Stupidest mistake in NFL history
cel...@earthlink.net
What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
name some other blunders.
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jamison
Didn't the Philly Eagles fumble on the last play of a game against NYG
when all they had to do was take a knee? Didn't the NYGs return it for a
TD and win the game? My memory is foggy. I think the QB was Joe
Pisarchak. I think the Philly coach was fired that week. Can anyone help
me out on this?
cel...@earthlink.net wrote in article <8779660...@dejanews.com>...
Michael Fox
You've got it backwards. The Giants lost that game when Pisarchak and the
running back screwed up the handoff. I don't remember who the running back
was. Anyone?
I'm not sure, but I don't think league had the same 'take a knee' rule that
it does now. I think back then, the defense was still allowed to hit the
QB if he knelt down. Regardless, that play is truly one of the low points
for NY sports.
C ya,
MFOX
jamison <data...@trib.infi.net> wrote in article
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Bill Zinger
cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
This would be Jim Marshall.
Friday@DragNet
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>
> name some other blunders.
How about the Patriots letting Parcells go?
--
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Robert W Drago
Oh c'mon, how can anyone even think twice about this. It was
the RUBLEY play! Cheers, Bob
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Kyle Levenhagen wrote:
> cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> >
> > name some other blunders.
>
> Switzer's call in Philly last year (or was it two years ago).
>
> Kyle
>
>
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Kyle Levenhagen
Sharm
Michael Fox wrote:
>
> You've got it backwards. The Giants lost that game when Pisarchak and the
> running back screwed up the handoff. I don't remember who the running back
> was. Anyone?
No, he got it right. A Viking player ran the wrong way after recovering
a fumble against the niners and gave them a safety.
Sharm
Marc Attivo
Sharm wrote:
He was talking about the Eagles-Giants game, not the Vikings game.
Marc
Jonathan Adams
I believe the running back was Larry Csonka.
Michael Fox wrote:
> You've got it backwards. The Giants lost that game when Pisarchak and the
> running back screwed up the handoff. I don't remember who the running back
> was. Anyone?
>
LC
Granting Atlanta and New Orleans football franchises (TB used to be in
this group)
Sam Monk
Friday@DragNet wrote:
>
> In article <8779660...@dejanews.com>, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> >
> > name some other blunders.
>
>
Byners fumble on the two against the broncos in the AFC championship
game.
Garo (sp?) Yuprimian (sp again?) thinking that he's a QB.
Glanville (idiot) trading Brett Favre for basically no one.
Dan Pastorini [period].
[hey, this is kinda fun!]
The Raven's uniforms.
Free agancy.
OH ! Al Davis !
[really warming up now]
The Rams moving from LA (broke my heart)
Women franchise owners (this ougta stir things up)
instant reply.
repealing instant replay
repealing the repeal -- I mean, make up your mind !
Not firing Switzer when they had the chance - (after the airport thing).
Brian Bosworth - what a BUST.
QBs who can't make it past the 1st qtr without a concussion
ex. chandler, humpries, miller
[leaving the bounds of control now]
that silly helmet pad that is supposed to prevent concussions,
but keeps on falling off, which requires your teammates to
constantly bend over and pick up part of your head & put it
back on.
Artificial turf
domes
helmet-cam
the whole june jones-jeff george thing.
Keith Olbermann leaving espn.
those silly FOX sound effects. All that damn whooooshing
and smashing is a distraction. But I guess it's better
than listening to Pat Sumrall. Which brings us to . . .
Pat Sumrall.
"Running unabated at the quarterback". Huh ?! Who the f*ck
thought that up?
Joe Theisman's commentary. You just KNOW Howie wants to pop him.
You can throw Terry Bradshaw in there, too. What a ham.
. . . . . . [suddenly regaining control]
Hmmm. I seem to have digressed. I DO miss Olbermann, though.
--
____________________________________________
Edward Derson Hou
On 27 Oct 1997, Dennis wrote:
> In <8779660...@dejanews.com> cel...@earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> >
> > name some other blunders.
>
> The stupidest mistake in NFL history was the Herschel Walker trade
> between Minnesota and Dallas. Of course, that mistake wasn't on the
> field, but it's still the biggest mistake in NFL history!
>
>
I agree. Dallas laughed all the way to 3 Super Bowls...
-Eddie
Mark C. Wade, OD
Had to be the Herschel Walker trade to Minnesota from Dallas!!!
--
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EyeMAC Development
website: http://www.eyemac.com
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Dick Burger
>Had to be the Herschel Walker trade to Minnesota from Dallas!!!
I agree, this is definitely numero uno. All other mistakes are
competing for a distant second place.
If we could combine Wannstadt's decision to trade a first rounder for
Mirer with his 2-point boner, I think we might very well be looking at
a total stupidity of legendary proportions.
DB
Tara N. Larkin
Keith Brewster wrote:
>
> cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> : What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> : guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> : TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> :
> : name some other blunders.
> :
> :
> : BIG burly man
>
> Look no further than one of the burliest, the Cowboys' Leon Lett.
> In Super Bowl 27 he was running back a fumble for an apparent
> touchdown when he started celebrating early only to have Don Beebe
> (then of the Bills) knock the ball out of his hand. It had no
> impact on the outcome of the game however.
>
> It was a different story when Leon touched a blocked kick at
> Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving, 1993. That allowed Jeff Dellenbach
> (then of the Dolphins) to recover, and Stoyanovich made the
> "second chance" field goal on the icy surface to win the game.
> Not sure if that game result impacted their season, however.
>
Leon Lett was who I was thinking of all the way through the previous
posts...he ought to get some kinda honorable mention for TWO big
bonehead plays on national TV.
I think the original post was referring to Jim Marshall.
Tara
Neal M
Billy Joe Hobert last week. Right up there with "I didn't inhale."
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>
> name some other blunders.
>
>
>
> BIG burly man
>
Keith Brewster
cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
: What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
: guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
: TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
:
: name some other blunders.
:
:
:
: BIG burly man
Look no further than one of the burliest, the Cowboys' Leon Lett.
In Super Bowl 27 he was running back a fumble for an apparent
touchdown when he started celebrating early only to have Don Beebe
(then of the Bills) knock the ball out of his hand. It had no
impact on the outcome of the game however.
It was a different story when Leon touched a blocked kick at
Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving, 1993. That allowed Jeff Dellenbach
(then of the Dolphins) to recover, and Stoyanovich made the
"second chance" field goal on the icy surface to win the game.
Not sure if that game result impacted their season, however.
As for mistakes that leave fans still slapping their heads
saying "if only...hadn't happened my favorite team could've
gone on to the Super Bowl", Byner's goalline fumble ("The Fumble")
in the 1988 AFC Championship in Denver, or Brian Sipe's errant
pass that was intercepted in the endzone by Oakland in a
1981 AFC Playoff game in Cleveland. But those aren't necessarily
"stupid" plays, just risks gone bad. Maybe the new Browns
will have better karma.
As for other bonehead moves:
Stupid trade: Vikes Walker deal
Stupid TV hire: Fox hiring Glanville
Stupid Broadcasting Decision: Heidi Bowl
Extra Stupid Broadcasting Effect: "Squeaky Robot" on Fox
Stupid Attitude by Team: Denver thinking they could beat the Jags
by just showing up
Stupid Franchise Move: The whole Tennesee Oiler deal
Stupid Stadium Decision: Inflatable Dome in Downtown Minneapolis
Stupid Coach-hiring Logic: All Shulas are equal
Stupid FA Hire: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown
Stupid FA Hire-II: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Desmond Howard
Stupid Off-field Activity by Team: Super Bowl Shuffle
Stupid Off-field Team Real Estate Venture: Cowboys' "White House"
Stupid Travel Packing, Player: Bam Morris
Stupid Travel Packing, Coach: Barry Switzer
Stupid Book: Keyshawn Johnson
Go Pack!
-Keith
PS: Speaking of Glanville, Favre has a great line in his book
when speaking about the importance football tradition in Green Bay
compared to Atlanta, "No one in Atlanta attends Jerry Glanville Junior
High."
Ethan Leon
Dennis Green's new book....
shango
you're thinking of Jim Marshall.
cel...@earthlink.net wrote in article <8779660...@dejanews.com>...
, was it Alan Page?
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
Sequel.S...@NOSPAM.msn.fullfeed.com (Dick Burger) wrote:
>DB
Funny how it all seems to be concentrated in Minnesota and Chicago,
isn't it?
--
Ralph Hickok
Author "The Pro Football Fan's Companion"
Macmillan, 1995 (Paper--Green & Gold Cover)
Hickok's Sports History: http://www.ultranet.com/~rhickok/
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
"jamison" <data...@trib.infi.net> wrote:
>Didn't the Philly Eagles fumble on the last play of a game against NYG
>when all they had to do was take a knee? Didn't the NYGs return it for a
>TD and win the game? My memory is foggy. I think the QB was Joe
>Pisarchak. I think the Philly coach was fired that week. Can anyone help
>me out on this?
It was the other way around. Holding a 17-12 lead over the Eagles in
1978, the Giants simply had to run out the clock. A handoff from
Pisarcik to Larry Csonka never connected and DB Herman Edwards
returned the fumble 26 yards for a TD. Offensive coordinator Bob
Gibson was fired for calling the play. Head coach John McVay and GM
Andy Robustelli were fired after the season ended. Might have
happened even if they'd won that game. They were 6-10 after going 5-9
in 1977.
Fillard Millmore
>On 27 Oct 1997, Dennis wrote:
>
>> In <8779660...@dejanews.com> cel...@earthlink.net writes:
>> >
>> > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
>> > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
>> > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>> >
>> > name some other blunders.
>>
>> The stupidest mistake in NFL history was the Herschel Walker trade
>> between Minnesota and Dallas. Of course, that mistake wasn't on the
>> field, but it's still the biggest mistake in NFL history!
>>
>>
>
>I agree. Dallas laughed all the way to 3 Super Bowls...
>
>-Eddie
>
And now they have Herschel again. And he's contributing. Am I the
only person around who thinks money went under someone's table to make
that deal happen?
FM
Tom Ewall
1) Ex coach for Cincinnati, Sam something, now a commentator who went for
4th down against niners with lead and time running out. (San Francisco
scored touchdown on next play)
2) Barry Switzer going for 4th down against Eagles twice at end of game
with score tied
3) Referee who didn't call pass interference against Preson Pearson on
Staubach hail Mary against Vikings.
Peter Wolfe
I think he was kidding.
Michael Fox wrote:
>
> You've got it backwards. The Giants lost that game when Pisarchak and the
> running back screwed up the handoff. I don't remember who the running back
> was. Anyone?
>
> I'm not sure, but I don't think league had the same 'take a knee' rule that
> it does now. I think back then, the defense was still allowed to hit the
> QB if he knelt down. Regardless, that play is truly one of the low points
> for NY sports.
>
> C ya,
> MFOX
>
> jamison <data...@trib.infi.net> wrote in article
> <01bce2f0$d2cfe680$20ca...@Trib.Tributaries>...
Kyle Levenhagen
> : guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> : TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
It was Jim Marshall who ran 70 yards the wrong way against San Francisco
on Oct. 25, 1964. In the end, it didn't matter--the Vikes still won.
> Look no further than one of the burliest, the Cowboys' Leon Lett.
> In Super Bowl 27 he was running back a fumble for an apparent
> touchdown when he started celebrating early only to have Don Beebe
> (then of the Bills) knock the ball out of his hand. It had no
> impact on the outcome of the game however.
>
> It was a different story when Leon touched a blocked kick at
> Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving, 1993. That allowed Jeff Dellenbach
> (then of the Dolphins) to recover, and Stoyanovich made the
> "second chance" field goal on the icy surface to win the game.
> Not sure if that game result impacted their season, however.
>
> As for mistakes that leave fans still slapping their heads
> saying "if only...hadn't happened my favorite team could've
> gone on to the Super Bowl", Byner's goalline fumble ("The Fumble")
> in the 1988 AFC Championship in Denver, or Brian Sipe's errant
> pass that was intercepted in the endzone by Oakland in a
> 1981 AFC Playoff game in Cleveland. But those aren't necessarily
> "stupid" plays, just risks gone bad. Maybe the new Browns
> will have better karma.
>
> As for other bonehead moves:
> Stupid trade: Vikes Walker deal
Addition?: Wait another year or two on the Mirer deal to Chicago
> Stupid TV hire: Fox hiring Glanville
Correction: ANYBODY (HBO, too) hiring Glanville
> Stupid Broadcasting Decision: Heidi Bowl
Addition?: Not making this year's Packers-Cowboys game nationally
televised. I may actually get the "priviledge" of watching Tampa
Bay-Chicago that day on FOX.
> Extra Stupid Broadcasting Effect: "Squeaky Robot" on Fox
Addition: John Madden's "BOOM!" Hey Johnny, it gets old after a while.
> Stupid Attitude by Team: Denver thinking they could beat the Jags
> by just showing up
Correction?: Indianapolis thinking they can beat ANYBODY. PERIOD.
> Stupid Franchise Move: The whole Tennesee Oiler deal
Addition: The Browns' messy move to Baltimore. How many other cities
in NFL history have been guaranteed replacement franchises???
> Stupid Stadium Decision: Inflatable Dome in Downtown Minneapolis
Correction?: How about moving into the Metrodome and then playing there
for only 15 years?
> Stupid Coach-hiring Logic: All Shulas are equal
Correction: Rich Kotite is a *good* coach.
> Stupid FA Hire: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown
> Stupid FA Hire-II: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Desmond Howard
No Disagreement Here
> Stupid Off-field Activity by Team: Super Bowl Shuffle
Ditto
> Stupid Off-field Team Real Estate Venture: Cowboys' "White House"
> Stupid Travel Packing, Player: Bam Morris
> Stupid Travel Packing, Coach: Barry Switzer
> Stupid Book: Keyshawn Johnson
Correction: Dennis Green
> Go Pack!
>
Kyle
Peter Wolfe
Tom Ewall wrote:
>
> 1) Ex coach for Cincinnati, Sam something, now a commentator who went for
> 4th down against niners with lead and time running out. (San Francisco
> scored touchdown on next play)
The coach was Dave Shula. Sam Wyche was Tampa Bay's coahc until a
couple of years ago.
> 2) Barry Switzer going for 4th down against Eagles twice at end of game
> with score tied
hehehehehe
JPNess
How about when the Vikings traded their team to the Cowboys for Herschel
Walker?
Myrddraal
>Granting Atlanta and New Orleans football franchises (TB used to be in
>this group)
I'd say it is never too late to include TB back into the group, after the
Chokeaneers have blown three straight games.
Peter Wolfe
Myrddraal wrote:
>
> -the Broncos hiring Reeves to run Elway's career into the ground
>
Even though I now live in GA and get to see first hand what Dan Reeves
can do to a team, I have to say that since he left Denver, the Broncos
have not won a playoff game.
But who cares.......
GO JETS!! :)
Andrew
Peter Wolfe wrote:
>
> Tom Ewall wrote:
> >
> > 1) Ex coach for Cincinnati, Sam something, now a commentator who went for
> > 4th down against niners with lead and time running out. (San Francisco
> > scored touchdown on next play)
>
> The coach was Dave Shula. Sam Wyche was Tampa Bay's coahc until a
> couple of years ago.
Sam Wyche coached the Bengals' for a number of years.
Michael Fox
Considering some of the statements made in these news groups, I'm not so
sure. Even if he was, I don't get the joke.
MFOX
Peter Wolfe <AMY....@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> wrote in article
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Kelley Peagler
In article <8779660...@dejanews.com>, cel...@earthlink.net writes:
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>
>
>
Minnesota trading all those draft picks to Dallas for Herschel Walker.
Without question.
>
> BIG burly man
>
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On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> name some other blunders.
1. Every team in the NFL passing on Joe Montana not once, but twice in the 1979 NFL draft.
2. Pittsburgh Steelers cutting Johnny Unitas in the mid 1950s.
3. In game? Some of the big ones have already been brought up--Marshall's wrong-way
rumble, the Miracle at the Meadowlands, Wyche's call on fourth down. How about Abner
Haynes winning the coin toss and electing to kick off at the start of overtime in the 1962
AFL Championship game, giving the Oilers both the ball and the wind?
Pat Curley
carl lawrence gutowski
How about the players' strike?
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>
> name some other blunders.
>
>
>
Kay Wallen
Pat Curley (patc...@nnoossppaammidt.net) wrote:
: > name some other blunders.
How about 3? years ago - the rams don't cover the opening kickoff and the
kicking team recovers for a TD?
--
nAkEd dAvE
Aaron Hirshberg
Jeff Ebbesen wrote:
>
snips galore
The running back was Csonka. He was back in the NFL and finishing up
his trip to the Hall of Fame by playing with the Giants.
Aaron Hirshberg
Kenny
Guys,
I might be wrong on this, but I believe the running back who
created "THE FUMBLE" for the Giants was none other than
Larry Czonka. As I recall, Herman Edwards ran the ball the
other way for the Eagles.
Kenny
W.E.B.
how about green bay passing on drafting barry sanders & taking tony
mandarich???
M. Zaiem Beg
In alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers Pat Curley <patc...@nnoossppaammidt.net> wrote:
: On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
: > name some other blunders.
: 1. Every team in the NFL passing on Joe Montana not once, but twice in the 1979 NFL draft.
Draft mistakes shouldn't count, otherwise stick in every team in the NFL passing on Terrell
Davis not once, not twice, thrice, four times (damn trends) but _five times_ in the 1995 NFL
draft.
--
-M. Zaiem Beg
zb...@holly.colostate.edu
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
Kyle Levenhagen <leve...@SPAMFREE.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
>> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
>> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>>
>> name some other blunders.
>I've got dibs on this one (although it probably isn't the stupidest of
>all time):
>New England going for it on fourth and goal from the one against the
>Pack tonight. Didn't the previous three plays teach them anything??? A
>field goal would have put them within one, and saved some time on the
>clock. The extra points may have given them a little more incentive to
>actually play the rest of the second half.
>Kyle
I think throwing on 2nd and 3rd down was stupider than going for it on
4th.
Farblue1
>How about when the Vikings traded their team to the Cowboys for Herschel
> Walker?
Bad move. And Dallas ended up getting him back anyway! How about the Giants
releasing Tarkenton back to the Vikes? Bad move on their part but we
certainly benefitted. Oh, the good old days.
Tammy
Bleeding purple for over 22 years
Pat Curley
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history?
How about the time Howard Cosell got smashed on Monday Night Football, and ABC didn't can
his sorry ass? It was a game between the Eagles and the Giants (?) in the early '70s when
both teams were wretched and Cosell had apparently had a few bracers beforehand. I noticed
that he was a little quiet that night and then it was his turn to do the fade to
commercial. "Frum Franglin Fild, Phildephia, this is Munnay Night Fudball." As I
recall, they went to the taped highlights at halftime and when they came back live, Howard
had "been taken to the hospital" for a "severe cold" according to Gifford. And Dandy Don
was laughing.....
Pat Curley
Footejf
In article <635s5f$9au$2...@decius.ultra.net>, rhi...@ma.ultranet.com writes:
>Kyle Levenhagen <leve...@SPAMFREE.uiuc.edu> wrote:
>
>>I've got dibs on this one (although it probably isn't the stupidest of
>>all time):
>
>>New England going for it on fourth and goal from the one against the
>>Pack tonight. Didn't the previous three plays teach them anything??? A
>>field goal would have put them within one, and saved some time on the
>>clock. The extra points may have given them a little more incentive to
>>actually play the rest of the second half.
>
>>Kyle
>
>I think throwing on 2nd and 3rd down was stupider than going for it on
>4th.
>--
>Ralph Hickok
Some people call it 'aggressive'. I found it pretty desperate and
self-doubting. That was a pitiful series for the Pats. Put a nail in
their own coffin, they did.
- Foote
Ross Mandell
cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> name some other blunders.
How about the Vikings trading away their whole future to the Cowboys
for Hershal Walker. The Cowboys built their superbowl teams out of
those draft picks and even have Walker back. The Vikings still have
not recovered.
Ross Mandell
us...@host.net (Friday@DragNet) wrote:
>> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
>> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
>> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>>
>> name some other blunders.
>How about the Patriots letting Parcells go?
Kraft fully realizes that parcells is a great coach. How he left is
more complex than just stupidity. It was a struggle for control over
the team. The Jets gave Parcells that authority.
Steven P. McNicoll
Pat Curley wrote in message <3456064...@news.idt.net>...
>
>2. Pittsburgh Steelers cutting Johnny Unitas in the mid 1950s.
>
Yeah, that was poor in retrospect, but remember they didn't cut him because
they didn't think he could play quarterback, they cut him because he
couldn't play anything else. Unitas was competing for the third QB position
with another rookie, Vic Eaton. Eaton was the punter and punt returner in
1955, and was also a reserve defensive back. The roster limit in 1955 was
only 35, Unitas wasn't versatile enough.
>3. In game? Some of the big ones have already been brought up--Marshall's
wrong-way
>rumble, the Miracle at the Meadowlands, Wyche's call on fourth down. How
about Abner
>Haynes winning the coin toss and electing to kick off at the start of
overtime in the 1962
>AFL Championship game, giving the Oilers both the ball and the wind?
>
Electing to kick is always stupid.
Irentem
2 of the biggest in my mind:
1)The SF 49'ers trading Charles Haley.
2)The SF 49'ers trading Charles Haley to Dallas.
Mark
P.S.:To the fan in Pittsburg complaining about cross-posting. We will
stop this thread when you guys stop putting lame pictures of your
coach's family on TV during the games.
Tom Cepalia
Doyle - I believe it was against San Fran. in one of those opening day
fiascos.
Doyle Carney wrote:
> What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
> ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
>
> Who were they playing??
Robert Cowan
In article <ukiTBSJ58GA.297@upnetnews03>,
Doyle Carney <dnc_c...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
>ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
>
>Who were they playing??
>
>
Robert
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www.cif.rochester.edu/users/rc005d * -one of the great philosophers
University of Rochester * of our time =)
gn...@bigdog.fred.net
In article <ukiTBSJ58GA.297@upnetnews03>,
Doyle Carney <dnc_c...@email.msn.com> wrote:
>What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
>ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
>
>Who were they playing??
>
Forty-Niners at the place then known as Candlestick Park
>
--
Gregory Nagy I'm not even supposed to be here today
-Dante(Clerks)
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Aaron Hirshberg
Irentem wrote:
> "C" cup.
>
> Mark
I am pretty sure that Ralph Hickok would have a long list of stories
about teams that drafted Mr. Soon-to-be-Obscure instead of Mr.
Future-Hall-of-Famer. My favorite stories along this line concern the
New York Giants. They once drafted a guy named Rocky Johnson (who ?)
when someone named Bert Jones was available.
Personally, I don't think Mandarich was a bad draft pick. Mandarich
must have let it all go to his head, so he goofed off between draft day
and the opening of training camp instead of continuing to work out. The
constant criticism he received because he wasn't proving his worth must
have affected his ability to improve in his 2nd and 3rd seasons.
Aaron Hirshberg
Thomas N. Hennessy
Duane Montgomery <dmon...@zoomnetdot.net> wrote in article
<3456D4...@zoomnetdot.net>...
> Pat Curley wrote:
Did the bengals pass on Jerry Rice for David Verne (another WR)? If not
> then who was it? If memory serves me they passed on Rice. But I couldn't
> imagine him having half the career in Cincy as he did in SF.
The Bengals passed on Rice (as did a lot of other teams) to draft Eddie
Brown (who had a pretty good career, albeit not in the same ballpark as
Jerry Rice.)
Kay Wallen
decr...@cacd.rockwell.com wrote:
: All,
: The stupidist mistake did not take place on the playing field. It took
: place in the executive suite. It was the trade that the Vikes made to
: get Herschel Walker. That trade gave Dallas the draft choices needed to
: get Aikman and others while the Vikes could never figure out how to use
: Walker. It is ironic that Walker is now back in Dallas while Minnesota
: has nothing to show for the trade.
Actually they earned the draft choice for Aikman. But I believe they got
Emmitt by trading one of the minnesota picks combined with a dallas pick
to move up a few slots.
--
nAkEd dAvE
Rick
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, Doyle Carney wrote:
> What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
> ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
>
> Who were they playing??
>
>
>
>
I think it was San Fran and I believe that they really pounded us in that
game.
Lap Dog
In article <ukiTBSJ58GA.297@upnetnews03>, dnc_c...@email.msn.com (Doyle
Carney ) wrote...
>
>What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
>ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
What about Chuck Muncie? He made the same mistake against the Raiders.
mattam
Joe Thiesman (sp?) threw a pretty ill-advised SB pass once.
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incurred as a result of my posts.
Lap Dog <Uno...@nospam.com> wrote in article
<632ria$4...@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
: In article <8779660...@dejanews.com>, cel...@earthlink.net
: (cel...@earthlink.net) wrote...
: >
: > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
: > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
: > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
: >
: > name some other blunders.
:
: How about those two passes Neil O'Donnell threw to the wide open Larry
Brown
: in the Stuper Bowl?
:
:
Mike Kujawa
OOPS I should read Alonzo Spellman not Chris Speilman. Although they
would have made that mistake to if given the chance
~K7
~~J25
~~~K97
Roper
Let's see...Parcells being let go...nono...the Raiders paying mega bucks
for Larry Clown, uh, I mean, Brown...Tony Mandarich being #1 pick...Vikes
for Herschel Walker..Carolina letting Kevin Greene go (although that's
pretty recent)....letting Jerry Jones buy an NFL team!!!
cel...@earthlink.net wrote in article <8779660...@dejanews.com>...
> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>
> name some other blunders.
>
>
>
Mike Kujawa
Its a 7 way tie
1-Chicago hireing Dave Wanstat
2-Chicago signing Chris Spielman (long term)
3-Chicago singing (nutcase) Brian Cox
4-Chicago tradeing a number 1 for Rick Meier
5-Chicago Not tradeing a running back for a quality player
6-Chicago Allmost trading Eric Kramer untill he nixed the trade
7-Chicago going for two
Is it me or are some of the biggest dummies in charge of the Bears.
KJK
Whitefish Bay, WI.
Michael Thomas
Doyle Carney wrote:
>
> What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
> ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
>
They were playing the '49ers in Pittsburgh.
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
kille...@prom.com (Brain Death) wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:42:44 -0600, "Steven P. McNicoll"
><ronca...@writeme.com> wrote:
>>Yeah, that was poor in retrospect, but remember they didn't cut him because
>>they didn't think he could play quarterback, they cut him because he
>>couldn't play anything else. Unitas was competing for the third QB position
>>with another rookie, Vic Eaton. Eaton was the punter and punt returner in
>>1955, and was also a reserve defensive back. The roster limit in 1955 was
>>only 35, Unitas wasn't versatile enough.
>Thanks for the info, it's a point I hadn't heard before, but makes a
>great deal of sense. I still think it was a mistake, but as you
>demonstrate, an understandable mistake, and therefore probably not
>qualified as the "stupidest" mistake.
>Pat
The Steelers also thought Unitas was too stupid to be able to call
plays.
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
Duane Montgomery <dmon...@zoomnetdot.net> wrote:
>Pat Curley wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> > name some other blunders.
>>
>> 1. Every team in the NFL passing on Joe Montana not once, but twice in the 1979 NFL draft.
>>
>> 2. Pittsburgh Steelers cutting Johnny Unitas in the mid 1950s.
>>
>> 3. In game? Some of the big ones have already been brought up--Marshall's wrong-way
>> rumble, the Miracle at the Meadowlands, Wyche's call on fourth down. How about Abner
>> Haynes winning the coin toss and electing to kick off at the start of overtime in the 1962
>> AFL Championship game, giving the Oilers both the ball and the wind?
>>
>> Pat Curley
> Did the bengals pass on Jerry Rice for David Verne (another WR)? If not
>then who was it? If memory serves me they passed on Rice. But I couldn't
>imagine him having half the career in Cincy as he did in SF.
Don't remember that, but you might well be right.
BTW, the Niners gave the Patriots two first-round choices to get the
pick they used on Rice. The Pats selected Trevor Matich and some
other guy who's long gone. (And it wasn't L.G. Dupre.)
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
farb...@aol.com (Farblue1) wrote:
>>What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
>> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
>> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>>
>Nah, Judge Page didn't do it. Jim Marshall, #70, was the culprit. Years ago,
> back in the late 70's, early 80's, they had the play recorded at the Hall of
> Fame, where you could pick up a phone and listen to the commentators
> commenting on the play. Yeah, it was a stupid play, but would you have been
> the one to tell Marshall that? :-)
>Sammy White, while still a young player with the Vikes, caught a pass from
> Tarkenton and ran for the end zone. He celebrated (which was not done on Bud
> Grant's team), dropping the ball before he hit the end zone. The opposing
> team (Chicago?) recovered the ball for a touchback. Thankfully, he made up
> for it later in the game and avoided Bud Grant's glares for another seven
> days.
A Pittsburgh receiver--I think it was David Smith--did that on
national TV, perhaps on MNF, though I'm not sure about that, either.
He was about to score a TD and spiked the ball a couple of yards short
of the end zone. It then went into the end zone and out of bounds, so
it went over to the other team on a touchback.
>I'm sure all teams have some stories about players' faux pas.
>Tammy
>Bleeding purple for over 22 years
--
Ethan Leon
Tom Cepalia <tom...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<3457976A...@ix.netcom.com>...
> Doyle - I believe it was against San Fran. in one of those opening day
> fiascos.
>
> > What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
> > ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
> >
> > Who were they playing??
Barry Foster, the pounding running back, returning kicks? Or is this some
other Barry Foster?
David Brower
Not that I'd argue against:
- The wrongway safety;
- The Giants/Eagles Fumble;
- The Herschel trade;
- The Haley trade;
- Switzer (almost makes up for the previous two);
- Starting Earl over Unitas in SB-III (compare to '72. Don learned!)
- The Immaculate Reception;
- The "touchdown" in last years SF-GB MNF game;
- "interference" against the Niners in the NFCCG against the Redskins;
But I will add to the list Wicky-wacky's failure to run out the clock,
giving the 49ers exactly one play, which oh-so-surprisingly became a
Montana-to-Rice last second win. It had Bill positively skipping off
the field.
-dB
--
"It's hard to find a black cat in a dark room. | David Brower
Especially if the cat's not there. | dbr...@oracle.com
But we will!" | da...@acm.org
Farblue1
>It was Jim Marshall who ran the wrong way. He got the last laugh my
>setting an NFL record for most consecutive games played. Sort of the
>Cal Ripken of the NFL. He was from Ohio State, and should be in the Hall of
Fame.
>Aaron Hirshberg
>
So should some other Vikes be in the Hall of Fame. I wonder if Eller's and
Marshall's drug problems in the past have, to some degree, prevented their
nominations? Also, Minnesota's lack of a Superbowl win could be a
factor...... Just MHO
Steven P. McNicoll
decr...@cacd.rockwell.com wrote in message
<345743...@cacd.rockwell.com>...
>All,
>
>The stupidist mistake did not take place on the playing field. It took
>place in the executive suite. It was the trade that the Vikes made to
>get Herschel Walker. That trade gave Dallas the draft choices needed to
>get Aikman and others while the Vikes could never figure out how to use
>Walker. It is ironic that Walker is now back in Dallas while Minnesota
>has nothing to show for the trade.
>
>Dennis
The Cowboys didn't get the #1 draft choice in 1989 (Aikman) through the
trade with Minnesota, they got it by posting a 3-13-0 record in 1988.
Pitt-Fla.
Bill,
Maybe if he rephrased to say, Jack Tatum leveling Frenchy Fuqua was a
big mistake.
Jerry
Bill Cable <cabl...@clearlight.com> wrote in article
<638qej$gnt$1...@malgudi.oar.net>...
> David Brower (dbr...@us.oracle.com) wrote:
> > Not that I'd argue against:
>
> > - The Immaculate Reception;
>
> I'm not flaming you here, don't get me wrong, but...
> The Immaculate Reception was NOT a "stupid play." It was perhaps the
> greatest play in the history of football (and is rated as such by many
> different sources). Yes, it was flukey. But watching it just sends
> chills up & down your spine (unless you're a Raiders fan). If you ever
> have the chance to see it, absolutely do so. You can never see it enough
> (again, unless you're a Raiders fan).
> --
> Bill Cable
> http://www.recordpub.com/~cableguy *** E-mail: cabl...@recordpub.com
> "I believe Cable is becoming an evil presence in our home."
> - Marge Simpson
> ***Here we go STEELERS, Here we go!*** Let's Go Bucs!***Go Pens!***
>
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
gn...@bigdog.fred.net wrote:
>In article <638qej$gnt$1...@malgudi.oar.net>,
>Bill Cable <cabl...@clearlight.com> wrote:
>As blunders in big Steelers games go, who was it that dropped the sure
>touchdown for the Cryboys in SB X? (I think the name here was apropriate,
>as there was a picture in the SB XIII program with the receiver kicking
>his feet in the air after the play.)
TE Jackie Smith, who's now in the Hall of Fame.
Robert A Jensen
Jody Eisenman wrote:
>
> The Pats letting Parcells go for a few draft picks.
Jimmy Johnson called the draft picks for Parcells 'The steal of the
century"
Bob Jensen
Jody Eisenman
Mike Fester
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com wrote:
: farb...@aol.com (Farblue1) wrote:
:
: >>It was Jim Marshall who ran the wrong way. He got the last laugh my
: >>setting an NFL record for most consecutive games played. Sort of the
: > Fame.
: >So should some other Vikes be in the Hall of Fame. I wonder if Eller's and
: > Marshall's drug problems in the past have, to some degree, prevented their
: > nominations? Also, Minnesota's lack of a Superbowl win could be a
: > factor...... Just MHO
: yes, I do think drug problems create a problem for the electors. Like
: Shoeless Joe Jackson's "little" bribery thing keeps him out of the
: baseball hall.
This does a VAST disservice to Eller; whatever Eller's problems, he is NOT
accused of conspiring to LOSE for his team. I know you didn't mean it that
way, but such a comparison should not have been made.
: But Paul Krause certainly ought to be there. Nearly 20 years after
: Ron Yary should be there--I believe he's on the ballot this year. He
Yep, and yep.
Mike
Chan Benson
> > > What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
> > > ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
> > >
> > > Who were they playing??
>
> Barry Foster, the pounding running back, returning kicks? Or is this some
> other Barry Foster?
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barry Foster, but I can't recall offhand who it
was.
-- Chan
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
farb...@aol.com (Farblue1) wrote:
>>It was Jim Marshall who ran the wrong way. He got the last laugh my
>>setting an NFL record for most consecutive games played. Sort of the
>>Cal Ripken of the NFL. He was from Ohio State, and should be in the Hall of
> Fame.
>>Aaron Hirshberg
>>
>So should some other Vikes be in the Hall of Fame. I wonder if Eller's and
> Marshall's drug problems in the past have, to some degree, prevented their
> nominations? Also, Minnesota's lack of a Superbowl win could be a
> factor...... Just MHO
I don't think Marshall is legitimate HOF material, but Eller is and,
yes, I do think drug problems create a problem for the electors. Like
Shoeless Joe Jackson's "little" bribery thing keeps him out of the
baseball hall.
But Paul Krause certainly ought to be there. Nearly 20 years after
his retirement, he's still the NFL's all-time interception leader and
he was not only a great ball hawk but also a very good hitter.
Certainly one of the best safeties I ever saw.
Ron Yary should be there--I believe he's on the ballot this year. He
was better than Dierdorf, I think And I think Mick Tingelhoff was at
last as good as Langer and probably better.
.
>Tammy
>Bleeding purple for over 22 years
--
Craig S Dohmen
David Brower wrote in message ...
[Re: Immaculate Reception]
>It hit the ground. Yes, I was a Raider fan at the time. Notice how
>no Steeler ever addresses that issue. They clam up and smile.
Er. I've seen that tape about 40 times. Zoomed out, zoomed in, from
several angles.
It did not hit the ground.
--Craig
Kyle Levenhagen
Kay Wallen wrote:
>
> decr...@cacd.rockwell.com wrote:
> : All,
>
> : The stupidist mistake did not take place on the playing field. It took
> : place in the executive suite. It was the trade that the Vikes made to
> : get Herschel Walker. That trade gave Dallas the draft choices needed to
> : get Aikman and others while the Vikes could never figure out how to use
> : Walker. It is ironic that Walker is now back in Dallas while Minnesota
> : has nothing to show for the trade.
>
> Emmitt by trading one of the minnesota picks combined with a dallas pick
> to move up a few slots.
Not calling you a liar, but wasn't Emmitt drafted in 1990? If he was,
then the 'Boys would have had the #1 overall pick anyway with their 1-15
record in '89.
Kyle
John DelSignore
Ethan Leon wrote:
> Barry Foster, the pounding running back, returning kicks? Or is this some
> other Barry Foster?
This is the same Barry Foster. This was the year before his 1600 yard
year with the Steelers. He was a young back just looking for playing
time.
John DelSignore
> As blunders in big Steelers games go, who was it that dropped the sure
> touchdown for the Cryboys in SB X?
I'm pretty sure his name is Jackie Smith who dropped the sure touchdown.
Pitt-Fla.
Gregory said,
gn...@bigdog.fred.net wrote in article <63am17$1...@bigdog.fred.net>...
> In article <638qej$gnt$1...@malgudi.oar.net>,
> Bill Cable <cabl...@clearlight.com> wrote:
> >David Brower (dbr...@us.oracle.com) wrote:
> >> Not that I'd argue against:
> >
> >> - The Immaculate Reception;
> >
> >I'm not flaming you here, don't get me wrong, but...
> >The Immaculate Reception was NOT a "stupid play." It was perhaps the
> >greatest play in the history of football (and is rated as such by many
> >different sources). Yes, it was flukey. But watching it just sends
> >chills up & down your spine (unless you're a Raiders fan). If you ever
> >have the chance to see it, absolutely do so. You can never see it
enough
> >(again, unless you're a Raiders fan).
>
> or if you look at it from the view of the fact that Jack Tatum was all
that
> stood between Harris and the endzone. As I understand it from people who
> were at the game, Tatum had a clear shot at Franco and never touched him.
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Tatum better football player than
that?
> Therefore, not taking away anything from Franco's great catch and run,
but
> is a "great blunder" on the part of Jack Tatum. It's not the reception,
> but the miss on the run that is the "blunder"
>
> As blunders in big Steelers games go, who was it that dropped the sure
> touchdown for the Cryboys in SB X? (I think the name here was apropriate,
> as there was a picture in the SB XIII program with the receiver kicking
> his feet in the air after the play.)
>
> > --
> > Bill Cable
> >http://www.recordpub.com/~cableguy *** E-mail: cabl...@recordpub.com
> > "I believe Cable is becoming an evil presence in our home."
> > - Marge Simpson
> > ***Here we go STEELERS, Here we go!*** Let's Go Bucs!***Go Pens!***
>
>
> --
> Gregory Nagy I'm not even supposed to be here today
> -Dante(Clerks)
> gnag...@SPAMfred.net s/MAPS\@SPAM/\@/g
>
Being that I witnessed the play,if Tatum lets Fuqua catch the ball the game
would of been over anyway.After the hit Tatum stood over Fuqua and admired
his work, Franco was long gone.The Stupid part was if not for Tatum there
is no Immaculate Reception!
jerry
ps. the ball never touched the ground!
Bill E Madden Jr.
Chan Benson (ch...@fc.hp.com) wrote:
: > > > What about Barry Foster - in to return the kickoff and he simply let the
: > > > ball go without touching it and the opposing team recovered for a TD?
: > > >
: > > > Who were they playing??
: > Barry Foster, the pounding running back, returning kicks? Or is this some
: > other Barry Foster?
: I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barry Foster, but I can't recall offhand who it
: was.
Barry was one of the up men on the play in his second season, not the
primary returner. The 49er kicker pooched the kickoff, and Foster just
looked at it. The 49ers recovered inside the 15 and drove in for the
insurance touchdown two plays later.
Bill
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Mike Fahy
ch...@fc.hp.com (Chan Benson) wrote:
>I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barry Foster, but I can't recall offhand who it
>was.
It was Barry Foster in his rookie year and he just let the thing go
over his head like a punt. The other team fell on it, didn't score on
that play.
--
Mike Fahy
mike...@twd.net
Lord Blackrose
In article <63b1i5$a...@nnrp4.farm.idt.net>, jo...@mail.idt.net wrote:
>The Pats letting Parcells go for a few draft picks.
The Steelers not picking up Unitas before he took off to Baltimore.
God, one of the best QB's ever.
Lord Blackrose
e-mail: pla...@azstarnet.com
http://www.azstarnet.com/~playboy/castle.html
I do not like death, but there are things I like less than death. Therefore, there are times when I will not avoid danger.
Death Before Dishonor.
bugaboo
Pat Curley <patc...@nnoossppaammidt.net> wrote in article
<3456064...@news.idt.net>...
> On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> > name some other blunders.
>
> 1. Every team in the NFL passing on Joe Montana not once, but twice in
the 1979 NFL draft.
>
> 2. Pittsburgh Steelers cutting Johnny Unitas in the mid 1950s.
>
> 3. In game? Some of the big ones have already been brought
up--Marshall's wrong-way
> rumble, the Miracle at the Meadowlands, Wyche's call on fourth down. How
about Abner
> Haynes winning the coin toss and electing to kick off at the start of
overtime in the 1962
> AFL Championship game, giving the Oilers both the ball and the wind?
>
> Pat Curley
>
Uhh don't tell me that Johnny U was a Steeler! I would like to know the
reason for this blunder.
Chad Scott
Mike Fester wrote:
> This does a VAST disservice to Eller; whatever Eller's problems, he is NOT
> accused of conspiring to LOSE for his team. I know you didn't mean it that
> way, but such a comparison should not have been made.
He did a rather poor job of it, hitting around .400, or so...
--
Chad Scott
Pat Curley
On Thu, 30 Oct 1997 02:59:14 GMT, rhi...@ma.ultranet.com wrote:
>The Steelers also thought Unitas was too stupid to be able to call
>plays.
Reminds me of the guy who said that the perfect quarterback would have
Bart Starr's brain and Terry Bradshaw's arm. Well, Bart Starr's arm
and Terry Bradshaw's brain were good enough to combine for nine NFL
titles!
Pat
Bill
Not sure what year, but didn't the New Giants have a Bone Head play had the
game one and all they had to do was take a Knee and the quarterback ran a
play and fumble the other team pick it up and ran it in for a score Giants
lost on that play the coach i believe got fired.....Like i said can't
remember the year or the team they were playing.....Maybe someone can tell
me?
--
santa
Keith Brewster wrote in message <633ee7$a...@mercury.galstar.com>...
>cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>: What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
>: guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
>: TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
>:
>: name some other blunders.
>:
>:
>:
>: BIG burly man
>
>Look no further than one of the burliest, the Cowboys' Leon Lett.
>In Super Bowl 27 he was running back a fumble for an apparent
>touchdown when he started celebrating early only to have Don Beebe
>(then of the Bills) knock the ball out of his hand. It had no
>impact on the outcome of the game however.
>
>It was a different story when Leon touched a blocked kick at
>Texas Stadium on Thanksgiving, 1993. That allowed Jeff Dellenbach
>(then of the Dolphins) to recover, and Stoyanovich made the
>"second chance" field goal on the icy surface to win the game.
>Not sure if that game result impacted their season, however.
>
>As for mistakes that leave fans still slapping their heads
>saying "if only...hadn't happened my favorite team could've
>gone on to the Super Bowl", Byner's goalline fumble ("The Fumble")
>in the 1988 AFC Championship in Denver, or Brian Sipe's errant
>pass that was intercepted in the endzone by Oakland in a
>1981 AFC Playoff game in Cleveland. But those aren't necessarily
>"stupid" plays, just risks gone bad. Maybe the new Browns
>will have better karma.
>
>As for other bonehead moves:
>Stupid trade: Vikes Walker deal
>Stupid TV hire: Fox hiring Glanville
>Stupid Broadcasting Decision: Heidi Bowl
>Extra Stupid Broadcasting Effect: "Squeaky Robot" on Fox
>Stupid Attitude by Team: Denver thinking they could beat the Jags
> by just showing up
>Stupid Franchise Move: The whole Tennesee Oiler deal
>Stupid Stadium Decision: Inflatable Dome in Downtown Minneapolis
>Stupid Coach-hiring Logic: All Shulas are equal
>Stupid FA Hire: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown
>Stupid FA Hire-II: Al Davis hires Super Bowl MVP Desmond Howard
>Stupid Off-field Activity by Team: Super Bowl Shuffle
>Stupid Off-field Team Real Estate Venture: Cowboys' "White House"
>Stupid Travel Packing, Player: Bam Morris
>Stupid Travel Packing, Coach: Barry Switzer
>Stupid Book: Keyshawn Johnson
>
>Go Pack!
>
>-Keith
>
>PS: Speaking of Glanville, Favre has a great line in his book
>when speaking about the importance football tradition in Green Bay
>compared to Atlanta, "No one in Atlanta attends Jerry Glanville Junior
>High."
bugaboo
mattam <mdan...@monmouth.com> wrote in article
<01bce4b5$e7ee5120$40b907d0@mdaniele>...
> Joe Thiesman (sp?) threw a pretty ill-advised SB pass once.
> --
>
>
> I assume no liability for any physical, mental or emotional problems
> incurred as a result of my posts.
>
> Lap Dog <Uno...@nospam.com> wrote in article
> <632ria$4...@mtinsc02.worldnet.att.net>...
> : In article <8779660...@dejanews.com>, cel...@earthlink.net
> : (cel...@earthlink.net) wrote...
> : >
> : > What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
> : > guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
> : > TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
> : >
> : > name some other blunders.
> :
> : How about those two passes Neil O'Donnell threw to the wide open Larry
> Brown
> : in the Stuper Bowl?
> :
> :
>
Oakland Paying the big bucks to Larry Brown
Steelers passing on the possible drug-using Pitt U grad...Dan Marino
Thomas Dusel
The Giants were playing the Eagles, they were leading with barely any time
left on the clock. Joe Pisarcek decided to hand off to the running back,
instead of dropping to one knee. The Eagles pressured, the hand off was
fumbled, the Eagles recovered and ran it in for the winning touchdown. In
fact, I believe that win qualified the Eagles as the wild card team for the
playoffs. I think the year was 1979.
Bill <sa...@dmv.com> wrote in article <63blcm$mvp$1...@news.dmv.com>...
Steven P. McNicoll
Kyle Levenhagen wrote in message
>
>Not calling you a liar, but wasn't Emmitt drafted in 1990? If he was,
>then the 'Boys would have had the #1 overall pick anyway with their 1-15
>record in '89.
>
Jeff George was the #1 pick in 1990, he went to the Colts.
Joe Stud
Absolutely not...you NY fans have selective memories. It was the
>>>Giants<<< that fumbled (it was Pasarcik, who later became an Eagle),
ball picked up and run in by Herman Edwards, if my memory is correct ("the
Miracle of the Meadowlands")
Mike
jamison <data...@trib.infi.net> wrote in article
<01bce2f0$d2cfe680$20ca...@Trib.Tributaries>...
> Didn't the Philly Eagles fumble on the last play of a game against NYG
> when all they had to do was take a knee? Didn't the NYGs return it for a
> TD and win the game? My memory is foggy. I think the QB was Joe
> Pisarchak. I think the Philly coach was fired that week. Can anyone
help
> me out on this?
>
Chan Benson
> : I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barry Foster, but I can't recall offhand who it
> : was.
>
> Barry was one of the up men on the play in his second season, not the
> primary returner. The 49er kicker pooched the kickoff, and Foster just
> looked at it. The 49ers recovered inside the 15 and drove in for the
> insurance touchdown two plays later.
Hmmm. The one I remember went into the endzone; the opposing team got an
instant 7 points.
-- Chan
curl...@elmer4.bobst.nyu.edu
In article <34590B...@pitt.edu> John DelSignore <jpds...@pitt.edu> writes:
>From: John DelSignore <jpds...@pitt.edu>
>Subject: Re: Barry Foster Kick Return ?
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:35:00 -0800
>Ethan Leon wrote:
>> Barry Foster, the pounding running back, returning kicks? Or is this some
>> other Barry Foster?
>This is the same Barry Foster. This was the year before his 1600 yard
>year with the Steelers. He was a young back just looking for playing
>time.
The muffed-up KO vs the 49ers was in (Sept?) 1991. '92 was his glory
year before an injury in '93 (remember Leroy Thompson as his
fill-in?) and Bam Morris in '94 cut his carries en route to relative
anonymity.
Dean
BLACK AND GOLD
Tom Schultz
Neal M wrote in message <632pqv$dp$1...@gte1.gte.net>...
|Billy Joe Hobert last week. Right up there with "I didn't inhale."
|
|On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
|
|> What was the stupidest mistake in NFL history? was it when the
|> guy for the Minnesota Vikings ran the ball the wrong way for a
|> TD? i forget, was it Alan Page?
|>
It was Jim Marshal, and it was scored as a safety for the other team.
|>
curl...@elmer4.bobst.nyu.edu
In article <345948de...@news.twd.net> mike...@twd.net (Mike Fahy) writes:
>From: mike...@twd.net (Mike Fahy)
>Subject: Re: Barry Foster Kick Return ?
>ch...@fc.hp.com (Chan Benson) wrote:
>>I'm pretty sure it wasn't Barry Foster, but I can't recall offhand who it
>>was.
>It was Barry Foster in his rookie year and he just let the thing go
>over his head like a punt. The other team fell on it, didn't score on
>that play.
>--
>Mike Fahy
I'm pretty sure it bounced inside the 10, Foster let it go behind him (good
policy -- IF IT'S A PUNT, NOT A LIVE BALL !!), and it wound up in the end zone.
I do think the 49ers got an instant score there.
Dean
sb2...@cnsvax.albany.edu
In article <3456064...@news.idt.net>, patc...@nnoossppaammidt.net (Pat Curley) writes:
>On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:52:49 -0600, cel...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
How about recent Jet blunders:
1. Bubby's shuffle pass
2. Our defense getting burned on the fake spike play
3. Hess hiring Kotite because "He wants to win NOW"
cya
bsun
rhi...@ma.ultranet.com
"Thomas Dusel" <Thomas...@arkwright.com> wrote:
>The Giants were playing the Eagles, they were leading with barely any time
>left on the clock. Joe Pisarcek decided to hand off to the running back,
>instead of dropping to one knee. The Eagles pressured, the hand off was
>fumbled, the Eagles recovered and ran it in for the winning touchdown. In
>fact, I believe that win qualified the Eagles as the wild card team for the
>playoffs. I think the year was 1979.
It was 1978, the Eagles did get into the playoffs as a result (lost in
the first round to Atlanta). Pisarcek did not decide to hand off to
the running back, the play was called by the offensive coordinator,
Bob Gibson, who was fired two days later.
Pat Curley
On Sat, 01 Nov 1997 01:59:10 GMT, rhi...@ma.ultranet.com, clearly under the influence of
several strong ales, claimed:
>It was 1978, the Eagles did get into the playoffs as a result (lost in
>the first round to Atlanta). Pisarcek did not decide to hand off to
>the running back, the play was called by the offensive coordinator,
>Bob Gibson, who was fired two days later.
I will never forget that play. The Giants had moved to NJ a couple years earlier. Being
Jersey bred myself, I felt a desire to support the local club, even though my childhood
loyalties had been with the Jets. The Giants did not make it easy, first with the refusal
to change the name (from New York), and then with their lousy performance on the field.
But I stayed a Giant rooter until that moment. It was the ultimate in 1970s vintage New
York Giants football--finding a way to lose a game they had won.
BTW, somebody else on this thread made the mistake of saying that the rules were different
back then and didn't allow the kneel-down. That was not true; many teams used it back
then and earlier, although it was not uncommon for teams to call a running play into the
line, either. This one play changed all that; and you point out the reason why--the last
guy who tried it got fired.
Pat Curley