Cavs want NBA to review Kobes actions
VicXnews
Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
suspended in the past for dirty plays
$Bill
And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
Blazer Fan Dan
> VicXnews wrote:
> >http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/12/disgruntled_lakers_li...
>
> > Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
> > league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
> > suspended in the past for dirty plays
>
> And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
Any person who claims they like Phil Jackson as their coach no longer
has any right to make fun of other teams, fans or coaches, who whine
or complain about any and everything under the sun.
$Bill
Have no idea where that came from.
RzR
"$Bill" <ne...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in message
news:hh5upf$t9$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
after that joint display of whining from the lakers players, fans and coach,
you have the nerve to call someone else out on that?
priceless :)
VicXnews
september.org:
don't know but it sounds like it's been simmering for a while...
Blazer Fan Dan
Phil makes subtle comments about other teams taking cheap shots, or
the refs being bad, or the fans of other teams being bad.
That's Phil's m.o.
Terraholm
> On Dec 26, 3:02 pm, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote:
>> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
>>> On Dec 26, 1:21 pm, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote:
>>>> VicXnews wrote:
>>>>> http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/12/disgruntled_lakers_li...
>>>>> Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
>>>>> league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
>>>>> suspended in the past for dirty plays
>>>> And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
>>> Any person who claims they like Phil Jackson as their coach no longer
>>> has any right to make fun of other teams, fans or coaches, who whine
>>> or complain about any and everything under the sun.
>> Have no idea where that came from.
>
> Phil makes subtle comments about other teams taking cheap shots, or
> the refs being bad,
The league was changing the rules in 2001 to stop Shaq...Phil was
drowned out by Shaq on that one...=)
They do not protect his stars...
6/13/09
The NBA fined Phil Jackson (LAL) $25,000 for criticizing the refs during
Thursday's Game 4 LAL-Orl game.
5/26/09
The NBA fined Phil Jackson (LAL) $25,000 for publicly criticizing the
refs after Monday's LAL-Den game.
I remember a few fans whining about him being fined...I said he would
get his money's worth and he did.
3/15/07
The NBA fined Phil Jackson and the LA Lakers $50,000 each for Jackson's
comments that the league was on a witch hunt against Kobe Bryant.
mostly political stuff that IMO part of what he is paid to do...
Because Politicking/whining works. As long as it works for the opponent
you do not have much choice but counter. Phil does tend to lead the way
until recently when Pop and the Spurs took over. Phil is better at it
than Pop usually, not yesterday...
And the Cavs are right, take the winning whining ball out of Phil's
court here... for the next game and a potential finals...
It is too bad that kind of politicking is part of the game. But there is
politics in everything...humans. Refs too.
There was an article about BRoy last year were he was asked why he was
doing some whining when he never had before. He said something like
'yeah I hate that, that's not me at all...but it works so I had to do
it'...said he watched others do it and then get calls and he was polite
and did not, all-star did not help. He listened for awhile to see what
worked or not.....started a little whining and acting and scowling...
and sure enough started getting calls... was like suddenly "oh you mind
getting whacked over both arms and driven into the floor in the lane?
Well do not know how I missed that call, better watch for it"...
There is a fine line there for when it backfires...about 3 years ago
Kobe was whining about every call...I was at a game at the RG and live
you could really see it...he and Zach were taking turns not getting back
on D to cry about calls and no-calls at the refs while their teams
played 4 on 5. Not just a couple of times. Portland played better
without Zach than lakers did without Kobe...and you could tell he was
going to get less calls not more...
I was going to say I did not remember Phil ever asking the league to
investigate dirty plays...but Bowen comes to mind..and being Phil they
rightly starting calling his little trick. No one else complaining was
taken seriously no matter how many stars got severely sprained ankles
and he was right on that one.
> or the fans of other teams being bad.
> That's Phil's m.o.
That is not part of any game...
If he is trying to be funny he misses...
Sac the cow town and cow people...
Adelmann as Hitler crap.
Timmy when a free agent should not go to Orlando, nope he should go to
Chicago where the city has a real culture. I do not rememebr how he
described Orlando besides lacking culture...something old people.
He used to make cracks about Cleveland and their fans a decade ago...and
Detroit...
Last year asked why the lakers has such a bad record at the RG..he says
it must be because it aways rains and makes his team dreary like the
town... and all the gloomy people is depressing. (Judging by the RG
crowd? What does it take us to look cheery =)
Jackson is an ass, but he has cut down a lot of that denigration of fans
and cities the last few years, maybe Jeannie is making him be nicer...
---
Laurel T
"The only difference between me and
General Custer is that he didn't have to
watch the game films the next day"
A coach after a blow out loss
$Bill
He's just trying to avoid the fine when it comes to the refs.
As far as the opp. fans, that's just his observations.
$Bill
Hmm, I could care less about what the fans did or didn't do at Staples.
I don't think anyone in this forum would have done so and we're the
only ones that count. I didn't hear much if any whining from players
or coaches other than that PJ didn't think the reffing was up to snuff
(I don't call that whining - I thought it was poor all night myself).
The refs were letting them play and that hurts LA who is more of a
finesse team than CLE (and it's not the POs).
Terraholm
> As far as the opp. fans, that's just his observations.
He called the blazer fans 'gloomy' from observing them?
VicXnews
@mid.individual.net:
> $Bill wrote:
>
>> As far as the opp. fans, that's just his observations.
>
> He called the blazer fans 'gloomy' from observing them?
>
and when was the last time YOU saw the sun??? =8-)
Terraholm
> RzR wrote:
>>
>> "$Bill" <ne...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in message
>> news:hh5upf$t9$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> VicXnews wrote:
>>>> http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/12/disgruntled_lakers_likely_to_b.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
>>>> league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
>>>> suspended in the past for dirty plays
>>>
>>> And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
>>
>>
>> after that joint display of whining from the lakers players, fans and
>> coach, you have the nerve to call someone else out on that?
>>
>> priceless :)
>
> Hmm, I could care less about what the fans did or didn't do at Staples.
>
> I don't think anyone in this forum would have done so and we're the
> only ones that count. I didn't hear much if any whining from players
> or coaches other than that PJ didn't think the reffing was up to snuff
Afterwards you must mean?
Likely did not say much after the game because he did not want to add a
25K fine and another 25K for the Buss's to his bad Xmas. =)
How many Ts were handed out?
PJ refused to send a replacement in the game when Odom got his butt
tossed out for the 2nd time this year.. what do you call that? I called
it a 'new one' for me...
VicXnews
@mid.individual.net:
> I called
> it a 'new one' for me...
>
PJ does that all the time...I love it
Terraholm
Sunset today.
Rain this month:
http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstation/WXDailyHistory.asp?ID=KORCOOSB4&day=17&year=2009&month=12&graphspan=month
Blazer Fan Dan
> Terraholm <terraholmSPAM...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7pnt6aFqv2U1
Today.
VicXnews
news:7pnu4a...@mid.individual.net:
nice...
quick...everyone and I mean everyone pack up and move to Oregon
VicXnews
9d23-bc3...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
we're all on our way...I know Laker games are available up there =8-)
Terraholm
> VicXnews wrote:
>> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7pnt6aFqv2U1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> $Bill wrote:
>>>
>>>> As far as the opp. fans, that's just his observations.
>>> He called the blazer fans 'gloomy' from observing them?
>>>
>>
>> and when was the last time YOU saw the sun??? =8-)
>
> Sunset today.
>
> Rain this month:
That one lies, I knew it rained last week...
http://www.accuweather.com/us/or/coos%20bay/97420/forecast-climo.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&zipChg=1&metric=0
Blazer Fan Dan
> Blazer Fan Dan <blazerfan...@gmail.com> wrote in
> > Today.
>
> we're all on our way...I know Laker games are available up there =8-)
Actually, our rain isn't nearly as bad as people think (and yes, I
know you were joking around).
As for the game on the 8th, I fully expect the Lakers to win. But than
again, who the hell knows. With how the Blazers have been playing the
last week or so, anything is possible.
I'm actually listening to Frank Sinatras cover of "something", that I
have 'earmarked' on my lala.com account. I can't be mad now.
VicXnews
news:7pnupf...@mid.individual.net:
that won't stop anyone...
VicXnews
b97b-f8e...@z27g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 26, 6:22�pm, VicXnews <n...@news.com> wrote:
>> Blazer Fan Dan <blazerfan...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> > Today.
>>
>> we're all on our way...I know Laker games are available up there =8-)
>
>
I'm sure PJ was too
> Actually, our rain isn't nearly as bad as people think (and yes, I
> know you were joking around).
>
> As for the game on the 8th, I fully expect the Lakers to win. But than
> again, who the hell knows. With how the Blazers have been playing the
> last week or so, anything is possible.
>
glad they are getting it out of their system now and be slumpin when we
play...
> I'm actually listening to Frank Sinatras cover of "something", that I
> have 'earmarked' on my lala.com account. I can't be mad now.
>
Dean Martin guy myself...I burned a 20 cd series(time/life??) of Sinatra
for my father...at 82 he's set for life...
Blazer Fan Dan
> Blazer Fan Dan <blazerfan...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3c5c66a9-1c14-4eaf-
> b97b-f8ef46aa7...@z27g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
I prefer Martin myself, there aren't too many Sinatra songs I like.
This cover of "something" was just nice.
I'm actually hoping they do a Rock Band for the Beach Boys (although
there's probably less "rock" songs they'd do).
Terraholm
All the time? And he gets a T... on top of the Ts the player just got?
Why would you love that?
$Bill
>
> I prefer Martin myself, there aren't too many Sinatra songs I like.
> This cover of "something" was just nice.
I'll pass on both of them - not into those old crooners.
> I'm actually hoping they do a Rock Band for the Beach Boys (although
> there's probably less "rock" songs they'd do).
Love the BB harmony - but there's gotta be more to life than
surfin'. :)
$Bill
He usually manages to get them in just under the time limit though.
VicXnews
@mid.individual.net:
he's done it a half a dozen times this decade...just his way of getting the
refs attention...I love it cuz I think its how you should make a statement to
the refe rather than run around ranting
VicXnews
september.org:
> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
>>
>> I prefer Martin myself, there aren't too many Sinatra songs I like.
>> This cover of "something" was just nice.
>
> I'll pass on both of them - not into those old crooners.
>
I grew up listening to Volare...
>> I'm actually hoping they do a Rock Band for the Beach Boys (although
>> there's probably less "rock" songs they'd do).
>
> Love the BB harmony - but there's gotta be more to life than
> surfin'. :)
>
I wish there wasn't...
Terraholm
> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7po05jF7u4U1
> @mid.individual.net:
>
>> VicXnews wrote:
>>> Terraholm <terrahol...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7pntikFsiiU1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> I called
>>>> it a 'new one' for me...
>>>>
>>> PJ does that all the time...I love it
>> All the time? And he gets a T... on top of the Ts the player just got?
>> Why would you love that?
>>
>
> he's done it a half a dozen times this decade...just his way of getting the
> refs attention...I love it cuz I think its how you should make a statement to
> the refe rather than run around ranting
Either way costs them a point. Yesterday it did not matter, but pissing
off the refs might have lingering affects.
Terraholm
Live at the RG, just after the city wide rain dance...
$Bill
Hey Vic - just watched G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra and the CGI was
great, the rest was so-so. I'm doing Hardwired now with the remake
of The Taking of Pelham 1 2 3 and Aliens in the Attic coming up next.
Will let you now if one of them tickles my fancy (or anything else).
Blazer Fan Dan
the vast majority of their songs had nothing to do with surfing.
VicXnews
september.org:
I saw Invictus yesterday...very good...best of the year
Alson Wong
>
> I saw Invictus yesterday...very good...best of the year
Have you seen Avatar yet?
VicXnews
$gg6.1...@newsfe25.iad:
> VicXnews wrote:
>>
>> I saw Invictus yesterday...very good...best of the year
>
> Have you seen Avatar yet?
>
no...not yet
Alson Wong
>
> no...not yet
A friend of mine saw it twice in the first three days of release. I saw it
last week. It's definitely something that you should see in a theater, and
not just on DVD or cable. It takes filmmaking to a completely new level like
Star Wars did.
VicXnews
I don't get to the theater often and I figured it was best seen on the big
screen
$Bill
The last movie I saw in a theater (besides a free ticket to LoTR),
was Star Trek (the one with V'ger) in a drive-in.
At the time, I was working at JPL and was quite familiar with the
Voyager spacecraft - I almost exploded when they came up over the top
of that amphitheater type structure and there was a Voyager SC sitting
there - at that moment I was feeling kinda ripped-off.
Gary Collard
> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
>>> VicXnews wrote:
>>>> http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/12/disgruntled_lakers_li...
>>>>
>>>> Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
>>>> league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
>>>> suspended in the past for dirty plays
>>> And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
>>
>> Any person who claims they like Phil Jackson as their coach no longer
>> has any right to make fun of other teams, fans or coaches, who whine
>> or complain about any and everything under the sun.
>
> Have no idea where that came from.
No kidding!
--
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buys a senator, he uses my money, too." -- Mark Steyn
Gary Collard
> On Dec 26, 3:02 pm, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote:
>> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
>>> On Dec 26, 1:21 pm, "$Bill" <n...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote:
>>>> VicXnews wrote:
>>>>> http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2009/12/disgruntled_lakers_li...
>>>>> Team officials declined to comment but it is expected they will ask the
>>>>> league to review Bryant's actions on that play. He has been fined and
>>>>> suspended in the past for dirty plays
>>>> And I thought BOS fans were the whiners.
>>> Any person who claims they like Phil Jackson as their coach no longer
>>> has any right to make fun of other teams, fans or coaches, who whine
>>> or complain about any and everything under the sun.
>> Have no idea where that came from.
>
> the refs being bad, or the fans of other teams being bad.
>
> That's Phil's m.o.
OTOH he complains a tiny fraction of what any other coach does in game,
while complaining a little more in pressers, so overall he's the least
whiny coach of the saturation media age.
Gary Collard
> "$Bill" <ne...@SPAMOLAtodbe.com> wrote in news:hh6htn$rcn$2...@news.eternal-
> september.org:
>
>> Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
>>> I prefer Martin myself, there aren't too many Sinatra songs I like.
>>> This cover of "something" was just nice.
>> I'll pass on both of them - not into those old crooners.
>>
>
> I grew up listening to Volare...
I had a friend that grew up driving one :)