Morris impressive
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with pinpoint accuracy. Even had 9 Ks. A complete game 2-hitter, ERA now
2.93. And finally someone made Cust look stupid at the plate.
Winn is the hottest guy though. Even his outs were hit very hard. Easily
could've been 5 for 5 today. He's as hot right now as that September that
got him the big contract. Fun to watch.
Wookie
but as usual of late, very little clutch hitting. The A's were probably
tired from all the Walks the Giants pitching staff had the past couple of
games. Nice to know that the only way the A's can sell out is if there are
a lot of a Giant fans filling the seats.
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JW
He's one of the pitchers who continues to do well despite the lack of
support from the hitters. I rag on him, but at least he's sporting
the best record on the staff.
benf8...@aol.com
Alphonzo, and Frandsen. Undefeated when they are all playing together;)
Jeff in Seattle
> Morris had the benefit of the lineup of Lewis, Ortmier,Feliz,
> Alphonzo, and Frandsen. Undefeated when they are all playing together;)
>
With all of the opinions put forth in this newsgroup, this should
scare all of they naysayers even more than any trades or other
moves management has made...
--
Jeff
The one constant through all the years has been baseball.
Terence Mann to Ray Kinsella in Field of Dreams
Dr. Wayne Simon
effect. They guy threw a 2 hitter with a fastball that hit 87 once or twice,
and a slew of breaking balls. How does it feel that as of May 20th, M.
Morris is our ACE. Morris now 5-1, and the rest of the team is 16 and 21.
Steven Rubio
<I'mAlmost...@asb.sfg> wrote:
>Morris continues to be the stopper.
No, Morris continues to be the team's 4th-best starter. Or 5th-best, I
can't decide. Trade him now while his trade value is at its peak.
Steven
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"Steven Rubio" <sru...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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But I wasn't ranking him. I said he's our stopper, which means he's been
the guy who's been stopping losing streaks. Even a #5 guy can be a stopper.
And fat chance he'll be traded right now. He's finally making Sabean look
good; Sabean's not gonna trade a guy who makes him look good. And also,
Sabean's "supposedly" on the bubble this season, so he's trying to win as
many games as he can right now, *not* build for the future. He's not gonna
get rid of the guy with the best record on the team.
JW
<benf8...@aol.com> wrote:
>Morris had the benefit of the lineup of Lewis, Ortmier,Feliz,
>Alphonzo, and Frandsen. Undefeated when they are all playing together;)
I don't suppose Bochy's noticed this? I've given up hope of them ever
sticking with the more productive lineup. Pedro seems to benefit as
well. Maybe it's Frandsen's patience at the place or his not swinging
at the first pitch? ;)
michael bakunin
> And fat chance he'll be traded right now. He's finally making Sabean
> look good; Sabean's not gonna trade a guy who makes him look good.
Touche.
That, in a nutshell, may be one of Sir Iamnotanidiot's biggest weaknesses.
C Smith
Steven Rubio <sru...@gmail.com> wrote:
The question would then become "trade him for what?" Not that the
Giants don't have many, many needs, but what realistically could be had
in return? And even if Sabean could even equal the trading acumen of
his peers (doubtful), where does that leave the rotation? Effectively
replacing Morris with Ortiz is not a happy prospect.
So I'd have to say better the devil, er Morris, that you know...
C. Smith
Brent Peterson
Morris suddenly has substantial trade value. He doesn't. Morris has
pitched well for a month and a half. That's nice, but he still has a
fairly expensive contract, he still is a former power pitcher who now
can't seem to throw a fastball over 87-mph, he still needs a generous
umpire to consistently get strikes, and, even after yesterday's
excellent start, he still has WHIP and K/IP rates which indicate that
his ERA won't stay low for very long.
If the Giants could get a good young hitter in exchange for Morris, then
of course I would be for the trade. I just think it's unlikely that the
Giants would get anything of value for the guy.
-Brent
Steven Rubio
<I'mAlmost...@asb.sfg> wrote:
>And fat chance he'll be traded right now. He's finally making Sabean look
>good; Sabean's not gonna trade a guy who makes him look good. And also,
>Sabean's "supposedly" on the bubble this season, so he's trying to win as
>many games as he can right now, *not* build for the future. He's not gonna
>get rid of the guy with the best record on the team.
And there is one of Brian's biggest problems in a nutshell: he thinks
the pitcher with the best record is the best pitcher. Matt Morris
never had a losing season with the Cardinals ... sign him up! Barry
Zito never had a losing season with the A's ... give him the biggest
contract of any pitcher in history! Call it the Rueter Factor.
Steven
Steven Rubio
<brentpe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>A lot of posters here appear to be laboring under the impression that
>Morris suddenly has substantial trade value. He doesn't.
Come on, there must be SOMEONE out there who is impressed with Morris.
Oh wait, he's in charge of the Giants.
Never mind.
Steven
Steven Rubio
wrote:
>The question would then become "trade him for what?" Not that the
>Giants don't have many, many needs, but what realistically could be had
>in return? And even if Sabean could even equal the trading acumen of
>his peers (doubtful), where does that leave the rotation? Effectively
>replacing Morris with Ortiz is not a happy prospect.
I'd say Sabean's trading acumen is at least as good as his peers, if
not better ... it's one of his positive qualities. It's balanced out,
though, by poor talent evaluation. But I'm not surprised when Sabes
pulls the wool over someone's eyes. The problem is, he likes Morris
more than other people like Morris, so the trade value isn't as high
as I'd like to believe.
As for who takes Morris' place, well, if you care about 2007, that's a
good question. But all I care about is that someone is pitching in
Morris' place when the Giants have a team with a chance to win it all,
and I don't think that will happen during the timeframe of Morris'
effectiveness. The championship pitching staff is going to be built
around Cain and Lincecum ... and maybe Zito ... Matt Morris is
unlikely to have anything to do with that staff. So I'm not concerned
if they replace him now with the corpse of Carl Hubbell.
Steven
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"michael bakunin" <bak...@bignose.org> wrote in message
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Well, I don't know, I think a lot of GMs would do the same. A player that a
GM signed himself is doing well, he's not gonna trade, unless it's the guy's
contract year, or unless some team inquires about him and makes a really
good offer that he can't refuse. If it's a player that he *inherited*,
that's a different story.
michael bakunin
The corpse of Carl Hubbell would immediately be my third-favorite starter.
Gregg Pearlman
> And there is one of Brian's biggest problems in a nutshell: he thinks
> the pitcher with the best record is the best pitcher. Matt Morris
> never had a losing season with the Cardinals ... sign him up! Barry
> Zito never had a losing season with the A's ... give him the biggest
> contract of any pitcher in history! Call it the Rueter Factor.
Hey, now! Dave LaPoint never had a losing season till he came here!
Gregg
Gregg Pearlman
>>not concerned if they replace him now with the corpse of Carl Hubbell
>
>
> The corpse of Carl Hubbell would immediately be my third-favorite starter.
Yeah, but only for sentimental reasons. The novelty would wear out as
soon as it became obvious that he couldn't throw strikes.
Gregg
C Smith
Gregg Pearlman <EEEE...@EEEEEEgp.com> wrote:
Well, when Laz Diaz was behind the plate they might be called strikes,
so the novelty would last a little longer...
C. Smith
michael bakunin
>> The corpse of Carl Hubbell would immediately be my third-favorite
> soon as it became obvious that he couldn't throw strikes.
The man had a 1.8 career BB/9. The Giants currently have a 4.0 BB/9.
Even zombified, Meal Ticket might walk the fewest on this team.
James Farrar
Well, Hennessey's on 1.5 right now...
Gregg Pearlman
> In article <xHq4i.8876$296....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Gregg Pearlman <EEEE...@EEEEEEgp.com> wrote:
>
>
>>michael bakunin wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>not concerned if they replace him now with the corpse of Carl Hubbell
>>>
>>>
>>>The corpse of Carl Hubbell would immediately be my third-favorite starter.
>>
>>Yeah, but only for sentimental reasons. The novelty would wear out as
>>soon as it became obvious that he couldn't throw strikes.
>
>
> Well, when Laz Diaz was behind the plate they might be called strikes,
> so the novelty would last a little longer...
Not unless Hubbell were somehow pitching against Giants hitters.
Gregg
Gregg Pearlman
The way he is now, you can guarantee it.
Gregg