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Bill Delmore

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Jun 30, 2009, 4:28:55 PM6/30/09
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That the Pirates traded for Nook Milledge and believe it or not, Joel
Hanrahan. Not sure what we got if anything - the deal look good right now.
Maybe Manny and Bowden will join these two in Pittsburgh.


FSogol

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Jun 30, 2009, 4:40:22 PM6/30/09
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Pittsburgh's GM should be run out of town. Lastings and Hanrahan for
Nyjer Morgan and Middle reliever Sean Burnett.

Nyjer is .278 (2nd best OF on our team) with 18 SB
Burnett has appeared in 38 games and has a 3.02 ERA.


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Bill Delmore

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Jun 30, 2009, 5:48:48 PM6/30/09
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I have to express shock that is a market for Hanrahan and Milledge. To get
Morgan and Burnett is like Christmas morning!

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cat daddy

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Jun 30, 2009, 5:49:47 PM6/30/09
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"FSogol" <FSo...@nospamplease.org> wrote in message
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Pittsburgh seems all happy with this deal, just like DC. However,
according to their main blogger it's just defence and luck both ways,
something the Nats do not have.....

"Morgan has become a great defensive outfielder, but that's really all
there is to recommend him. And Burnett has posted dismal strikeout and walk
numbers for about half a decade now; that he has an ERA around three right
now owes to the Pirates' defense and plain luck. Hanrahan has struggled this
year, but he was a horse last year, he strikes batters out, and he has very
good stuff. He also has an incredible .451 batting average on balls in play
this year, which basically means you can dismiss that high ERA, because luck
and/or the Nats' defense has simply killed him."


cat daddy

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Jun 30, 2009, 5:57:06 PM6/30/09
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"Bill Delmore" <bdel...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> That the Pirates traded for Nook Milledge and believe it or not, Joel
> Hanrahan. Not sure what we got if anything - the deal look good right
> now. Maybe Manny and Bowden will join these two in Pittsburgh.

It seems to me to be merely getting rid of Lasto with the bonus of dumping
Hanrahan for PR purposes. I doubt the new pitcher will be any better, and
we've seen no-hit gloves in the OF before.
Morgan is a great clubhouse guy, though. Maybe they should just televise
the great times playing cards and such with the happy group of guys....


cat daddy

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Jun 30, 2009, 6:00:34 PM6/30/09
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And in a week, I hope it doesn't feel like New Years Day after a night of
cheap champagne...

"Bill Delmore" <bdel...@cox.net> wrote in message

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Pat Farrell

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Jun 30, 2009, 7:16:08 PM6/30/09
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cat daddy wrote:
> It seems to me to be merely getting rid of Lasto with the bonus of dumping
> Hanrahan for PR purposes.

I'll take it, no Hanrahan? wow, great. Milledge was not, and never will
be a major league OF

FSogol

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Jul 1, 2009, 8:02:41 AM7/1/09
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Bill Delmore wrote:
> I have to express shock that is a market for Hanrahan and Milledge. To get
> Morgan and Burnett is like Christmas morning!

Pittsburgh's GM is channeling Jim Bowden.

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cat daddy

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:30:23 AM7/1/09
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"Pat Farrell" <pfar...@pfarrell.com> wrote in message
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Some commenter at NJ mentioned Lasto got into it with a minor league coach.
I didn't think being sent down was going to change his attitude for the
positive, and it didn't.
I do expect Hanrahan to respond better, without the nooses that the FO
seemed to think would be a good motivator early in the season, and Manny
making the calls.


FSogol

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:37:49 AM7/1/09
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cat daddy wrote:
> "Pat Farrell" <pfar...@pfarrell.com> wrote in message
> news:Y0x2m.986$S16...@newsfe23.iad...
>> cat daddy wrote:
>>> It seems to me to be merely getting rid of Lasto with the bonus of
>>> dumping Hanrahan for PR purposes.
>> I'll take it, no Hanrahan? wow, great. Milledge was not, and never will be
>> a major league OF
>
> Some commenter at NJ mentioned Lasto got into it with a minor league coach.

Has to be Tim Foli.

> I didn't think being sent down was going to change his attitude for the
> positive, and it didn't.

Lastings said he didn't follow the Nats or listen to the coaches since
he had to look out for himself.


> I do expect Hanrahan to respond better, without the nooses that the FO
> seemed to think would be a good motivator early in the season, and Manny
> making the calls.
>

I believe Pittsburgh plans on returning him to the starter role. I wish
Hanrahan luck.

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cat daddy

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Jul 1, 2009, 9:55:10 AM7/1/09
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"FSogol" <FSo...@nospamplease.org> wrote in message
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> cat daddy wrote:
>> "Pat Farrell" <pfar...@pfarrell.com> wrote in message
>> news:Y0x2m.986$S16...@newsfe23.iad...
>>> cat daddy wrote:
>>>> It seems to me to be merely getting rid of Lasto with the bonus of
>>>> dumping Hanrahan for PR purposes.
>>> I'll take it, no Hanrahan? wow, great. Milledge was not, and never will
>>> be a major league OF
>>
>> Some commenter at NJ mentioned Lasto got into it with a minor league
>> coach.
>
> Has to be Tim Foli.

That would be a good guess. Bad cop strategy didn't work on the
hardheaded Mr. Milledge.

>> I didn't think being sent down was going to change his attitude for the
>> positive, and it didn't.
>
> Lastings said he didn't follow the Nats or listen to the coaches since he
> had to look out for himself.

You know, this is a classic case of bringing up kids too soon, without
them having to earn it in the minors and appreciating the chance.

>> I do expect Hanrahan to respond better, without the nooses that the FO
>> seemed to think would be a good motivator early in the season, and Manny
>> making the calls.
>
> I believe Pittsburgh plans on returning him to the starter role. I wish
> Hanrahan luck.

I suppose it's just try one thing, then try the other for all the
teams....


bzl...@aaool.com

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:17:14 AM7/1/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:48:48 -0400, "Bill Delmore" <bdel...@cox.net>
wrote:


Sometimes Less Is More. For the Nats to get anything at all for these
2 bums is all gravy.

Wow, that Milledge for Church and Schneider deal is looking like one
of the all-time one-sided deals.

bzl...@aaool.com

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Jul 1, 2009, 10:19:02 AM7/1/09
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On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:49:47 -0500, "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com>
wrote:

Re that .451 average: no, that means that he has been getting
absolutely crushed, all year.

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