"RAT" signs
Megatron
I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
QuiGon
If that makes you feel good, douche-boy.....
I choose to live in reality.....and I know our Pats cheated and we got
caught.....gotta fess up to our crimes.....that's something called
"maturity".....which is something sorely lacking in here for the past few years.
Cheers,
QuiGon
hexHead®
>
>I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>
>
just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
you when you hold it up.
typical - you pricks show no remorse whatsoever, instead you're just
pissed that you got caught.
all things considered, yea it's only a game, but the worst part is
you classless assclowns are probably raising hordes of little bastard
kids with the same values.
"Lesson #1 junior, don't get caught"
LMFAO
cloud dreamer
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>
>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>
>>
>
> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
> you when you hold it up.
Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
..
--
We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
"hexHeadŽ" <hex...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Wooosh------------------------- to the killfile with you, punk!
hexHead®
<Global_...@is.real> wrote:
>hexHeadŽ wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>> you when you hold it up.
>
>Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
>
> ..
oh, my bad.
they were fined for bad hair.
dumbass
Dr. Winston O'Boogie
"cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
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C'mon now, don't ask this jerk to actually find the truth. Reality is the
one thing that he can't accept.
hexHead®
LMAO
gotta love it when somebody feels the need to exercise their "power"
by KF'ing, then having to post an announcement about it.
can't blame you I guess - after all it is easier than proving me
wrong. now take your ball and run home.
don't like my posts? don't read em.
Glenn Greenstein
"cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>
>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>> you when you hold it up.
>
> Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
What was the 250, 000 fine for? Creative camera work?
cloud dreamer
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:51:25 -0330, cloud dreamer
> <Global_...@is.real> wrote:
>
>> hexHeadŽ wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>>> you when you hold it up.
>> Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
>>
>> ..
>
> oh, my bad.
> they were fined for bad hair.
> dumbass
No. They were fined for having a camera in the wrong location. What they
were doing with it was completely legal. And they weren't the only team
doing it. Simple.
<plonk>
cloud dreamer
> "cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
> news:13lqfah...@news.supernews.com...
>> hexHeadŽ wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>>> you when you hold it up.
>> Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
>
> What was the 250, 000 fine for? Creative camera work?
It was in the wrong location. Stick it a few feet away and it would have
been okay. What they were doing with the camera was completely legal.
The league got upset cause BB, in their opinion, ignored a memo sent out
in 2006 (you know...two years AFTER their last SB win). BB interpreted
the memo to say it was okay to use the camera as long as the footage
wasn't used in the game being played. The memo allowed for the
interpretation but the league ruled against him and fined him heavily
for ignoring the memo.
Nowhere did the league fine him for "cheating."
"No competitive advantage" - Goodell
QuiGon
> you classless assclowns are probably raising hordes of little bastard
> kids with the same values.
>
> "Lesson #1 junior, don't get caught"
The fact that Pats fans are bearing children makes me shudder with
disgust......just look at how many filthy bastards Tom Brady is bringing into
this world with his callous approach to morality.....
<sigh>
QuiGon
LOL......I bet this tardo has a poster of Barry Bonds above his
bed....."greatest ever" he repeats to himself at night.....
- Qui
nip...@yahoo.com
34-13
QuiGon
> doing with it was completely legal. And they weren't the only team doing it.
> Simple.
Riiiiighhhtttt........and Barry Bonds never used steroids.....just some harmless
IcyHot that made his head swell like a balloon.....
<sigh>.....look at all the ostriches here tonight.....
QuiGon
> thing that he can't accept.
Reality left the Patriots Planet since Game 1......it's been denial and
delusions since then.
- Qui
QuiGon
Dr. Shitston O'Booger gets totally owned in here and cries the familiar "to the
killfile with you"......LOL!
Pats fans are always looking for the easy way out in life......
- Qui
QuiGon
34*-13
Welcome to "Fixboro".....
roc...@maine.rr.com
wrote:
> What was the 250, 000 fine for? Creative camera work?
>
Why do you keep doing this Glenn, He's answering a troll. You know
that.
It's beginning to sound like you're still upset that Belichick spurned
your pathetic team and is now coaching the Pats.
You know he wasn't cheating. He broke a rule. And was fined heavily
for it. To keep things in perspective, his fine is like us paying a
$250.00 fine for speeding.
Get real Glenn and stop this show of jelousy
MZ
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He cheated.
shariq...@yahoo.com
> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
Will the Jets fire Mangenius and hire Josh McDaniels?
Beiselbub
wrote:
> "cloud dreamer" <Global_Warm...@is.real> wrote in message
>
> news:13lqfah...@news.supernews.com...
>
> > hexHead(R) wrote:
> >> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>
> >>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>
> >> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
> >> you when you hold it up.
>
> > Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
[...]
> What was the 250, 000 fine for? Creative camera work?
>
You've proven repeatedly that you aren't very bright, why stop now?
The camera location was illegal, not the filming of the sideline.
Grow a brain, Greenberg.
Professor
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> On Dec 10, 5:48 am, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>
> Will the Jets fire Mangenius and hire Josh McDaniels?
>
>
Cobb
"Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote in message
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>
> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>
>
>
I want to see a thousand videocams at the 50 yard line.
Cobb
"cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
The first: Belichick and the Patriots did not explain the misunderstanding
to the media and the fans. It seems odd they would do such a stupid thing.
Obviously, you can videocam the same thing sitting in the first row of the
stands. He has never explained this properly. His mistake.
The second: Goodell made a big mistake overblowing the fines way out of
proportion to the crime. The result is the media way overhyped the
violation. That was Goodell's inexperience showing.
PatsSox
"Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote in message
Why? There's something to be said for winning with dignity and
class. Mangini has paid the price for being a weasel..... acting like
immature fools and rubbing it in just puts Pats fans in the same category as
all the other whiners.
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
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>
> He cheated.
Again, from your perspective. Not from the NFL's.
Lets make this simple. How do you determined that he cheated? What's your
definition?
Mines simple. You have to deceive to cheat. He did it in the open. Nothing
hidden. His interpretation of the rule was different than the NFL's. He was
wrong and pain a price. He broke a rule.
Just as the Baltimore players did last week and were fined for it.
Cheating = deception....none here
MZ
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> Obviously, you can videocam the same thing sitting in the first row of the
> stands.
Just how obvious is it?
MZ
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>
> "MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
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>>
>> He cheated.
> Again, from your perspective. Not from the NFL's.
How do you know? Do they share your definition?
> Lets make this simple. How do you determined that he cheated? What's your
> definition?
> Mines simple. You have to deceive to cheat. He did it in the open. Nothing
> hidden. His interpretation of the rule was different than the NFL's. He
> was wrong and pain a price. He broke a rule.
> Just as the Baltimore players did last week and were fined for it.
> Cheating = deception....none here
You're playing semantics.
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
> "Rick Rockett" <roc...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
>> news:tKednRr07e3hxcDa...@giganews.com...
>>>
>>> He cheated.
>> Again, from your perspective. Not from the NFL's.
>
> How do you know? Do they share your definition?
>
they share my definition. They may, because the've never said he cheated.
Again MZ, I'm asking YOU what YOUR definition is, not the NFL'S.
Other examples of cheating by other NFL teams not because they weren't done
in todays media frenzy so they were never blown up were:
Denver- cooking the salary cap books so they could sign
Elway..Deception=cheating
49'ers - Scripting plays in advance then faking headset problems so the
other team had to lose theirs and couldn't react. Deception=cheating
Giants- Opening freight doors causing winds for opposing teams FG kickers.
Deceptio=cheating
Dolphins- JJ sending asst. to opposing teams press boxes to retrieve game
plans in trash. Deception=cheating
>> Lets make this simple. How do you determined that he cheated? What's your
>> definition?
>> Mines simple. You have to deceive to cheat. He did it in the open.
>> Nothing hidden. His interpretation of the rule was different than the
>> NFL's. He was wrong and pain a price. He broke a rule.
>> Just as the Baltimore players did last week and were fined for it.
>> Cheating = deception....none here
>
> You're playing semantics.
What semantics am I playing? You're the one stuck on the cheating. No one's
said that but you and the Mediots and bitter fans of other teams.
I know you're a Pats fan and I don't expect you to drink any Kool-aid.
MZ
>
> "MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
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>> "Rick Rockett" <roc...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:475d5cb1$0$9633$4c36...@roadrunner.com...
>>>
>>> "MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
>>> news:tKednRr07e3hxcDa...@giganews.com...
>>>>
>>>> He cheated.
>>> Again, from your perspective. Not from the NFL's.
>>
>> How do you know? Do they share your definition?
>>
> I know, because they've NEVER said he cheated. How the hell do I know if
> they share my definition. They may, because the've never said he cheated.
Did they say that Denver cheated?
> Again MZ, I'm asking YOU what YOUR definition is, not the NFL'S.
> Other examples of cheating by other NFL teams not because they weren't
> done in todays media frenzy so they were never blown up were:
>
> Denver- cooking the salary cap books so they could sign
> Elway..Deception=cheating
> 49'ers - Scripting plays in advance then faking headset problems so the
> other team had to lose theirs and couldn't react. Deception=cheating
> Giants- Opening freight doors causing winds for opposing teams FG kickers.
> Deceptio=cheating
> Dolphins- JJ sending asst. to opposing teams press boxes to retrieve game
> plans in trash. Deception=cheating
Didn't the Giants cheat in the open?
>>> Lets make this simple. How do you determined that he cheated? What's
>>> your definition?
>>> Mines simple. You have to deceive to cheat. He did it in the open.
>>> Nothing hidden. His interpretation of the rule was different than the
>>> NFL's. He was wrong and pain a price. He broke a rule.
>>> Just as the Baltimore players did last week and were fined for it.
>>> Cheating = deception....none here
>>
>> You're playing semantics.
>
> What semantics am I playing? You're the one stuck on the cheating. No
> one's said that but you and the Mediots and bitter fans of other teams.
> I know you're a Pats fan and I don't expect you to drink any Kool-aid.
The Pats cheated. Overblown? You bet. But that's a different argument
altogether.
Baelzebob (aka Lamneth)
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>
>
> you when you hold it up.
>
> pissed that you got caught.
> you classless assclowns are probably raising hordes of little bastard
> kids with the same values.
>
> "Lesson #1 junior, don't get caught"
Did the Patriots really damage you that bad mentally? I mean c'mon
dude it's a friggin game fer chrissake! With your mentality every team
would be cheating frauds not deserving of anything. Say it with me..
"The Patriots are the greatest NFL franchise of all time" trust me you
will feel better when you get over the denial. Free yourself!
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@nospam.void> wrote in message
> "Rick Rockett" <roc...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
> The Pats cheated.
Oh, because you say so, yup I'm convinced now.
The fact that I've asked you twice what your definition is and you
can't/won't speaks volumes.
Oh I forgot. You're definition would be: taping defensive signals in plain
view is what cheating is. I got it now.
MZ
Apparently it's the same as yours, because you said the Giants cheated when
they did something overtly too.
Glenn Greenstein
"cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
> Glenn Greenstein wrote:
>> "cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
>> news:13lqfah...@news.supernews.com...
>>> hexHeadŽ wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>>>> you when you hold it up.
>>> Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
>>
>> What was the 250, 000 fine for? Creative camera work?
>
> It was in the wrong location. Stick it a few feet away and it would have
> been okay. What they were doing with the camera was completely legal.
I see. I guess this is why you think what you do because that is totally
inaccurate.
You can't have a camera anywhere in a booth or the feild of play.
If the guy want's to buy a ticket, then I guess it's OK, but being in the
stands and on the sideline where you can't move to get a better shot are
more than a few feet.
>
> The league got upset cause BB, in their opinion, ignored a memo sent out
> in 2006 (you know...two years AFTER their last SB win). BB interpreted the
> memo to say it was okay to use the camera as long as the footage wasn't
> used in the game being played. The memo allowed for the interpretation but
> the league ruled against him and fined him heavily for ignoring the memo.
>
> Nowhere did the league fine him for "cheating."
>
> "No competitive advantage" - Goodell
It is still cheating. When a player holds, he is cheating, when a player
goes offsides, he is cheating, two players go in motion without resetting
before the snap it is cheating, it just isn't cheating with electronics that
are meant to give a team at some point that competitive advantage Goodell
can't see.
If there was no competitive advantage to any of this, why would the Pats be
doing it?
Are they trying to make a video collage of opposing DC's?
Glenn Greenstein
Not true.
If you are spotted in the stands, a player can hold a towel in your line of
sight and unless you buy the whole sideline of seats, you can't move to a
better angle.
>
> The second: Goodell made a big mistake overblowing the fines way out of
> proportion to the crime. The result is the media way overhyped the
> violation. That was Goodell's inexperience showing.
No, that was Goodell sending a "Don't F*%K with me" message.
IMO, the fines were BS. BB should have been suspended.
>
>
MZ
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>> A couple of mstakes were made:
>>
>> The first: Belichick and the Patriots did not explain the
>> misunderstanding to the media and the fans. It seems odd they would do
>> such a stupid thing. Obviously, you can videocam the same thing sitting
>> in the first row of the stands. He has never explained this properly. His
>> mistake.
>
> Not true.
> If you are spotted in the stands, a player can hold a towel in your line
> of sight and unless you buy the whole sideline of seats, you can't move to
> a better angle.
Yeah, but they don't. I'd have a hard time believing that the team would
get away with getting a video camera into the stadium anyway, even their
home stadium. Otherwise, teams would do it.
I'm still not sold on the idea that it's legal to do it from the stands
anyway.
>> The second: Goodell made a big mistake overblowing the fines way out of
>> proportion to the crime. The result is the media way overhyped the
>> violation. That was Goodell's inexperience showing.
>
> No, that was Goodell sending a "Don't F*%K with me" message.
> IMO, the fines were BS. BB should have been suspended.
I would have preferred a suspension over the loss of draft pick.
Glenn Greenstein
"Beiselbub" <yank_e...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You can't film an opposing coach anywhere on a sideline.
Where is it legal to put a camera on the field?
Rick Rockett
> "Rick Rockett" <rock...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > "MZ" <m...@nospam.void> wrote in message
> >news:48udnc-a5rJM-8Da...@giganews.com...
> >> "Rick Rockett" <rock...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> >> The Pats cheated.
>
> > Oh, because you say so, yup I'm convinced now.
> > The fact that I've asked you twice what your definition is and you
> > can't/won't speaks volumes.
> > Oh I forgot. You're definition would be: taping defensive signals in plain
> > view is what cheating is. I got it now.
>
> Apparently it's the same as yours, because you said the Giants cheated when
Not at all MZ, he did that covertly, those doors were not visible to
the other teams. He didn't tell the other teams that he was opening
the doors up. Picture the players coming down that tunnel. Can you see
the doors that open to the outside? If you picture the stands, it's
probably a good 100 feet or more. Taking it one step further, not
knowing how the stadium is constructed, the kicker or someone looking
right down the tunnel may not even see the doors. They could be highr
then field level if the field is dug below street level. The wind
tunnel effect would still be there.
Hey, you can claim your high moral ground, I respect that. I just
believe your wrong. That and no NFL official ever saying he cheated.
MZ
This has nothing to do with morality. It has to do with violating rules to
gain an advantage outside the field of play. Whether or not the NFL used
the word "cheat" (have they ever?) is irrelevant. The action is. And it
makes no sense why you and cloud dreamer would try to justify the act or to
say it's akin to a false start, or whatever you guys were saying when
bringing up game rules.
Belichick cheated. Merriman cheated. Rodney cheated. I don't really care,
because at the end of the day none of those things made that big of a
difference to the outcome of games. But it's silly to say "no you've got it
all wrong -- he didn't cheat, he broke the rules." That's a game of
semantics and it doesn't get you anywhere.
who'sthat
Many felt that way. I think Goodell's punishment was just about right.
who'sthat
Most fans would.
who'sthat
What you're going to hear is that the rules don't specifically say you
can't record from the stands.
Rick Rockett
> This has nothing to do with morality.
> It has to do with violating rules to
> gain an advantage outside the field of play.
It absolutely does go to morality. Not only are you calling Belichick
I liar you're calling Goodell a liar as well.
> Whether or not the NFL used
> the word "cheat" (have they ever?) is irrelevant.
Ofcourse it's relevent. Just not in your world.
cloud dreamer
A team is assigned several filming locations from which they can film
anything within sight. They are required to wear the bib and the
location must be enclosed (ie roof overhead of some sort).
That's the whole point...they could film the signals from those
locations no problem. The only thing the Pats are guilty of is doing it
from the sidelines (which BB did because the rule did say it could not
be done if the film was used in the game being played. Since it wasn't,
BB went ahead - an understandable interpretation).
The only ones using the word "cheat" are the mediots. No one in the
league uttered the word.
"No competitive advantage" - Ralphy
Glenn Greenstein
Rick, are you saying that BB told the other teams he was filming them?
That this guy on the Pats didn't look like 20 other guys carrying around
cameras?
Oh, and since I have been to Giants stadium a number of times, the door in
question is visible from the stands, and yes, they do open and close it. So
far I can't recall a teams kicker overtly effected by it.
Glenn Greenstein
"cloud dreamer" <Global_...@is.real> wrote in message
This just reeks of homerisim.
First off, I am sure that both teams have there "assinged filming locations"
and that both teams know where they are.
So how stupid would it be to put your OC or DC in plain sight of these
cameras.
Look, I don't particularly think Mangini is a good HC, especially after the
play calling I witnessed in the final three minutes of the Cleveland game,
but he isn't a dumb ass and you would have to be a dumb ass to enable what
you are inferring.
who'sthat
Why would they get penalized if they didn't cheat?
MZ
> On Dec 10, 1:22 pm, "MZ" <m...@void.nospam> wrote:
>
>> This has nothing to do with morality.
>> It has to do with violating rules to
>> gain an advantage outside the field of play.
>
> It absolutely does go to morality. Not only are you calling Belichick
> I liar you're calling Goodell a liar as well.
How's that? What lies have I said they've told?
>> Whether or not the NFL used
>> the word "cheat" (have they ever?) is irrelevant.
>
> Ofcourse it's relevent. Just not in your world.
It's irrelevant because, as I said, they didn't use the word "cheat" in
other instances that you've called cheating.
Rick Rockett
> Rick, are you saying that BB told the other teams he was filming them?
> That this guy on the Pats didn't look like 20 other guys carrying around
> cameras?
Of course he didn't. He didn't take steps to hide it. Didn't put it a Little
Debby box and sling it from his hip. Thought he was within the rules. I
don't believe you can unknowingly cheat. You can however unknowingly break a
rule.
> Oh, and since I have been to Giants stadium a number of times, the door in
> question is visible from the stands, and yes, they do open and close it.
> So far I can't recall a teams kicker overtly effected by it.
I'll defer to your explanation. Parcells obviously thought it did. He
admitted to it in his little exchange with Choir Boy Young. But what does
Parcells know?
Megatron
"QuiGon" <Qui...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game <
>
> caught.....gotta fess up to our crimes.....that's something called
> "maturity".....which is something sorely lacking in here for the past few
> years.
>
> Cheers,
> QuiGon
Maturity? Are you shitting me? MATURITY?
This coming from someone who is named after a Star Wars character! LOL!
~
"I choose to live in reality" -QuiGon
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
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> "Rick Rockett" <roc...@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:54234469-a1bb-4862...@b15g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 10, 1:22 pm, "MZ" <m...@void.nospam> wrote:
>>
>>> This has nothing to do with morality.
>>> It has to do with violating rules to
>>> gain an advantage outside the field of play.
>>
>> It absolutely does go to morality. Not only are you calling Belichick
>> I liar you're calling Goodell a liar as well.
>
> How's that? What lies have I said they've told?
I'm just using your poetic license. Roger Goodell said that no competitive
advantage was gained. That's part of YOUR criteria for cheating, you said so
right above here. Take a look. So Goodell must be lying when he said that
because you've determined that he must have gained one, just like Belichick
was lying when he told Goodell and the press that his interpertation of the
rule allowed him to film. I'm following that
>
>>> Whether or not the NFL used
>>> the word "cheat" (have they ever?) is irrelevant.
>>
>> Ofcourse it's relevent. Just not in your world.
>
> It's irrelevant because, as I said, they didn't use the word "cheat" in
> other instances that you've called cheating.
Again, cheating in it's purest requires deception. All of those instances
used deception. Belichick didn't. Check your dictionary. Might surprise you
hexHead®
"....greatest NFL franchise of all time...."
Tooo funny
Come back when you got 6 rings - then we'll talk.
MZ
>
> "MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
>
> advantage was gained.
No he didn't. He said no competitive advantage was gained in-game. Of
course there was a competitive advantage. Why else would Belichick do it?
And you forgot one. Where did I say Belichick lied?
> That's part of YOUR criteria for cheating, you said so right above here.
> Take a look. So Goodell must be lying when he said that because you've
> determined that he must have gained one, just like Belichick was lying
> when he told Goodell and the press that his interpertation of the rule
> allowed him to film. I'm following that
Either that, or you're misinterpreting what Goodell said.
>>>> Whether or not the NFL used
>>>> the word "cheat" (have they ever?) is irrelevant.
>>>
>>> Ofcourse it's relevent. Just not in your world.
>>
>> It's irrelevant because, as I said, they didn't use the word "cheat" in
>> other instances that you've called cheating.
>
> Again, cheating in it's purest requires deception.
Says you.
> All of those instances used deception. Belichick didn't. Check your
> dictionary. Might surprise you
That's not what this portion of the post was about. I've left it unsnipped
to remind you that you're hanging your hat on the fact that the NFL never
used the word "cheating". So when HAVE they used that word? Did they use
it to describe the instances that you listed earlier as "cheating"? -- THAT
is why it's irrelevant.
Rick Rockett
"who'sthat" <whosthat@UKnowI'mmRight.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> ..
> Why would they get penalized if they didn't cheat?
So MORON, anytime someone gets penalized, they're cheating? Tell me you're
not that stupid to open up that door. What am I saying of course you are!!!
Rick Rockett
so am I. You won, I'm wrong and you're right. It must suck to be one of your
kids. If they stay out 5 minutes beyond their curfew, they probably be
responsible for bringing down the free world!!
Rick Rockett
"Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote in message
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even their own group hates. He's been nym shifting to avoid kill files.
Quiggy is a long time Pats fan who's TJM's latest victim
MZ
It's interesting that you're comparing yourself to a child. I guess we do
see eye to eye on some things.
Glenn Greenstein
Rick Rockett
> Is this door anything like that door at Giants Stadium :)
Just like that one Glenn!!
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
MZ
Thanks. Took me a minute to decide whether or not to hit send on that one.
It was a good one, if I do say so myself. :)
Rick Rockett
"MZ" <ma...@void.nospam> wrote in message
> one. It was a good one, if I do say so myself. :)
tell them not to go offside or they'll be CHEATING and to not score that
winning goal because you don't want to send the other kids home crying!!
Hugs for everyone!!!
FP1
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> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:51:25 -0330, cloud dreamer
> <Global_...@is.real> wrote:
>
>>hexHeadŽ wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:48:06 -0500, "Megatron" <Megatron@home> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'll bring my sign that reads "RAT" to the Jet's game.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> just make sure you write "SCUMBAG CHEATERS" on the side that's facing
>>> you when you hold it up.
>>
>>Please cite a link to Goodell fining the Pats for "cheating."
>>
>> ..
>
> oh, my bad.
> they were fined for bad hair.
> dumbass
No link. You lost the argument, b-bye
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Paddy McGroin
> goes offsides, he is cheating, two players go in motion without resetting
> before the snap it is cheating, it just isn't cheating with electronics
> that are meant to give a team at some point that competitive advantage
> Goodell can't see.
> If there was no competitive advantage to any of this, why would the Pats
> be doing it?
> Are they trying to make a video collage of opposing DC's?
>>
The electronics thing is a red herring.
Are you saying players that intentionally hold or jump offsides do it
without anticipating a potential competitive advantage?
Glenn Greenstein
what you are being sarcastic about here is closer to the truth than you
know.
who'sthat
<glen.j...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>"Paddy McGroin" <m...@groin.com> wrote in message
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>Of course that is why they do it, and if they don't get a flag and it was
>intentional, they are getting away with cheating.
>If you are doing something you know you shouldn't be doing, that is
>cheating.
>Anyone who thinks BB was not bright enough to understand the memo that was
>passed around and still thinks he did this under the guise of not
>understanding is really out of touch.
Which perfectly describes our FANATICS in here...out of touch. That's
the difference between a fan and a FANATIC.
Manfred Noland
Rick Rockett
> Rick, being a dad who has coached is kids in every PAL sport in our town,
> what you are being sarcastic about here is closer to the truth than you
> know.
Glenn, I know it first hand as well. I was coaching our towns Little League
All Star team one year. We had a Coaches/Parents meeting before the
tournament. We wanted to outline the rules of play i.e. minimum playing time
and what they thought our teams philosophy should be. In other words, did
they want us to play to win or play everyone equally even if it didn't give
the team the best chance to win. Bad mistake. To a parent they wanted equal
playing time and could care less about winning. What these parents don't
understand is that the kids want to win. They actually know who the best
players are. They have no idea what a kid feels like if he makes a mistake
costing a game. Even though most kids don't take it out on them, they're
still kids.
People can say all they want about losing being a learning thing. Kids don't
buy that.
Sports is about winning with class and dignity, and accepting losses and
learning from them.
That year, we won our 1st game and then lost our next two. We played to the
parents wishes. While we were rotating players in and out, we heard
grumbling from both the kids and the parents. A couple of boys actually came
up to us and said that they shouldn't be in and that others should play.
Learned our lesson that year, it's easier to keep the kid's happy than the
parents.
Tony Giacometti
perfect example of liberalism being a mental disorder!
Glenn Greenstein
I had a team of 6th to 8th graders and they were dogging it every game.
The parents said if my kid stinks, put them in right field and bat them
last.
The kids all wanted to play no matter what, wanted to hit every inning, all
wanted to be on first or pitch.
It drove me nuts actually when after we lost, the kids would walk around
with there heads down.
I would say "What is bothering you?" and they would say "we lost"
I would just walk away shaking my head and biting my tongue trying not to
lose it on this kid who just jogged to first base on a hit that was a sure
double and maybe a triple if the throw to the infield was off.
My absolute fav was when they would hit an infield pop fly, and walk to
first, then the ball hits the ground and they start running only to get
thrown out at first.
Glenn Greenstein
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> My sign will read.. " Magina "
>
Gotta love pat fans.
Try learning to spell your insults the right way.
who'sthat
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stan, you're sooooo hot. When are we getting together for our threesome?
Professor
TXRhody
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>
I think he is making his own insult based on the word "vagina" rather than
borrowing the word from Deuce Bigalo "mangina".
Cobb
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>
Bring your videocam!!
I want to see thousands of videocams on my TV screen.
who'sthat
HAHAHAH That would get a few chuckles.
Glenn Greenstein
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That would be pretty funny.
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