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pause8cafe

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Feb 8, 2012, 1:13:07 PM2/8/12
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stevev

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Feb 8, 2012, 6:10:12 PM2/8/12
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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/02/08/jim-harbaugh-alex-smith-is-our-guy/?tsp=1

If you are happy with second, he's a good choice.

I'm wondering how much of this "support" is predicated on the fact that
there doesn't seem to be anyone on the radar to replace Smith, combined with
the fact that "the orgainization" (Harbaugh and Baalke) seems to have no
problem taking the second best guy for financial and team unity reasons.

Be honest...the 9th best QB, who got to within a hare's breath of leading
his team into the Super Bowl, and, who is also a free agent, would have
Kevin Kolb or better-than Ryan Fitzpatrick money thrown at him by another
desperate team. Harbaugh will sign him relatively cheaply...a good move.


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stevev

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Feb 9, 2012, 12:59:53 AM2/9/12
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"Yertle" <yer...@sala.ma.sond> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:10:12 -0800, "stevev" <ste...@addlebrain.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:64e97faa-5639-41e8...@tj4g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...
>>> http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2012/02/08/jim-harbaugh-alex-smith-is-our-guy/?tsp=1
>>
>>If you are happy with second, he's a good choice.
>>
>>I'm wondering how much of this "support" is predicated on the fact that
>>there doesn't seem to be anyone on the radar to replace Smith,
>
> That was true during the season. Now there's Manning - maybe. He's
> already stated that he'll take a mostly-incentive contract. The Colts
> neurosurgeon says if Manning were his own son, he'd tell him to go
> play football. If he passes every physical, why on earth wouldn't the
> 49ers want him? For the next two years, team Manning up with that
> defense and make a real run at the SB.
>
> I rooted hard for the 49ers to hire Harbaugh. He (and Fangio) won 13
> regular season games and a playoff game. He's definitely got all the
> credibility in the world and deserves all the credit he's gotten. But
> foreclosing the possibility of getting a HoF QB for even a couple of
> years in order to wait for Alex Smith to blossom one of these decades
> is bizarre.

You may be right, but I still think Manning is high risk. He's old, he's
hurt (despite what his surgeon says) or could be easily hurt again (he's
old, remember), and he hasn't played in a year. If Smith knows they are
trying to sign Manning, he goes on the open market for the best deal he can
make, which may or may not be the 49ers. Just doesn't seem their style, and
I don't think they would be top bidder for Manning anyway. Manning's only
real incentive is that the team made the conference championship game. He
wants one more try at tying his brother...lol.

poldy

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:46:26 AM2/12/12
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In article <jguvci$n52$1...@adenine.netfront.net>,
People are saying that Flynn will probably get a $60 million contract.

Imagine if Smith demands something like that ...

poldy

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Feb 12, 2012, 2:48:36 AM2/12/12
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In article <jgvnco$24je$1...@adenine.netfront.net>,
"stevev" <ste...@addlebrain.com> wrote:

> > I rooted hard for the 49ers to hire Harbaugh. He (and Fangio) won 13
> > regular season games and a playoff game. He's definitely got all the
> > credibility in the world and deserves all the credit he's gotten. But
> > foreclosing the possibility of getting a HoF QB for even a couple of
> > years in order to wait for Alex Smith to blossom one of these decades
> > is bizarre.
>
> You may be right, but I still think Manning is high risk. He's old, he's
> hurt (despite what his surgeon says) or could be easily hurt again (he's
> old, remember), and he hasn't played in a year. If Smith knows they are
> trying to sign Manning, he goes on the open market for the best deal he can
> make, which may or may not be the 49ers. Just doesn't seem their style, and
> I don't think they would be top bidder for Manning anyway. Manning's only
> real incentive is that the team made the conference championship game. He
> wants one more try at tying his brother...lol.

Yeah it's one thing to say we were close with Smith but to not look at
others?

Is Smith going to be Harbaugh's ultimate downfall too? That would have
to be some kind of record, for one player to get 3 head coaches fired.

Mario

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Feb 12, 2012, 8:18:36 AM2/12/12
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On Feb 11, 11:48 pm, poldy <po...@kfu.com> wrote:
> In article <jgvnco$24j...@adenine.netfront.net>,
> to be some kind of record, for one player to get 3 head coaches fired.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How could that happen? If anyone goes it would be Smith. In spite of
Alex Smith's short falls look what Harbaugh has done with this team.
All this talk about Manning if I remember correctly there was a lot of
talk about signing McNabb and look how he turned out. These guys are
in the twilight of their careers. Especially Manning this was a major
injury that kept him out a whole year. He's not a spring chicken by
any means. He would be coming to a new team and have to learn a new
system get used to new receivers etc. etc. If the 49ers are to make a
change go for someone younger. Harbaugh worked wonders with Smith
considering everything. Kaepernick remains untested the same can be
said for Tolzien who turned a lot of heads during the preseason with
San Diego.

pause8cafe

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Feb 12, 2012, 12:47:08 PM2/12/12
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> How could that happen? If anyone goes it would be Smith. In spite of
> Alex Smith's short falls look what Harbaugh has done with this team.

Smith does not have much in the way of leverage regarding
a new contract. I doubt it will be a massive payout for him.

John Walsh

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Feb 12, 2012, 7:41:33 PM2/12/12
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Smith and the team will arrive at something much lower than Flynn's
$60 million contract. As there was this past season, there will be
bonuses built into the contract that compensate for a lower overall
value in what he signs for.

I seem to remember a couple of QB's who got a big contract sand then
fell flat as a starters

Flynn did well with a team that was pretty much set as far as the
offense goes. How well will that translate to his new team, should he
sign with a team other than the Packers?
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pause8cafe

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Feb 12, 2012, 7:49:45 PM2/12/12
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> >People are saying that Flynn will probably get a $60 million contract.
>
> >Imagine if Smith demands something like that ...
>
> Smith and the team will arrive at something much lower than Flynn's
> $60 million contract.

They will have to, because he isn't worth that much money.

> I seem to remember a couple of QB's who got a big contract sand then
> fell flat as a starters
>
> Flynn did well with a team that was pretty much set as far as the
> offense goes.  How well will that translate to his new team, should he
> sign with a team other than the Packers?

It is called taking a chance. You don't stand pat with mediocre if
the possibility of an upgrade is there.
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stevev

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Feb 12, 2012, 10:23:52 PM2/12/12
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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Expect more of what they did last year. Selecting players who can help the
team, while avoiding the mega contracts. If Flynn can get 60 Mil, more
power to him...he won't get it from SF. Neither will Manning. For this
year, expect them to resign Smith and continue looking.

Harbaugh's job is safe for years to come. Getting to within one dropped
ball of being in (and probably winning) the Super Bowl is unbelievably hard,
with or without a super-star QB.

John Walsh

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Feb 15, 2012, 1:54:51 AM2/15/12
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:49:45 -0800 (PST), pause8cafe
<pause...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >People are saying that Flynn will probably get a $60 million contract.
>>
>> >Imagine if Smith demands something like that ...
>>
>> Smith and the team will arrive at something much lower than Flynn's
>> $60 million contract.
>
>They will have to, because he isn't worth that much money.

Want to bet on that, Einstein? He'll get a good contract because he
earned it. He'll probably take less money free up some room for other
player contracts. He's that kind of guy.
>
>> I seem to remember a couple of QB's who got a big contract sand then
>> fell flat as a starters
>>
>> Flynn did well with a team that was pretty much set as far as the
>> offense goes.  How well will that translate to his new team, should he
>> sign with a team other than the Packers?
>
>It is called taking a chance. You don't stand pat with mediocre if
>the possibility of an upgrade is there.

Oh, so it's called taking a chance? Well, you don't think Harbaugh
took a chance? The results are proof enough that taking a chance
works, but then Smith was already in the offense and Harbaugh fed them
the new offense slowly. Damn, some other coach did the same thing
with his team and things turned out pretty good.

You stand pat with mediocre comments, Smith will just keep improving.
You see, when you get so fixated with old history, you never see what
the future has to offer. Stick with what you like, 13-3 and a playoff
tell me a lot more than a sorry old refrain about mediocrity.

Harbaugh saw something in Smith that you missed. Smith was ready to
leave, that's fact. Harbaugh talked him into staying because Harbaugh
(a former NFL QB) realized that there was more to Smith than 6 seasons
of poor performance showed.

Smith stood toe to toe with Brees and beat him. Brees got 4 TD's,
Smith got 4. Now the so-called mediocre Smith could have never done
that. No, he'd have imploded, just a like a lot of doubters expected.
Remember how a mediocre Smith could never throw on timing? What did
he do on the pass to Davis? That ball was out and on the way before
Davis broke towards the endzone. Well, that must have been another QB
out there, right?

Ever seen Smith laughing as he ran for a TD? Ever seen our mild
mannered milk toast bark out replies to the other team on his way back
from that TD, or the final TD? No, he'll never change, oh no.

Not bad for a team or a QB that hadn't played in the offense before,
the seventh straight for Smith and the team. 13-3 ... not bad at all,
but it could have been better. Will be better, especially with some
experience.

If the Niners take history to heart, they'll upgrade the offense with
some bigger, faster receivers and that alone should make a significant
difference. They might draft higher than Walsh did, but either way,
they should give Smith more weapons to work with.

Plenty of work for Smith to do on his game, but at least he'll make
the effort. How many fans would take Flynn over Smith after a 13-3
season and a playoff win?

pause8cafe

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Feb 15, 2012, 2:41:22 AM2/15/12
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On Feb 14, 10:54 pm, John Walsh <jwalsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:49:45 -0800 (PST), pause8cafe
>
> <pause8c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >People are saying that Flynn will probably get a $60 million contract.
>
> >> >Imagine if Smith demands something like that ...
>
> >> Smith and the team will arrive at something much lower than Flynn's
> >> $60 million contract.
>
> >They will have to, because he isn't worth that much money.
>
> Want to bet on that, Einstein?  He'll get a good contract because he
> earned it.  He'll probably take less money free up some room for other
> player contracts.   He's that kind of guy.

Bullshit. He'll take less money because he'll be offered less money.

stevev

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Feb 15, 2012, 4:54:28 PM2/15/12
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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Tend to agree with that. I sorta/kinda think Smith will find himself in the
same spot Goldson did last season. If he thinks he can get "elite" money,
he'll have to get it elsewhere. Management won't stop him from looking.

A rising tide lifts all boats. If Harbaugh and Baalke repeat their
selection successes of last year, Smith is on the best possible team,
regardless of money. He's a smart kid and knows this. He'll resign for an
incentive-laden, "decent" raise and extension.

Sydney Diego

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Feb 16, 2012, 2:45:49 PM2/16/12
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Yup.

He's that kind of guy.

Smith will have just as many teams making him offers this offseason as
he did last offseason.

One.

The 49ers will outbid themselves yet again.

Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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================================================

I think it will be more teams. As I showed a few months back, the Raiders
were interested last season. Someone else posted something about Seahawks
interest last year. Anyhow I think there will be interest from some teams
around the league and I think Smith will re-sign with the 49ers for "much
less money" than he could find elsewhere. Hope that I am not wrong, unless
of course Harbaugh has other QB options he is pursuing.


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Leonard

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Feb 16, 2012, 11:23:07 PM2/16/12
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"Casey Anthony's Ovaries" <caseys...@babybbq.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <cafd5667-d689-46e0...@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> The 49ers will outbid themselves yet again.
>
> I hope they lowball the fuck out of him.

Are you still here? You said you would be gone if the 49ers kept
Smith......something like 2 years ago.


Sydney Diego

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Feb 17, 2012, 10:23:44 AM2/17/12
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You didn't "show" a damn thing.

He had ONE offer anyone actually knows about.

Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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=================================

Your comprehension is lacking again Sydney. Several months ago I posted an
article in which the Raiders claimed that they had had interest in Smith. I
did not claim that the Raiders or anyone else made Smith an offer. I once
said that he could have signed for much more money elsewhere. While I
believe that to be true, I could not prove it so I backed off that
statement. But as it is a true off-season and Smith is a FA, I once again
believe that he will re-sign with the 49ers instead of taking much more
money elsewhere.


Sydney Diego

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Feb 17, 2012, 3:14:09 PM2/17/12
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I have an "interest" in smith too, I need a gardener.

There was no serious interest last offseason, and the 49ers will
outbid themselves again THIS offseason.

No one will offer him "much more money"

He'll take the 49ers offer because that's all he'll get, oh and he'll
get to caddy for Harbaugh, maybe he will get a few tips too.




Leonard

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Feb 18, 2012, 5:18:28 PM2/18/12
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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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There was no serious interest last offseason, and the 49ers will
outbid themselves again THIS offseason.

No one will offer him "much more money"

He'll take the 49ers offer because that's all he'll get, oh and he'll
get to caddy for Harbaugh, maybe he will get a few tips too.

============================================

You don't know there was no serious interest in the last offseason. Last
offseason there was a lockout. Contacting players or agents would have have
been a violation of rules, much like the 49ers-Briggs fandango. Smith was
rated the 9th best QB in the league (much higher if we are only counting
wins and losses). There will be interest and it won't be as your gardener.

So this year I predict Smith will re-sign with the 49ers for much less money
than he could get elsewhere. It is refreshing to see a loyal team
orientated player with all the greed in pro sports. My Smith predictions
have been pretty good going back 4 years.




Sydney Diego

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Feb 19, 2012, 6:51:54 PM2/19/12
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It could very well be that for the firs time in free agency a tteam's
interest in a player was so well hidden no one knew about it.

Unlikely but you can cling to that.

And next season when Smith takes what the 49ers offer you can convince
yourself that yet again there were multiple secret suitors and that he
chose less money out of the goodness of his heart.

Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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============================================

firs?
tteam's?

Why Sydney you drunken sot please don't play spelling police or
comprehension police anymore. Neither is "apprantly" your strong suit.


John Walsh

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Feb 19, 2012, 8:19:30 PM2/19/12
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:23:07 -0800, "Leonard" <elkof...@citlink.net>
wrote:
He hangs around, just like another loser who couldn't honor his
promise. Such is life. Smith's the starter and there is not thing
one they can do about it. About the only person who could is Colin
Kaepernick. :)

Leonard

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"John Walsh" <jwal...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:23:07 -0800, "Leonard" <elkof...@citlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Casey Anthony's Ovaries" <caseys...@babybbq.com> wrote in message
>>news:caseysovaries-F35...@free.teranews.com...
>>> In article
>>> <cafd5667-d689-46e0...@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>>> Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 49ers will outbid themselves yet again.
>>>
>>> I hope they lowball the fuck out of him.
>>
>>Are you still here? You said you would be gone if the 49ers kept
>>Smith......something like 2 years ago.
>>
>
> He hangs around, just like another loser who couldn't honor his
> promise. Such is life. Smith's the starter and there is nothing
> one they can do about it. About the only person who could is Colin
> Kaepernick. :)

I disagree a bit JW. Smith is a FA, so he is not the starter unless he
signs with the 49ers for much less money than he could get from some other
teams. I think Smith will re-sign and be the starter in 2012 and beyond.


John Walsh

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Feb 20, 2012, 6:37:58 AM2/20/12
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:40:57 -0800, "Leonard" <elkof...@citlink.net>
wrote:
Point taken, but you already know there's trust there. Coach talked
him into staying. Smith found that good coaching and a little faith
worked wonders. Again, in an offense he had to learn all over again,
for the seventh time.

He trusted Harbaugh, Harbaugh put trust in him. That counts for a lot
in Smith's book. As a FA , sure he could sign anywhere, but why leave
something good for bigger money? He was well paid over his first
contract, he's got everything to gain and nothing to lose in staying
with the Niners.

They came within two fumbles of going to the SB. Would you give all
that up for signing with a new team? Find me a team without a good QB
that's within a whisper of the SB. While your at it, find one with a
coach that can do the job as well as Harbaugh did?

He'll undoubtedly sign for less money, and he could get one hell of a
lot more somewhere else, but I highly doubt that he'll go. He's got
it good and only a fool would leave all that for more money.

If he should go, I'd wish him well. He endured a lot in sticking
things out with the Niners. Felt mighty good watching beat the Saints
and hang tough against the Giants. Smith never let them down.

Just that two little twists in the game and they would have been in
the Big One. :)

I'm so looking forward to next season. It's going to be a good one
and my 2011 prediction stands for 2012.

Sydney Diego

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:39:18 AM2/20/12
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What's a "sot" ?

And again you apparently don't know the difference between a typo and
using the entirely wrong word or badly misspelling a word.

Of course, that's because you're an idiot.

Still going to cling to the secret suitor theory to buttress your
position about what a nice guy he is to "accept less money than no one
else is offering" ?

Mario

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Feb 20, 2012, 12:21:17 PM2/20/12
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On Feb 19, 5:19 pm, John Walsh <jwalsh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:23:07 -0800, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >"Casey Anthony's Ovaries" <caseysovar...@babybbq.com> wrote in message
> >news:caseysovaries-F35...@free.teranews.com...
> >> In article
> >> <cafd5667-d689-46e0-8a30-9a7d28509...@c21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> >> Sydney Diego <all...@email.com> wrote:
>
> >>> The 49ers will outbid themselves yet again.
>
> >> I hope they lowball the fuck out of him.
>
> >Are you still here?  You said you would be gone if the 49ers kept
> >Smith......something like 2 years ago.
>
> He hangs around, just like another loser who couldn't honor his
> promise.  Such is life.  Smith's the starter and there is not thing
> one they can do about it. About the only person who could is Colin
> Kaepernick.  :)

What about my boy Tolzien? I say give the guy a break during the
preseason. After watching him last year during that one preseason
game I just can't seem to forget about him.

Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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============

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sot

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sot

Sot is often used with the word drunken in front.

http://www.varight.com/news/drunken-sot-pelosi-spends-101000-of-taxpayer-money-on-booze-and-high-life/


John Walsh

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On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:21:17 -0800 (PST), Mario <oir...@military.com>
wrote:
After watching Smith in the first pre-season game, everyone wanted to
forget about him. :)

Sydney Diego

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Feb 20, 2012, 1:23:09 PM2/20/12
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After watching him in the NFCCG we still do.

Sydney Diego

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> http://www.varight.com/news/drunken-sot-pelosi-spends-101000-of-taxpa...

Your experience with drunks is greater than mine. Obviously you are
around them a lot, or are one yourself. Having seen your posts I'll go
with the latter.



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Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 9:50 am, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
> "Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message

> > It could very well be that for the firs time in free agency a tteam's
> > interest in a player was so well hidden no one knew about it.
>
> > ============================================
>
> > firs?
> > tteam's?
>
> > Why Sydney you drunken sot please don't play spelling police or
> > comprehension police anymore. Neither is "apprantly" your strong suit.
>
> What's a "sot" ?
>
> ============
>
> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sot
>
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sot
>
> Sot is often used with the word drunken in front.
>
> http://www.varight.com/news/drunken-sot-pelosi-spends-101000-of-taxpa...

Your experience with drunks is greater than mine. Obviously you are
around them a lot, or are one yourself. Having seen your posts I'll go
with the latter.

===============================================

Just because I have pointed out your frequent spelling and comprehension
mistakes you lower yourself to name calling?




Sydney Diego

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Feb 20, 2012, 7:03:47 PM2/20/12
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On Feb 20, 3:09 pm, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
> "Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
>
> news:41fa2bd0-a343-4b08...@t2g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 20, 9:50 am, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
> > > It could very well be that for the firs time in free agency a tteam's
> > > interest in a player was so well hidden no one knew about it.
>
> > > ============================================
>
> > > firs?
> > > tteam's?
>
> > > Why Sydney you drunken sot please don't play spelling police or
> > > comprehension police anymore. Neither is "apprantly" your strong suit.
>
> > What's a "sot" ?
>
> > ============
>
> >http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sot
>
> >http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sot
>
> > Sot is often used with the word drunken in front.
>
> >http://www.varight.com/news/drunken-sot-pelosi-spends-101000-of-taxpa...
>
> Your experience with drunks is greater than mine. Obviously you are
> around them a lot, or are one yourself. Having seen your posts I'll go
> with the latter.
>
> ===============================================
>
> Just because I have pointed out your frequent spelling and comprehension
> mistakes you lower yourself to name calling?

"drunken sot" wasn't name calling ?

Leonard

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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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Sure it was, but as you have called another poster in this newsgroup a drunk
I'm only dishing out what you have done previously. Same goes with my
pointing out your spelling and comprehension mistakes. None of us are
perfect. You have had heartburn over JW's posts, but in the bigger picture
he is an excellant member of the newsgroup. He offers opinion (which you
can agree with or not), he posts articles pertaining to the 49ers, he is a
true fan. This newsgroup could use more JW's.

In other words:

Don't dish it out if you can't take it.
Pot, kettle, black.
Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house.

I have no remorse for giving you a dose of your own medicine.

Now can we talk 49er football and get off the negative track we have been
on?


Sydney Diego

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:47:10 PM2/20/12
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Ah, ok, good. For a minute there I thought you were reverting back to
your hypocritical holier-than-thou attitude. Good to see you finally
gave up that facade.

> but as you have called another poster in this newsgroup a drunk
> I'm only dishing out what you have done previously.

I call many people many things. Some complimentary, some less so, but
all truthful and honest.

> Same goes with my
> pointing out your spelling and comprehension mistakes.

You STILL don't know the difference between a real typo and using the
wrong word or badly misspelling something ?

Here, let me spell it out for you dumbass.

If for example I said "they should of gone for the 2-point
conversion", that's not a typo, that's just stupidity.

Or if I say "their going to draft a real quarterback this time instead
of the looser they drafted last time", those aren't typos, those are
two instances of stupidity.

If I say apparntly rather than apparently that's just bad typing. ie,
a "typo".



 None of us are
> perfect.  You have had heartburn over JW's posts, but in the bigger picture
> he is an excellant

excellent

The a is 2 keys away from the "e". See that's stupidity, not a typo.

QED

pause8cafe

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:40:28 PM2/20/12
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1 for 13 on third down conversions.

Leonard

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Feb 20, 2012, 10:40:59 PM2/20/12
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"Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 5:31 pm, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
> "Sydney Diego" <all...@email.com> wrote in message

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Excellent. I transposed a vowel.....typo or stupidity?

You said "The a is 2 keys away from the "e". See that's stupidity, not a
typo." If you are going to put quotation marks around the e, should you not
also put them around the a? Why did you not spell out two instead of
shortening it to 2? As long as we are picking nits, are these typos or
stupidity?

Maybe you should be truthful and honest with yourself too. It was
apprantly, not apparently or apparntly that you posted earlier. Typo or
stupidity? Personally I think they are all OK as long as it is readable.

So do you think the 49ers are going to franchise anyone?


Leonard

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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As a team the 49ers were 1 for 13 on third down conversions. As an
individual, Smith had a 97.6 QBR. Could he have been better? Hell yes.
Could other aspects of the 49ers been better. Hell yes.


pause8cafe

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On Feb 20, 7:48 pm, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
> "pause8cafe" <pause8c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's how you finish. Manning had a lower QBR. Who has the Super Bowl
ring?
Smith or Manning?

Leonard

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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I never cared for Manning, but I have learned to respect him. Competitor.
I think we will see some more good things from Smith who is also a
competitor.


pause8cafe

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Whether you or I care for him is irrelevant, Manning has gone
from being doubted by many and risen to elite status.

Smith is only a serviceable quarterback.

Leonard

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"pause8cafe" <pause...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 8:00 pm, "Leonard" <elkofin...@citlink.net> wrote:
> "pause8cafe" <pause8c...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The future will tell if he rises above that mark. I think he will. Others
don't, so be it.

So changing subjects and thinking of the Mannings, Peyton seems like a
HOFer. Gaudy stats, SB win, MVP awards. Eli didn't seem bound for the HOF,
but now has eclipsed Peyton in SB wins. Will Eli's second SB win take
something away from Peyton or will it elevate Eli to HOF potential?


pause8cafe

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Feb 21, 2012, 9:45:14 PM2/21/12
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> The future will tell if he rises above that mark.  I think he will.  Others
> don't, so be it.

Or he may revert to his old form.

> So changing subjects and thinking of the Mannings, Peyton seems like a
> HOFer.  Gaudy stats, SB win, MVP awards.  Eli didn't seem bound for the HOF,
> but now has eclipsed Peyton in SB wins.  Will Eli's second SB win take
> something away from Peyton or will it elevate Eli to HOF potential?

Peyton will definitely be in the Hall Of Fame. Eli should make it
after
his latest Super Bowl victory. His teams earned the right to go to
Super Bowl and won both times.
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