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StickMan with Sara Evans

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Dec 18, 2001, 1:00:35 PM12/18/01
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but is there someway that Tom Brady can jam his thumb or have a stiff shoulder
Sat. morning? Anything non-serious, but enough to make him less than 100%
percent. I want to see what Drew can do with this team. They finally have a
decent OL, a good running game and I just feel that with Drew in on Sunday they
would have had at least 2 TD's. I wish nothing bad for Brady, but let Drew
start Saturday. I have a horrible feeling that Brady will go 3-12 58 0 TD's 2
INT's in the first half in the MOST IMPORTANT game the Pats have had in the
past 2 years. I can just see the score being 20-3 at the half. If thats the
case, I would love for nothing more than to see Bledsoe get the 2nd half start
and bring them back. If the Pats reach the Super Bowl this year, it's going to
be Bledsoe getting them there...not Brady.

"I'm a little TIRED, I'm a little WIRED, and I just want a little
appreciation."
- Memphis Raines- GONE IN 60 SECONDS


theplayer

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Dec 18, 2001, 1:17:16 PM12/18/01
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Yup, 9-3 as a starter and fans are still bitching. People like you make it
hard for me to be a Pats fan..you give all of us a bad name.


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buster55

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Dec 18, 2001, 7:21:16 PM12/18/01
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I am actually curious as well, but I'm not sure how seriously I want that to
happen. If Bledsoe goes in, and because of rust or whatever, doesn't do
well, we might up losing a need to win game. For better or worse Tom Brady
needs to play the rest of the way.

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Galen Boyer

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Dec 19, 2001, 1:44:12 PM12/19/01
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On 18 Dec 2001, stickm...@cs.comnospam wrote:

> is there someway that Tom Brady can jam

^^^
Hm... :-)

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Dec 19, 2001, 1:53:06 PM12/19/01
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On 18 Dec 2001, stickm...@cs.comnospam wrote:

> I want to see what Drew can do with this team.

I don't and here's why. As far as I have heard, we are going to
trade Drew. He will be highly sought after. The only thing his
doing well in a game would accomplish would be more fodder for
the Brady/Bledsoe argument. It wouldn't make him a _more_ sought
after QB. His record will speak for itself.

So, unless we might still not trade him, there seems to be no
upside to Drew coming in. We can only hurt his trade value if he
were to perform worse than Brady. No matter how he does, the
_only_ two occurencse that can come of it are:

1) His value as a franchise QB stays _intact_ because he
performs great/well/status quo

2) His value is diminished because he performs poorly and
someone might start to doubt his future skills.

Sure, the rest of the Pats world might get their curiosity roused
and maybe satisfied, but that ain't going to help the Pats play
better, while a better draft pick could.

Now, if BB thinks he is the QB to lead us into the playoffs, then
this argument is moot.

Wax Tadpole

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Dec 19, 2001, 10:09:58 PM12/19/01
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LOLOLOL! Damn, how could I have missed that one!!!

- Waxy

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Richard Wood

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Dec 21, 2001, 7:35:51 AM12/21/01
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Bledsoe is NOT a "franchise" QB. He was merely the best we had until Brady
proved he has the potential to be better.

Richard

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Andrew Fleischer

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Dec 21, 2001, 1:31:31 PM12/21/01
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Brady has started 12 NFL games, does this show that at 24 he is better than
Drew Bledsoe? Are you saying Brady is a franchise QB and Bledsoe isn't? Go
ask some NFL GM's if they believe Bledsoe is a franchise QB

Greg Zook

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Dec 21, 2001, 5:15:16 PM12/21/01
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Andrew Fleischer <fleisch...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3C238003...@hotmail.com>...

> Brady has started 12 NFL games, does this show that at 24 he is better than
> Drew Bledsoe? Are you saying Brady is a franchise QB and Bledsoe isn't? Go
> ask some NFL GM's if they believe Bledsoe is a franchise QB
>

Do you have any phone numbers of the GMs? I'll call. I would be VERY
interested to hear what they'd say.

Naren99

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Dec 21, 2001, 6:39:31 PM12/21/01
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<<Bledsoe is NOT a "franchise" QB. He was merely the best we had until Brady
proved he has the potential to be better.

Richard
>>

I've asked this before: exactly what is a "franchise" QB? Apparently it means
nothing except that the QB is very good. How good? I guess good enough that the
team wants to keep him around for a number of years - unless he fails to
deliver or the team doesn't want him around anymore, in which case he isn't
actually a franchise QB.

The term is merely a useless distraction.

-Naren

Richard Wood

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Dec 26, 2001, 9:02:04 PM12/26/01
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NFL GM's have been asked and they don't think Bledsoe ever was a franchise
QB. Read the Sporting News.

Richard

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Richard Wood

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Dec 26, 2001, 9:03:01 PM12/26/01
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Save your money and read the Sporting News. It'll tell you that they don't
think very highly of Bledsoe.

Richard

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Patriot28

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Dec 26, 2001, 9:36:42 PM12/26/01
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<<<NFL GM's have been asked and they don't think Bledsoe ever was a franchise
QB. Read the Sporting News.>>>

Then they don't know what they're talking about. Most teams SPEAK with other
teams, at least ... about trading their starting QB .. in fact the only good
QBs that were anticipated to be starters from college the last few years.. well
none besides Peyton Manning. No one seems happy with their QBs, because there
isnt much talented ones in the league anymore.

Pat28

Andrew Fleischer

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:48:55 AM12/27/01
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Yes, the Sporting News says it all, do you follow Cosmo when it says to dry
your nails a certain way before applying certain polishes?

Andrew Fleischer

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:49:39 AM12/27/01
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Again, a CONE!

Richard Wood

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:36:08 PM12/27/01
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Of course, if I had said the Sporting News said Bledsoe was the greatest QB
ever, then you would think that it was a great publication.

Richard

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Richard Wood

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:36:52 PM12/27/01
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Whatever.

Of course YOU know best.

Richard

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Richard Wood

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Dec 27, 2001, 12:37:22 PM12/27/01
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That's it, insult me and act like a child.

Richard

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> Again, a CONE!

Patriot28

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Dec 27, 2001, 1:07:56 PM12/27/01
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<<<Whatever.
Of course YOU know best.
Richard>>>

Thanks, I figured you'd catch on to that eventually.

Pat28

KMTHALER

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Dec 27, 2001, 1:33:35 PM12/27/01
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Richard Wood wrote:

<<
Of course, if I had said the Sporting News said Bledsoe was the greatest QB
ever, then you would think that it was a great publication.

Richard>>

No...then we would call ANdrew an idiot because everyone knows that the
Sporting News only does baseball well. Football is an after thought to them
and their coverage has always been poor. We might mock TSN by saying things
like...Hey even TSN understands how great Bledsoe is why can't we get Richard
to understand.

Kent Thaler
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Commissioner all things UPUFF....email me for more details.

Richard Wood

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:28:48 PM12/28/01
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But it's not nice to call someone an idiot.

Richard

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KMTHALER

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:35:43 PM12/28/01
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Richard Wood wrote:

<<
But it's not nice to call someone an idiot.

Richard>>

When they are an idiot...hurting their feelings is not something I am so
concerned about. getting them to wake up out of the idiotcy and realize how
stupid they are being is.

PhilW1776

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Dec 28, 2001, 1:36:30 PM12/28/01
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In fact, in New England the preferred form is...
"Whadda you, retahdid?"

-philw (knows from personal experience)

>"Richard Wood" rwoo...@twcny.rr.com

>But it's not nice to call someone an idiot.
>
>Richard
>
>"KMTHALER" <kmth...@aol.com> wrote

Richard Wood

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Dec 28, 2001, 6:42:48 PM12/28/01
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But you SHOULD be concerned about their feelings.
That way, it would be easier for you to convince them that what yu say is
correct.

Richard

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KMTHALER

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Dec 28, 2001, 10:05:41 PM12/28/01
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Richard Wood wrote:

>But you SHOULD be concerned about their feelings.
>That way, it would be easier for you to convince them that what yu say is
>correct.

Bwahahahaha...good one. Waste perfectly good blunt honesty used to shock
people into their senses because i am worried about their "feelings"...ooh yeah
that's gonna happen.

kent Thaler

Richard Wood

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Dec 29, 2001, 10:04:56 AM12/29/01
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You must have a whole bucket of friends, fake at that...

Richard

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KMTHALER

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Dec 29, 2001, 2:45:18 PM12/29/01
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Richard Wood wrote:

>You must have a whole bucket of friends, fake at that...

- My friends are tough enough to handle honesty...that reminds of an old
Chinese proverb...Friends flatter...true friends tell the truth...maybe you
should look in a mirror?

kent thaler

Mark Edwards

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Dec 29, 2001, 3:05:50 PM12/29/01
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KMTHALER wrote:

> Richard Wood wrote:
>
> >You must have a whole bucket of friends, fake at that...
>
> - My friends are tough enough to handle honesty...that reminds of an old
> Chinese proverb...Friends flatter...true friends tell the truth...maybe you
> should look in a mirror?

Again Kent, ignore this moron. Despite his PH D in nuclear brain surgery
rocket science he's obviously a buffoon. (You know once you get started on
this insulting stuff it's hard to stop! ;-))

Mark


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