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simy1

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Apr 13, 2003, 12:19:03 PM4/13/03
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It has become apparent that the best hitting skill of both Alfonzo and
Durham is walking. Meanwhile five Giants have an OPS in excess of
1000. In order of probability of keeping it for the year Bonds,
Aurilia, Cruz, Snow and Santiago. It seems to me that the lineup is
falling naturally in place as

Durham
Alfonzo
Bonds
Aurilia
Cruz

This is one potent 1-5.
Snow should hit before Santiago, but until further notice Cruz should
be considered a lefty - despite his hot start from the right side of
the plate, so Santiago may have to hit 6th. The last two spots in the
lineup, however, are horrible. Yes, one is the pitcher, but you are
giving away innings with those two outs in a row.

One ought to keep an eye on Torrealba. He has no hitting record in the
minors to speak of, but last year he hit well (355/397) and this year
he has started on fire. He should be used for right handed
pinch-hitting duties. Benito is right to fret about next year's
contract, this guy may very well be ready and Sabean may go for a
cheaper caddie.

Greg Lentz

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Apr 13, 2003, 1:10:56 PM4/13/03
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On 13 Apr 2003 09:19:03 -0700, si...@my-deja.com (simy1) wrote:

>It has become apparent that the best hitting skill of both Alfonzo and
>Durham is walking. Meanwhile five Giants have an OPS in excess of
>1000. In order of probability of keeping it for the year Bonds,
>Aurilia, Cruz, Snow and Santiago. It seems to me that the lineup is
>falling naturally in place as
>
>Durham
>Alfonzo
>Bonds
>Aurilia
>Cruz

I'm with you 100%. Alfonzo's really good power isn't coming back.

Greg Lentz

BenF802961

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Apr 13, 2003, 1:24:04 PM4/13/03
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>From: si...@my-deja.com (simy1

>
>One ought to keep an eye on Torrealba. He has no hitting record in the
>minors to speak of, but last year he hit well (355/397) and this year
>he has started on fire. He should be used for right handed
>pinch-hitting duties.

I doubt that will happen. Since there are only 2 catchers on the roster you
have to be careful of injuries or else Felix Rodriguez might have to put on the
gear again.

Michael Bakunin

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Apr 13, 2003, 3:13:04 PM4/13/03
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> One ought to keep an eye on Torrealba. He has no hitting record in the
> minors to speak of, but last year he hit well (355/397) and this year
> he has started on fire.
his record in the minors hardly points to stardom with the bat, but holds
a little promise. he's hit for decent average most years, except during
his initial promotions to AA. he's walked some. his power has, it's
true, been absent, but his doubles have been increasing. his defense
seems solid, and pitchers seem to love him.

my main worry is that his exceptional lack of foot speed coupled with his
tendency to hit ground balls makes him a GIDP machine. if you consider
that each GIDP erases an extra runner, his effective OBP last year was
more like .270 than .350. (ed: by that measure, Santiago's was .280)

to the extent he develops a little doubles power and stops hitting two of
three balls at infielders, I'd say he's an above-average starter in the
making. fingers crossed; I like his defense, and just love his name.

Yorvit!

Jerry

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Apr 13, 2003, 7:24:11 PM4/13/03
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Greg Lentz <gle...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<9f6j9v0270chljsoq...@4ax.com>...

This was what I wanted to see. Alfonzo is the prototype #2 hitter.
Let's hope Cruz Jr. can handle the 5 spot.

Jerry

simy1

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Apr 14, 2003, 10:21:18 AM4/14/03
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skyloa...@yahoo.com (Jerry) wrote in message news:<edcf0551.03041...@posting.google.com>...

Last night showed that Bonds/Cruz/Snow is a bad idea. They used Troy
Brohawn (ha) for the whole inning, no problem. Cruz bunted for a hit,
but he is still a leftie. They have to have Aurilia in between.

Andrew J. Bauer

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Apr 14, 2003, 10:36:38 AM4/14/03
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"simy1" <si...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Last night showed that Bonds/Cruz/Snow is a bad idea. They used Troy
> Brohawn (ha) for the whole inning, no problem. Cruz bunted for a hit,
> but he is still a leftie. They have to have Aurilia in between.

Cruz is what you would call a "switch-hitter".

-Andrew

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Tommy

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Apr 14, 2003, 11:12:36 AM4/14/03
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To Michael Bakunin re.....

>my main worry is that his exceptional
>lack of foot speed

Methinks you exaggerate with that statement, Michael. When he laid down
that two-out game-tying squeeze last night (a brilliant idea brilliantly
executed!), I was impressed by how quickly he got down the line, causing
the Dogears to completely botch the play defensively ("and that's the
Haller-Hiller-Miller hallelujah twist!" -- compliments of Danny and
Sylvia Fine Kaye). I've seen plenty of catchers that I consider to be
slower than Yorvit.

Greg Lentz

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Apr 14, 2003, 12:41:12 PM4/14/03
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On 14 Apr 2003 07:21:18 -0700, si...@my-deja.com (simy1) wrote:

>skyloa...@yahoo.com (Jerry) wrote in message news:<edcf0551.03041...@posting.google.com>...
>> Greg Lentz <gle...@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<9f6j9v0270chljsoq...@4ax.com>...
>> > On 13 Apr 2003 09:19:03 -0700, si...@my-deja.com (simy1) wrote:
>> >
>> > >It has become apparent that the best hitting skill of both Alfonzo and
>> > >Durham is walking. Meanwhile five Giants have an OPS in excess of
>> > >1000. In order of probability of keeping it for the year Bonds,
>> > >Aurilia, Cruz, Snow and Santiago. It seems to me that the lineup is
>> > >falling naturally in place as
>> > >
>> > >Durham
>> > >Alfonzo
>> > >Bonds
>> > >Aurilia
>> > >Cruz
>> >
>> > I'm with you 100%. Alfonzo's really good power isn't coming back.
>> >
>> > Greg Lentz
>>
>> This was what I wanted to see. Alfonzo is the prototype #2 hitter.
>> Let's hope Cruz Jr. can handle the 5 spot.
>

>Last night showed that Bonds/Cruz/Snow is a bad idea. They used Troy
>Brohawn (ha) for the whole inning, no problem. Cruz bunted for a hit,
>but he is still a leftie. They have to have Aurilia in between.

Yep. Even though Cruz is a switch hitter, you need Aurilia (or some other
right-handed batter) in between Bonds and Cruz to get the team to burn
through more of their bullpen (not that the Dodgers needed much help last
night as they used *eight* pitchers).

Greg Lentz

simy1

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Apr 14, 2003, 12:51:49 PM4/14/03
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"Andrew J. Bauer" <abau...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<WHzma.1606$%57.96...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...

> "simy1" <si...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:7218de3b.03041...@posting.google.com...
>
> > Last night showed that Bonds/Cruz/Snow is a bad idea. They used Troy
> > Brohawn (ha) for the whole inning, no problem. Cruz bunted for a hit,
> > but he is still a leftie. They have to have Aurilia in between.
>
> Cruz is what you would call a "switch-hitter".
>

The same way Snow was a switch hitter. He still has splits. To force
him to bat from the right side is an advantage for the other team. He
is still a leftie.

Michael Bakunin

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Apr 14, 2003, 1:09:13 PM4/14/03
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I was shocked by the bunt, too, as was the Dodgers defense. there was
nobody covering first. however, if there had been, there might have been
a play even with that perfectly-placed bunt.

Yorvit is a lot of things, but fast is not one of them. slow-footed
batters need to hit line drives and avoid DPs.

Jamal Bernhard

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Apr 14, 2003, 10:33:50 PM4/14/03
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simy1 wrote:

> Durham
> Alfonzo
> Bonds
> Aurilia
> Cruz

This is the exact lineup I was hoping for when the season began...

[robert c]

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Apr 15, 2003, 4:57:23 PM4/15/03
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"simy1" <si...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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Yes, he does have splits, and Cruz has a higher 3 year batting average from
the right side, with a bit more power from the left (and a lot more AB's).
Not sure how having him bat from the right becomes an "advantage for the
other team." Looks to me like he is about the same from both sides.

Of course, if he is about the same from both sides, then there is no reason
to take out the lefty specialist brought in for Bonds.

Rob


Greg Lentz

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Apr 15, 2003, 6:55:05 PM4/15/03
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:57:23 -0700, "[robert c]" <bulli...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Exactly. You want to punish the other team for bringing in a specialist
for pitching to Bonds. Even if the difference isn't great, the typical
manager will burn through another pitcher playing Tony Ball. And that is
a good thing.

Greg Lentz

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