Bishop's Arm Strength

[Brad Casemore]

Also from today's edition of www.patriots.com:

"We have liftoff: Rookie quarterback Michael Bishop wowed his teammates with
his arm strength after the late practice Thursday. Standing in one end zone,
Bishop launched throws downfield, the furthest going 85 yards. Bishop also
had bombs of 78, 82 and 84 yards. Long snapper Mike Bartrum got into the act
too, throwing the ball an impressive 79 yards."

[Mark]

Brad Casemore wrote:
>
> Also from today's edition of www.patriots.com:
>
> "We have liftoff: Rookie quarterback Michael Bishop wowed his teammates with
> his arm strength after the late practice Thursday. Standing in one end zone,
> Bishop launched throws downfield, the furthest going 85 yards.

That is damn near the length of the field. I guess that's one aspect of
his game that doesn't need improvement! No wonder he can chuck it 50
yards while he's backpeddling.

[Haya...@webtv.net]

I've posted a similar remark before in another thread, but I'll
post it again here:
Arm strength is not measured by how far you can throw a ball in one of
these long distance throwing competitions. These don't accurately
measure arm strength because they allow a player to take a running start
and heave the ball with a huge wind up and long throwing motion.
Randall Cunningham could throw the ball farther in one of these
exhibitions than Elway could, but John had a far stronger arm because in
GAME SITUATIONS (when a player needs to use a quick set up and release)
Elway could throw with more steam and at longer lengths. Bishop does
have a strong arm, but the trick will be keeping the needed velocity
while they work on his mechanics and release to quicken it up.

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[SamBam]

Randall Cunningham is said to have thrown one 100 yards in practice once
with Philadelphia.

[Mike T]

Apparently Mike Bartrum has done this too - although yesterday he only
managed 80 in his matchup with Bishop.

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[John E Larkspur]

Mark <ma...@mindsprin.com> wrote:

: Brad Casemore wrote:
:>
:> Also from today's edition of www.patriots.com:
:>
:> "We have liftoff: Rookie quarterback Michael Bishop wowed his teammates with
:> his arm strength after the late practice Thursday. Standing in one end zone,
:> Bishop launched throws downfield, the furthest going 85 yards.

: That is damn near the length of the field. I guess that's one aspect of

: his game that doesn't need improvement! No wonder he can chuck it 50
: yards while he's backpeddling.

Okay math majors, if the Pats are on their own 20 yard line and need
to throw a hail mary, how long would Bishop need to hold the ball before
he could throw it to a receiver in the endzone, keeping in mind that the
receiver only needs to be in the endzone when the ball arrives and not
when it's thrown? It'd be something like the time it takes Terry Glenn
to run 80 yards minus the time it takes the ball to travel 80 yards, right?

Lark

[Mike T]

Sounds right.

Bishop might actually be of some value here. Not from the 20 of course.
Under game situations he may be able to heave it a little farther than
Drew - which may be needed on a rare occasion - but his mobility might be an
asset on any hail mary, being better able to hold the ball longer. Perhaps
it might even allow the Pats to send an extra man downfield in some
situations. Accuracy is not a big deal on these plays so I don't see any
serious downside.

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[Mark]

John E Larkspur wrote:
>
>
> Okay math majors, if the Pats are on their own 20 yard line and need
> to throw a hail mary, how long would Bishop need to hold the ball before
> he could throw it to a receiver in the endzone, keeping in mind that the
> receiver only needs to be in the endzone when the ball arrives and not
> when it's thrown? It'd be something like the time it takes Terry Glenn
> to run 80 yards minus the time it takes the ball to travel 80 yards, right?
>
> Lark

On their own 20? Boy, you are a tough cookie.

I suspect the only way Glenn has the time to get down field is if the
same thing happens that happened to Bradshaw in 1972: Busted play, Hail
Fucking Mary and a lot of real, realll good luck.

Still pisses me off to this day. BAH!

OTOH, Stabler's TD was pure genious. Great game, bad ending.

[Haya...@webtv.net]

Assuming he doesn't get chucked or held up at the line, and that the
pattern is a straight out sprint down the field without any cuts, it
would take Glenn about 8-9 seconds to get to the endzone. However, we
should add another 2 seconds or so just for the fact that nobody gets a
clear run down the field like that. I would imagine that the ball would
need about 6 seconds of travel time, so my guess is that the line would
have to protect the QB for about 5 seconds.

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[Mike & Susan Romano]

I may be out of it here, but has it been shown that Bishop has a
stronger arm than Drew? I seem to remember an NFL quarterback
competition where Drew came in second or third behind Brett Favre a few
years back. I find it hard to believe Bishop is stronger than that.
MikeR

Mike T wrote:
>
> Sounds right.
>
> Bishop might actually be of some value here. Not from the 20 of course.
> Under game situations he may be able to heave it a little farther than
> Drew - which may be needed on a rare occasion - but his mobility might be an
> asset on any hail mary, being better able to hold the ball longer. Perhaps
> it might even allow the Pats to send an extra man downfield in some
> situations. Accuracy is not a big deal on these plays so I don't see any
> serious downside.
>
> John E Larkspur <jl...@netcom13.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:7pl5u3$5...@dfw-ixnews13.ix.netcom.com...
>

[CJ]

In article <37BEA740...@mindsprin.com>, Mark <ma...@mindsprin.com>
writes:

>I suspect the only way Glenn has the time to get down field is if the
>same thing happens that happened to Bradshaw in 1972: Busted play, Hail
>Fucking Mary

Yikes! An obscenity in front of the Holy Mother!
Man I don't want to be standing next to you during the next lightning storm.
<G>

CJ

[Mark]

I would never insult Our Mother, but the Catholic version of Her isn't
anybody I give a shit about. That one is just a football cheerleader.

Hehe, could you tell I was pissed at that STOOPID Franco Harris for
being *that* lucky? Torques me to this day. Tatum hammers the ball to
the ground .... oops .... almost the ground.

That was as bad as the bum call (roughing the QB) on Sugar Bear Hamilton
in 1976 vs. the Raiders. Blew our shot at our first SB. We *would*
have creamed the Vikes, as the Raiders went on to do.

[CJ]

In article <37BF25C3...@mindsprin.com>, Mark <ma...@mindsprin.com>
writes:

Would you like to have a stab at my Ben Drief (sp?) voodoo doll. LOL
FYI: Drief was the one that made that horrible call against Sugar Bear!

CJ

[mike]

After two years of watching Bishop at K-state, I'd say yes, his arm is
stronger than Drew's. Remember the overtime loss to Texas A&M last year?
When He chucked the ball about 70+ yards under pressure on the last play
of reg. time. His moblity alone gives him all the time he needs to throw
the ball. I've watched this guy throw 30 yard bullets. Only problem is
that he is very fumble prone.