, how many times must she say so? Sigh.

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 26, 2004, 12:21:15 PM8/26/04
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Can you read? I said I own a men's Code something like two days ago.


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Gleshna

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Aug 26, 2004, 4:01:30 PM8/26/04
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>Melissa Wagner" mel...@melissa-wagner.com

>Can you read? I said I own a men's Code something like two days ago.

Excuse me for not memorizing all of your posts.

Gleshna

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Aug 26, 2004, 4:01:53 PM8/26/04
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>"Melissa Wagner" mel...@melissa-wagner.com

> I said I own a men's Code something like two days ago.

Why do you own the copy?

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 26, 2004, 5:54:42 PM8/26/04
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Because, as I stated in another posts, it was a requirement by my gym to own
both copies.


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ec

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Aug 26, 2004, 7:22:33 PM8/26/04
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"Melissa Wagner" <mel...@melissa-wagner.com> wrote in message
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Gleshna is an idiot, pay it no mind.


Gleshna

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Aug 26, 2004, 9:36:12 PM8/26/04
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>"Melissa Wagner" mel...@melissa-wagner.com

>Because, as I stated in another posts, it was a requirement by my gym to own
>both copies.

Oh, okay. You other post was past tense, so I had the impression that you no
longer coach.

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 27, 2004, 2:58:51 AM8/27/04
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I don't. I stopped coaching a year ago. The Codes don't just magically
disappear into thin air when you quit.


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ec

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Aug 27, 2004, 3:04:34 AM8/27/04
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Melissa don't waste your keystrokes. Gleshna is 500 lb lop of shit stuck in
its house with nothing better to do than try and insult USA Men's
gymnastics.


Gleshna

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Aug 27, 2004, 8:33:19 AM8/27/04
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>"Melissa Wagner" mel...@melissa-wagner.com

>
>I don't. I stopped coaching a year ago. The Codes don't just magically
>disappear into thin air when you quit.
>

Okay, I understand. You are have girls coaching experience, follow male and
female gymnastics closely, and a current copy of the Men's Code of Points.
Codes change every four years.

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 27, 2004, 11:27:35 AM8/27/04
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I have girls and boys coaching experience, girls judging experience, follow
both sides very closely and own copies of both the mens and womens codes
(which are on a 8 year cycle this time - right Dean? so I've been told
anyway - ...the revisions have been coming free in the mail for 4-years
straight now, gotta love those Canadiens).


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Dean Dryer

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Aug 27, 2004, 9:47:25 PM8/27/04
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Melissa Wagner wrote:

>I have girls and boys coaching experience, girls judging experience, follow
>both sides very closely and own copies of both the mens and womens codes
>(which are on a 8 year cycle this time - right Dean? so I've been told
>anyway - ...the revisions have been coming free in the mail for 4-years
>straight now, gotta love those Canadiens).
>

I haven't heard anything about an 8 year cycle. With some of the changes
I've heard about, I certainly hope not.

Dean Dryer

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 28, 2004, 2:24:47 PM8/28/04
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Interesting. I just remember when the current code first came out,
there was lots of talk about trying to keep it in effect for 8 years,
with minimal amount of changes after 2004 (instead of completely
rehauling it, like what usually happens). Maybe that was just for the
women? Or maybe they decided not to go that route after all.

Dean Dryer

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Aug 28, 2004, 3:42:27 PM8/28/04
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Melissa Wagner wrote:

> Interesting. I just remember when the current code first came out,
> there was lots of talk about trying to keep it in effect for 8 years,
> with minimal amount of changes after 2004 (instead of completely
> rehauling it, like what usually happens). Maybe that was just for the
> women? Or maybe they decided not to go that route after all.

I've heard rumors about taking away D+D connection bonus. Devaluing a
bunch of skillls. Getting rid of one element group from each event.
These are not small changes. And they will make a 10.0 SV darn near
impossible. I really don't want to live with that kind of system for 8
years.

Dean Dryer

Melissa Wagner

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Aug 28, 2004, 5:43:04 PM8/28/04
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I got a list of the provisional changes not too long ago...I'll have to
dig them out and type them up. Some of the things they devalued made me
think they must be nuts.

Gleshna

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Aug 28, 2004, 8:32:05 PM8/28/04
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What does the Code of Points say about:

If the Start Value appears to be incorrect does the team file an inquiry or a
protest?

Is there anything in the Code of Points that states what you are supposed to do
if the judges or officials do not follow the procedures outlined in the Code of
Points?

Anyone know of any other cases where judges or officials did not follow the
procedures as outline in the Code of Points?

shmak...@gmail.com

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