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Jabberwocky

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:50:50 GMT, aw...@cts.net (andrew waer) wrote:

> I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has
>been horrendous and pathetic. To drop every ounce of loyalty to your
>team and humiliatingly shout SOSA with every other guy who put his
>Cubs hat on for the night is disgusting.
> Can you imagine the degrading feeling to have 80% of the
>"sincere" season ticket holders rise to an ovation of a Padres loss??
>Fuck this whole home run race thing! It's a travesty to think that a
>stupid mark in the record book could precede one's desire to see his
>or her team with the best record in the NL.
> I know you might be saying, "It was only one loss...it's worth
>the loss to see history in the making." That's bullshit, we all know
>that you'd do the same thing every night for the next two weeks if the
>Cubs were to stay. I hope a bird shits on your Cubs hat this one
>night that you dusted it off to root for the enemy.
> If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, just listen to
>the pain and frustration in the voices of the Padres during their
>post-game interviews. Think about what you're doing out there in the
>stadium, WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THEIR PLAY!!
>andrew waer

AMEN! GO PADS!


Scot Mente

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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andrew waer (aw...@cts.net) wrote:
: I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has
: been horrendous and pathetic.

This is right on! I don't see many games, so when I stayed up past
midnight here to watch my favorite team - I was severely disappointed
to also have to watch my least favorite fans: Padre fans. I'm
ashamed to be of the same ilk...

Last spring my girlfriend moved to northern virginia, now my hope is
that the padres will move there as well. They certainly deserve better
than what I witnessed last night (ODL, Rancho Cucamanga deserves better).

pathetic.


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Baba Booey

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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I would cheer for Sosa, but cheer even louder when he got struck out...
But then again I'm a BASEBALL fan, not exclusively a Padres fan with a
closed mind...

And if you opened your eyes you'd see half the fans that were there were
probably there for the first time all year, or the first time in their
lives...
It wasn't a Padres crowd, or a Cubs crowd, but a crowd waiting to see
history, plain and simple...

If you don't get it still, take your head out of your ass...

This is something that only one other person has done, ever, and he did
it two days ago fer crissake...

So put down your crying towel and grow up...

Christ, are there any BASEBALL fans in here, all I've been hearing the
past couple of days is pissing and moaning about people cheering for
Sosa...As Bill Maher says, "Get over yourself"...

JoDiego

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Jabberwocky jabbers on .....

<<Christ, are there any BASEBALL fans in here, all I've been hearing the past
couple of days is pissing and moaning about people cheering for Sosa...As Bill
Maher says, "Get over yourself"...>>

Total bullshit. Last nights display by the fans and the Padres organization
was totally out of line. From fans chanting, "Sammy, Sammy, Sammy", extolling
an opposing player to hit a grand slam in the 8th inning of a tie game, to the
deafening roar as it sailed out of the park, to the ovation, the curtain call,
the congratulatory message on the scoreboard to the fireworks (YES FIREWORKS),
was embarassing for the players and those of us who would really like to see
the Padres win a few games between now and the end of the season. Baseball has
become a three ring circus for people (I won't even call them fans) wanting
more than a baseball game to entertain them and last night was a perfect
example of where a lot of San Diegans are. Give me entertainment, give me
hype, give me a free tee shirt and give me a chance to be seen on ESPN and I
will be happy. Win a game....its no big deal. And the stadium will be packed
with these same people in the playoffs, not because it is the most exciting
time of year, but because it will be a cool place to be in October.

Scot Mente

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Baba Booey (Baba...@hoofaa.com) wrote:
: I would cheer for Sosa, but cheer even louder when he got struck out...
^^ ^^^^^^^^^
Yes, you and ... who else? Our point is that very few Padre fans
were there cheering for the padres. In my opinion, SD really doesn't
deserve a team. That's my stance - it's only an opinion, you should
quit reading this now if you can't understand that much.


: But then again I'm a BASEBALL fan, not exclusively a Padres fan with a
: closed mind...

Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed the homerun chase very much, but
there are 14 other ballparks in the NL - and Sosa is welcome to hit
all he wants in those parks - but not in ours. Again, is that such
a wrong viewpoint to have? I love the pads, I don't want to see
*any* player smack them around (even if it was boeringer).

: And if you opened your eyes you'd see half the fans that were there were


: probably there for the first time all year, or the first time in their
: lives...

Yes, I would add that to support my stance that SD shouldn't have
a major league team - the crowds are clearly AAA (with all apologies
to the true fans - as few as we are).

: It wasn't a Padres crowd, or a Cubs crowd, but a crowd waiting to see
: history, plain and simple...

: If you don't get it still, take your head out of your ass...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: This is something that only one other person has done, ever, and he did


: it two days ago fer crissake...

: So put down your crying towel and grow up...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Cute. Should we get briang in here for you. You can have a great
time tossing childish posts back and forth.

: Christ, are there any BASEBALL fans in here, all I've been hearing the


: past couple of days is pissing and moaning about people cheering for
: Sosa...As Bill Maher says, "Get over yourself"...

..hmmm...the "Senators"... the "Diplomats"...no to dumb sounding. Oh,
when your done done telling me what a lousy baseball fan I am - could
you help me find a good governmental sounding name for the new NVa team.

thanks

Senator

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Well as a Diehard cubs fan, let me tell you that its been pretty much the
same for the past couple weeks wherever we play. Sure I'd hate it if the
situations were reversed. But your fans arent really to blame, its the
offense. Or lack there of. Your offense is almost as bad as our bullpen.
Almost. Our bullpen blows, in the last two games you would have won if you
could have gotten into it.

JoDiego wrote in message <19980917100501...@ng151.aol.com>...
>
>Jabberwocky jabbers on .....


><<Christ, are there any BASEBALL fans in here, all I've been hearing the
past
>couple of days is pissing and moaning about people cheering for Sosa...As
Bill
>Maher says, "Get over yourself"...>>
>

Jabberwocky

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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On 17 Sep 1998 14:05:01 GMT, jod...@aol.com (JoDiego) wrote:

>
>Jabberwocky jabbers on .....
><<Christ, are there any BASEBALL fans in here, all I've been hearing the past
>couple of days is pissing and moaning about people cheering for Sosa...As Bill
>Maher says, "Get over yourself"...>>

I must note that I am not the author of this. One must speak to Baba
Booey when responding to this statement.

Jabberwocky

midtowng

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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andrew waer wrote in message <3600ca27...@nntp.cts.com>...

> I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has
>been horrendous and pathetic. To drop every ounce of loyalty to your
>team and humiliatingly shout SOSA with every other guy who put his
>Cubs hat on for the night is disgusting.
> Can you imagine the degrading feeling to have 80% of the
>"sincere" season ticket holders rise to an ovation of a Padres loss??


I agree. The name of the game is winning, not history.
Cheering Sosa when Tony lines out to him? What were
they thinking? Fireworks after Sosa gets the game-winning
homer? What were they thinking?
The Padre players are battling with everthing they have,
and to have the fans turn on them (yes, turn on them) has
got to be such an increadible let down.
San Diego doesn't deserve a winner.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.

Baba Booey

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Scot Mente, wiping the paplum from his chin, says:
>>Cute. Should we get briang in here for you. You can have a great
time tossing childish posts back and forth. >>

If the above post isn't childish, I don't know what is...

By the way, fuck you very much...Childish enough for you?

bigjames

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Well....I was at the game last night and I was not cheering when Sammy hit
that tater...However, I must say that there are some things that surpass the
win/loss record. Our pitching was shit last night. Plain and simple and we
got beat. I was glad I was able to be there and experience history. Am I
sorry it came at the expense of my team?...Hell yeah....But when you bring
in Ball4ringer to face SOSA with the bases loaded....I mean geeze....It was
not a big shock.

I think the padres fans showed a lot of class last night, I hope that if a
padres was trying to break a record on the road, the fans would be half as
gracious as the padres fans were last night.

BigJames


andrew waer wrote in message <3600ca27...@nntp.cts.com>...
> I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has
>been horrendous and pathetic. To drop every ounce of loyalty to your
>team and humiliatingly shout SOSA with every other guy who put his
>Cubs hat on for the night is disgusting.
> Can you imagine the degrading feeling to have 80% of the
>"sincere" season ticket holders rise to an ovation of a Padres loss??

Sean

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Just wondering, would you guys say the same if McGwire was in San Diego?

Sean D.


Baba Booey

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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bigjames says proudly:

>>I think the padres fans showed a lot of class last night, I hope that if a padres was trying to break a record on the road, the fans would be half as gracious as the padres fans were last night.>>

Right on brother...I was just saying the same thing the other day about
the class shown here by the fans...

JoDiego

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Sean D asks.......

<<Just wondering, would you guys say the same if McGwire was in San Diego?>>

You bet Sean. If you have a bit of time, you can look it up on this list. I
wondered out loud why nobody was brushing this guy off the plate. I took some
crap from the baseball "purists" in this group who seem to have no affiliation
with any team when it comes to being "a baseball fan first".


Rob

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Scot Mente <me...@chem.psu.edu> wrote in article
<6tr3i5$1s...@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>...
> andrew waer (aw...@cts.net) wrote:
> : I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has
> : been horrendous and pathetic.
>

> This is right on! I don't see many games, so when I stayed up past
> midnight here to watch my favorite team - I was severely disappointed
> to also have to watch my least favorite fans: Padre fans. I'm
> ashamed to be of the same ilk...
>
> Last spring my girlfriend moved to northern virginia, now my hope is
> that the padres will move there as well. They certainly deserve better
> than what I witnessed last night (ODL, Rancho Cucamanga deserves better).

>
> pathetic.

I think the attack on Padre fans in general is pretty off-base. It was
60000 of them on Tony Gwynn shirt night that proved that the 10th man
really does exist. There probably were a lot of fans there the last few
days who were there for the first time. There's nothing wrong with that.
That is how this home run race has singlehandedly rejuvenated the game. I
went on Monday, and paid respect to Sammy in his first at bat. I stood the
other three in order to see (every one else stood up), happily watching as
Hitch and Miceli handed him the silver sombrero. Even my baseball
IQ-lacking friend wanted to see a Sosa homer, but she added a few more Pad
homers, in addition, would be best. You can't have 60000 loyal fanatics in
the stands every game. It's pretty naive to think so.
Rob

william sims

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Great question. I think these guys would react the same way if McGwire was in
San Diego. By the way, didn't he hit a home run into to 3rd deck of seats in
left field earlier this season?

William Sims
Arizona State University
Tempe, Az. 85287-0101

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Sean wrote:

> Just wondering, would you guys say the same if McGwire was in San Diego?
>

> Sean D.
>
>
>
>
>


Baba Booey

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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william simms asks:

>>By the way, didn't he hit a home run into to 3rd deck of seats in
left field earlier this season?>>

No one has EVER hit it into the 3rd deck of the Murph...

Big Mac and Jose Canseco hit a couple into the press level last year
during inter-league games when we played the fuckin' A's though...

And that's a loooonnnngggg way up there too!

--
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- Frank Zappa

JoDiego

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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BabBooley states....

<<No one has EVER hit it into the 3rd deck of the Murph...>>

Although it was during a homerun hitting contest before the game, Dave Kingman
hit one into the press level, which is the third deck. I don't know if it is
possible to hit one into the upper deck. Speaking of which, I saw Greg Vaughn
hit a foul ball almost out of the stadium almost directly behind him. The ball
hit this little building that is right next to the new auxilary scoreboard in
the upper deck off third base.


Peter F. DeMos

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Bong Booey wrote, amongst other things:

> Big Mac and Jose Canseco hit a couple into the press level last year

> during inter-league games when we played the fu*kin' A's though...

Must you use that type of language *all* the time? You know what they say,
right bongbooey? Those who swear incessantly are usually ignorant. I don't
*think* you are ignorant, can you chill a little, or do I need to just
k-file you?

Thanks,

peterd
--The original peterd. Accept no substitutes.--
http://www.peterd.com

Baba Booey

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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>>...the press level, which is the third deck.>>

No, the press level is the 2nd deck, unless you're counting plaza as a
deck, which of course it isn't...

Baba Booey

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Sep 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/18/98
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Peter F. DeMos appeals to Baba:
>>...can you chill a little...>>

I guess I could try to tone it down some...

Just don't ask me to give up my lighter ;-)

Vinay Kumar

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Baba Booey (Baba...@hoofaa.com) wrote:

: >>...the press level, which is the third deck.>>


:
: No, the press level is the 2nd deck, unless you're counting plaza as a
: deck, which of course it isn't...

I've never heard the levels referred to in that way before. Second
deck (when speaking of home runs) has always meant Loge. AFAIK,
nobody's hit one any higher, so beyond that is really irrelevant.
Although somebody (Baba Booey, I think) wrote that McGwire and Canseco
both did last year; can anybody else corroborate?

BTW, Baba Booey, can you please watch your attributions? You cut out
the attribution on the line you quoted. It's not a big deal here, but
carelessness with attributions often can lead to misunderstandings and
arguments.

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Baba Booey

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Vinay Kumar says:
>>BTW, Baba Booey, can you please watch your attributions? >>

I always do, but made a boo boo yesterday...

And McGwire and Canseco hit a couple in the press level last year...
It is irrelevant about 1st deck or 2nd deck, all we know is it takes a
monster shot to get it there...

JoDiego

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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BabaBooey says.....

<<And McGwire and Canseco hit a couple in the press level last year... It is
irrelevant about 1st deck or 2nd deck, all we know is it takes a
monster shot to get it there...>>

Wait a minute. Are you saying they did it during the game? No one has ever
hit a ball in the Press Level during a regular game at the stadium and as I
mentioned earlier, Dave Kingman is the only one I know of who did it at all...a
HR contest before a game (which I witnessed). I went to the A's games last
year and watched batting practice and I don't recall seeing either one of them
hit one there.

Baba Booey

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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JoDiego seems dismayed and asks:

>>Are you saying they did it during the game?>>

No, they did it during BP...
Sorry, I should have clarified my statement...
And it wasn't on the same day either...
Canseco did it on the first day the A's were in town and McGwire did it
the second day...

K2

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Baba Booey wrote:

> I would cheer for Sosa, but cheer even louder when he got struck out...

> But then again I'm a BASEBALL fan, not exclusively a Padres fan with a
> closed mind...

When Sosa was announced, I responded with respectuful polite applause.
I stood, because everyone in front of me was standing, and dammit... I
wanted to see!
I was cheering at the top of my lungs... "Strike 'em out (Hitch, Kev,
pitcher du jour)!"
When he hit the GS, I watched in awe... and gave him his props with more
respectful applause... but when the ball came off his bat, the first words
out of my mouth were "Oh s**t!" While I do appreciate being there to see "a
piece of history" (although #63 will be a mere footnote) my instinctive
response was as a Padre fan.

K2

K2

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Sep 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/19/98
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Vinay Kumar wrote:

> Baba Booey (Baba...@hoofaa.com) wrote:
>
> : >>...the press level, which is the third deck.>>
> :
> : No, the press level is the 2nd deck, unless you're counting plaza as a
> : deck, which of course it isn't...
>
> I've never heard the levels referred to in that way before. Second
> deck (when speaking of home runs) has always meant Loge. AFAIK,
> nobody's hit one any higher, so beyond that is really irrelevant.
> Although somebody (Baba Booey, I think) wrote that McGwire and Canseco
> both did last year; can anybody else corroborate?

"Field Level" is self-explanatory.
"Plaza" is the seats you walk down to from ground level
"Loge" and "Club" (depending on which section) is the second deck
"Press Level" is the small third deck just above Loge
"View" is the euphemism for the nosebleed seats in the upper deck.

Simple, no? :o)

K2

Jim

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Sep 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/17/98
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Agreed.

Jim

On Thu, 17 Sep 1998 08:50:50 GMT, aw...@cts.net (andrew waer) wrote:

> I'm sorry, but the display I've seen the past three nights has

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