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J D Sal45

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Dec 13, 2001, 10:15:32 AM12/13/01
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As of today...there is no A-Team. Announced today that Eddie Andelman will
leave WEEI at the end of his contract in February. In the meantime, they have
agreed he does not have to finish his shows between now and then on the radio.
So the A-Team is done today. Dale announced Eddie has cleaned out his stuff
from the office and he sounded a little flabergasted Eddie is gone so suddenly.

J D Sal.

Richard Strong

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Dec 13, 2001, 10:59:02 AM12/13/01
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J D Sal45 (jds...@aol.com) wrote:
: As of today...there is no A-Team. Announced today that Eddie Andelman will

: J D Sal.


What will we do now without unceasing talk about hotdogs? Frankly, the
A-team was the weakest link in WEEI's format in my opinion. I will miss
Andelman's connections regarding his ability to get interviews with
celebrities and the movers and shakers in the sports world, but I will
not miss his incessant drivel and stream of conciousness style. I'm sure
Eddie will turn up on another competing radio station in what will be
characterized as a business move. Remember, it's not about the money.

We can only hope that Dale finally gets exposed for being unbelievably
bland and non-controversial and he gets moved at some point, too. I've
heard rumors that Bob Neumier (spelling?) might take over Eddie's spot
in the short term, which would good move to start. We'll see.

-R

Matthew Crane

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:09:22 AM12/13/01
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Richard Strong wrote:


> What will we do now without unceasing talk about hotdogs? Frankly, the
> A-team was the weakest link in WEEI's format in my opinion. I will miss
> Andelman's connections regarding his ability to get interviews with
> celebrities and the movers and shakers in the sports world, but I will
> not miss his incessant drivel and stream of conciousness style.


Listening to Eddie try to construct an argument was like fingers on a
blackboard.

> I'm sure
> Eddie will turn up on another competing radio station in what will be
> characterized as a business move. Remember, it's not about the money.


Actually, in this case, it truly isn't about the money. Eddie hates
Glenn Ordway. When Ordway was program manager, he took away Eddie's
afternoon drive-time show where he ran solo, and stuck him in midday
with a partner.


> We can only hope that Dale finally gets exposed for being unbelievably
> bland and non-controversial and he gets moved at some point, too. I've
> heard rumors that Bob Neumier (spelling?) might take over Eddie's spot
> in the short term, which would good move to start. We'll see.


Neumeier is just as bland, IMHO. I don't necessarily think bland is a
bad thing. Neumeier and Arnold are both intelligent, at least. Ordway
is both colorful AND intelligent, but unfortunately saddles his show
with half-wits like Radatz, Smerlas, and Sheppard.

If the best of Ordway and the best of McDonough on 1510 could be
combined into one show, it would be Boston sportstalk nirvana.

-Matt

Philip Benincasa

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:11:44 AM12/13/01
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Man o Man!

We lose one, we get one back, we lose another. This melodrama will never
end. I wonder why Eddie left. I know he took umbridge with Arnold about the
sale of the Red Sox. Arnold questioned his bias in the bidding process. That
hardly seems reason to leave.

Some hate Andleman, but remember the guy started sports talk radio in
Boston. I remember listening to him in the Mid 80s on WRKO or some such news
station. He was great. I hope he gets a job with another station. He was a
complete homer, but still fun to listen to because he said what he thought
and stood by his ideals. You have to respect that.

Philip Benincasa

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Eric Kniager

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:59:37 AM12/13/01
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Back in 1982 I was in college and working weekends on the Noon to Midnight
shift at a molder in Burlington, MA. The Sports Huddle on Sunday Nights
helped me thru many long and boring shifts!

Mark Edwards

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Dec 13, 2001, 1:44:33 PM12/13/01
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Philip Benincasa wrote:

> <snip> He was a


> complete homer, but still fun to listen to because he said what he thought
> and stood by his ideals. You have to respect that.

I think "complete homer" is an understatement. His total lack of
objectivity when it came to local sports was truly astounding. Despite how much
I hated listening to him I have to give him his props for sticking by his ideals
and being a pioneer in his field. But I can't say that I'm unhappy that he's
gone.

My nightmare scenario is that they bring in Smerlas to replace him!

Mark


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QuiGon8

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Dec 13, 2001, 1:52:28 PM12/13/01
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yeah that took me by surprise too... it makes me think there were some hard
feelings involved because it is unusual for someone to leave so suddenly
under good terms...

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Sullman

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Dec 13, 2001, 5:17:10 PM12/13/01
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I tend to agree with alot of comments, about his place in Boston sports
history.......about how Ordway's show has such a bunch of buffoons with him
now......and how you can only hear so much chatter about Chinese food and
the Bahamas I happened to like listening to him, because I've come to see
he and Dale as the intelligent hosts, compared to Ordways and Dennis and
Callahan's 'colorful shows. They all have their moments.....but Dale and
Eddie were the least childish (well maybe I should say a different type of
childish).

I suspect he'll either ride off into the sunset.....or more likely, grab a
show on 1510 the Zone, perhaps leading into McDonough. That station can
build themselves a good local casting....and seem to have the less play,
more talk type shows.....now they just need a bigger call volume.

Finally....no matter where anybody stands, let us remember who gave us the
Jambalaya Cry in 1996!


Steve

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Chris

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Dec 13, 2001, 3:21:14 PM12/13/01
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jds...@aol.com (J D Sal45) wrote in
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I can't say I am sad to see him go. I was sick to death of hot-dogs, horse
racing and wrestling. It seemed his take on any sporting event came down
to what his favorite bookie thought the line was going to be.

Chris

KMTHALER

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Dec 13, 2001, 4:13:03 PM12/13/01
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I found Eddie annoying...there is only so much Chinese food talk in the Bahamas
one can take. Having said that I am pretty sure that I am right in saying
Eddie was the first Sports talk radio host when back in 1969 WBZ started the
Sportshuddle with Eddie, mark Whitten, Upton Bell and Jim McCarthy. If I am
not mistaken they made a name for themselves by chasing Dick Williams out of
town. Eddie's Fued with Harry Sindin was lengendary. His work with the
charities involved with the Hot Dog safari was selfless and very generous.

As with all media personalities he had his good points and his bad. Listening
to him talk sports was like listening to nails on a chalkboard as he did not
know what he was talking about. Listening to him talk about the business of
sports...that was fascinating as he definately understood that topic cold.

In the end I will not miss Eddie as his time has come and gone. i really like
Dale Arnold a lot and I hope they find a solid partner for him and leave him in
the 10-2 slot. If I had my way that partner would be Sean McAdam. I have a
feeling that WEEI is going to try someone else...probably Bob Lobel which will
not work.

Kent Thaler
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Commissioner all things UPUFF....email me for more details.

Progzine

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Dec 13, 2001, 8:37:14 PM12/13/01
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I'm glad fat Eddie's gone -- he would always think aloud instead of thinking
before speaking. His style was so annoying, and I doubt the guy ever stepped
onto the playing field as a participant in his younger years. Bahamas, hotdogs,
Chinese food, Fabulous Judy, Las Vegas cronies, blah, blah, blah ad nauseam.
Why did he leave? Was he dumped? Any explanation? One feature I hope they never
change is the Touchdown Twins on Tuesdays; Mannix is great. Anyone think
Felger's media pretty boy routine is starting to wear thin? He's all over the
place.

John C., sec. 204

BledtoGLen

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Dec 13, 2001, 8:52:39 PM12/13/01
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Eddie was a mixed bag, a very mixed bag.

I will never forget the day after the Pats Packers Superbowl. I was home sick,
(not just from the game) and the topic of Desmond Howards return came up. Dale
commented that Howard should have been given a taunting penalty for going over
to the pats bench and jumping around. Eddie said that it was a cultural thing.
When Dale stated that jumping around in the endzone is one thing, but to go
over to the pats bench was a little too much and violated the taunting rules,
Eddie flat out called him a racist. He repeated it several more times as they
continued to argue. I thought it was unbelievable..... I haven't heard more
than five hours of Andlemen since.... I know his Hot Dog safari is a wonderful
thing and Jambalaya was really cool, but I can't get past his comments to
Arnold.... Arnold, what can I say besides "Ickypalooky"

BTW, Glenn Ordway has a frim grasp of the obvious. He drives me nuts when he
tells people to stop talking so he can make his point, and then it is something
obvious, and he explains it like he was doling manna from heaven....


ld...@tidewater.net

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:30:39 PM12/13/01
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In my view, Eddie sucked. He was the weakest link as far as real sports
knowledge of all of EEI's hosts are concerned (Gerry Callahan is second
weakest). I know he hates Ordway, thats old news, but Ordway isnt running the
show anymore. And actually, Ordway is very knowledgable about sports, its his
show's format whenever Fred Smerlas is on coupled with the idiot callers they
let on that ultimately pushes that show into lowest common denominator.

As far as his business acumen, I found his self anointing as an business expert
extremely irritating, especially when he would lecture Arnold like a child about
certain topics, treating Dale as a dope.

Kent, you are correct, his time has come and long gone.

I read that Neumeier might be his replacement. I dont like that choice. While I
love Ron Hobson, I dont think he has the on air personality long term to make
it. Lobel would absolutely suck. Michael Holley could work, but he's banned
from EEI, he'll work for 1510. They could get a woman, but all of the Boston
woman columnists cover either hockey or basketball, and you really need someone
who knows baseball and football, the two key sports. I also love Larry Johnson
and Craig Mustard, but doubt they could carry daily show.

EEI's stable of weekenders are all, In my view, generic. Does anyone really know
the difference between Wallich, Dickerson, etc. Lots of young, white, non
substantive "guys". Any of us could replace them without losing a beat.

I think more importantly EEI should reconsider its formatting a bit. 1510's
radio signal up here in Maine is starting to come in loud and clear, which tells
me that they have invested bucks into infrastructure to become a legitimate
competitor, coupled with the hiring of the Globe's writing staff as guests and
hosts.

It will be interesting to see how the competition shakes out, but I think that
Ordway's variety show format gets old after a while and is really hit or miss.
McDonough;s pretentious but serious sports show may build up a good audience
with favorable demographics (read intelligent listeners with money) to allow
Boston to have 2 legit sports talk radio stations.


In article <20011213161303...@mb-ch.aol.com>, kmthaler@aol.
com says...

SamHunt90

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Dec 13, 2001, 9:17:07 PM12/13/01
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Eddy was great in the early days of the Sports Huddle. When he came
over to EEI, his huge ego inspired him to try to be the life of the
party, and he mostly fell flat on his face. The incessant rude
witless remarks rendered him nearly unlistenable.

Still, he was a fan like the rest of us and at times had his finger on
the pulse. Very much of a double-edged sword.

Sam90

Davlo

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Dec 13, 2001, 10:39:16 PM12/13/01
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Good luck to Eddie whatever he does, but I sure won't miss him. The A Team
was the weakest show in my opinion. Eddie only annoyed me with his constant
off topic philibustering, and Dale is too much of a goody-two-shoes Boy
Scout for my tastes. I hope that the mid-day show is Larry Johnson and
Craig Mustard. They're knowledgable and they have a good schtick/chemistry,
whatever you want to call it.

I don't think WEEI has ever been able to recover from losing the Globe
contingent. Bob Ryan was always the brightest and the best whenever he was
a guest. I could do without Pete Sheperd, John Meter-Perel (sp.?), and
especially that blow-hard pompous narcisist John Dennis. Ugh. Hobson and
Mannix are the tops, and they only have one morning a week. I would love
more of those two.

Davlo


Sullman

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Dec 13, 2001, 11:04:52 PM12/13/01
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A point I overlooked....the Globe guys....that really has hurt WEEI.

I was at the Charlie Horse where Sean McDonough broadcasted on 1510
Wednesday....his father and Bob Ryan were both there.....it seems like that
station will develop the more serious talk radio (and may grab Eddie) where
to me, WEEI is becoming --oh what is too obnoxious the phrase?

Also....i must confess, I used to like listening to Sportsfan Radio
overnight on WEEI. What ultimately happened. Are they gone. I think the
ESPN overnight is week.......1510 is part of Sporting NEws Radio, and some
of those same hosts are now here. Did Sporting NEws and Spoirtsfan merge
(and would you believe I liked JT Brick usually, where is he now).

Steve


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Bernard R. Buraczenski

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Dec 14, 2001, 9:49:00 AM12/14/01
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Like so many others, I will not miss Andelman.

However, that being said I don't think he started Sports Talk Radio in
Boston. That honor, I believe belongs to Guy Manilla (spelling?). He did the
6-8 slot on WBZ 5 days a week before "The Sports Huddle" was invented.

One more thing about Eddie. I found his arguments pointless. When Dale would
argue from a logical point of view, Eddie would go off on a tangent and
start spouting all of his "I am a fan" rhetoric.

If he does end up on WZZN, I certainly won't be listening.


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Roger Christie

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Dec 14, 2001, 10:14:44 AM12/14/01
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> Man o Man!
>
> We lose one, we get one back, we lose another. This melodrama will never
> end. I wonder why Eddie left. I know he took umbridge with Arnold about the
> sale of the Red Sox. Arnold questioned his bias in the bidding process. That
> hardly seems reason to leave.
>
> Some hate Andleman, but remember the guy started sports talk radio in
> Boston. I remember listening to him in the Mid 80s on WRKO or some such news
> station. He was great. I hope he gets a job with another station. He was a
> complete homer, but still fun to listen to because he said what he thought
> and stood by his ideals. You have to respect that.
>
> Philip Benincasa
>

Actually, that would be Guy Manella (sp?) with Calling All Sports, circa
1968 or thereabouts.

AllYou!

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Dec 14, 2001, 10:16:04 AM12/14/01
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Gottchya beat. I go back to 1971 in college with Eddie.

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MLD

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Dec 14, 2001, 12:19:54 PM12/14/01
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Andelman had his head too far up in the clouds--I never saw anyone
disrespect his callers as much as he did. Sarcastic, patronizing, rude and
then some if the caller tried to disagree with him no mater how logical the
argument was. In my opinion he was a blow hard who got by on generalities
and not great sports knowledge.
Right now station 1510 has some interesting guests and the discussions are
based on practical experience and knowledge; I hope that it all doesn't get
diluted with a lot of hot air.
MLD
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Matthew Crane

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Dec 14, 2001, 12:39:21 PM12/14/01
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MLD wrote:


> Right now station 1510 has some interesting guests and the discussions are
> based on practical experience and knowledge; I hope that it all doesn't get
> diluted with a lot of hot air.
> MLD

Get ready for the worst. The reason that Eddie is no longer on the air
is because he was negotiating with 1510 while still under contract to
EEI. EEI took him off the air at that point. Eddie's probably going to
be doing a 10-3 show on 1510.

-Matt

SamHunt90

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Dec 14, 2001, 1:23:33 PM12/14/01
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Does anyone remember Steve Fredericks?

Sam90

MikeK33079

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Dec 14, 2001, 4:40:14 PM12/14/01
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>
>
>Does anyone remember Steve Fredericks?
>

He's on WIP 610 in Philadelphia, all sports radio and has been for the last few
years.
Mike

Tikka223

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Dec 14, 2001, 8:08:37 PM12/14/01
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Well I am in the minority about Eddie. I liked him. If he knew everything he
would sound like a know-it-all.and dale would have no place for input. Hay I
dont have time to listen to radio that much. I never catch the early show.
Jerry callihan I never liked . He sounds like an eleatist to me. I have no use
for him. The big fat O show is a circus thats gets tireing after 10 minutes.
News that breaks at 10 in the morning they try to act like its a news flash
during the show and just hapend like they are on top of it. Interupt every
caller before the first sentence is out.Then try to make the caller look like a
dumb jerk rather than discuss the point. They act like they know it all and
have the inside trac instead they dont have a clue. Eddie is open to new ideas
and tries to look at the better side of things. He is respectfull of the people
around and in my opinion not nearly perfect but the bright spot on the
station.
GOOD LUCK TO EDDIE.....

LiveWebcs

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Dec 15, 2001, 5:18:22 PM12/15/01
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I like him but he has no concept of respecting other's opiions. If someone
replies in a manner he considers controversial (even if his co-host doesn't) he
swamps the caller.

I for one won't miss him. Once he is replaced I don't think anyone will care.

buster55

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Dec 16, 2001, 2:29:21 PM12/16/01
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Eddie was entertaining back in the 70s and 80s, but he jumped the
shark awhile ago. OTOH Dale has never been anything more than a
mediocore radio talent. He's reasonably bright and fairly
well-spoken, but:
a) he isn't funny, especially when he tries to be
b) he isn't a reporter with lots of inside connections to get us info
c) he is too middle of the road on all debates
d) he is rather unhip and not as edgy as the Big Show people
There is a reason afterall that he is stuck in that midday show, while
D&C and the Big Show have the more important slots.
(On an unrelated note: I also can't STAND when Arnold does hockey.
With 38 doing so few games this year I'm stuck watching Arnold and
Kluzak for every game.)

What Dale does best (and even then I'm not a big fan of his) is be the
host for a group show, where he doesn't have to carry the load, but
only set up each contributor (like on the Pats sunday shows). They
better get someone with some charisma to be his cohost otherwise he's
gonna fail. Neumeir, Hobson and the other names I'm seeing don't have
nearly enough to make the show interesting. Unfortunately, there
isn't much other talent at EEI to fill in that midday spot.
Donaldson, Wallick, Dickerson et al are all just interchangable guys
with nothing much to add.

GM1

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ld...@tidewater.net wrote in message news:<9vbo8...@drn.newsguy.com>...

> In my view, Eddie sucked. He was the weakest link as far as real sports
> knowledge of all of EEI's hosts are concerned (Gerry Callahan is second
> weakest). I know he hates Ordway, thats old news, but Ordway isnt running the
> show anymore. And actually, Ordway is very knowledgable about sports, its his
> show's format whenever Fred Smerlas is on coupled with the idiot callers they
> let on that ultimately pushes that show into lowest common denominator.


In my view Eddie was and is one of the wittiest and sincere
personalities in the history of Boston talk radio.

As far as "real sports knowledge" is concerned,

Ordway never struck me as anything more than the nasal voiced
announcer of the Celtics post Johnny Most(RIP). Although he displays
reasonable intelligence on the air, his show ultimately resorts into
nothing more than the continual search for controversy on the
slightest rumor and this becomes extremely tiresome.

Callahan and Dennis are obviously trying to compete w/ Howard making
outrageous statements I.E. JD's comments on Bob Dylan's talent level-
just make him sound like an idiot. Stick to sports.

Ted seems like a nice guy although I think he gets too wrapped up in
statistics
and is a little too uptight for my taste.

I have no problem with Dale and I understand that it was probably
difficult to
come come up with counterpoint to Eddie's comments. He was basically
the straight man for Eddie's remarks.

> As far as his business acumen, I found his self anointing as an business expert
> extremely irritating, especially when he would lecture Arnold like a child about
> certain topics, treating Dale as a dope.
>
> Kent, you are correct, his time has come and long gone.

I disagree with you and Kent,
It is precisely the things that Eddie brings to the show that make him
very special and seperates him from the rest of the media.
It's nice to hear someone so quick witted on the air who feels like us
(native Bostonians). Who speaks his mind regardless of the
consequences.
I remember a bit they did a couple of months ago
that was so funny that I couldn't stop laughing.
With all the stuff going on in the world lets remember that sports are
and should be entertainment, an escape and Fun..........I am sure
there are others out there who feel this way. He will be
missed...............
JUMBALAYA

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