Texans Exposing Giant's Defensive Weakness?
hatsnbats
on man matchups. The Giants seemed to struggle with it and the no
backfield look especially looked like it was working well on Big Blue.
I'd think Tim Lewis will need to find an answer for this because if it
were Indy... they would've had 40 points yesterday.
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DoctorElefant
Hats wrote:
> The Texans made a point of spreading the field yesterday to work man
> on man matchups. The Giants seemed to struggle with it and the no
> backfield look especially looked like it was working well on Big Blue.
>
> I'd think Tim Lewis will need to find an answer for this because if it
> were Indy... they would've had 40 points yesterday.
History repeats itself, or at least, it tried to. Remember when Tim
Lewis was with the Steelers? I recall watching the Pats and Raiders run
up some mega-yardage on Pittsburgh by throwing many quick-hitters to
one-on-one coverage. Rich Gannon had 54 pass attempts in one game. The
Giants will have to adjust for it, and they did to some degree
yesterday as the score indicated. One of the things the Giants *did* do
to diffuse the plan was blitz right over center.
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hatsnbats
wrote:
>
>Hats wrote:
>> The Texans made a point of spreading the field yesterday to work man
>> on man matchups. The Giants seemed to struggle with it and the no
>> backfield look especially looked like it was working well on Big Blue.
>>
>> I'd think Tim Lewis will need to find an answer for this because if it
>> were Indy... they would've had 40 points yesterday.
>
>History repeats itself, or at least, it tried to. Remember when Tim
>Lewis was with the Steelers? I recall watching the Pats and Raiders run
>up some mega-yardage on Pittsburgh by throwing many quick-hitters to
>one-on-one coverage. Rich Gannon had 54 pass attempts in one game. The
>Giants will have to adjust for it, and they did to some degree
>yesterday as the score indicated. One of the things the Giants *did* do
>to diffuse the plan was blitz right over center.
>
Yes the pressure up the gut forced Carr into some poor decisions. 10
pts. is indeed 10 pts. but this is Houston...
Kevin McClave
>
> Yes the pressure up the gut forced Carr into some poor decisions. 10
> pts. is indeed 10 pts. but this is Houston...
Given that Carr leads the NFL in completion percentage, I got the
feeling that this was also their kind of game all of the time. That
isn't to say that another team couldn't be successful against the
Giants with it, but if sone other team wants to take itself out of what
it has done successfully to try something it hasn't, then go for it.
They were certainly too passive on D for too much of the game yesterday.
DoctorElefant
Kevin McClave wrote:
> Hats N Bats wrote:
> >
> > Yes the pressure up the gut forced Carr into some poor decisions. 10
> > pts. is indeed 10 pts. but this is Houston...
>
> Given that Carr leads the NFL in completion percentage, I got the
> feeling that this was also their kind of game all of the time.
Funny you should mention that. I only saw the Texans play 2 other games
this year; one was against the Cowboys and the other was against the
Eagles. Carr's completion percentage in those 2 were coincidentally the
2 worst percentages he has had all season by a good margin (55 and 56
perecnt compared to over 60 and even in the 70s in all the other
games.). In both of those games, the Texans hung tough in the first
half, then got clobbered in the second half. Looking back, I think they
tried to stretch the D a little more in the games I saw than they tried
yesterday. It could have been respect for the Giants recent pass rush
success combined with getting sacked 4 times last week at Tennessee.
But I did not see them play the other 5 games, so I don't know what
they did there aside from completing passes with more frequency. It is
certainly a good possibility you raised.
> That
> isn't to say that another team couldn't be successful against the
> Giants with it, but if sone other team wants to take itself out of what
> it has done successfully to try something it hasn't, then go for it.
>
> They were certainly too passive on D for too much of the game yesterday.
I think the Giants expected some lesser execution. The Texans took all
day to drop a pass, get sacked, or turn the ball over.
GaryFL
wrote:
It seems that every time "the pressure" is off Tim Lewis he reverts to
his comfort zone - pun intended. There's got to be some owner stupid
enough to hire him as a head coach somewhere? Please! Get him out of
NY.
IommiRULES
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> on man matchups. The Giants seemed to struggle with it and the no
> backfield look especially looked like it was working well on Big Blue.
Its not the first time this year, every offense does it to one degree or
another (Did you see monday night NE vs Minn, NE was in it the whole 1st
half) and vs a strong vs run and weak secondary like we got you should
EXPECT it. If your D coach does nothing to prepare for it he should be
fired.
>
> I'd think Tim Lewis will need to find an answer for this because if it
> were Indy... they would've had 40 points yesterday.
He has already found an answer to the piece of shit we put on the feild the
1st 3 weeks, my confidence in him is totally restored, especially with the
marginal talent we play with in the secondary. The Giants have only given up
an average of about 10 points a game since the bye week, and thats including
the garbage time points we gave Dallas.
eacan...@hotmail.com
Houston only put up 10 points while Indy can light up anyone for 40
points. Unless it's the playoffs, then it's a different story.
MVen...@aol.com
DoctorElefant wrote:
> Kevin McClave wrote:
> > Hats N Bats wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes the pressure up the gut forced Carr into some poor decisions. 10
> > > pts. is indeed 10 pts. but this is Houston...
> >
> > Given that Carr leads the NFL in completion percentage, I got the
> > feeling that this was also their kind of game all of the time.
>
> Funny you should mention that. I only saw the Texans play 2 other games
> this year; one was against the Cowboys and the other was against the
> Eagles. Carr's completion percentage in those 2 were coincidentally the
> 2 worst percentages he has had all season by a good margin (55 and 56
> perecnt compared to over 60 and even in the 70s in all the other
> games.). In both of those games, the Texans hung tough in the first
> half, then got clobbered in the second half. Looking back, I think they
> tried to stretch the D a little more in the games I saw than they tried
> yesterday. It could have been respect for the Giants recent pass rush
> success combined with getting sacked 4 times last week at Tennessee.
When Lewis reverts to soft zone, I think it's pretty hard to stretch.
Too
many people hanging around 9-13 yards off the ball. Kinda pointless,
too,
when you can pick and chose who you want under the coverage.
DoctorElefant
MVen...@aol.com wrote:
> DoctorElefant wrote:
> > Kevin McClave wrote:
> > > Hats N Bats wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes the pressure up the gut forced Carr into some poor decisions. 10
> > > > pts. is indeed 10 pts. but this is Houston...
> > >
> > > Given that Carr leads the NFL in completion percentage, I got the
> > > feeling that this was also their kind of game all of the time.
> >
> > Funny you should mention that. I only saw the Texans play 2 other games
> > this year; one was against the Cowboys and the other was against the
> > Eagles. Carr's completion percentage in those 2 were coincidentally the
> > 2 worst percentages he has had all season by a good margin (55 and 56
> > perecnt compared to over 60 and even in the 70s in all the other
> > games.). In both of those games, the Texans hung tough in the first
> > half, then got clobbered in the second half. Looking back, I think they
> > tried to stretch the D a little more in the games I saw than they tried
> > yesterday. It could have been respect for the Giants recent pass rush
> > success combined with getting sacked 4 times last week at Tennessee.
>
> When Lewis reverts to soft zone, I think it's pretty hard to stretch.
> Too
> many people hanging around 9-13 yards off the ball. Kinda pointless,
> too,
> when you can pick and chose who you want under the coverage.
Like I said in the rest of that post, I think the Giants expected some
lesser execution. They went "bend but don't break." It wasn't pretty,
but it worked out.