Talk about bad luck
Huang Gang
When Robert Horry made his season-saving shot against the Sacramento
Kings in 2002, when Derek Fisher hit his "0.4" buzzer-beater against
the San Antonio Spurs in 2004 and when Fisher drove a dagger into the
heart of the Orlando Magic last week, Hedo Turkoglu was playing for
the opposition. . . .
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-crowe18-2009jun18,0,1324330.column?page=2
Magic-MARK-er
news:8e28c53b-5280-4995...@s38g2000prg.googlegr
oups.com:
> When Orlando thinks about resigning Hedo, they should
> consider this
>
> When Robert Horry made his season-saving shot against the
> Sacramento Kings in 2002, when Derek Fisher hit his "0.4"
> buzzer-beater against the San Antonio Spurs in 2004 and
> when Fisher drove a dagger into the heart of the Orlando
> Magic last week, Hedo Turkoglu was playing for the
> opposition. . . .
>
What the Orlando Magic need to remember when trying to resign
Turkeyglue is that he does not the heart of a winner. He is
not the same big time shot maker like a Robrt Horry or a
Derrick Fisher is. We all watched Hedo's play for the Sacto
Queens, throughout the few years they were able to compete
with the Lakers. Hedo wasn't a big shot maker then and he will
never be a big shot maker. He just does not have it in him.
Mark
PeterL
> Huang Gang <kongwon...@gmail.com> wrote innews:8e28c53b-5280-4995...@s38g2000prg.googlegr
When Hedo played for Sacto he was just starting in the NBA. He was
not a starter. He proved he was a big shot maker during this playoff,
until Ariza shut him down.
$Bill
>
> What the Orlando Magic need to remember when trying to resign
> Turkeyglue is that he does not the heart of a winner. He is
> not the same big time shot maker like a Robrt Horry or a
> Derrick Fisher is. We all watched Hedo's play for the Sacto
> Queens, throughout the few years they were able to compete
> with the Lakers. Hedo wasn't a big shot maker then and he will
> never be a big shot maker. He just does not have it in him.
Geez, not every player needs to be a big shot maker. I'd take
ol turkey anytime as a solid performer. A game should never
need to get to the point where you need a 'big shot' if you're
doing what needs to be done. I'd take good solid, smart players
that never get into a 'must make' situation anytime over having
a big shot maker (make that sucker obsolete).
Jeff Mayner
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Well, with the help of an injury. Just another one of those things that fell
the Lakers way. Let's face it, we were lucky this year, to an extent, and
things may have been different.
Luck beats good.
B
I mostly agree that he showed himself to be fairly clutch
throughout most of the playoffs, but I'm hesitant to credit his
failings in the Finals to Ariza's free throw defense. ;) There is
still something missing. I'd still sign him, though, if I was Orlando.
Chainsaw
So would I. Turkeyglue has game.
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HS
That's not fair. He hit some big shots in the playoffs. Especially
against the Cavs.
Magic-MARK-er
news:9c371029-de00-4103...@z20g2000prh.googlegr
oups.com:
> On Jun 18, 5:52�am, "Magic-MARK-er"
> <magicmar...@inAbox.com> wrote:
>> Huang Gang <kongwon...@gmail.com> wrote
>> innews:8e28c53b-5280-4995-ae4f-23
> 96b84...@s38g2000prg.googlegr
>> oups.com:
>>
>> > When Orlando thinks about resigning Hedo, they should
>> > consider this
>>
>> > When Robert Horry made his season-saving shot against
>> > the Sacramento Kings in 2002, when Derek Fisher hit his
>> > "0.4" buzzer-beater against the San Antonio Spurs in
>> > 2004 and when Fisher drove a dagger into the heart of
>> > the Orlando Magic last week, Hedo Turkoglu was playing
>> > for the opposition. . . .
>>
>> What the Orlando Magic need to remember when trying to
>> resign Turkeyglue is that he does not the heart of a
>> winner. He is not the same big time shot maker like a
>> Robrt Horry or a Derrick Fisher is. We all watched Hedo's
>> play for the Sacto Queens, throughout the few years they
>> were able to compete with the Lakers. Hedo wasn't a big
>> shot maker then and he will never be a big shot maker. He
>> just does not have it in him.
>>
>> Mark
>
>
> When Hedo played for Sacto he was just starting in the NBA.
> He was not a starter. He proved he was a big shot maker
> during this playoff, until Ariza shut him down.
>
Actually you just proved my point so I can now rest my case.
The fact that Trevor shut Hedo down proves the fact that Hedo
is not a big shot maker. Big shot makers don't let other
players shut them down as you say. But shot makers make the
shot when it really counts and Hedo doesn't so that.
Mark
Magic-MARK-er
news:h1dk32$8su$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
You're right. 95% of the time Hedo plays pretty smart
basketball and he is a good fit for the Magic. But when a game
is on the line (as we were relating to here) I would rather
see other players who I would trust more, taking that "big
shot".
Mark
stringfellow
Unclutch?
Terraholm
> Was it last year that this newsgroup elected Turkoglu to the League of
> Unclutch?
Last 5 years game winning shots:
Does not include these playoffs
Game Winning Shot Opportunity = 24 seconds or less left in the game,
team with the ball is either tied or down by 1 to 2 points.
http://82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
There are 14 players with more than 10 winning FGs
8 players with 9 game winning FGs including Duncan and Gasol...last of
those with 9 is Ranked 22nd (KG)
7 players with 8 game winning FGs
League average FGP is .298
22nd Kevin Garnett 9-33 .273
23rd Hedo Turkoglu 8-16 .500 2-3 FTs 3 asts
24th Derek Fisher 8-20 .400 2-2 2 asts
25th Chris Paul 8-21 .381
Huang Gang
I was just being a smart ass. Didn't expect such a high turn out.
haha