But they are not Giants fans Jeff, they are fans of themselves who will never admit they are wrong...i can recall a few Eli haters in here who "retired" after Eli won it. Nothing more than Trolls really.....ive been a DJ supporter from day 1...i was not in the Eli has more in the tank camp as you recall....only way Eli had more in the tank is if he had an allstar oline. which it was FAR from that....You will fumble and get hurt more if you hang to long in the pocket, Dabes broke him of that habit, thats the main reason for the turn around, pocket awareness. He always had the arm, the accuracy, the size, the Brains....just now he has the pocket awareness and uses his legs. And this should just get better as they surround him with better talent. Better oline/WRs/TEs he can use his smarts and arm more, less running.