Vikings OT dies at camp
Bill (Eaglesfan)
Aug. 1, 2001
SportsLine.com wire reports
MANKATO, Minn. -- Minnesota Vikings right tackle Korey Stringer died
Wednesday morning from complications of heatstroke.
Stringer developed symptoms of heat stroke including weakness and rapid
breathing following the team's morning practice Tuesday.
He was taken by ambulance to Immanuel St. Joseph's Hospital after going
through morning conditioning drills and returning to the team's locker room.
Stringer was unresponsive when he arrived at Immanuel St. Joseph's-Mayo
Health System in Mankato, and had a temperature of over 108 degrees.
He developed multiorgan system failure throughout the day, requiring
attention of multiple specialists and staff, a statement from the Vikings
said.
Stringer didn't regain consciousness. His heart failed at 1:50 a.m.
The temperature on the team's second day of training camp reached the low
90s, but stifling humidity raised the heat index to as high as 110 degrees.
Daunte Culpepper, Cris Carter and other players and coaches visited the
hospital after workouts.
The 6-foot-4, 335-pound Stringer and defensive tackle Fred Robbins had to
sit out the Vikings' workout Monday afternoon because of heat exhaustion.
Stringer, who struggled earlier in his career to keep his weight under
control, made the Pro Bowl last year for the first time. He and 359-pound
guard David Dixon helped clear holes on the right side of the line for
running back Robert Smith, who rushed for a franchise-best 1,521 yards last
season.
Picked by the Vikings in the first round of the 1995 draft, Stringer started
every game at right tackle the past two seasons.
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best medical care money can buy.
When will the rest of the league wake up and heed the call of the pickle
juice?
"Bill (Eaglesfan)" <eagle...@mindshpling.com> wrote in message
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James Bell
I hate to second guess but he probably should have had better treatment
after his heat exhaustion on Monday. I'm no doctor but it seems that if
they replaced his fluids adequately on Monday and made sure he kept up his
intake on Tuesday, this might have been prevented. If he still showed
symptoms on Tuesday morning he should have sat out again.
Jim
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Dutchman
treatment for the heat stroke before the ambulance arrived. I played some
ball at the Naval Academy and they were extremly sensitive to these things
during the heat and humidity that occurs in that area in the summer. One of
the first things they preached was to cool the victim. Cooling meant wet
towels and ice packs that were always on hand. My only guess is that the
symptoms of very high body temperature came on very fast, perhaps at the
time the ambulance was arriving.
It's a tradegy for all football players and fans alike. My prayers are with
his wife and young son.
Dutchman
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times on Tuesday morning he didn't seek the aid of the trainers. No comment
on why the trainers didn't seek him.
Jim
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EL4
what a waste of life and talent.
It must really be hurting the folks in Minn. I still remember where I was
when I heard about Jerome Brown (frozen food aisle of the local
supermarket).
It will be interesting to see how this affects the Vikings play this year,
will they fall apart with the loss of talent (first Robert Smith retires,
now this) or rally around this sudden tragedy and come out fighting.
I for one am hoping for the latter
I know,I know, I'm usually not this sappy, but news like this just flat out
sucks,
I wouldn't even wish it on the cowboys.
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Corey Simonator
will they fall apart with the loss of talent (first Robert Smith retires,
now this) or rally around this sudden tragedy and come out fighting.>
They once had the best offensive line in the league. Now two of those guys are
Bucs, one is a Panther and another is dead. Culpepper's going to be running for
his life this year with the pile of crap they have as offensive lineman this
year. Add that to no defense and no Robert Smith and you've got disaster; no
matter how many dead players they use as motivation. Douglas and Kalu are going
to be all over Culpepper this year when we play them. If they want to do
something in memory of Stringer they'd better get some #77 patches on the
jersey because they aren't going to be collecting many wins in his memory.
<I for one am hoping for the latter>
Not me. I've been waiting for years to see the Vikings choke and a player
dying, no matter how sad it is, isn't going to change that one bit.
James Bell
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> Man, I hate hearing stuff like this,
> what a waste of life and talent.
>
> It must really be hurting the folks in Minn. I still remember where I
was
> when I heard about Jerome Brown (frozen food aisle of the local
> supermarket).
Truly a horrible, tragic happening.
> It will be interesting to see how this affects the Vikings play this year,
> will they fall apart with the loss of talent (first Robert Smith retires,
> now this) or rally around this sudden tragedy and come out fighting.
>
> I for one am hoping for the latter
I'm not. I feel for his wife and child and the rest of his family and
friends on a personal level. Whether the Vikings win or lose games is a
completely unrelated issue. They're going to be much weaker than past
seasons. They're more likely to use this event as their excuse for their
poor performance than to play better because of it. They simply have no OL,
no RB, and no defense. One dead teammate isn't going to turn that around.
Jim
EL4
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>
> <I for one am hoping for the latter>
>
> Not me. I've been waiting for years to see the Vikings choke and a player
> dying, no matter how sad it is, isn't going to change that one bit.
I meant as a matter of character, I hope they pull it together.
The league needs more teams like the Eagles and Saints
wishing for any player to die is over the top even for you.
JD(Eagles)
only works for a short period.
I remember when Jerome died, the players
would huddle before every game and
dedicate the game to Jerome.
I think by the end of the season it
ended up working against them
emotional.
JD
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Corey Simonator
The league needs more teams like the Eagles and Saints>
I think they will in that respect. I felt like I watched Moss become a man on
that podium today.
<wishing for any player to die is over the top even for you.>
Do me a favor and don't go looking through some of my old posts in the Cowboys
newsgroup; especially the ones about Aikman. Thanks.
James Bell
"Corey Simonator" <coreysi...@cs.combine> wrote in message
> <I meant as a matter of character, I hope they pull it together.
> The league needs more teams like the Eagles and Saints>
>
> I think they will in that respect. I felt like I watched Moss become a man
on
> that podium today.
I heard about that. I'll have to hope they show some of it on Sports Center
later this evening. Maybe Randy Moss now realizes that some things are more
important than his personal stat sheet.
Jim
John Hines
<jam...@naxs.com> wrote:
> Recent reports from the Vikings say that although Stringer threw up three
> times on Tuesday morning he didn't seek the aid of the trainers. No comment
> on why the trainers didn't seek him.
>
Seems to me that, with all of the resources available to NFL clubs, they
could afford to have some of their trainers act as "floaters" -- personnel
who are more pro-active and watch the players for signs of trouble, rather
than waiting for the players to come to them. Some of these guys are
proud and concerned about missing any time in training camp. Given the
investment made and the very serious risk of heatstroke in training camp,
teams would stand well to save these guys from themselves.
But then maybe the Vikes have this very kind of mechanism in place. Did
Stringer try to conceal his vomiting episodes from the trainers?
John
John Hines
<jam...@naxs.com> wrote:
I'm sure Moss is geniuinely upset over Stringer. But anyone who thinks
Moss ISN'T going to be the selfish S.O.B. he's always been come September
is fooling themselves. You might hear more references to "God" in his
postgame interviews, but I doubt there will be any great spiritual
awakenings in store for Randy Moss.
John
keveagle
keveagle
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Gbw834
>From: hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu (John Hines)
>Newsgroups: alt.sports.football.pro.phila-eagles
>Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 17:34:19 -0400
Excuse me?Deion Sanders,found God!Randall Cunningham,who's as thick as a
fucking brick,managed to find him,too!Why not,Randy Moss? I've yet to receive
my calling from God,but I'm faithfull,that it's never too late,to learn to cry
on a podium!Remember,Jimmy Swaggart?!
So there,Mr.Smarty Pants!
Glenn
Not to be a totally heartless bastard like,Hines.My heart goes out to Corey
Stringer's family,for their tragic loss.God bless.
Rich Samuels
"John Hines" <hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu> wrote ...
> Seems to me that, with all of the resources available.......
Good point John. I agree with your post. Growing up in South Jersey and
playing midget football in the early to mid 80's I remember our coaches
being ruthless on us kids the first few weeks of practice. Heat exhaustion
and other ailments were practically unheard of. If you let the heat get to
you, you were pretty much labeled a pussy and not tough enough to be a
player. They even timed our breaks at the water hose so that if we weren't
quick enough, those at the end of the line that didn't get a chance to take
a pull went without. It's un-fucking-believable now that I think about it.
As I got towards high school, things started changing as coaches became more
knowledgeable of the dangers.
Sometimes I think some of these coaches and players are still living in the
past and do not realize the damage they are doing to their bodies. It's a
damn shame that no one on a PAID training staff in today's NFL could have
seen this coming and do anything to prevent it.
- Rich
emorr
he could die. I just can't believe it.
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Hurtin
he could die. I just can't believe it. >>
It's happening all over. FSU and Florida have each lost players the last year
due to this. Sign of the times.
John Keating
Mr. Pink
EL4
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>
> "John Hines" <hi...@pharm.med.upenn.edu> wrote ...
> > Seems to me that, with all of the resources available.......
>
> Good point John. I agree with your post. Growing up in South Jersey and
> playing midget football in the early to mid 80's
All this time and I never knew you were a midget!
Did your cheerleaders sing the oompa loompa song?
Joseph Pepe
listened to his body.
On a side note, and not to make lite of the subject in the least, a 78 year
old woman died at Giants Training Camp a couple days ago.
in article 68S97.2952$CZ.8...@dca1-nnrp2.news.digex.net, Ceadtinneh at
sul...@yahoo.com wrote on 8/1/01 7:56 AM:
Joseph Pepe
at coreysi...@cs.combine wrote on 8/1/01 4:10 PM:
> <I meant as a matter of character, I hope they pull it together.
> The league needs more teams like the Eagles and Saints>
>
> I think they will in that respect. I felt like I watched Moss become a man on
> that podium today.
Got to agree, you can't help but feel for the team and his family. That
wasn't the Randy Moss we usually see.
JW Moore
>I can't understand with all the medical personnel, his age, and fitness that
>he could die. I just can't believe it.
>
With the trend toward 325 + lb. men doing 2-a-days wearing helmets and
pads in sweltering heat and humidity, I'm surprised in retrospect that
it doesn't happen more often.
Heat exhaustion can hit so suddenly, as it evidently did in Stringer's
case, that the coaches/trainers may not notice till the player goes
down. By then, organ damage can already be life-threatening.
I hope this doesn't lead to the scapegoating of the Vikings staff --
it could have been any other team. I do hope the league develops
guidelines for preventing and detecting heat exhaustion.
I thought Randy Moss' remarks extremely moving. We sometimes forget
those are real human beings underneath those uniforms.
~~Jack
Ash
Kerry Collins at QB.
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the hospital for around 12 hours getting treatment and he *still* dies.
Makes you appreciate that life is a bit more fragile than we take for
granted sometimes.
Jim
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Hurtin
> > Seems to me that, with all of the resources available.......
>
> Good point John. I agree with your post. Growing up in South Jersey and
> playing midget football in the early to mid 80's
All this time and I never knew you were a midget!
Did your cheerleaders sing the oompa loompa song?
>>
Come on folks, wake up! It's now called "Little People's Football". Quit being
so insensitive.
John Keating
Mr. Pink
Hurtin
old woman died at Giants Training Camp a couple days ago.
>>
One less Gnats fan. Not quite the same impact. It wasn't Landeta's wife, was
it?
John Keating
Mr. Pink
Ceadtinneh
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Micheal Irvin from paralysis on the carpet of the Vet.
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"Hurtin" <hur...@aol.comFUdallas> wrote in message
EL4
>
>
> Come on folks, wake up! It's now called "Little People's Football". Quit
being
> so insensitive.
>
>
>
> John Keating
> Mr. Pink
I thought the term was "vertically challenged"
we had a very different version of midget football, and boy, did he get
pissed when you spiked him in the endzone!
EL4
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JonA
wrote:
Don't you hate that. My favorite is tipping back a few, typing some of
the funniest shit I've ever seen, hitting send, then seeing it in the
morning. More than once I've wondered what the hell was I thinking?
I think everyone is allowed a few.
JonA
Corey Simonator
the funniest shit I've ever seen, hitting send, then seeing it in the morning.
More than once I've wondered what the hell was I thinking?>
That's why I killfilled myself.
James Bell
Man, jopa. Good thing I wasn't drinking anything when I read your post or
I'd need a new keyboard! *That* was funny!
Jim
emorr
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Rich Samuels
"Corey Simonator" <coreysi...@cs.combine> wrote ...
>
> That's why I killfilled myself.
>
Pump - you're definately coming around. That's the funniest damn thing I've
seen in this thread!
- Rich
Corey Simonator
seen in this thread!>
That's not really saying much considering the thread.
Gbw834
>Newsgroups: alt.sports.football.pro.phila-eagles
>Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 15:43:26 GMT
>
>If only Pine Time had been at the Vikings camp. After all, he did save
>Micheal Irvin from paralysis on the carpet of the Vet.
Yeah,what a humanitarian.
I've had a "strong dislike" for Dijon since way back when he played for the
Braves,and threw that bucket of water in Tim Mcarver's face.
But,I'll have to admit that I'll miss him a bit when he's gone.Few things could
lift my spirits as quickly as the idiotic comments he made in
interviews.Man,I'll never forget the pregame interview he did with Fox,about
his"spiritual rebirth."I was laughing hysterically thru the entire
interview,but when they showed the footage of his "singing"with that choir!Oh
my God!I spilled my beer,the dog jumped up,and I was on my knees almost lapsing
into convulsions from laughing so hard!God I whish I had thought to tape it!And
of course,the play where Sam Mills layed him out cold,and four or five other
Panthers' players"piled on"makes my top ten NFL moments,as well.
Thanks for the memories,Dijon,you goofy bastard.
Glenn
Gbw834
>Newsgroups: alt.sports.football.pro.phila-eagles
>Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:22:34 GMT
>
>Don't you hate that. My favorite is tipping back a few, typing some of
>the funniest shit I've ever seen, hitting send, then seeing it in the
>morning. More than once I've wondered what the hell was I thinking?
>I think everyone is allowed a few.
>
>JonA
I'm sure that I'm WAY over my allowance for posting,stupid shit.Hell with
it,you know what they say about "people who can't take a joke..." WTF,you can't
beat being able to turn on the PC,"enjoy a few beverages of your choice"and
relax and "shoot the shit"about sports.It's WAY better than going out to the
bar, and having to wake up the next morning worrying about where you "parked"
the car.
Long live A.S.F.P.P-E.,for the most part,it keeps me off the streets(and the
neighbors lawns)and out of trouble.
Glenn
Hurtin
it,you know what they say about "people who can't take a joke..." WTF,you can't
beat being able to turn on the PC,"enjoy a few beverages of your choice"and
relax and "shoot the shit"about sports.It's WAY better than going out to the
bar, and having to wake up the next morning worrying about where you "parked"
the car.
Long live A.S.F.P.P-E.,for the most part,it keeps me off the streets(and the
neighbors lawns)and out of trouble. >>
Alright, Glenn. Hand the keys over.
John Keating
Mr. Pink
EL4
.It's WAY better than going out to the
> bar, and having to wake up the next morning worrying about where you
"parked"
> the car.
> > Glenn
Used to be, the next morning, I was more worried where I parked my johnson
then my car. As long as the lump next to me didn't moo, oink, or speak in an
unusaully deep voice, I was O.K.
But I gave up all of that for the joy of marriage years ago.
Man,even I don't know if I'm being sarcastic or not anymore
EL4
"Corey Simonator" <coreysi...@cs.combine> wrote in message
Ahhhhh, Virtual Suicide.
Try to get Websters to publish that one. Hell, they put in a definition
for D'oh this year.
Bill (Eaglesfan)
morning.
Actually Glen, one of your drunk moments was still one of my favorite posts
in here...the one where you renounced your religion...that was classic
stuff. Thanks...
Bill
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Rich Samuels
"Gbw834" <gbw...@cs.com> wrote ...
>WTF,you can't
> beat being able to turn on the PC,"enjoy a few beverages of your
choice"and
> relax and "shoot the shit"about sports.It's WAY better than going out to
the
> bar, and having to wake up the next morning worrying about where you
"parked"
> the car.
I've never been the kind of guy to pound a ton of beers and get behind the
wheel and drive like a friggin idiot. I've always been able to be a pretty
decent driver after a few and usually am the one in charge of getting
everyone home. But have any of you ever noticed what a fucking pain in the
ass it is to try and type drunk?!!! I can usually type over 80 words a
minute. But I'm hard pressed to get in 15 intelligible words a minute after
only a 6 pack or so. It frustrates the hell out of me not being able to
transfer my thoughts through my fingers, but being able to drive 65 miles an
hour on the freeway as if I was sober!!! Guess I need to practice. Excuse
me, I've got a case of some good stout out in the garage fridge. See you in
a couple hours...
- Rich
Rich Samuels
"Rich Samuels" <ri...@allproland.com> wrote in ...
>
> I've never been the kind of guy to pound a ton of beers and get behind the
> wheel and drive like a friggin idiot. I've always been able to be a
pretty
> decent driver after a few and usually am the one in charge of getting
> everyone home. But have any of you ever noticed what a fucking pain in
the
> ass it is to try and type drunk?!!! I can usually type over 80 words a
> minute. But I'm hard pressed to get in 15 intelligible words a minute
after
> only a 6 pack or so. It frustrates the hell out of me not being able to
> transfer my thoughts through my fingers, but being able to drive 65 miles
an
> hour on the freeway as if I was sober!!! Guess I need to practice.
Excuse
> me, I've got a case of some good stout out in the garage fridge. See you
in
> a couple hours...
>
> - Rich
>
> http://www.section118.com
>
io k im back.. seee i cnat typee for shit no w!!!!!!!!!
- RIch
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