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euphy

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Jan 23, 2011, 9:55:30 PM1/23/11
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On 1/23/2011 8:49 PM, buRford wrote:
> I'm done until he's gone.


Everybody wrote this down, right?

Still Roper

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Jan 23, 2011, 10:11:13 PM1/23/11
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On Jan 23, 9:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'm done until he's gone.

Martyball.

yoyodog

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Jan 23, 2011, 10:25:29 PM1/23/11
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> I'm done until he's gone.

U not gonna go postal on him are ya?


Johnny Morongo

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Jan 23, 2011, 10:30:08 PM1/23/11
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On Jan 23, 6:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'm done until he's gone.

Not to worry... I've got a contract out on him for his slow castration
with a dull pen knife. Oh the pain!

And where the fuck was Happy Jack's Defense in the 1st half?
(Harlan's boy, Brian Thomas, had as bad a half as any OLB I've ever
seen.) Nice punting, Weatherford, you lame piece o shit. Just what
they needed, a short field.

Oh, and yeah, the refs did give two generous spots in the 1st half and
just happened to be looking the other way on a nasty Harrison helmet
to helmet hit.

And still we only lost by 5, and after trailing by 24 at one point.
Amazing.

Drumrboy

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Jan 23, 2011, 10:39:25 PM1/23/11
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On Jan 23, 10:30 pm, Johnny Morongo

And the Refs gave your crappy team 2 extra time outs. What's your
point?

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javaman91

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Jan 23, 2011, 10:59:02 PM1/23/11
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On Jan 23, 9:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'm done until he's gone.

Agreed. Enough is enough....

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papa.carl44

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Jan 24, 2011, 5:26:03 PM1/24/11
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"buRford" <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:28:04 -0800 (PST), John C TX
> <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>X-No-Archive: Yes

>>
>>> I'm done until he's gone.
>>
>>Alec Baldwin made that promise & never kept it.
>>
>
> But I keep my word. I'm just so tired of the same thing every game.
> So, what's the point of wasting my time, if the result can't change until
> Schott's gone?
> That's not saying the Jets'll get a title, with another OC, but there'll
> be a chance.
> There is no chance now... Schott will choke, and the team cannot score in
> the first
> quarter.
>
>>:)
>>
>>They have to fix the offense & if fixing it means sacking Schott
>>fine. I haven't read the paper yet. What happened on that series at
>>the goal line. Why the hell was Sanchez running to the sideline? Was
>>he arguing about the play calling? Was his radio broken?
>
> Sanchez put it on himself, & also said it was the radio, but even so, the
> OC wasn't
> prepared.
> And honestly, it shouldn't be Sanchez always manning up. At some point,
> the OC should man
> up, protect his players, and take responsibility for the lack of
> coordination on the
> offensive side.

Another assistant coach was involved in something hollering at Schott...it
looked like people were trying to get him to decide on a play and he kept
looking at his notes.


Ritchie

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Jan 24, 2011, 5:43:56 PM1/24/11
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On Jan 23, 9:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> I'm done until he's gone.

At today's press conference Rex was asked if Schott was returning next
season and his answer, without any hesitation whatsoever was yes :(

Michael

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Jan 24, 2011, 9:46:36 PM1/24/11
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On Jan 24, 5:26 pm, "papa.carl44" <papadotc...@nospamverizon.net>
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> "buRford" <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote in message
> looking at his notes.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i cant for the life of me understand why schotty is going to retain
his job. i dont think rex is stupid or oblivious to things... perhaps
the offense has really been a rex-schotty hybrid and that is why
schotty is staying on board ? because rex was running a lot of the
offense ?

papa.carl44

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Jan 24, 2011, 11:59:08 PM1/24/11
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"Michael" <mjd...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Well...I started thinking, Rex's D is a lot of guessing and intricate
scheming, lots of tricks too...so maybe that is the game he likes and maybe
he has a much bigger hand in the offense?


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Copp

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Jan 25, 2011, 9:50:19 AM1/25/11
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John C TX <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> X-No-Archive: Yes
>
> > I'm done until he's gone.
>
> Alec Baldwin made that promise & never kept it.
>
> :)
>
> They have to fix the offense & if fixing it means sacking Schott
> fine. I haven't read the paper yet. What happened on that series at
> the goal line. Why the hell was Sanchez running to the sideline? Was
> he arguing about the play calling? Was his radio broken?

I think you guys need to get things in perspective. The Jets
were down by 3 scores at halftime. That means everything done
against Pittsburgh in the second half was in desperation mode.
The goal line problem has at least as much to do with the
desperate situation and trying to make too much happen too
fast and offensive players not getting their mind set for
the play as anything AND going against one of the best
defenses in the league. The Steelers did what the Patriots
should have done and that is make the run game work. Your
defense is good but has weaknesses, and that's what lost
them the game.

papa.carl44

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Jan 25, 2011, 5:43:21 PM1/25/11
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> i cant for the life of me understand why schotty is going to retain
> his job. i dont think rex is stupid or oblivious to things... perhaps
> the offense has really been a rex-schotty hybrid and that is why
> schotty is staying on board ? because rex was running a lot of the
> offense ?
>
> Well...I started thinking, Rex's D is a lot of guessing and intricate
> scheming, lots of tricks too...so maybe that is the game he likes and
> maybe
> he has a much bigger hand in the offense?

I watched the game again last night. What I saw is that on almost
every play Sanchez was put in a situation where he can make the play.
Maybe it is Sanchez. Maybe it is the OL or the coaching of the same
or maybe Rex sees something he likes in Schottenheimer. I don't know.

Here are a few things I noticed.

1. Sanchez did miss some open receivers.

2. He missed Keller in the end zone and he was on the move on that
play. The play calling can be questioned but the play worked it was
Sanchez that didn't finish. I still wish they ran it at least on the
3rd & 4th down. I got depressed looking at the holes LT had on 3rd
down.

3. On the disastrous sack & TD the Steeler CBs were 15 yards off the
line. Isn't there a check down-correct term?-- where MS just throws
it out wide? I am still wondering why they thought a score before
half was critical when they never did all year. If they throw it out
wide to Holmes he had one man to beat. They had had 8 in the box.
Maybe Schott or maybe Sanchez can't process everything or missed it.

4. The coverage on our last kick off was awful. An onside kick would
have been a better choice. I know that is hindsight but our ST teams
sucked especially our punter. Maybe Weatherford can't kick in the
cold?

The entire first half they were flat...dead, no enthusiasm at all. A
checkdown wide with any safety support is a bad idea....but they should have
had something going on, they seem to have some things that work really well,
but they never seem to stick with those things like most successful teams
do, I was indoctrinated with if it works keep doing it till they stop it.
My previous point is the O scheme looks a lot like the D scheme in that it
is attempting to guess and catch the opponent in something and if it doesn't
work...it really doesn't work.


papa.carl44

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Jan 25, 2011, 5:44:51 PM1/25/11
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"Copp" <cr7...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And..you are right. The same issues regarding no pass rush come to play,
there are some real weaknesses in the front game...obviously.


papa.carl44

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Jan 25, 2011, 10:23:06 PM1/25/11
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> i cant for the life of me understand why schotty is going to retain


> his job. i dont think rex is stupid or oblivious to things... perhaps
> the offense has really been a rex-schotty hybrid and that is why
> schotty is staying on board ? because rex was running a lot of the
> offense ?
>
> Well...I started thinking, Rex's D is a lot of guessing and intricate
> scheming, lots of tricks too...so maybe that is the game he likes and
> maybe
> he has a much bigger hand in the offense?

I watched the game again last night. What I saw is that on almost


every play Sanchez was put in a situation where he can make the play.
Maybe it is Sanchez. Maybe it is the OL or the coaching of the same
or maybe Rex sees something he likes in Schottenheimer. I don't know.

Here are a few things I noticed.

1. Sanchez did miss some open receivers.

2. He missed Keller in the end zone and he was on the move on that
play. The play calling can be questioned but the play worked it was
Sanchez that didn't finish. I still wish they ran it at least on the
3rd & 4th down. I got depressed looking at the holes LT had on 3rd
down.

3. On the disastrous sack & TD the Steeler CBs were 15 yards off the
line. Isn't there a check down-correct term?-- where MS just throws
it out wide? I am still wondering why they thought a score before
half was critical when they never did all year. If they throw it out
wide to Holmes he had one man to beat. They had had 8 in the box.
Maybe Schott or maybe Sanchez can't process everything or missed it.

4. The coverage on our last kick off was awful. An onside kick would
have been a better choice. I know that is hindsight but our ST teams
sucked especially our punter. Maybe Weatherford can't kick in the
cold?

__________________________________________________________________
I watched it again John and didn't see what you saw, but TV gives us a
terrible view to really evaulate...what I saw was very good coverage on the
part of the Steelers and a lot of hurry up pressure in the first half...the
second half they woke up and the results showed it.


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Drumrboy

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Jan 26, 2011, 9:37:08 AM1/26/11
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On Jan 26, 12:51 am, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On 25 Jan 2011 14:02:31 -0000, "d530" <d...@polbox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 1/23/2011 22:30, Johnny Moron wrote:
> >> On Jan 23, 6:49 pm, buRford<buRf...@buR.ford.com>  wrote:

> >>> I'm done until he's gone.
>
> >>Not to worry... I've got a contract out on him for his slow castration
> >>with a dull pen knife.  Oh the pain!
>
> >At least he has some balls to work with, Johnny Moron. All you have is
> >a leaky vagina with 800 gallons of Elton John's sperm oozing out.

>
> >>And where the fuck was Happy Jack's Defense in the 1st half?
>
> >At your home fucking your mother. She was offering a special: rim job,
> >straight fuck and a meatball hero for $7.99.

>
> >> (Harlan's boy, Brian Thomas, had as bad a half as any OLB I've ever
> >> seen.)  Nice punting, Weatherford, you lame piece o shit.  Just what
> >> they needed, a short field.
>
> >And you provide your boyfriends just what they needed: a short head so
> >they can rest their drink while you suck them off.

>
> >>Oh, and yeah, the refs did give two generous spots in the 1st half and
> >>just happened to be looking the other way on a nasty Harrison helmet
> >>to helmet hit.
>
> >The only helmets you see are purple ones ramming in and out of yer
> >mouth.

>
> >> And still we only lost by 5, and after trailing by 24 at one point.
> >> Amazing.
>
> >You are just as stupid and delusional as that Fireman douchebag and
> >Craig Carton.
>
> Ooh, another internet toughie eunuch on the loose.
> I know I'm impressed.

I thought you were done. Did "Shotty" quit? I must have missed it.

papa.carl44

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Jan 27, 2011, 4:54:34 AM1/27/11
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> _________________________________________________________________
>> I watched it again John and didn't see what you saw, but TV gives us a
>> terrible view to really evaulate...what I saw was very good coverage on
>> the
>> part of the Steelers and a lot of hurry up pressure in the first
>> half...the
>> second half they woke up and the results showed it.
>
>
> I didn't say we didn't get our ass kicked in the first half just what
> I saw.
>
> I turned on the NFL network last night & they were showing it again.
> That play where they sacked & scored the TD still makes me crazy. I
> was bitching all year that they always took a knee at half & then
> this. It is interesting what they do with the coverage, & although
> you can't see down field, I don't know how someone wasn't open. It is
> roughly at 3:50.
>
> http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81de025e/Jets-vs-Steelers-highlights


Wouldn't it be nice to have the entire view...see what it was really all
about?


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papa.carl44

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Jan 27, 2011, 7:56:55 PM1/27/11
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"John C TX" <johnc...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> > _________________________________________________________________
> >> I watched it again John and didn't see what you saw, but TV gives us a
> >> terrible view to really evaulate...what I saw was very good coverage on
> >> the
> >> part of the Steelers and a lot of hurry up pressure in the first
> >> half...the
> >> second half they woke up and the results showed it.
>
> > I didn't say we didn't get our ass kicked in the first half just what
> > I saw.
>
> > I turned on the NFL network last night & they were showing it again.
> > That play where they sacked & scored the TD still makes me crazy. I
> > was bitching all year that they always took a knee at half & then
> > this. It is interesting what they do with the coverage, & although
> > you can't see down field, I don't know how someone wasn't open. It is
> > roughly at 3:50.
>
> >http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81de025e/Jets-v...

>
> Wouldn't it be nice to have the entire view...see what it was really all
> about?


They have an online replay that they charge there are some nuts like
us that would pay for the coaching views. It isn't like the opponents
don't see it so it isn't a secret.

Masochists pay for it....most die hard Jets' fans are masochists too.


Tutor

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Jan 28, 2011, 2:24:12 PM1/28/11
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On Jan 23, 11:00 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 19:30:08 -0800 (PST), Johnny Morongo

>
> <j.mireh...@harmonicconcordance.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 23, 6:49 pm, buRford <buRf...@buR.ford.com> wrote:
> >> I'm done until he's gone.
>
> >Not to worry... I've got a contract out on him for his slow castration
> >with a dull pen knife.  Oh the pain!
>
> >And where the fuck was Happy Jack's Defense in the 1st half?
> >(Harlan's boy, Brian Thomas, had as bad a half as any OLB I've ever
> >seen.)  Nice punting, Weatherford, you lame piece o shit.  Just what
> >they needed, a short field.
>
> >Oh, and yeah, the refs did give two generous spots in the 1st half and
> >just happened to be looking the other way on a nasty Harrison helmet
> >to helmet hit.
>
> And he also hit Sanchez while he was on the ground, in the 2nd half.
> Couldn't believe that one, after Sanchez slid.

>
>
>
>
>
> >And still we only lost by 5, and after trailing by 24 at one point.
> >Amazing.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

yeah Steelers always seen to get the calls. Even more than the
Pats... With them, the refs throw the flag whenever Brady gets teary
eyed. But the Steelers are the kings of getting the calls. There was
an awful lot of holding by the steelers in this game that could have
been called.

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