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Joseph Kitchens

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Mar 18, 2003, 6:20:14 AM3/18/03
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5:16am

I am sitting here going through old computer cds and the TV is on. CBS
news is reporting that if we go to war... The tourney will be
postponed. I do remember that the homeland security counsel said that
if the terror alert is raised to the highest "severe" then major
sporting events would be put on hold. I am guessing when the first
bomb drops... The terror alert will change to the highest....

Dennis

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Mar 18, 2003, 9:26:33 AM3/18/03
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Joseph Kitchens <co...@austin.rr.rr.com> startled small woodland
creatures when they said:

ahhh yeah nothin is better politically than to turn millions of sports
fans against you. if we postpone them until the conflict is over does
that mean the final four will compete against the NBA finals? or that
the NBA finals will get pushed back to compete with the NFL preseason?


"education is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance" --Will Durant
"people who read the tabloids deserve to be lied to " Jerry Seinfeld
"One day we will get it right and the world will be one great big love-fest
and the only wars willbe fought over who has to sleep in the wet-spot" me :-)

Daniel Seriff

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Mar 18, 2003, 10:57:18 AM3/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 8:26:33 -0600, Dennis wrote
(in message <5i8e7v0mu97pkoslg...@4ax.com>):

> Joseph Kitchens <co...@austin.rr.rr.com> startled small woodland
> creatures when they said:
>
>> 5:16am
>>
>> I am sitting here going through old computer cds and the TV is on. CBS
>> news is reporting that if we go to war... The tourney will be
>> postponed. I do remember that the homeland security counsel said that
>> if the terror alert is raised to the highest "severe" then major
>> sporting events would be put on hold. I am guessing when the first
>> bomb drops... The terror alert will change to the highest....
>
> ahhh yeah nothin is better politically than to turn millions of sports
> fans against you. if we postpone them until the conflict is over does
> that mean the final four will compete against the NBA finals? or that
> the NBA finals will get pushed back to compete with the NFL preseason?

Who cares? The NBA is irrelevant.

--
Daniel Seriff

If we're all God's children, what's so special about Jesus?

Ron Blancarte

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Mar 18, 2003, 11:39:33 AM3/18/03
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Joseph Kitchens used 100% recycled electrons to write:

>5:16am
>
>I am sitting here going through old computer cds and the TV is on. CBS
>news is reporting that if we go to war... The tourney will be
>postponed.

Actually not will be, it COULD be.

>I do remember that the homeland security counsel said that
>if the terror alert is raised to the highest "severe" then major
>sporting events would be put on hold. I am guessing when the first
>bomb drops... The terror alert will change to the highest....

This is the dumbest thing that the NCAA president Brand has done since
he fired Bobby Knight at Indiana. I mean, seriously, this is the kind
of diversion that we need in a time of crisis such as the one upon us.
Canceling the event is dumb in 2 ways - 1, it allows terror to dictate
how we live and 2, it takes away a necessary distractions that not
only us as citizens need, but even our soldiers, who need to sometimes
clear their heads of things like fighting, etc.

RonB


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Dennis

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Mar 18, 2003, 12:08:03 PM3/18/03
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Daniel Seriff <my.crow's.to...@can.of.creamed.corn> startled small

woodland creatures when they said:

>On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 8:26:33 -0600, Dennis wrote
>(in message <5i8e7v0mu97pkoslg...@4ax.com>):
>
>> Joseph Kitchens <co...@austin.rr.rr.com> startled small woodland
>> creatures when they said:
>>
>>> 5:16am
>>>
>>> I am sitting here going through old computer cds and the TV is on. CBS
>>> news is reporting that if we go to war... The tourney will be
>>> postponed. I do remember that the homeland security counsel said that
>>> if the terror alert is raised to the highest "severe" then major
>>> sporting events would be put on hold. I am guessing when the first
>>> bomb drops... The terror alert will change to the highest....
>>
>> ahhh yeah nothin is better politically than to turn millions of sports
>> fans against you. if we postpone them until the conflict is over does
>> that mean the final four will compete against the NBA finals? or that
>> the NBA finals will get pushed back to compete with the NFL preseason?
>
>Who cares? The NBA is irrelevant.

well if the war extends the NBA season that long and proves this point
to America, I'll mail the GOP $5 :-)

diosdado

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Mar 18, 2003, 1:29:43 PM3/18/03
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As if, the NBA is relevant and will have 3 great matchups the same day
when the NCAA tourney begins. Let's see...Spurs vs Mavericks, Lakers
vs Kings, 76ers vs Pistons. These games will be hella better than all
the tourney games played that same day.

Regardless, let's all hope that there will be very few casualties in
Iraq.

diosdado

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Dennis

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Mar 18, 2003, 1:29:57 PM3/18/03
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Ron Blancarte <ron@---TAKETHISOUT---.blancarte.com> startled small

woodland creatures when they said:

>Joseph Kitchens used 100% recycled electrons to write:
>
>>5:16am
>>
>>I am sitting here going through old computer cds and the TV is on. CBS
>>news is reporting that if we go to war... The tourney will be
>>postponed.
>
>Actually not will be, it COULD be.
>
>>I do remember that the homeland security counsel said that
>>if the terror alert is raised to the highest "severe" then major
>>sporting events would be put on hold. I am guessing when the first
>>bomb drops... The terror alert will change to the highest....
>
>This is the dumbest thing that the NCAA president Brand has done since
>he fired Bobby Knight at Indiana.

dude knight couldn't beat IU's rival Purdue often enough and Knight
lost his edge there. look ath the coaches with winning records against
knight and it's a short one, but Keady is something like .80 versus
Knight in his career...

kinda like what would happen if those aggees would start whoopin that
UT butt on a regular basis.

Daniel Seriff

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Mar 18, 2003, 5:00:13 PM3/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 12:29:43 -0600, diosdado wrote
(in message <a4455af9.03031...@posting.google.com>):

> As if, the NBA is relevant and will have 3 great matchups the same day
> when the NCAA tourney begins. Let's see...Spurs vs Mavericks, Lakers
> vs Kings, 76ers vs Pistons. These games will be hella better than all
> the tourney games played that same day.

better != more relevant

Ron Blancarte

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Mar 18, 2003, 4:58:43 PM3/18/03
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diosdado used 100% recycled electrons to write:

>As if, the NBA is relevant and will have 3 great matchups the same day
>when the NCAA tourney begins. Let's see...Spurs vs Mavericks, Lakers
>vs Kings, 76ers vs Pistons. These games will be hella better than all
>the tourney games played that same day.

Sorry, but the way I see it,

NBA games < NCAA tourney games

I have to agree, the NBA is irrelevant.

RonB

>Daniel Seriff <my.crow's.to...@can.of.creamed.corn> wrote in message news:<0001HW.BA9C9DFC...@news-server.austin.rr.com>...
>
>> Who cares? The NBA is irrelevant.

Daniel Seriff

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Mar 18, 2003, 6:05:41 PM3/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 15:58:43 -0600, Ron Blancarte wrote
(in message <re5f7voeobkm54msf...@4ax.com>):

> diosdado used 100% recycled electrons to write:
>
>> As if, the NBA is relevant and will have 3 great matchups the same day
>> when the NCAA tourney begins. Let's see...Spurs vs Mavericks, Lakers
>> vs Kings, 76ers vs Pistons. These games will be hella better than all
>> the tourney games played that same day.
>
> Sorry, but the way I see it,
>
> NBA games < NCAA tourney games

YM:

Lakers vs. Kings <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Nicholls State vs. North Carolina A&T

> I have to agree, the NBA is irrelevant.

And there's nothing at stake except how nice a stereo system Kobe can get in
his next Mercedes.

playing for pride >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing for money

Olaf

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Mar 18, 2003, 6:38:56 PM3/18/03
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"Ron Blancarte" <ron@---TAKETHISOUT---.blancarte.com> wrote in message

>
> This is the dumbest thing that the NCAA president Brand has done since
> he fired Bobby Knight at Indiana. I mean, seriously, this is the kind
> of diversion that we need in a time of crisis such as the one upon us.
> Canceling the event is dumb in 2 ways - 1, it allows terror to dictate
> how we live and 2, it takes away a necessary distractions that not
> only us as citizens need, but even our soldiers, who need to sometimes
> clear their heads of things like fighting, etc.

I dont think any games will actually be canceled unless they were to get
some kind of direct evidence of terrorist plans to hit one of the
arenas...which I think is unlikely.

olaf


Michael Mosteller

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Mar 18, 2003, 7:02:20 PM3/18/03
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http://www.msnbc.com/news/886753.asp?0cm=c30

The NCAA will not postpone the men's and women's basketball tournaments if
the United States goes to war with Iraq this week, the organization's
president said Tuesday.
THE GAMES WILL GO AHEAD as scheduled after tournament officials consulted
with Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, NCAA president Myles Brand said.
"Our thoughts and prayers are with the young men and women who are in
the desert and elsewhere defending our freedom," Brand said. "We are also
concerned that life go on as normal. We see no reason, after consulting with
Secretary Ridge, to make any alterations to our plan."
The NCAA men's tournament would be the first big sports event
affected by any conflict in Iraq. The play-in game, between North
Carolina-Asheville and Texas Southern, was scheduled for Tuesday night in
Dayton, Ohio.

Michael


diosdado

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Mar 18, 2003, 10:56:40 PM3/18/03
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I disagree with both you and ron. at this part of the NBA season, it is very
relevant. each team is vying for playoff positioning and homecourt
advantage. comparing the Lakers vs Kings against Nicholls State vs NC A&T is
horrible. honestly, how often do you watch or even attend any low caliber
collegiate game? i know i can attest watching a Southland Conference game,
an NCAA Division II and III game in person. these games are in no comparison
to an NBA game. the gyms of these low tier schools had very few people in
them since the student body and alumni can really careless. it's not like
these schools suck with the exception of UTSA. Trinity made the NCAA
Division III playoffs in both men and women's basketball. Right now the
Trinity women are in the Final Four, while the men were ousted in the first
round. St. Mary's made the NCAA Division II playoffs in both men and women,
but were eliminated in the first round. Many of the sub-regional sites will
not be at capacity which will resemble the atmosphere when the Horns played
Temple in New Orleans a few years ago. There was maybe 100 people in the
stands?

As far as playing for pride versus playing for money, every college
basketball player is playing for money. Each of them are hoping they would
one day get drafted to play in the NBA to get paid for their hard work in
the college level. Well unless you went to UGA or Michigan, where you get
paid to play college ball with gifts or some monetary compensation. NBA
players do play for pride too when on the court since they each have to live
up to the reputation of being the best basketball players in the world.

The only way I can see the NCAA tourney being greater than the NBA is when
you are in Las Vegas making bets on the numerous games being played. You can
make a lot of money or end up being flat broke. Well then again there is the
school band playing the same repeated fight song over and over again.

Anyways, the initial message thread is now moot since the NCAA finally
decided to go ahead with the games. Yes, I will cheer on my beloved Horns,
like many of you, hoping they will make it to the Alamodome.

diosdado

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Daniel Seriff

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Mar 18, 2003, 11:57:05 PM3/18/03
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 21:56:40 -0600, diosdado wrote
(in message <YTRda.45416$eb.13...@twister.austin.rr.com>):

> I disagree with both you and ron.

You're thinking about this way too hard, dude.

Dennis

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Mar 19, 2003, 12:00:36 AM3/19/03
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"diosdado" <dios...@eatturf.com> startled small woodland creatures
when they said:

>I disagree with both you and ron. at this part of the NBA season, it is very
>relevant. each team is vying for playoff positioning and homecourt
>advantage. comparing the Lakers vs Kings against Nicholls State vs NC A&T is
>horrible. honestly, how often do you watch or even attend any low caliber
>collegiate game? i know i can attest watching a Southland Conference game,
>an NCAA Division II and III game in person. these games are in no comparison
>to an NBA game. the gyms of these low tier schools had very few people in
>them since the student body and alumni can really careless. it's not like
>these schools suck with the exception of UTSA. Trinity made the NCAA
>Division III playoffs in both men and women's basketball. Right now the
>Trinity women are in the Final Four, while the men were ousted in the first
>round. St. Mary's made the NCAA Division II playoffs in both men and women,
>but were eliminated in the first round. Many of the sub-regional sites will
>not be at capacity which will resemble the atmosphere when the Horns played
>Temple in New Orleans a few years ago. There was maybe 100 people in the
>stands?
>

Dude go rent blue chips... then remember the arena used is a High
School arena in Indiana the Frankfort High school arena... it can fit
the whole student body of both schools for any given game plus thier
parents... something like 5,000 seats and that's a second tier team
here....

some NCAA div 2 schools would love an arena that large.

diosdado

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Mar 19, 2003, 9:20:33 AM3/19/03
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No, I am stating a case in which the NBA is relevant this time of the
year when you said it was irrelevant. I was also proving a point in
which college players play to earn money in the short run (Michigan
and all the underclass defections to the NBA) and in the long run.

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Daniel Seriff

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Mar 19, 2003, 5:57:07 PM3/19/03
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:20:33 -0600, diosdado wrote
(in message <a4455af9.03031...@posting.google.com>):

> No, I am stating a case in which the NBA is relevant this time of the
> year when you said it was irrelevant. I was also proving a point in
> which college players play to earn money in the short run (Michigan
> and all the underclass defections to the NBA) and in the long run.

Like I said, you're thinking about this way too hard.

The NBA may be relevant to itself, but so is everything else.

Ron Blancarte

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Mar 20, 2003, 4:34:03 AM3/20/03
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Daniel Seriff used 100% recycled electrons to write:

>On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 8:20:33 -0600, diosdado wrote
>(in message <a4455af9.03031...@posting.google.com>):
>
>> No, I am stating a case in which the NBA is relevant this time of the
>> year when you said it was irrelevant. I was also proving a point in
>> which college players play to earn money in the short run (Michigan
>> and all the underclass defections to the NBA) and in the long run.
>
>Like I said, you're thinking about this way too hard.
>
>The NBA may be relevant to itself, but so is everything else.

Well, I guess it goes to the level of fan that you are. I follow the
NBA in passing during the regular season. Since they allow just about
everyone in the playoffs, it really doesn't matter where you finish in
the standings (except for the whole home court advantage thing). And
also for the most part, with an 82 game schedule, a single game has
little effect on the overall outcome of the season. For me, the real
(and only) NBA season begins during the playoffs. Those are the games
I care about.

On the flip side, the NCAA has fewer games, thus they are more
important. The Tournament has a TON more excitement with it's 1 and
done feel. And overall, you are talking about guys playing for the
sake of playing (sorry Dio, when you consider that there are only
about 70 players drafted each year and there are over 3500 D1 players,
most of them are realistic about their chances of making the pros), if
you ignore the ultra small percentage of corruption.

But then there are those who feel that the NBA is all that, and the
highest level of play, thus the best overall. That just isn't me.

RonB

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