Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney Says Hate Monger Talk Show Host Hal Turner Was Trained by the FBI and Worked for them From 2002 to 2007 As An Agent Provocateur When He Threatened Her With Lynching. Land of the Free, Huh?
skep...@aol.com
I am in the Bay Area and rocking with the San Francisco Bay View
newspaper. But something quite insidious is happening and I think you
should know immediately how it involves my friends and me.
Hot on the heels of my learning that the Georgia Green Party might
have been described by the U.S. Government as a "terrorist
organiztion," it has just now come to my attention that a "journalist"
who suggested that I be lynched was actually being paid by our own
government to say that. Now, when I reported it to the FBI, how in
the world was I to know that he was at that time on the FBI's
payroll? Interesting that charges stem from his comments against
Connecticut lawmakers and Illinois judges, but not from the threat
made against me, a sitting Member of Congress at the time! I wonder
why. To whom can I or any other innocent citizen turn when the
government, itself, is the instigator?
John Judge, my Congressional staffer, is the one who reported the
threat. Here is what John just wrote, along with the article that
reports that Turner was on the FBI payroll at the time the threat was
made against me, according to Turner's attorney. See the green
highlights below:
John Judge wrote:
This is the guy who announced a program topic suggesting that Cynthia
McKinney be lynched on her way to the polls to vote in 2006 and
published her campaign office address on the website. He asked how she
would look swinging at the end of a rope and what message it would
send to other "uppity" Blacks. I called NJ Homeland Security and FBI
at the time sincee related to it as a death threat. The FBI agent I
spoke to said "We know all about Mr. Turner". Looks like they did. Now
they say he was trained as an agent provocateur by the FBI to get
others to participate in illegal acts. As Jim Garrison says in the
movie JFK after interviewing Clay Shaw, "I think we got one". Here is
an excerpt _ JJ
"Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied
on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner
was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against
Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in
Illinois deserved to die.
"*But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating,
there was no difference. No difference whatsoever,*" Orozco said."
Harold Charles "Hal" Turner is an American white nationalist and white
supremacist from North Bergen, New Jersey. He was arrested in June
2009 over alleged threats to politicians, and is currently jailed
without bail. Prior to Turner's arrest his program, The Hal Turner
Show, was a webcast from his home once a week, and it depended on
listener donations.
Turner promotes antisemitism (including the rounding up and killing of
Jews)[1], he opposes the existence of the state of Israel[1] and he
denies the Holocaust.[2]
According to the Associated Press Hal Turner has exposed through his
attorney that he worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an "agent
provocateur" and "his job was basically to publish information which
would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their
arrest" [3]
Threats against judges and political figures
You can find more info. on Hal Turner go to search engines,
google.com or ixquick.com
Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others
By KATIE NELSON (AP) – 1 day ago
HARTFORD, Conn. — A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states
for allegedly making threats against lawmakers and judges was trained
by the FBI on how to be deliberately provocative, his attorney said
Tuesday.
Hal Turner worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an "agent
provocateur" and was taught by the agency "what he could say that
wouldn't be crossing the line," defense attorney Michael Orozco said.
"His job was basically to publish information which would cause other
parties to act in a manner which would lead to their arrest," Orozco
said.
Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied
on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner
was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against
Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in
Illinois deserved to die.
"But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating,
there was no difference. No difference whatsoever," Orozco said.
Special Agent Ross Rice, a spokesman for the FBI in Chicago, said he
would not comment on or even confirm Turner's relationship with the
FBI.
Orozco spoke to reporters after a court hearing in Hartford on
Tuesday. Turner, 47, of North Bergen, N.J., did not appear, because he
is in federal custody in Illinois. His arraignment on the Connecticut
charges was rescheduled to Oct. 19.
In June, Turner urged his readers to "take up arms" against
Connecticut lawmakers and suggested government officials should "obey
the Constitution or die," because he was angry over legislation —
later withdrawn — that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic
churches more control over their parish's finances.
He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois federal
appeals judges "deserve to be killed" because they issued a ruling
that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning
handguns. He included their photos and the room numbers of their
chambers at the courthouse.
Orozco officially joined Turner's defense team in the Connecticut case
on Tuesday, with approval from Superior Court Judge David Gold. Orozco
said his Newark, N.J.-based firm has been representing Turner for the
past five years, including during his FBI informant years.
Turner's Connecticut attorney, Matthew R. Potter, said it's too early
to tell which trial will move forward first. Orozco said he plans
First Amendment defenses in both cases.
Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in
Chicago, said the office would not comment on Orozco's statements.
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August 24, 2009
Lynching of Cynthia McKinney urged by ‘journalist’ trained and paid by
FBI
Hal Turner called her ‘a violent, black, racist, bitch’ whose lynching
would teach other Blacks that ‘white people are tired of your
bullshit, behave or die’
by David Swanson
Visiting the Bay Area on a five-day fundraising tour for the SF Bay
View, former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney joins Bay View publisher
Willie Ratcliff at a gathering Friday, Aug. 21, at the Black Dot in
West Oakland. Two days later, on Aug. 23, she learned that a
“journalist” who had called for her lynching in 2006 was working at
the time for the FBI. – Photo: Kamau Amen-Ra
Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney sent an email around on Sunday
in which she wrote:
“[I]t has just now come to my attention that a ‘journalist’ who
suggested that I be lynched was actually being paid by our own
government to say that. Now, when I reported it to the FBI, how in the
world was I to know that he was at that time on the FBI’s payroll?”
“Hate blogger” Hal Turner’s lawyer said last week, and prosecutors
agreed, that Turner was “trained by the FBI on how to be deliberately
provocative” and “worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an ‘agent
provocateur’ and was taught by the agency ‘what he could say that
wouldn’t be crossing the line.’”
Turner is being charged with making death threats against Connecticut
legislators and Illinois judges and is apparently going to claim that
his actions were legal because he did the same sort of thing when
employed by the FBI. In an Associated Press story published Aug. 18,
Katie Nelson writes:
“Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied
on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner
was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against
Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in
Illinois deserved to die.
“‘But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating,
there was no difference. No difference whatsoever,’ [his lawyer]
said.”
This story has also been written up by Wired and by The Southern
Poverty Law Center, but without the McKinney angle.
McKinney wrote in her email: “Interesting that charges stem from his
comments against Connecticut lawmakers and Illinois judges, but not
from the threat made against me, a sitting Member of Congress at the
time!” And apparently the threat against McKinney was made when Turner
admits to having been on the FBI payroll.
John Judge, who worked for McKinney, writes of Turner:
“This is the guy who announced a program topic suggesting that Cynthia
McKinney be lynched on her way to the polls to vote in 2006 and
published her campaign office address on the website. He asked how she
would look swinging at the end of a rope and what message it would
send to other ‘uppity’ Blacks. I called NJ Homeland Security and FBI
at the time …. The FBI agent I spoke to said, ‘We know all about Mr.
Turner.’ Looks like they did.”
[Associated Press caption:] “In this Nov. 19, 2005, file photo, radio
talk show host Hal Turner speaks to the crowd during his ‘Rally
Against Violence’ in Kingston, N.Y. The New Jersey blogger facing
charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers
and judges had training from the FBI on how to be deliberately
provocative, his attorney said Tuesday, Aug. 18, 2009. – Photo: Keith
Ferris, AP
While Turner’s website is down, another website [AssataShakur.org] has
what it claims was posted on Turner’s:
“LYNCHING CONGRESSWOMAN CYNTHIA MCKINNEY: SHOULD IT BE DONE BEFORE HER
JULY 18 PRIMARY ELECTION?
“Tune-in to ‘The Hal Turner Show’ this Wednesday evening from
9:00-11:00 PM eastern US time as we talk about this topic!
“Cynthia McKinney is a violent, black, racist, bitch whose official re-
election campaign web site calls white people ‘crackers’. As such, on
this Wednesday evening’s show I will ask the question ‘Given the
prevalence of black crime in America, would it serve the public good
to LYNCH Congresswoman McKinney within the next few weeks, while she’s
on the campaign trail, so as to send an unmistakable message to other
blacks: white people are tired of your bullshit, behave or die.”
Now, I realize that this sounds like ordinary civil discourse in tea-
partied America, and yet it’s fairly easy to imagine altering it in
ways that would have “crossed the line.” For example, Turner might
have targeted a Republican, or a Democrat in good standing, or a white
person. Surely that would have crossed some line.
This story first appeared Aug. 24 on Let’s Try Democracy: Writings by
David Swanson.
Cynthia McKinney’s Aug. 23 email about the Hal Turner/FBI call for her
lynching
Following is the entire email sent by former Congresswoman and
presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney and received by the SF Bay
View on Aug. 23, 2009. She begins by referring to her current five-day
fundraising tour for the San Francisco Bay View, “Cynthia McKinney’s
Gaza Solidarity Triumph Tour”:
“Friends,
“I am in the Bay Area and rocking with the San Francisco Bay View
newspaper. But something quite insidious is happening and I think you
should know immediately how it involves my friends and me.
“Hot on the heels of my learning that the Georgia Green Party might
have been described by the U.S. Government as a ‘terrorist
organization,’ it has just now come to my attention that a
‘journalist’ who suggested that I be lynched was actually being paid
by our own government to say that. Now, when I reported it to the FBI,
how in the world was I to know that he was at that time on the FBI’s
payroll? Interesting that charges stem from his comments against
Connecticut lawmakers and Illinois judges, but not from the threat
made against me, a sitting Member of Congress at the time! I wonder
why. To whom can I or any other innocent citizen turn when the
government, itself, is the instigator?
“John Judge, my Congressional staffer, is the one who reported the
threat. Here is what John just wrote, along with the article that
reports that Turner was on the FBI payroll at the time the threat was
made against me, according to Turner’s attorney. See the green
highlights below:
“John Judge wrote:
‘This is the guy who announced a program topic suggesting that Cynthia
McKinney be lynched on her way to the polls to vote in 2006 and
published her campaign office address on the website. He asked how she
would look swinging at the end of a rope and what message it would
send to other “uppity” Blacks. I called NJ Homeland Security and FBI
at the time since he related it as a death threat. The FBI agent I
spoke to said, “We know all about Mr. Turner.” Looks like they did.
Now they say he was trained as an agent provocateur by the FBI to get
others to participate in illegal acts. As Jim Garrison says in the
movie “JFK” after interviewing Clay Shaw, “I think we got one.” Here
is an excerpt. – JJ”
[From the Associated Press story reprinted in full below:]
“Prosecutors have acknowledged that Turner was an informant who spied
on radical right-wing organizations, but the defense has said Turner
was not working for the FBI when he allegedly made threats against
Connecticut legislators and wrote that three federal judges in
Illinois deserved to die.
“’But if you compare anything that he did say when he was operating,
there was no difference. No difference whatsoever,’ Orozco said.”
[From Wikipedia:] “Harold Charles ‘Hal’ Turner is an American white
nationalist and white supremacist from North Bergen, New Jersey. He
was arrested in June 2009 over alleged threats to politicians, and is
currently jailed without bail. Prior to Turner’s arrest his program,
The Hal Turner Show, was a webcast from his home once a week, and it
depended on listener donations.
“Turner promotes antisemitism (including the rounding up and killing
of Jews), he opposes the existence of the state of Israel and he
denies the Holocaust.
“According to the Associated Press, Hal Turner has exposed through his
attorney that he worked for the FBI from 2002 to 2007 as an ‘agent
provocateur’ and ‘his job was basically to publish information which
would cause other parties to act in a manner which would lead to their
arrest.’
AP story: ‘Attorney: FBI trained NJ blogger to incite others’
[Here is the Associated Press story referred to above, reprinted in
its entirety with Cynthia McKinney’s green highlighting:]
“by Katie Nelson
“Hartford, Conn., Aug. 18, 2009, AP — A New Jersey blogger facing
“Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.”
Jailed ‘Shock’ Blogger Hal Turner Claims FBI Trained Him to Be ‘Agent
Provocateur’
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2 Responses to “Lynching of Cynthia McKinney urged by ‘journalist’
trained and paid by FBI”
1. MONICA, on August 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm Said:
has anyone gone ahead and urged the LYNCHING OF ALL overfed beady
eyedgreedy big mouthedgluttonous WHITE MEN? fbi trained[whatta sick
joke that is!]or not, if he gets to make f’d up comments towards an
African Woman than i get to make some about the ignorant orignal
immigrants…fat balding white men…dont forget you came from somewhere
else so if you dont like it here, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM, i am
sure your people would love to hear comments like that about the
queen.
2. Chantal, on August 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm Said:
An interesting side note to this is that the internet in the guise of
the persona *Anonymous* exposed Hal Turner as an FBI agent/informant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
“The original allegations that Turner acted as an informant for the
FBI surfaced in 2008 after unidentified hackers claimed on Turner’s
website’s forums that they had read email correspondence between him
and an FBI agent, apparently his handler.”
The site credited is 4chan, which was founded by a 15 year old in
2003.
“Users of 4chan and other websites “raided” Hal Turner by launching
DDoS attacks and prank calling his phone-in radio show during December
2006 and January 2007… The attacks caused Turner’s website to go
offline. This cost thousands of dollars of bandwidth bills according
to Turner. In response, Turner sued 4chan, 7chan, and other websites;
however, he lost his plea for an injunction and failed to receive
letters from the court.” Read their wiki page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
Uhmmm… I can think of a few more sick racist who have a platform from
which they spew venom that could use the same kind of *exposure*. We
all know who they are.
http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/lynching-of-cynthia-mckinney-urged-by-%e2%80%98journalist%e2%80%99-trained-and-paid-by-fbi/
Rob Cypher
If all of these claims are true, than that's just pure evil.
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> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:52:06 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com"
> >Uhmmm… I can think of a few more sick racist who have a platform from
> >which they spew venom that could use the same kind of *exposure*. We
> >all know who they are.
>
> If all of these claims are true, than that's just pure evil.
>
> Permabanned from the Dextroverse and Bluelight
Yes, I agree. The FBI trains agents and associates in how to attack
people of color and Jews on their hate radio stations (which turns out
are secretly scantioned by the US government.) The bombing of Redwood
Summer, Earth First Activists Judi Barry and Daryl Cheney, by the FBI,
took place before the White House blew up the World Trade Center two
times (in 1993 and 2001)--The FBI did every aspect of the 1993 World
Trade Center bombing, the FBI give their guys the chemicals to stir up
and make a bomb, the FBI hired retard men to drive the trucks. I heard
a radio interview of a journalist who said he talked to a white
supremacist leader, who told him that the US government agreed to let
him out of Federal prison so that he could push the US government line
amongst skin head groups the USA wanted to control better. Of course
its not too big of a step for our Masters to sponsor Hate Radio
(during the Civil Rights movement the FBI worked closely with the Klu
Klux Klan) from hate radio and white supremacy skin head groups to the
White House blowing up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, it's
clear these elites are enemies of regular people.
skep...@aol.com
> Rob Cypherhttp://robcypher.livejournal.comhttp://www.myspace.com/robcyphercolle...
Gary Rosen
"Rob Cypher" <bal...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> HARTFORD, Conn. - A New Jersey blogger facing charges in two states
>>> later withdrawn - that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic
>>Turner.' Looks like they did."
>>
>>[Associated Press caption:] "In this Nov. 19, 2005, file photo, radio
>>talk show host Hal Turner speaks to the crowd during his 'Rally
>>Against Violence' in Kingston, N.Y. The New Jersey blogger facing
>>charges in two states for allegedly making threats against lawmakers
>>and judges had training from the FBI on how to be deliberately
>>later withdrawn - that would have given lay members of Roman Catholic
>>churches more control over their parish's finances.
>>"He wrote in Internet postings the same month that the Illinois
>>federal appeals judges 'deserve to be killed' because they issued a
>>ruling that upheld ordinances in Chicago and suburban Oak Park banning
>>handguns. He included their photos and the room numbers of their
>>chambers at the courthouse.
>>"Orozco officially joined Turner's defense team in the Connecticut
>>case on Tuesday, with approval from Superior Court Judge David Gold.
>>Orozco said his Newark, N.J.-based firm has been representing Turner
>>for the past five years, including during his FBI informant years.
>>"Turner's Connecticut attorney, Matthew R. Potter, said it's too early
>>to tell which trial will move forward first. Orozco said he plans
>>First Amendment defenses in both cases.
>>"Randall Samborn, a spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office in
>>Chicago, said the office would not comment on Orozco's statements.
>>"Copyright � 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved."
>>Jailed 'Shock' Blogger Hal Turner Claims FBI Trained Him to Be 'Agent
>>
>>
>>.
>> Email This Post
>>
>>Filed Under: National News
>>Tags: 'hate blogger', agent provocateur, antisemitism,
>>AssataShakur.org, Clay Shaw, Cynthia McKinney, FBI, FBI's payroll,
>>First Amendment defense, Georgia Green Party, Hal Turner, Jim
>>Garrison, John Judge, Katie Nelson, lynching, Matthew R. Potter,
>>Michael Orozco, radical right-wing organizations, Randall Samborn, San
>>Francisco Bay View newspaper, sitting Member of Congress, Special
>>Agent Ross Rice, Superior Court Judge David Gold, terrorist
>>organization, The Hal Turner Show, 'take up arms', 'uppity' Blacks
>>2 Responses to "Lynching of Cynthia McKinney urged by 'journalist'
>>trained and paid by FBI"
>>1. MONICA, on August 24th, 2009 at 12:39 pm Said:
>>has anyone gone ahead and urged the LYNCHING OF ALL overfed beady
>>eyedgreedy big mouthedgluttonous WHITE MEN? fbi trained[whatta sick
>>joke that is!]or not, if he gets to make f'd up comments towards an
>>African Woman than i get to make some about the ignorant orignal
>>else so if you dont like it here, GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM, i am
>>sure your people would love to hear comments like that about the
>>queen.
>>2. Chantal, on August 24th, 2009 at 2:02 pm Said:
>>An interesting side note to this is that the internet in the guise of
>>the persona *Anonymous* exposed Hal Turner as an FBI agent/informant.
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner
>>"The original allegations that Turner acted as an informant for the
>>FBI surfaced in 2008 after unidentified hackers claimed on Turner's
>>website's forums that they had read email correspondence between him
>>and an FBI agent, apparently his handler."
>>The site credited is 4chan, which was founded by a 15 year old in
>>2003.
>>"Users of 4chan and other websites "raided" Hal Turner by launching
>>DDoS attacks and prank calling his phone-in radio show during December
>>offline. This cost thousands of dollars of bandwidth bills according
>>to Turner. In response, Turner sued 4chan, 7chan, and other websites;
>>however, he lost his plea for an injunction and failed to receive
>>letters from the court." Read their wiki page at
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4chan
>>which they spew venom that could use the same kind of *exposure*. We
>>all know who they are.
>>http://www.sfbayview.com/2009/lynching-of-cynthia-mckinney-urged-by-%e2%80%98journalist%e2%80%99-trained-and-paid-by-fbi/
>
> If all of these claims are true, than that's just pure evil.
If you believe anything posted by septic you are pure idiocy.
- Gary Rosen
Sizzle Flambé
Hal Turner Was Trained by the FBI and Worked for them From 2002 to
2007 As An Agent Provocateur When He Threatened Her With Lynching.
Land of the Free, Huh?"
Of all the newsgroups in Usenet, why did
skepticl1 have to post into *these*?:
alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers,
alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers,
rec.music.hip-hop,
alt.atheism,
alt.native
mayner
news:22a7fc96-5700-4b7f...@32g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
Hmmm...
I see a pattern there but I'm not telling. ;-)
panam...@hotmail.com
Because he's got a "TRUTH!!!" that everyone must hear! He doesn't
comprehend that *he* is the crazy one..
Same reason religious morons post their shit into alt.atheism. Just
more proof that superstition is what it is, and that it doesn't matter
whether the idiocy is 2000yr old...or a lil' more recent.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
skep...@aol.com
This story is accurate. I've had lunch with Ms. McKinney twice last
year. The story was posted on PrejectCensored.org a media research
group as well as a Black Newspaper in San Francisco.
I post in NBA la-Lakers because they just won a championship and a lot
people read it.
I post in music hip-hop because there are a lot of Black people who
read it.
I post alt.native so that Native Americans and Latinos can read it.
Is your little world so shallow that you can't believe that the US
government trains and employes white supremacist hate group radio
hosts?
skep...@aol.com
> "Rob Cypher" <bals...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:gaa6951kvq54mrh9i...@4ax.com...
>
> > If all of these claims are true, than that's just pure evil.
>
> If you believe anything posted by septic you are pure idiocy.
>
> - Gary Rosen
Don’t believe Gary Rosen. He is also ardently supported the criminal
Zionist attacks and bombardment of the captured people of Gaza (who
couldn't escape because the USA and Israel had them surrounded on all
sides in Palestine) during Israel illegal 'Operation Cast Lead' in
January that bloodthirstily murdered 1,300 of our brothers and
sisters. The Zionist shot Palestinian children standing in front of
them with a white flag. The Zionists bomb the opened aired
Concentration Camp of Gaza, with jets, artillery, the Navy, tanks and
missiles including illegal weapons like White Phosphorous.
skep...@aol.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Don't edit my subject header so that they are less revealing out the
FBI bastards.
panam...@hotmail.com
> On Aug 24, 10:08 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 25, 12:48 am, Sizzle Flambé <sizzle.fla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > "Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney Says Hate Monger Talk Show Host
> > > Hal Turner Was Trained by the FBI and Worked for them From 2002 to
> > > 2007 As An Agent Provocateur When He Threatened Her With Lynching.
> > > Land of the Free, Huh?"
>
> > > Of all the newsgroups in Usenet, why did
> > > skepticl1 have to post into *these*?:
>
> > > alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers,
> > > alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers,
> > > rec.music.hip-hop,
> > > alt.atheism,
> > > alt.native
>
> > Because he's got a "TRUTH!!!" that everyone must hear! He doesn't
> > comprehend that *he* is the crazy one..
>
> > Same reason religious morons post their shit into alt.atheism. Just
> > more proof that superstition is what it is, and that it doesn't matter
> > whether the idiocy is 2000yr old...or a lil' more recent.
>
> > -Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
> > aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
>
> This story is accurate. I've had lunch with Ms. McKinney twice last
> year.
Ignoring for the moment your latest failure to post citations (a local
newspaper article with a photograph of the two of you together would
do the trick), you are "missing the forest for the trees".
Sizzle & I were discussing your moronic tendancies to post your
tinfoil hat crap into newsgroups in which it is just spam.
Keep your insipid delusions in alt.gullible.fucking.moron, OK?
And learn to determine when the adults are talking *about* you, and
not *to* you, child.
skep...@aol.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think this is a serious and important topic so I'm not going to
engage in returing your petty insults or duel with you over my
intelligence. Please do not my edit my subject headlines. I carefully
write them to give readers who might want to know, a good picture of
the article in the subject header.
Rob Cypher
I can guess what mr. rosen's interest is in these matters.
But why do these issues concern you? Is it from first-hand experience?
Uncle Vic
wrote:
> On Aug 24, 10:08�pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Aug 25, 12:48�am, Sizzle Flamb� <sizzle.fla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney Says Hate Monger Talk Show
>> > Host Hal Turner Was Trained by the FBI and Worked for them From
>> > 2002 to 2007 As An Agent Provocateur When He Threatened Her With
>> > Lynching. Land of the Free, Huh?"
>>
>> > Of all the newsgroups in Usenet, why did
>> > skepticl1 have to post into *these*?:
>>
>> > alt.sports.basketball.nba.la-lakers,
>> > alt.sports.football.pro.sf-49ers,
>> > rec.music.hip-hop,
>> > alt.atheism,
>> > alt.native
>>
>> Because he's got a "TRUTH!!!" that everyone must hear! He doesn't
>> comprehend that *he* is the crazy one..
>>
>> Same reason religious morons post their shit into alt.atheism. Just
>> more proof that superstition is what it is, and that it doesn't
>> matter whether the idiocy is 2000yr old...or a lil' more recent.
>>
>> -Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
>> aa#2015/Member, Knights of BAAWA!
>
> This story is accurate.
It's also off-topic.
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Separator of Church and Reason.
Convicted by Earthquack.
My modern calendar ends on 12/31/09. There are no days after that, so
it's obviously the date of the end of the world!
skep...@aol.com
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 23:05:16 -0700 (PDT), "skepti...@aol.com"
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I do media research. The stories I choose to post are usually ignored
by the mainstream media. These stories are important for people to
know about.
skep...@aol.com
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 24, 10:08ÿpm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
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I think this is a serious and important topic so I'm not going to
Sizzle Flambé
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This story is accurate.
>
> It's also off-topic.
In *all* the newsgroups where it was posted, actually.
As are many (most? all?) of skepticl1's posts.
And it's really annoying to see four-line-long subjects
filling the topics page. If we wanted to read the articles,
we'd *click* on them. Skepticl1 tries to force them on us.
Free Lunch
"skep...@aol.com" <skep...@aol.com> wrote in
<0d487baa-9d3b-4117...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>:
It seems unlikely that they would, particularly since there is no
evidence for it. It takes more than an unsubstantiated claim, even from
a former Member of Congress, to persuade me. Some former Members do have
a pretty good track record and I might be willing to give them a chance
to get some information before I dismiss it as not worth bothering with.
Some do not.
Free Lunch
"skep...@aol.com" <skep...@aol.com> wrote in
<86aaf654-a946-4f6a...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>:
>On Aug 24, 11:11�pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> On Aug 25, 1:53�am, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 24, 10:08�pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
I think you come across as a crazy person who has no idea what is going
on in the world.
Sizzle Flambé
> I think you come across as a crazy person
> who has no idea what is going on in the world.
I think this opinion is widely shared.
skep...@aol.com
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:53:17 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> <0d487baa-9d3b-4117-8b1e-d61a9e187...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>:
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You know Hal Turner is on trial. Hal Turner has confessed that he was
trained and working for the FBI as an agent provocateur. His program
called out for lynching named members of Congress as well as Illionis
judges, and attacked people for being Jewish or Black. How is this
claim unsubastantiated? It's presented here in a news article.
Sizzle Flambé
> You know Hal Turner is on trial. Hal Turner has confessed that he was
> trained and working for the FBI as an agent provocateur. His program
> called out for lynching named members of Congress as well as Illionis
> judges, and attacked people for being Jewish or Black. How is this
> claim unsubastantiated? It's presented here in a news article.
Do you consider Hal Turner a credible witness?
mayner
---------------------------------------------
Are you forced to click on any of his posts? Why not just ignore them as I
do? He fits the definition, to the T mind you, of a troll and you can't
refrain from reading him?
Just shit-can him and be done with it if you don't agree. Why give him pub
by doing the very thing you accuse him of doing?
mayner
news:739ae25e-0634-4567...@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 25, 8:26 am, Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> wrote:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com>
> wrote:
<snip>
I think this is a serious and important topic so I'm not going to
engage in returing your petty insults or duel with you over my
intelligence. Please do not my edit my subject headlines. I carefully
write them to give readers who might want to know, a good picture of
the article in the subject header.
----------------------------------------------------------
You think it's a serious topic. You think you know what others want to read
better than they do?
Just mark your posts "OT" and they won't have anything to hang their hats
on.
There, all done.
panam...@hotmail.com
So what? You also think humans didn't land on the moon, and that
extraterrestrial lifeforms have a commuter flight service to planet
Earth.
> so I'm not going to
> engage in returing your petty insults
I'm..well, "insulted" that you'd call my insults "petty". I made them
as serious as I could without commenting upon your sexual
proclivities, your physical appearance, or anything else that I don't
know about you first-hand. After all, the only thing I've seen you
demonstrate is your gullibility, and the related idiocy. So, that's
the only thing I've attempted to insult.
> or duel with you over my
> intelligence.
Smart move. No need to arrive at a gunfight carrying a pocket knife.
Such a thing is really more of a utility tool than a "weapon", anyway.
> Please do not my edit my subject headlines.
Fuck you with a bus, idiot. I asked, `..please do not post your tripe
in our group..', and you refused. So why should I comply with *your*
request? IMO, this is evidence that the phenomenon called "Karma", or
"Payback", or whatever the fuck superstitious morons call it *this*
week is not supernatural in nature-but a simple effect caused by
humanity's social instincts. If you're willing to let other people
alone, so am I. If you're a loud-mouthed asshole, so am I...
> I carefully
> write them to give readers who might want to know, a good picture of
> the article in the subject header.
Anyone who'd be interested in what you have to say must be as fucking
stupid as *you* are. You lot are a plague upon the face of humanity,
rejecting truth and understanding for the sake of fear and boredom. It
would be immoral for me to say that you should all be forcefully
rounded up and sent to camps for being so dumb...but it would also be
immoral for me to allow your nonsense to go unchallenged. After all..
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do
nothing."
-Edmund Burke
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
panam...@hotmail.com
But somehow not "serious and important" enough to craft a different
reply to someone in alt.atheism, eh?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/144c3e1796a4332f
I guess I should now add "Liar" to the long list of your poorer
qualities.
panam...@hotmail.com
> "Sizzle Flambé" <sizzle.fla...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:64e419e6-0436-4e8f...@o35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 25, 5:18 pm, Free Lunch told skepticl1:
>
> > I think you come across as a crazy person
> > who has no idea what is going on in the world.
>
> I think this opinion is widely shared.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
>
> Are you forced to click on any of his posts? Why not just ignore them as I
> do?
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."
-Edmund Burke
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
skep...@aol.com
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Don't you get a real 'True Believer' creepy feeling from Panamfl? His
desperate need to bully and intimidate? (Shudder) and obsess by going
back again and again to attack?
panam...@hotmail.com
the Warren Commision long enough to say:
snippy on down...
>
> Don't you get a real 'True Believer' creepy feeling from Panamfl? His
> desperate need to bully and intimidate? (Shudder) and obsess by going
> back again and again to attack?
Dude, you have an exaggerated sense of your own importance. I'm just
trying to keep you from taking a shit on my lawn.
-PF, Atl.
2015/KoBAAWA!
skep...@aol.com
And I wipe my ass with Yo Mama.
panam...@hotmail.com
I wouldn't care if you wiped it with K-Y Jelly, as long as you did it
somwhere other than my newsgroup..
-PF, Atl.
etc.
skep...@aol.com
>
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I read an article about Sybil's mother, from the movie 'Sybil' about
the horrorific child abuse case. Sybil or what ever her real name is
said she was walking past a rich neighbor's home with her mother and
her mom stopped and squatted on the lawn and took a shit in broad day
light.
Sybil was mortified. That 1970s movie used violence to uplift society,
to try and prevent further abuse and change society for the better.
Today's movies (99%) are degrading, right wing, (don't allow views
against the status quo) and use violence to deliberately harm society
psychologically. Have you notice that movies in the last ten years are
dehumanizing and you feel like shit after you see them? If you haven't
noticed then there is something wrong with you. Stay away from movie
children.
Kadaitcha Man
Flibbertigibbet, ye disputed:
> Home with her you. stay for the status quo) and prever mothere is said
> squatter. today's mothe with her about ten years against ten years are
> is said she lawn an an are is said squatted an and to uplift
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> homething with her here degrading, (don't allow violence to try an and
> you see the lawn and she last ther mothe lawn and use abuse children.
> i read day's movie 'sybil or then years are is society from mother
> mortific change status quo) artified. that moviews against ther mom
> the with here deliberately havent furthe last ten ther movie 'sybil's
> movie 'sybil's home is some with her about sybil' abuse vies (99%) and
> you feel light with her her you have you harm something an are
> degrading, right. sybil walking wrong an and she mothe home is
> society, took a shit in broad day away and you feel like stopped
> violence them? if you harm society from the was walking past ten years
> are deliberately have you feel light with her and squatter. that 1970s
> mother movies in broad day's homething with her about ther her abuse
> and you have you noticed an and shit in ther and children. i read day
> for ther, from stopped violence the movie 'sybil or what event furthe
> lawn and here dehumanizing and children. i real name was mothen years
> against ten years against them? if you noticed and you feel like
> status quo) are degrading, right wing wrong past ten the better. today
> and ther her mother mom mom mom society, to uplift something with her
> her her about the betted violence took a shit in that 19970s.
Yer wot?
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panam...@hotmail.com
> On Aug 29, 7:28 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 29, 9:29 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 28, 6:26 pm, panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 28, 7:57 pm, "skepti...@aol.com" <skepti...@aol.com> escaped
> > > > the Warren Commision long enough to say:
>
> > > > snippy on down...
>
> > > > > Don't you get a real 'True Believer' creepy feeling from Panamfl? His
> > > > > desperate need to bully and intimidate? (Shudder) and obsess by going
> > > > > back again and again to attack?
>
> > > > Dude, you have an exaggerated sense of your own importance. I'm just
> > > > trying to keep you from taking a shit on my lawn.
>
> > > > -PF, Atl.
> > > > 2015/KoBAAWA!
>
> > > And I wipe my ass with Yo Mama.
>
> > I wouldn't care if you wiped it with K-Y Jelly, as long as you did it
> > somwhere other than my newsgroup..
>
> > -PF, Atl.
> > etc.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I read an article about Sybil's mother, from the movie 'Sybil'
snip
So, your entire mass of evidence is, "..I saw it in a movie.."?
Sure would explain a lot..