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Interesting Take on Moss at the JetsBlog.com

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Harlan Lachman

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Oct 6, 2010, 11:44:23 PM10/6/10
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I don't know if these stats are true or false. If true, it is one of
those compelling arguments and would not bode well for the Pats unless
their D is transformed before the end of this season to the quality of
its early SB teams.

I apologize to MegaTell for taking this out of context so his first
comments may not seem to make sense.

As for his conclusion, as a Jets fan, I hope he be right.

h

MegaTell
OCT 06, 2010, 1:15 PM AT 1:15 PM #

Horrible Misleading analysis. Here is a better one:

The Pats defense is not what it once was. We all forget that there never
was an argument

Daunte Culpepper (stats with Randy Moss)
QB Rtg: 92.8
TD: 129
INT: 74
(stats without Randy Moss)
QB Rtg: 71.1
TD: 20
INT: 32

Tom Brady (stats with Randy Moss)
TD: 78
INT: 21
QB Rtg: 106.7
(stats without Randy Moss)
QB Rtg: 88.4
TD: 147
INT: 78

An old Randall Cunningham [HL, I assume with Moss]
3,704 Yds
34 TDs (career high by 10),
106.0 QB Rtg (career high by 15),
8.0 TD percentage (career high by 2.3 percent)

People buy into hype and forget Tom Brady was a solid way above average
game manager who can bring a team back if he had to. Randy Moss made him
Peyton Manning. Randy Moss made Donte Culpepper and Eddie George NFL MVP
candidates.
He also made Welker open underneath but no more. The party s over. The
Pats are dead.

MZ

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Oct 6, 2010, 11:55:39 PM10/6/10
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I made pretty much the same post in the Pats group. :) Nevermind QB
ratings. Just count up the points and compare. 2007 & 2009 were the
highest scoring years in Belichick's tenure (2008 not included because
of Brady's injury, but the Cassel-led team still scored a lot).

This could be due to either Moss or Welker. Most likely, it was due to
having the combination of Moss and Welker. Moss would not be nearly as
effective without Welker (and wasn't, as we saw in last year's playoff
game), and I think we'll soon see that Welker will not be nearly as
effective without Moss.

Same conclusion though. The party's over. The Pats are dead.

MBD

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Oct 7, 2010, 7:26:00 AM10/7/10
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Do you have a link for that article? Thanks in advance. And I agree
that the Pats at least have conceded the season to you guys and probably
even their playoff aspirations.

MBD

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Harlan Lachman

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Oct 7, 2010, 6:03:22 PM10/7/10
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In article <mrWdnaXiy8kj2TDR...@giganews.com>,
MZ <ma...@nospam.void> wrote:

Although you are a mensch, I hope you are right. When it is confirmed,
remind me to send flowers. I hope, unlike in Twain's case that: Reports
of their death are not an exaggeration.

H

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JetsLife

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Oct 7, 2010, 1:52:26 PM10/7/10
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O ye of little faith. Last I checked you still have a damn good team,
a HOF QB and head coach, albeit a confirmed cheater. Further I don't
think Moss is the WR he once was. Obviously the attention he still
commands does wonders for an offense, but I wouldn't be so quick to
pronounce your team dead. You can bet the Pats want to show all the
nattering nabobs of Moss-less negativity they can still compete at a
high level.

Harlan Lachman

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Oct 8, 2010, 4:25:30 PM10/8/10
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In article
<5ddd2948-e2c6-4b17...@t20g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
JetsLife <Jets...@aol.com> wrote:

You're no fun.

h

Harlan Lachman

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Oct 8, 2010, 4:27:09 PM10/8/10
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In article <b9isa69hlli7kl003...@4ax.com>,
buRford <buR...@buR.ford.com> wrote:

> Come on, Harlan... as long as the good guys take care of their own business,
> and win, who
> cares how the Pats, or anyone else plays. The better they play, the more
> satisfying our
> wins are ;)

Winning our division and winning more games than any other team in the
AFC means some of you guys get to freeze your fannies off in January. I
would not mind playing Peyton at our house. If the Pats are dead, we win
one more game than many predicted at the start of the year.

harlan

Grinch

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Oct 9, 2010, 1:48:18 AM10/9/10
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On Oct 6, 11:55 pm, MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
> Same conclusion though.  The party's over.  The Pats are dead.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Moss is a really great receiver. He must be pretty awful as a person
for teams to keep passing him on to the next one like this.

Reminds me of Kevin Mitchell, once of the Mets among seven other
teams. The only MVP of baseball to play on eight teams. I just
Googled him out of curiousity and right now he is facing both criminal
assault charges and a $4 million back tax bill.

Copp

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Oct 18, 2010, 8:45:43 AM10/18/10
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In article <mrWdnaXiy8kj2TDR...@giganews.com>

MZ <m...@nospam.void> wrote:
"Same conclusion though. The party's over. The Pats are dead."

How-ow-ow-ow-ow-ow will they ever score without Moss?
What'd the Jets score against Baltimore, 9?

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