I Say, If Bynum Can't Answer The Bell, Give Mbenga A Shot At Big Baby Davis
Ironside
only for 10 or 12 minutes. Let him hack away at Davis.
warped
> He can physically matchup better against Davis than Odom. Even is its
> only for 10 or 12 minutes. Let him hack away at Davis.
Mbenga would be worse versus Davis.
Davis is very quick with his feet for a guy of his bulk. He's done
most of his damage when Odom (and Pau on occasion) get caught in
isolations outside the paint. He's able to maneuver around them very
effectively. Odom has been failing to box out, also, which is not as
forgivable as getting beat off the dribble by the quicker Davis.
Josh Powell may be our hope for matching up with Davis, but does this
series really hinge on how well we match up with Davis?
Ironside
>
> Josh Powell may be our hope for matching up with Davis, but does this
> series really hinge on how well we match up with Davis?
It did last night.
paul...@yahoo.com
> Mbenga would be worse versus Davis.
Yeah, you wouldn't have Mbenga guard Davis - he could guard Rasheed or
Perk though. Pau would shut Davis right down.
In Game 5, I would use Mbenga to give Pau a breather. He needs to
come out in the 3rd for a few minutes so he is fresh to bang in the
4th.
Chainsaw
It hinges on how well we can collectively counter Davis, Wallace,
Garnett, and Perkins, and without Bynum our chances are slim to none.
Giving MBenga a shot would probably be our best option if Bynum can't go.
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but in practice there is.
warped
Pau's footwork is great, but I think his lateral movement is slower
than Odom's. Pau would fare worse than Odom in guarding Davis around
the perimeter. And we definitely do NOT want Pau getting into foul
trouble while trying to keep up with a smaller player one on one
around the perimeter.
We can try Powell, but I think we're just gonna have to give up some
points to Davis.(hmmm... Artest?)
warped
Pau can foul all four of those guys out of the game. The team needs to
find a way to get the ball into the post.
Ironside
>
> Pau can foul all four of those guys out of the game. The team needs to
> find a way to get the ball into the post.
>
Someone other than kobe knocking down a few jumpers would be a good
start. Until that happens, the Celtics can continue to crowd the
middle of the court and clog the passing lanes.
paul...@yahoo.com
> Pau's footwork is great, but I think his lateral movement is slower
> than Odom's. Pau would fare worse than Odom in guarding Davis around
> the perimeter. And we definitely do NOT want Pau getting into foul
> trouble while trying to keep up with a smaller player one on one
> around the perimeter.
If Pau can guard Amare, he can certainly guard Davis.
> We can try Powell, but I think we're just gonna have to give up some
> points to Davis.(hmmm... Artest?)
Artest would be better than Powell.
Silk_Wilkes
It's a shame Odom and Artest aren't better, consistent shooters. I
think A.C. Green shot the ball with more confidence from the perimeter.
Alson Wong
>
> It's a shame Odom and Artest aren't better, consistent shooters. I
> think A.C. Green shot the ball with more confidence from the
> perimeter.
As did Robert Horry.
warped
If Shannon and Brown aren't hitting, and the Lakers are behind in the
second half, then look for Sasha to get quality PT.
If the Celtics are crowding the paint with defenders, then a set with
Kobe and Pau on the strong side (with Pau posting up and Kobe with
ball near the three point line) should leave Sasha wide open at the
weak side three point line. If they can reverse the ball to him he'll
get wide open shots.
I'd like to see some more high screen/rolls with Kobe/Pau around the
elbow, too. That leaves sooooo many options available.
Dewey
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Not if they play scared like they did last night. That's really the only
explanation I can think of. Kobe's tentativeness - the incessant pump
faking and overdribbling, Pau passing up good shots - they were afraid
to drive and afraid to shoot. Can't have that ever again. No. Never.
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"You are, number 6"
- The New Number 2
Silk_Wilkes
> On Jun 11, 10:48 am, Ironside <old_irons...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 11 June, 10:46, warped <rickb...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > Pau can foul all four of those guys out of the game. The team needs to
> > > find a way to get the ball into the post.
>
> > Someone other than kobe knocking down a few jumpers would be a good
> > start. Until that happens, the Celtics can continue to crowd the
> > middle of the court and clog the passing lanes.
>
> If Shannon and Brown aren't hitting, and the Lakers are behind in the
> second half, then look for Sasha to get quality PT.
>
I thought both Jordan and Sasha brought energy and had it going in
game two, but Phil has no confidence in them. Pulled them a bit
earlier than I woulda liked, a real short leash. OTOH, Rivers didn't
hesitate to ride Smurf and Baby. Maybe the C's were forced to gamble
a bit more due to the position they were in.
VicXnews
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almost left Farmar in too long in game 3...hes not some one you could
'ride'
Silk_Wilkes
Horry = Odom with shooting ability. Although Horry didn't have Odom's
ability to handle the rock in the open court. But Horry had length,
could defend multiple positions, had a knack for getting OREBs, and we
all know about his clutch shooting.
Odom: after all these years, he still hasn't developed a shooting
touch, which is disappointing. Artest is similar also, although he's
better. All the open mid-range stuff, whether from the baseline or
elbow, have to be money in this league. Even challenged shots from
that area, it's imperative guys knock those down. Spend more time in
the gym, less time on twitter!
warped
Jordan does a better job of keeping up with Nate Robinson than Fisher
does. Robinson is just waaay too quick for Fish.
Robinson can score, but during the first three games he was basically
dribbling through 20 seconds of the clock and then firing up and jump
shot. I'm completely OK with that. If he scores while doing that, so
be it. But in game 4 he was involving teammates much better, and that
could spell trouble.
Laurance
> only for 10 or 12 minutes. Let him hack away at Davis.
Mbenga is Bench Fodder.
M. B.
So you're saying to attack the Celtics at their strength - which is the
defense. It just might be crazy enough to work! (Or not, but it sure
is crazy!)
bozak
> He can physically matchup better against Davis than Odom. Even is its
> only for 10 or 12 minutes. Let him hack away at Davis.
he doesnt have too... mbenga is a pretty decent athlete, maybe not basketball inclined
as much as we like, but he isnt slow and can block shots which is what we need most
from him on defense... we have plenty of offensive firepower, that isnt our problem...
defense is what we are concerned with...
bozak
> On Jun 11, 8:20 am, Ironside <old_irons...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> He can physically matchup better against Davis than Odom. Even is its
>> only for 10 or 12 minutes. Let him hack away at Davis.
>
> Mbenga would be worse versus Davis.
i disagree... mbenga is not slow a foot... his major problem is on the offensive
end of the floor...
>
> Davis is very quick with his feet for a guy of his bulk. He's done
> most of his damage when Odom (and Pau on occasion) get caught in
> isolations outside the paint. He's able to maneuver around them very
> effectively. Odom has been failing to box out, also, which is not as
> forgivable as getting beat off the dribble by the quicker Davis.
mbenga can throw his shit out of the paint just like bynum and pau have
been doing...
>
> Josh Powell may be our hope for matching up with Davis, but does this
> series really hinge on how well we match up with Davis?
not even close, way to light in the ass...
bozak
powell is madness...
$Bill
>
> Pau's footwork is great, but I think his lateral movement is slower
> than Odom's. Pau would fare worse than Odom in guarding Davis around
> the perimeter.
Except Odom won't stay in front of his man - he'll let him go right
by matador style and try to guard from the side/back. He doesn't
play good 1-on-1 D at all.
$Bill
>
> Not if they play scared like they did last night. That's really the only
> explanation I can think of. Kobe's tentativeness - the incessant pump
> faking and overdribbling, Pau passing up good shots - they were afraid
> to drive and afraid to shoot. Can't have that ever again. No. Never.
They need to spread the floor as much as they can and Kobe or
Farmar need to drive past the first defender and get to the paint
without getting stripped. Then it's shoot, lay off to a big or
bring it back out and start over again. They weren't doing that
more than a couple of times yesterday.
$Bill
It worked before. They had a couple BOS players on the bench in Q1
of game 2. They need to be aggressive without losing the ball to
strips and they'll do alright.
Dewey
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But when they did, they got easy layups and/or fouls.