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Michael
May 15, 2012, 3:41:38 PM5/15/12
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
"The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
bleaker.
Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
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OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
That is serious shit.
Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
greased rail to hell.
"The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
bleaker.
Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
************************************************************************************************************
OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
That is serious shit.
Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
greased rail to hell.
Johnny Morongo
May 15, 2012, 4:10:59 PM5/15/12
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is ain't exactly clear...
Michael
May 15, 2012, 4:21:20 PM5/15/12
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On May 15, 4:10 pm, Johnny Morongo <Moro...@Burf.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/2012 12:41 PM, Michael wrote:
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> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
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> > "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> > according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> > hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> > bleaker.
>
> > Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> > essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
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> > ************************************************************************************************************
> On 5/15/2012 12:41 PM, Michael wrote:
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> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
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> > "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> > according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> > hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> > bleaker.
>
> > Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> > essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>
>
> > OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> > Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> > 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> > on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> > cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> > temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> > geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> > Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> > are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> > That is serious shit.
>
> > Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> > greased rail to hell.
>
> And wait for December 21st. Gonna be SOMETHING happening here. What it
> is ain't exactly clear...- Hide quoted text -
> > OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> > Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> > 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> > on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> > cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> > temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> > geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> > Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> > are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> > That is serious shit.
>
> > Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> > greased rail to hell.
>
> And wait for December 21st. Gonna be SOMETHING happening here. What it
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dunno if you are poo poo'ing that story or being serious about the
mayan long count reference... at any rate... the speed of the current
mass extinction event that is under way is nutz. the cause is even
more so. i got my head up my ass with every day life like the rest of
the world, but i cant help but realize that our wonderful species has
gotten out of hand. we deserve what we get... and it is coming...
soon.
Papa Carl
May 15, 2012, 5:55:01 PM5/15/12
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"Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:joud8n$fsl$1...@dont-email.me...
There's a man with a gun over there, telling me I got to beware...
I'ts time to stop children, what's that sound, everybody look what's goin
down....
Papa Carl
May 15, 2012, 5:55:44 PM5/15/12
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I'm feelin' you Michael....and I think it is a big deal....you are correct.
Michael
May 15, 2012, 6:09:27 PM5/15/12
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papa... 1/3 of the species wiped out in only 40 years ?!?!?!. by
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us... we suck !
Papa Carl
May 15, 2012, 6:57:31 PM5/15/12
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with on a regular basis. He told me I was nuts, reactionary and reading too
much "Obama bullshit"....after I presented some facts he informed me I did
not love America, we could solve all of our energy problems if we'd just
open up everything here and drill and only Muslim loving fags are putting
out this crap about global warming etc. So...I smiled, made some decisions
and will not be dealing with him anymore. But....he's entitled to his
opinion. I think we have a serious crisis on our hands.
Michael
May 15, 2012, 8:09:35 PM5/15/12
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serious crisis is an understatement... the writing is on the wall. we
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set fire to our own house long ago and now the flames have reached the
foundation. burning fossil fuels is just a small portion of the
offense. population forcast is also a problem given the water table.
we'll have water problems long before we run out of hydrocarbons.
desalinzation is an option, but you need a lot of energy to run fresh
water condensers. where do you get the energy to run desalinization
plants ??? we'll probably still be hooked on hydrocarbons when
desalinizatio becomes a matter of life and death for whole
populations.
Johnny Morongo
May 15, 2012, 9:03:49 PM5/15/12
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21/21. As a matter of fact, I'm presenting a 12 session workshop
entitled "Remembering 2012." If you're interested send me a note, off
group, and I'll send you somethings about the program.
Papa Carl
May 15, 2012, 11:44:41 PM5/15/12
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like to hear your program.
John C TX
May 16, 2012, 12:56:17 AM5/16/12
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Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at best. I woud say intentionally misleading.
It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_report/health_of_our_planet/
It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_report/health_of_our_planet/
Michael
May 16, 2012, 10:55:28 AM5/16/12
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John... Look beyond this little keyhole... 1/3" of all living species
are under great pressure. Since the trend of humans usurping more land
and resources is going to continue accelerate, the writing is on the
wall for the approx 1/3" of all living things currently under pressure
to survive. It is not tree hugging bull shit. We are in the middle of
a mass extinction event; the Holocene extinction. I have heard the
last 40 years referred to as the "Holocene Extinction Acceleration"
given the tremendous rate of the event's very recent progress due to
man's influence. So, you are correct... This article does not point
directly to 1/3 of the species being wiped out. It points to the fact
that the rate of consumption and the rate of acceleration of
consumption of land and resources all but guarantees we'll finish off
about 1/3 of the species in a startlingly short amount of time. Only
a political minded fool would turn his back on the facts.
Papa Carl
May 16, 2012, 12:39:41 PM5/16/12
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"John C TX" wrote in message
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fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet. I'm
talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
Johnny Morongo
May 16, 2012, 8:05:38 PM5/16/12
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desert. A well out back would be nice.
Papa Carl
May 17, 2012, 12:23:26 AM5/17/12
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"Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
the last year we have been on bottled water due to severe problems with the
systems. Even when you have it sometimes, you can't drink it.
Michael
May 17, 2012, 10:29:20 AM5/17/12
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On May 16, 12:39 pm, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@NOTATverizon.net> wrote:
> "John C TX" wrote in messagenews:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
population growth, they'll be big problems in a generation's time.
that brings us back to energy sources... desalination would of course
solve the expected fresh water issues... what will you use to power
desalination plants ??? that is the key... if you burn fossil fuels to
desalinize sea water in the volume that will be needed in 50 to 100
years, you can kiss the planet goodbye. clean renewable energy is
also the key to water supply
> "John C TX" wrote in messagenews:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
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> Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at best. I
> woud say intentionally misleading.
>
> It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>
> http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
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> http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_r...
> Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at best. I
> woud say intentionally misleading.
>
> It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>
> http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
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> I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
> fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet. I'm
> talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
yep... the water table is the real issue... at the current rate of
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> I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
> fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet. I'm
> talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
population growth, they'll be big problems in a generation's time.
that brings us back to energy sources... desalination would of course
solve the expected fresh water issues... what will you use to power
desalination plants ??? that is the key... if you burn fossil fuels to
desalinize sea water in the volume that will be needed in 50 to 100
years, you can kiss the planet goodbye. clean renewable energy is
also the key to water supply
Michael
May 17, 2012, 10:30:37 AM5/17/12
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On May 17, 12:23 am, "Papa Carl" <papa.c...@NOTATverizon.net> wrote:
> "Johnny Morongo" wrote in messagenews:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
have a friend down there that sets traps for craw daddies... he eats
them too...
> "Johnny Morongo" wrote in messagenews:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
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> On 5/16/2012 9:39 AM, Papa Carl wrote:
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> > "John C TX" wrote in message
> >news:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
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> > Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at
> > best. I woud say intentionally misleading.
>
> > It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>
> >http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
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> >http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_r...
> On 5/16/2012 9:39 AM, Papa Carl wrote:
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> > "John C TX" wrote in message
> >news:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
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> > Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at
> > best. I woud say intentionally misleading.
>
> > It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>
> >http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
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> > I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
> > fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet.
> > I'm talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
>
> And the potential for major problems is acute out here in the high
> desert. A well out back would be nice.
>
> I live next to a major river...that's where we get our water...and twice in
> the last year we have been on bottled water due to severe problems with the
> systems. Even when you have it sometimes, you can't drink it.- Hide quoted text -
> > I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
> > fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet.
> > I'm talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
>
> And the potential for major problems is acute out here in the high
> desert. A well out back would be nice.
>
> I live next to a major river...that's where we get our water...and twice in
> the last year we have been on bottled water due to severe problems with the
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you are a brave man to drink anything that comes out of that river. i
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have a friend down there that sets traps for craw daddies... he eats
them too...
Papa Carl
May 17, 2012, 12:00:38 PM5/17/12
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County NJ....I've never seen crawdaddys....shad, even a whale a couple years
ago.
Papa Carl
May 17, 2012, 2:10:26 PM5/17/12
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"Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
:-) We used to have them in the backyards here....no more....ground water
not safe anymore, deep wells contaminated too.
John C TX
May 21, 2012, 8:31:08 AM5/21/12
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You are the same guy who claimed that the BP spill would be the greatest ecological disaster ever.
John C TX
May 21, 2012, 8:35:07 AM5/21/12
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The one not mentioned enough is there is not enough water to sustain the population growth. Sam Kennison used to have that horrible line about Ethiopians in the desert. He should be screaming at CA & other parts of the SW.
Papa Carl
May 21, 2012, 12:38:58 PM5/21/12
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"John C TX" wrote in message
it is a flat out stupid idea that only works at the expense of another
region. There was a reason that for centuries up centuries people developed
settlements along water sources. Now, on top of that, we have a lot of
issues related to long term pollution. River systems, if treated properly
can do a lot to clean themselves up over time. So what's wrong with Austin
and hippies?
Johnny Morongo
May 21, 2012, 1:32:14 PM5/21/12
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On 5/21/2012 5:35 AM, John C TX wrote:
> On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:10:26 PM UTC-5, Papa Carl wrote:
>> "Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
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>> On 5/16/2012 9:39 AM, Papa Carl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "John C TX" wrote in message
>>> news:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
>>>
>>> Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at
>>> best. I woud say intentionally misleading.
>>>
>>> It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>>>
>>> http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
>>>
>>> http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_report/health_of_our_planet/
>>>
>>>
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>>> I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
>>> fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet.
>>> I'm talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
>>
>> And the potential for major problems is acute out here in the high
>> desert. A well out back would be nice.
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>> :-) We used to have them in the backyards here....no more....ground water
>> not safe anymore, deep wells contaminated too.
>
> I agree about the water. Many people draw parallels between Austin, TX& CA. There are many: high tech, pretty scenery, hippies :)
> On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:10:26 PM UTC-5, Papa Carl wrote:
>> "Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jp1fcq$phv$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> On 5/16/2012 9:39 AM, Papa Carl wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "John C TX" wrote in message
>>> news:1503304.0.1337144177982.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@yndz2...
>>>
>>> Micahel sorry but that article is BS. It is horribly misleaading at
>>> best. I woud say intentionally misleading.
>>>
>>> It doesnt sayy 30% of species are gone. It says if you gto their study
>>>
>>> http://awsassets.panda.org/downloads/lpr_2012_final_120507.pdf
>>>
>>> http://wwf.panda.org/about_our_earth/all_publications/living_planet_report/health_of_our_planet/
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> I think the real issue here is that most of the decline is happening in
>>> fresh water habitats...we have a growing water crisis on this planet.
>>> I'm talking about the need for potable, usable fresh water.
>>
>> And the potential for major problems is acute out here in the high
>> desert. A well out back would be nice.
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>> :-) We used to have them in the backyards here....no more....ground water
>> not safe anymore, deep wells contaminated too.
>
>
> The one not mentioned enough is there is not enough water to sustain the population growth. Sam Kennison used to have that horrible line about Ethiopians in the desert. He should be screaming at CA& other parts of the SW.
Welcome back, from one of those high desert hippies, you knee jerk,
right wing cretin. The issue of water and its increasing scarcity is
one that has no politics to it. It IS DEFINITELY tied to its control
and MONEY, as in who controls the source makes the money. And out here
there is the added issue that the ground water is becoming increasingly
polluted by corporations using the state's water ways as dumping
grounds, such as the Sacramento River, which feeds to state's southern
aquifers. See, it all comes down to the corporate state that justifies
its unconscionably doing what ever the hell they want to for the sake of
the bottom line.
Johnny Morongo
May 21, 2012, 1:39:43 PM5/21/12
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because it has NO culture, more pick up truck gun racks and hog farmers
than any other city in that swamp called Texas, and he's Irish. As for
disliking hippies, it's a carryover from his student days when he was
the NARC in the room.
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 2:34:19 AM5/22/12
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As for hippies I think as long as they are not professional protesters or living off their trust fun(d)...Vive la différence...it makes for a more interesting society.
I don't care your politics have a purpose & keep your hypocrisy to a minimum.
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 2:46:06 AM5/22/12
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I don't know the full details of your water issues but I do remember that farmers buy it cheap & resell it. BS, simple solution change the law & yes even if it is now corporate farms unlike you gralic breath I am about ideas.
:)
It was like the manipulation of power in CA 10 years ago let the consumer pay market & all of sudden laptops, are not on all day, routers, a/c, etc. get turned off. No more brownouts & the traders & producers are done messing with the market.
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 2:38:43 AM5/22/12
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Michael
May 22, 2012, 10:44:44 AM5/22/12
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John...
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The long term effects of the gulf spill have yet to be determined.
You know full well there is still quite a bit being written about
this. I don't know if you remember all of my posts on the gulf spill,
but the crux of it centered around the wanton cover up by BP and their
partners in the federal government and mass media. We went from "no
spill at all", to something quite different. Their tune changed when
BP realized they had no chance to sweep 62m barrels per day under the
carpet.
This is not good old fashioned plum squeezing on my part, but I find
it shocking that you are not horrified that 1/3 of the species on this
planet have been put under life and death pressure in a shockingly
short amount of time. If trends continue, 1/3 of all the living
species on this planet will die off. What else is there left for the
world to have nightmares about ???
Papa Carl
May 22, 2012, 11:38:12 AM5/22/12
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"John C TX" wrote in message
in any of the main stream politics. I actually remember the GOP passing a
vote at their last convention banning any hypocrisy. If they have a trust
fund (which very few people do in that life style) they are not hippies,
they are fakes. To do anything and be legitimate it requires some actual
sacrifice of self. So, while I may not agree with someone's position on
something I will respect them if they are willing to pay the price by their
actions instead of just spouting off words. That's where the relationship
to sports comes in...you have to actually do it and not just talk about it.
Johnny Morongo
May 22, 2012, 11:58:05 AM5/22/12
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>>> CA. There are many: high tech, pretty scenery, hippies :)
>>>
>>> The one not mentioned enough is there is not enough water to sustain the
>>> population growth. Sam Kennison used to have that horrible line about
>>> Ethiopians in the desert. He should be screaming at CA& other parts of
>>>
>>> The one not mentioned enough is there is not enough water to sustain the
>>> population growth. Sam Kennison used to have that horrible line about
>>> the SW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Deciding to develop and live in a dessert is not a miracle of
>>> engineering, it is a flat out stupid idea that only works at the expense
>>> of another region. There was a reason that for centuries up centuries
>>> people developed settlements along water sources. Now, on top of that,
>>> we have a lot of issues related to long term pollution. River systems,
>>> if treated properly can do a lot to clean themselves up over time. So
>>> what's wrong with Austin and hippies?
>>
>> Don't mind Tex. He lives in Houston and has penvy issues about it,
>> because it has NO culture, more pick up truck gun racks and hog farmers
>> than any other city in that swamp called Texas, and he's Irish. As for
>> disliking hippies, it's a carryover from his student days when he was
>> the NARC in the room.
>
> I am not sure who posts more goofy things but you at least made me laugh.
Well that WAS the desired effect. Glad you got it. Your trip photos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Deciding to develop and live in a dessert is not a miracle of
>>> engineering, it is a flat out stupid idea that only works at the expense
>>> of another region. There was a reason that for centuries up centuries
>>> people developed settlements along water sources. Now, on top of that,
>>> we have a lot of issues related to long term pollution. River systems,
>>> if treated properly can do a lot to clean themselves up over time. So
>>> what's wrong with Austin and hippies?
>>
>> Don't mind Tex. He lives in Houston and has penvy issues about it,
>> because it has NO culture, more pick up truck gun racks and hog farmers
>> than any other city in that swamp called Texas, and he's Irish. As for
>> disliking hippies, it's a carryover from his student days when he was
>> the NARC in the room.
>
> I am not sure who posts more goofy things but you at least made me laugh.
were pretty neat. Where were you?
Johnny Morongo
May 22, 2012, 12:03:37 PM5/22/12
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> It was like the manipulation of power in CA 10 years ago let the consumer pay market& all of sudden laptops, are not on all day, routers, a/c, etc. get turned off. No more brownouts& the traders& producers are done messing with the market.
What a short memory you have. You just might recall the name ENRON?
That corporation ripped Californians off to an almost obscene point, and
you still think it's about people turning off their lap tops. Duh!
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 1:05:44 PM5/22/12
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I am taking a shot at you now. You always claim the righties have no sense of humor. You are half right but extremist to me generally have no sense of humor. That was a FUCKING joke. You missed it like often do & go rightie leftie. It was written knowing you & Johnny were reading. It wasn't right or left it was written with the knowledge that you & johnny were reading & no offense was meant. When an Italian guy gets it I know that it was obviously was easy to pick up. Oblique is not my style unless I am answering an idiot which I don't group you in.
So you know there is a part of Austin that revels in the "hippie" culture. Hell, they have bumper stickers saying Keep Austin Weird. I love that stuff. Some of those wierdos are businessmen, teachers, etc. & plenty are my friends.
As for the trust fund you again miss what to me is obvious. Hippies don't have trust funds rich people do. "Hippies" w/ no purpose are no different than trust fund babies (Woody Johnson). I said have a purpose. If you protest & are sacrificing & not taking $ for doing so you have a purpose.
Sorry but you do that too often. Have good night.
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 1:16:09 PM5/22/12
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Read what I wrote. The power producers & traders followed the law but it was horribly unethical. Gray & the CA House should have changed it which would have blown up their scheme. Remember Gray saying "Duh?" The price of power could not be raised by law so consumers did not stop using power.
John Anderson had it right in 1980. Tax energy as it slows it use & pays the bills.
John C TX
May 22, 2012, 1:23:46 PM5/22/12
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I missed where you said you might not get it. How can you miss the clarity of my writing?
:)
Have a good night
Papa Carl
May 22, 2012, 7:05:40 PM5/22/12
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"John C TX" wrote in message
about the GOP and their platform????? I was not serious. I don't like
granola, don't smoke pot, and think totally vegan and organic is bizarre.
My response was written knowing YOU were reading...and you
responded...lighten up. But...I do like your take on Woody Johnson. That
guy never even had a job till he was well into adulthood. I've always had
multiple jobs since I was 14...so for that alone I take issue with Woody :-)
I didn't bring up "hippie"....you did, I didn't bring up protestors on their
trust funds, you did. Relax...I think I'm actually agreeing with you....I
can stand professional protestors....and today I have a real problem with
self appointed professional transplant patients who try and dictate policy
on things they really don't know much about. My point here is today
hypocrisy is all over the place. I have little use for the extreme right or
left but I do know the right reacts a Hell of a lot quicker to any perceived
criticism.
Papa Carl
May 22, 2012, 7:08:01 PM5/22/12
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"John C TX" wrote in message
friends. I don't fit in with the real left...they say I'm too militant.
Papa Carl
May 22, 2012, 8:22:01 PM5/22/12
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"Papa Carl" wrote in message
news:qcydnWzu9aNbhiHS...@giganews.com...
Should say CAN'T STAND.....and I can't.
Johnny Morongo
May 22, 2012, 9:04:54 PM5/22/12
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>
> John Anderson had it right in 1980. Tax energy as it slows it use& pays the bills.
And did you vote for Anderson in '80? I did. Actually, I've been on a
> John Anderson had it right in 1980. Tax energy as it slows it use& pays the bills.
losing side in every Presidential election since '64 (mt first vote).
Guess I really know how to pick 'em.
JKConey
May 22, 2012, 10:03:52 PM5/22/12
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On 5/15/2012 3:41 PM, Michael wrote:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
>
> "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> bleaker.
>
> Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>
> ************************************************************************************************************
>
> OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> That is serious shit.
>
> Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> greased rail to hell.
I like it but think about this; 99.9% of all the secies to have ever
lived on the planet is already extinct. It's natural for us to
eventually follow the rest. This is how we roll.... Live Long And Prosper.
--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
www.facebook.com/MyConeyIslandMemories
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
>
> "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> bleaker.
>
> Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>
> ************************************************************************************************************
>
> OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> That is serious shit.
>
> Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> greased rail to hell.
I like it but think about this; 99.9% of all the secies to have ever
lived on the planet is already extinct. It's natural for us to
eventually follow the rest. This is how we roll.... Live Long And Prosper.
--
JK Sinrod
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com
www.facebook.com/MyConeyIslandMemories
Michael
May 23, 2012, 11:03:47 AM5/23/12
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On May 22, 10:03 pm, JKConey <TheConeyIsland...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/15/2012 3:41 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
>
> > "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> > according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> > hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> > bleaker.
>
> > Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> > essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>
> > ************************************************************************************************************
> On 5/15/2012 3:41 PM, Michael wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
>
> > "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
> > according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
> > hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
> > bleaker.
>
> > Humanity is outstripping the Earth's resources by 50 percent —
> > essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>
>
> > OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> > Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> > 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> > on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> > cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> > temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> > geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> > Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> > are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> > That is serious shit.
>
> > Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> > greased rail to hell.
>
> I like it but think about this; 99.9% of all the secies to have ever
> lived on the planet is already extinct. It's natural for us to
> eventually follow the rest. This is how we roll.... Live Long And Prosper.
>
> --
> JK Sinrodwww.MyConeyIslandMemories.comwww.facebook.com/MyConeyIslandMemories- Hide quoted text -
> > OK... The largest extinction event we have had on the planet was the
> > Permian-Triassic event. Also referred to as "The Great Dying". About
> > 96 % of the living things in the water and 70 % of the living things
> > on the land crapped out. The cause is still debated, but the probable
> > cause was volcanism in the Siberian Traps. That lead to higher water
> > temps and release of methane hydrates into the sea. Going by current
> > geological evidence, the event took at least a few millennia.
>
> > Now check this out... In only about 40 years 1/3 of the living things
> > are on the verge of being wiped out due to man made influences.
>
> > That is serious shit.
>
> > Damn glad I got football to think about as we all ride the planet on a
> > greased rail to hell.
>
> I like it but think about this; 99.9% of all the secies to have ever
> lived on the planet is already extinct. It's natural for us to
> eventually follow the rest. This is how we roll.... Live Long And Prosper.
>
> --
>
> - Show quoted text -
Guess again, Mr. Darwin...
> - Show quoted text -
As I pointed out before... The most significant extenction event the
planet has ever gone through was the Permian-Triassic event known as
"The Great Dying". 96 % of the living things in the water crapped out
and 70 % to 80 % of the living thigs on land crapped out.
That little event took at the very least 10,000 years to occur. It
may have taken as long as 60,000 years. During that time alone, the
process of evolution was able to "set the table" for a recovery as a
result of postitive mutations and natural adaptation.
The current mass extinction event has taken about 60 years to progress
to the point that at least 30 % of all living things are in imanent
jeapordy of dying off. If current man made trends dont change (and
they wont), in another 40 to 60 years, 30 % or more of the living
things on the planet are going to be "Casper"... as in the friendly
ghost.
Understand ???
If you dont understand what that means... Let me explain...
It means *NO RECOVERY THIS TIME" so long as humans continue to infest
the planet. And I do me *INFEST*
They only place we'll see bears and big cats is on the side of
football helmets.
John C TX
May 23, 2012, 2:26:05 PM5/23/12
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Anderson, didn't vote, Bush, Bush, Nader, Nader, Nader, Nader
John C TX
May 24, 2012, 3:45:35 AM5/24/12
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You too bud...thinking of figuring out how to crash Johnny's summer party.
Johnny Morongo
May 24, 2012, 2:47:30 PM5/24/12
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>>> the
>>> SW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Deciding to develop and live in a dessert is not a miracle of engineering,
>>> it is a flat out stupid idea that only works at the expense of another
>>> region. There was a reason that for centuries up centuries people
>>> developed
>>> settlements along water sources. Now, on top of that, we have a lot of
>>> issues related to long term pollution. River systems, if treated properly
>>> can do a lot to clean themselves up over time. So what's wrong with
>>> Austin
>>> and hippies?
>>
>> OK, now I have no sense of humor.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> I missed where you said you might not get it. How can you miss the clarity
>> of my writing?
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Have a good night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Relax....take it easy....I LIKE you....you are one of my only conservative
>> friends. I don't fit in with the real left...they say I'm too militant.
>
> You need to get out more.
>
> :)
>
> You too bud...thinking of figuring out how to crash Johnny's summer party.
Who invited you? ;)
>>> SW.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> Deciding to develop and live in a dessert is not a miracle of engineering,
>>> it is a flat out stupid idea that only works at the expense of another
>>> region. There was a reason that for centuries up centuries people
>>> developed
>>> settlements along water sources. Now, on top of that, we have a lot of
>>> issues related to long term pollution. River systems, if treated properly
>>> can do a lot to clean themselves up over time. So what's wrong with
>>> Austin
>>> and hippies?
>>
>> OK, now I have no sense of humor.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> I missed where you said you might not get it. How can you miss the clarity
>> of my writing?
>>
>> :)
>>
>> Have a good night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Relax....take it easy....I LIKE you....you are one of my only conservative
>> friends. I don't fit in with the real left...they say I'm too militant.
>
> You need to get out more.
>
> :)
>
> You too bud...thinking of figuring out how to crash Johnny's summer party.
That'd be great! Just do it. What a hoot it'd be. Maybe we can even
coax Michael out of the house, if he hasn't smashed his head into too
many wall by then.
Johnny Morongo
May 24, 2012, 2:48:32 PM5/24/12
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Johnny Morongo
May 24, 2012, 2:54:03 PM5/24/12
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and, form clues you've dropped along the years, they read to me that you
know it.
Papa Carl
May 24, 2012, 3:26:33 PM5/24/12
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"Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jplvo4$6m4$1...@dont-email.me...
When I made my career change one of the jobs I got was with a Crisis
Center...doing the "Youth" emergency outreach stuff...you have NO idea how
many nice houses (from the outside) have holes in the walls all over the
place. I suggested to a father once to just move to a place that had
cinderblock walls, the kid was a spoiled brat, let him break his hands a few
times.
Michael
May 24, 2012, 4:33:29 PM5/24/12
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>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Guess again, Mr. Darwin...
>
> > As I pointed out before... The most significant extenction event the
> > planet has ever gone through was the Permian-Triassic event known as
> > "The Great Dying". 96 % of the living things in the water crapped out
> > and 70 % to 80 % of the living thigs on land crapped out.
>
> > That little event took at the very least 10,000 years to occur. It
> > may have taken as long as 60,000 years. During that time alone, the
> > process of evolution was able to "set the table" for a recovery as a
> > result of postitive mutations and natural adaptation.
>
> > The current mass extinction event has taken about 60 years to progress
> > to the point that at least 30 % of all living things are in imanent
> > jeapordy of dying off. If current man made trends dont change (and
> > they wont), in another 40 to 60 years, 30 % or more of the living
> > things on the planet are going to be "Casper"... as in the friendly
> > ghost.
>
> > Understand ???
>
> > If you dont understand what that means... Let me explain...
>
> > It means *NO RECOVERY THIS TIME" so long as humans continue to infest
> > the planet. And I do me *INFEST*
>
> > They only place we'll see bears and big cats is on the side of
> > football helmets.
>
> That will be for another world. 2012 will change all of that
lets hope so... i get the feeling we are on the cusp of a paradigm
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Guess again, Mr. Darwin...
>
> > As I pointed out before... The most significant extenction event the
> > planet has ever gone through was the Permian-Triassic event known as
> > "The Great Dying". 96 % of the living things in the water crapped out
> > and 70 % to 80 % of the living thigs on land crapped out.
>
> > That little event took at the very least 10,000 years to occur. It
> > may have taken as long as 60,000 years. During that time alone, the
> > process of evolution was able to "set the table" for a recovery as a
> > result of postitive mutations and natural adaptation.
>
> > The current mass extinction event has taken about 60 years to progress
> > to the point that at least 30 % of all living things are in imanent
> > jeapordy of dying off. If current man made trends dont change (and
> > they wont), in another 40 to 60 years, 30 % or more of the living
> > things on the planet are going to be "Casper"... as in the friendly
> > ghost.
>
> > Understand ???
>
> > If you dont understand what that means... Let me explain...
>
> > It means *NO RECOVERY THIS TIME" so long as humans continue to infest
> > the planet. And I do me *INFEST*
>
> > They only place we'll see bears and big cats is on the side of
> > football helmets.
>
> That will be for another world. 2012 will change all of that
change. so do a lot of people... but that is not gifted insight. it
is a product of wishful thinking for those that realize the
circumstances and more importantly, what caused them. 2013 will come
along and it will sill be shit. no paradigm change. no new
enlightenment. no catharsis.
Johnny Morongo
May 24, 2012, 4:46:52 PM5/24/12
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heart. Step up to the shift and embrace it. It's either that or
continue to slam your helmet-less head into walls, brick ones at that,
as Papa suggests.
Papa Carl
May 24, 2012, 6:11:05 PM5/24/12
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"Johnny Morongo" wrote in message news:jpm6nu$m2o$1...@dont-email.me...
On 5/24/2012 1:33 PM, Michael wrote:
> On May 24, 2:54 pm, Johnny Morongo<Moro...@Burf.com> wrote:
>> On 5/23/2012 8:03 AM, Michael wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On May 22, 10:03 pm, JKConey<TheConeyIsland...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/15/2012 3:41 PM, Michael wrote:
>>
>>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47421743/ns/technology_and_science-science/
>>
>>>>> "The world's biodiversity is down 30 percent since the 1970s,
>>>>> according to a new report, with tropical species taking the biggest
>>>>> hit. And if humanity continues as it has been, the picture could get
>>>>> bleaker.
>>
>>>>> essentially using the resources of one and a half Earths every year"
>>
>>>>> ***************************************************************************��*********************************
>>
We are at a "millennium movement" or millennium change....or as Michael says
a paradigm shift....it will not continue to work the way it has been, and
some are far too slow at recognizing this. OMHO
John C TX
May 29, 2012, 10:46:12 AM5/29/12
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> > Anderson, didn't vote, Bush, Bush, Nader, Nader, Nader, Nader
>
> Commie!
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