Chicago
Name Min FG 3Pt FT O/Reb AS TO ST BK PF PTS
L. Deng 24 4-9 0-0 4-6 1/2 1 3 1 0 2 12
P.J. Brown 18 1-2 0-0 2-2 0/3 1 2 1 1 3 4
B. Wallace 28 2-5 0-0 1-1 6/11 1 0 0 1 2 5
B. Gordon 22 1-9 0-2 4-5 0/1 2 2 1 0 3 6
K. Hinrich 34 10-18 3-5 3-4 0/4 3 0 2 0 2 26
A. Nocioni 28 4-8 1-3 0-0 1/11 2 2 0 0 2 9
C. Duhon 16 7-8 3-3 3-3 0/2 3 1 0 0 0 20
Ty. Thomas 16 1-4 0-0 2-6 1/5 2 3 1 2 3 4
V. Khryapa 13 2-4 0-0 1-2 1/4 3 2 1 0 2 5
A. Griffin 11 1-2 0-0 0-0 0/1 2 1 0 0 0 2
M. Allen 13 2-6 0-0 0-0 1/3 1 0 1 1 1 4
T. Sefolosha 10 4-4 0-0 3-3 2/2 1 0 2 0 1 11
Totals 233 39-79 7-13 23-32 13/49 22 16 10 5 21 108
Percentages: .494 .538 .719 Team Rebounds: 11
Miami
Name Min FG 3Pt FT O/Reb AS TO ST BK PF PTS
A. Walker 35 3-9 0-6 3-6 0/6 2 3 1 2 3 9
U. Haslem 27 3-9 0-0 0-0 0/6 0 0 1 0 2 6
S. O'Neal 24 3-10 0-0 1-2 3/5 0 3 0 1 2 7
D. Wade 34 10-15 2-3 3-6 1/2 3 4 1 0 3 25
G. Payton 34 1-5 1-4 4-5 0/3 4 4 1 0 4 7
A. Mourning 15 0-2 0-0 1-2 0/2 0 2 0 0 1 1
J. Posey 22 1-1 0-0 0-0 0/1 1 1 0 0 3 2
C. Quinn 13 1-5 0-2 0-0 0/0 3 0 0 0 2 2
J. Kapono 10 1-1 0-0 1-1 0/0 0 0 1 0 0 3
D. Wright 8 1-4 0-0 0-0 0/2 0 1 0 0 1 2
W. Simien 7 1-1 0-0 0-0 0/1 0 1 0 0 1 2
R. Hite 5 0-3 0-2 0-0 0/1 0 2 1 0 2 0
Totals 234 25-65 3-17 13-22 4/29 13 21 6 3 24 66
Percentages: .385 .176 .591 Team Rebounds: 9
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
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Chicago 22 37 21 28 108 Final
Miami 16 14 21 15 66
Oh my God. I was excited for awhile, that scaled down to disbelief, and
now just awe.
Pax am become death, destroyer of worlds.
Free throw shooting, I guess, was a bit off. And Ben didn't have a good
shooting game but was all over the court. I actually think it was
something like a blocker: he kept faking them out of their shoes and
slashing to the basket, which seemed to make them afraid to go into a
zone.
Duhon's freakish shooting night was gravy: I think we were up 22 when he
hit his first basket. Thabo was awesome after Wade's welcoming to the
NBA. Tyrus was pretty outstanding too (notice "Ty. Thomas", because I
get upset every time I see "T. Thomas". He left the game for Xrays on
his nose after being fouled into the basket support; no word on what
happened yet.) But look at our boxscore, by itself. Not a lot else
stands out. I'd probably give the MVP to Hinrich, but then PJ Brown, who
I think collected the first four or five rebounds of the game and played
really, really good ball out there, was probably more valuable ot the
team. Deng also had a terrific game. Damn puzzling, because Hollinger
might have to invent a new stat (Duhon would clearly lead in "faked 3
pointers").
Far be it for me to second-guess Riley's motivational tactics but if
this was us (and we've been on the wrong end of these often enough),
Skiles would have yanked the starting unit for the rest of the half.
Doubtful it would have done any good unless they have lipo machines in
the lockerroom. It's pretty clear that counting on Walker, Shaq, Payton
and Posey to be "solid pros" and take care of themselves this off-season
didn't work out that well.
I didn't really know what I would write here tonight, win or lose. It
seemed like this was going to be an important game given all of the
"paper" accomplishments we had accumulated during the off-season. But it
still was just one game. But I'm awed. Anyone that wondered how we were
going to score: when other teams learn to stop Ben's outlet pass to lead
the break, it might just happen. When other teams don't turn the ball
over, it could happen. But I doubt it. We led the league in FG% last
season but gave up just an insane number of offensive rebounds. Note,
with satisfaction, that Miami only had four tonight. Screens were set.
Defenders helped. And they didn't commit stupid fouls.
Sam, if you take this one your ass is mine, because I'll represent
myself pro bono to sue you into oblivion, but it's the Fro Effect.
> Free throw shooting, I guess, was a bit off. And Ben didn't have a good
> shooting game but was all over the court. I actually think it was
> something like a blocker: he kept faking them out of their shoes and
> slashing to the basket, which seemed to make them afraid to go into a
> zone.
That should read "blocker in football", or better "fullback in
football". I am going to go eat a sandwich now.
"Granville Waiters' Ghost" <x@x.x> wrote in message
news:x-7B9A90.22...@news.west.earthlink.net...
On Nov 1, 12:44 am, "Ben" <b...@s.cx> wrote:
> Anyone know how often all 12 guys on a team get at least 1 point, rebound,
> and assist apiece in a game?
>
> "Granville Waiters' Ghost" <x...@x.x> wrote in messagenews:x-7B9A90.22...@news.west.earthlink.net...
>
> > In article <x-6704F3.22212231102...@news.west.earthlink.net>,
Nice summary. Well, not reallly a summary. More of a
stream-of-consciousness reaction to seeing something that
does...not...make...sense.
I want to make an analogy here to September 11th, if you'll allow me. I
remember my wife calling me at home, where I was preparing a lesiurely
breakfast, and describing what she was seeing on the television at
work. I literally could not understand what she was saying. I turned on
our set and watched the events unfold and spoke aloud what I was
seeing. Those sentences didn't make any sense either.
Reading everyone's accounts of the game and staring at the boxscore, I
still cannot construct a coherent narrative of what happened.
I watched a bit of the game -- from midway through the first quarter to
midway through the second quarter. On the West Coast, this was about
the time Halloween got started, so I had to leave to escort my youngest
around the neighborhood with her friends.Here's what I *think* I saw
but can't be sure:
* Our team has three levels and a wildcard. Level 1 is Wallace and
Brown playing solid defense, creating a barrier around the basket.
Level 2 is Gordon, Deng, and Nocioni catching it on the wings and
acting decisively -- either taking the open shot or slicing in. Level 1
is Hinrich and Duhon controlling the action from the top. Thomas is the
wildcard, a whirlwind around the basket -- Marion plus Rodman -- and I
saw no fear in his eyes. The three levels perfectly complement each
other. In particular, when the offense is unbalanced following a wild
drive by Deng or Noc or when one of our wings is beaten by his man,
Wallace and Brown smoothly adjust, and the center holds. I'm not
talking "Tyson's back there to block a few shots". That's a band-aid.
This thing is solid through-and-through. For example, I don't think I
saw Haslem or Posey within 10 feet of the basket. We can't afford to
have either of those guys hurt.
* Nocioni, Hinrich, and Deng played with a purpose. On the heels of
their stellar play this summer, the first two now know deep down that
they belong (and so do the rest of the players, coaches, and refs in
the league). Deng looks different, like a man. I saw him twice last
year and he still had an adolescent's physique, with painfully narrow
shoulders. He grew an upper body this summer. We used to speak of him
swinging between the 2 and the 3. We had it wrong. He will be able to
hold his own against some 4s in upcoming seasons.
This is gonna be a hell of a year. The Heat are not this bad, the Bulls
will lose their share of game, and a few of these losses will be bad.
But right now I wouldn't trade this roster (or coach or GM) for any
other in the league.
My thought all night watching the game was how odd it
felt to be dishing out a 40 pt. whoopin rather than bending
over my coffee table and taking one.
Nobody in the NBA is really 40 points better than anybody
else. Not even those teams that constituted the six year river
of shit we swam in were really that talent-less. You lose by
40 cause you don't give a good goddamn about it one way or
the other and thats going to be an on-going story in Miami this
year. I still think they kick it in gear sometime after O'Neal returns
from his annual 25 game absence and probably come into the
playoffs with a 4 or 5 seed but they could be an even bigger soap
opera than the Knicks this year.
td
> The three levels perfectly complement each
> other. In particular, when the offense is unbalanced following a wild
> drive by Deng or Noc or when one of our wings is beaten by his man,
> Wallace and Brown smoothly adjust, and the center holds.
This is astute. I can't really figure out what's happened except that
everyone seems to be playing with confidence. Drives are followed to the
hoop (no more cutting through the middle and dribbling your way out, or
stop around the free throw line and look desperately behind you for
someone to bail you out). There's no hesitation, no furious scurrying
around like an ant that found himself caught beneath someone's shoe.
And as Ben pointed out (btw, welcome to the group), everyone down to the
12th man was playing and playing well. I don't think they'll go 12 deep
every night -- Thabo probably wouldn't have played if it wasn't a
blow-out, though he acquitted himself extremely well -- but Khryapa was
probably #11 and saw action in the 2nd quarter. There was no drop-off.
All of the national writers were talking about Ben and Tyrus but td
knows the score: no second (or even third) unit can compete with the
guys we can throw out there. Sweetney wasn't even active, and he started
at center for us during our best stretch last season and would almost
certainly be on the bench (even if at the end of it) for any other team
in the league.
Like you say, we're not as good as the final score, they're not as bad,
but wow.