Best draft ever
R R
subjective but I would like to know
which year of the NBA draft do you believe infused the most talent into the
NBA? Put another way
what do you think is the best NBA draft of all time, what year and which
players made it so??
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Gary Collard
>
> I expect different answers on this one, and of course this issue is
> subjective but I would like to know
> which year of the NBA draft do you believe infused the most talent into the
> NBA? Put another way
> what do you think is the best NBA draft of all time, what year and which
> players made it so??
Probably 1985 with Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, John
Stockton, Otis Thorpe, Sam Perkins, Kevin Willis, Jerome Kersey, Alvin
Robertson, Vern Fleming, Antoine Carr, Jay Humphries, Craig Ehlo
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Alson Wong
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> Probably 1985 with Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, John
> Stockton, Otis Thorpe, Sam Perkins, Kevin Willis, Jerome Kersey, Alvin
> Robertson, Vern Fleming, Antoine Carr, Jay Humphries, Craig Ehlo
That was 1984. And I would put that draft at the top of my list.
igor eduardo küpfer
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There are different ways of looking at this. I'm not convinced that choosing
which draft had the best players is a good description of the best draft --
I'm more inclined to think that the best draft is the one that produces the
most nba players period. In any case, the top 10 drafts (1st rounds only), by
different criteria:
By total points score by all players:
year totPts
1 1985 41494
2 1981 40062
3 1984 39630
4 1988 33933
5 1977 33572
6 1983 33467
7 1992 32605
8 1987 32602
9 1989 32577
10 1982 29407
By average career points for all drafted players:
year avgPts
1 1959 1844
2 1960 1752
3 1981 1741
4 1962 1734
5 1985 1728
6 1965 1663
7 1984 1651
8 1977 1526
9 1975 1475
10 1966 1471
By average career games:
year avgGms
1 1985 701
2 1959 686
3 1981 651
4 1984 622
5 1962 618
6 1987 612
7 1983 610
8 1960 590
9 1988 585
10 1977 581
By MVP Awards produced per player:
year avgMVP
1 1959 0.50000
2 1984 0.25000
3 1972 0.15385
4 1978 0.13636
5 1960 0.11111
6 1985 0.08333
7 1968 0.07143
8 1970 0.05882
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Gary Collard
Wouldn't these averages be subject to skew by an outlier (that would be
you, Mr Chamberlain)?
Chris Smith
In article <l359jvkm0e9k3rm3c...@4ax.com>, igor eduardo k署fer
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> On Sat, 09 Aug 2003 06:14:24 GMT, "Alson Wong" <also...@earthlink.net.block>
> wrote in <4j0Za.3763$M6.2...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>:
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>>"Gary Collard" <garyc...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>news:3F343447...@netscape.net...
>>> Probably 1985 with Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Charles Barkley, John
>>> Stockton, Otis Thorpe, Sam Perkins, Kevin Willis, Jerome Kersey, Alvin
>>> Robertson, Vern Fleming, Antoine Carr, Jay Humphries, Craig Ehlo
>>
>>That was 1984. And I would put that draft at the top of my list.
>>
>
> There are different ways of looking at this. I'm not convinced that choosing
> which draft had the best players is a good description of the best draft --
> I'm more inclined to think that the best draft is the one that produces the
> most nba players period. In any case, the top 10 drafts (1st rounds only), by
> different criteria:
Avg PARBS of the top 58 draftees of every draft would probably be the
ultimate judge of the best draft ever. Go to it, igor.
Until then, I'm going with 1984, followed by 85, 92, and 81.
1984 NBA Draft
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1st Round
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1. Akeem Olajuwon Houston Houston
2. Sam Bowie Kentucky Portland
3. Michael Jordan North Carolina Chicago
4. Sam Perkins North Carolina Dallas
5. Charles Barkley Auburn Philadelphia
6. Melvin Turpin Kentucky Cleveland (*)
7. Alvin Robertson Arkansas San Antonio
8. Lancaster Gordon Louisville LA Clippers
9. Otis Thorpe Providence Kansas City
10. Leon Wood Cal State Fullerton Philadelphia
11. Kevin Willis Michigan State Atlanta
12. Tim McCormick Michigan Seattle (*)
13. Jay Humphries Colorado Phoenix
14. Michael Cage San Diego State LA Clippers
15. Terrance Stansbury Temple Dallas
16. John Stockton Gonzaga Utah
17. Jeff Turner Vanderbilt New Jersey
18. Vern Fleming Georgia Indiana
19. Bernard Thompson Fresno State Portland
20. Tony Campbell Ohio State Detroit
21. Kenny Fields UCLA Milwaukee
22. Tom Sewell Lamar Philadelphia
23. Earl Jones District Of Columbia LA Lakers
24. Michael Young Houston Boston
1985 NBA Draft
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1st Round
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1. Patrick Ewing Georgetown New York
2. Wayman Tisdale Oklahoma Indiana
3. Benoit Benjamin Creighton LA Clippers
4. Xavier McDaniel Wichita State Seattle
5. John Koncak SMU Atlanta
6. Joe Kleine Arkansas Sacramento
7. Chris Mullin St. John's Golden State
8. Detlef Schrempf Washington Dallas
9. Charles Oakley Virginia Union Cleveland
10. Ed Pinckney Villanova Phoenix
11. Keith Lee Memphis State Chicago
12. Kenny Green Wake Forest Washington
13. Karl Malone Louisiana Tech Utah
14. Alfredrick Hughes Loyola (IL) San Antonio
15. Blair Rasmussen Oregon Denver
16. Bill Wennington St. John's Dallas
17. Uwe Blab Indiana Dallas
18. Joe Dumars McNeese State Detroit
19. Steve Harris Tulsa Houston
20. Sam Vincent Michigan State Boston
21. Terry Catledge South Alabama Philadelphia
22. Jerry Reynolds Louisiana State Milwaukee
23. A.C. Green Oregon State LA Lakers
24. Terry Porter WI-Stevens Point Portland
1992 NBA Draft
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1st Round
---------
1. Shaquille O'Neal Louisiana State Orlando
2. Alonzo Mourning Georgetown Charlotte
3. Christian Laettner Duke Minnesota
4. Jim Jackson Ohio State Dallas
5. LaPhonso Ellis Notre Dame Denver
6. Tom Gugliotta North Carolina State Washington
7. Walt Williams Maryland Sacramento
8. Todd Day Arkansas Milwaukee
9. C. Weatherspoon So. Mississippi Philadelphia
10. Adam Keefe Stanford Atlanta
11. Robert Horry Alabama Houston
12. Harold Miner USC Miami
13. Bryant Stith Virginia Denver
14. Malik Sealy St. John's Indiana
15. Anthony Peeler Missouri LA Lakers
16. Randy Woods La Salle LA Clippers
17. Doug Christie Pepperdine Seattle
18. Tracy Murray UCLA Portland (*)
19. Don MacLean UCLA Washington (**)
20. Hubert Davis North Carolina New York
21. Jon Barry Georgia Tech Boston
22. Oliver Miller Arkansas Phoenix
23. Lee Mayberry Arkansas Milwaukee
24. Latrell Sprewell Alabama Golden State
25. Elmore Spencer UNLV LA Clippers
26. David Johnson Syracuse Portland
27. Byron Houston Oklahoma State Chicago
niteowlned
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TURNER --- !
No wonder we sucked for so long.
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Chris Smith
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> And of course out of three great drafts the NJ Nets got ---- JEFF
> TURNER --- !
>
> No wonder we sucked for so long.
Yinka was pretty good though.
niteowlned
For laughs, maybe. :-}
Alson Wong
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>
> J.W.
They weren't drafted in the same year. Bird was drafted in 1978 at #6, and
Magic in 1979 at #1. The 1984 draft is generally considered to be the best
ever: Akeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan, Sam Perkins, Charles Barkley, Alvin
Robertson, Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, John Stockton, Jerome Kersey. That's
eight NBA titles, seven MVPs, and four players who were the best at their
respective positions during their careers (Olajuwon, Jordan, Barkley,
Stockton).
The Blue
>>Magic in 1979 at #1. The 1984 draft is generally considered to be the best
>>ever: Akeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan, Sam Perkins, Charles Barkley, Alvin
>>Robertson, Otis Thorpe, Kevin Willis, John Stockton, Jerome Kersey. That's
>>eight NBA titles, seven MVPs, and four players who were the best at their
>>respective positions during their careers (Olajuwon, Jordan, Barkley,
>>Stockton).
> think these two players helped make the NBA what it is today. They
> were amazing to watch, and apart from M. Jordan, they were probably
> two of the best players I have ever saw.
> J.W.
BTW, who were the 5 teams that passed on Bird and who did they draft?
Please don't tell me Detroit had a chance on him....?
1978 NBA Draft, First Round
First Round Player College
1. Portland Trail Blazers Mychal Thompson Minnesota
2. Kansas City Kings Phil Ford North Carolina
3. Indiana Pacers Rick Robey Kentucky
4. New York Knicks Michael Ray Richardson Montana
5. Golden State Warriors Purvis Short Jackson State
6. Boston Celtics Larry Bird Indiana State
7. Portland Trail Blazers Ron Brewer Arkansas
8. Boston Celtics Freeman Williams Portland State
9. Chicago Bulls Reggie Theus Nevada-Las Vegas
10. Atlanta Hawks Butch Lee Marquette
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> BTW, who were the 5 teams that passed on Bird and who did they draft?
> Please don't tell me Detroit had a chance on him....?
I wouldn't call it passing on Bird. It was a territorial
rights thing that Boston used.
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Larry Coon wrote:
> Jon W. wrote:
>
>
>>BTW, who were the 5 teams that passed on Bird and who did they draft?
>>Please don't tell me Detroit had a chance on him....?
>
>
> I wouldn't call it passing on Bird. It was a territorial
> rights thing that Boston used.
The pacers passed on bird I think they would have territorial rights to
bird. He went to college there indiana state so I would think indiana
would have rights to him. They took rick robey from Kentucky with the
third pick.
Larry Coon
> The pacers passed on bird I think they would have territorial rights to
> bird. He went to college there indiana state so I would think indiana
> would have rights to him. They took rick robey from Kentucky with the
> third pick.
I think I stand corrected on Bird being a territorial pick.
It was Heinsohn the Celtics used territorial rights on. Bird
was just clever manuvering on Auerbach's part. Celtics.com
says this:
Larry Bird’s selection in the 1978 draft has to be one of
the best picks in sports history. Auerbach, knowing the
chances of Bird leaving college as a junior were slim
to none, took Bird anyways, because he thought he was
that good.
Muskrat McHenry
I'm so old...I actually remember that. Boston drafted Bird in 78 but he
stayed in college. Boston had to sign him after his senior year basketball
season had ended and before the draft, or he was eligible for the draft
again. They did and Magic Johnson was picked first overall in the 79 draft.
That's why both Bird and Johnson came into the league in the same year.
Alson Wong
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> Larry Bird's selection in the 1978 draft has to be one of
> the best picks in sports history. Auerbach, knowing the
> chances of Bird leaving college as a junior were slim
> to none, took Bird anyways, because he thought he was
> that good.
Best draft pick in NBA history, IMO. After his junior year, Bird was
generally regarded as a very good player but not yet as a potential
superstar, which is one reason why he was still available at #6.
Dutch
correctly.
The best draft ever was like 83 or 84.................at least according to
the experts.
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> wrote:
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