Best Farm System in Baseball?
Robert E Marsili
Could the Pirates now have the best farm system in baseball? The work
that Bonifay has done in the last three months should dispell all those
beliefs that Bonifay was trying to ruin this club. It is quite obvious
that the prior ownership did more harm to this team than free agency ever
did. Let's hope that Bonifay and McClatchy stay the course and continue
to stockpile talent.
Erik Simpson
Robert E Marsili (rems...@pitt.edu) wrote:
: Could the Pirates now have the best farm system in baseball? The work
I've been thinking about this question. If they don't have the best
system, I want to learn about the team that does, because I've missed it.
BTW, it occurred to me that, as much as I will miss Leyland, this skillful
and necessary purging couldn't have happened with him around. He left at
the right time, and I hope the fish get him Belle and Smoltz so he can
make a run.
Erik
David L. Hanrahan
Robert E Marsili <rems...@pitt.edu> wrote in article
<56iooj$q...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>...
> Could the Pirates now have the best farm system in baseball? The work
> that Bonifay has done in the last three months should dispell all those
> beliefs that Bonifay was trying to ruin this club. It is quite obvious
> that the prior ownership did more harm to this team than free agency ever
> did. Let's hope that Bonifay and McClatchy stay the course and continue
> to stockpile talent.
>
weren't for one thing: at the rate the major league Bucs are unloading
veteran talent, all of these acquisitions will be on the big league roster!
Prepare for a 100-loss season and a lot of growing pains. I'm not saying
the Bucs shouldn't be doing what they're doing; I just hope the fans will
recognize the effort and will support the team through the transition.
Dennis R Smith
In article <56iooj$q...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
Robert E Marsili <rems...@pitt.edu> wrote:
>Could the Pirates now have the best farm system in baseball? The work
>that Bonifay has done in the last three months should dispell all those
>beliefs that Bonifay was trying to ruin this club. It is quite obvious
>that the prior ownership did more harm to this team than free agency ever
>did. Let's hope that Bonifay and McClatchy stay the course and continue
>to stockpile talent.
>
>
organizations. I have no idea what criteria they used or how subjective it
is, but Pirates were rated 14th. It's stated that they would have rated
higher if catcher Jason Kendall and outfielder Jermaine Allensworth had
put up their numbers in minors rather than as rookies in Pittsburgh. So
the recent influx should move them near the top by SN's methods. Of
course, that ranking next year could be relatively low again if several of
our prospects end up on the major league roster next year.
Cleveland, Atlanta, Los Angeles were 1, 2, 3.
I fully agree with your comment on prior ownership harming the team. I
said before that Bonifay should be judged only from mid-96 on, after
McClatchy take over and then began to provide leadership and direction.
Bonifay has gotten off to a good start by stockpiling talent. Let's hope
he can continue through the next stages.
Dennis
doman...@aol.com
I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYONE CAN SAY THE PIRATES HAVE THE BEST FARM SYSTEM IN
BASEBALL AT THIS POINT. I HOPE IT'S TRUE. I PRAY IT WORKS OUT ON THE MAJOR
LEAGUE LEVEL. THE THING THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME ABOUT THESE TRADES,
HOWEVER, IS THAT LOISELLE AND SCHMIDT MIGHT BE THE ONLY TWO GUYS IN
PITTSBURGH IN 1997 OR 1998. THEY WENT WAY DOWN IN THE FARM SYSTEMS, AND A
LOT OF THESE GUYS WEREN'T EVEN PLAYING WELL IN SINGLE A. I THINK THE TEAM
SHOULD'VE GOTTEN SOMEONE THEY COULD BRING UP THE MAJORS AND SHOW THE FANS
THAT THEY ARE REBUILDING. THIS IS KIND OF SCARY. SORRY MY CAP BUTTON IS
STUCK.
tin...@aol.com
I don't think that Pittsburgh got the best farm team in baseball. I
worked for the Indians last summer and they had guys in insructional ball
and the Appalachian league that could have been playing hi-A or AA ball.
I just don't see our low prospects as being this good
Tintin
Robert E Marsili
In article <56it6d$b...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
>BTW, it occurred to me that, as much as I will miss Leyland, this skillful
>and necessary purging couldn't have happened with him around. He left at
>the right time, and I hope the fish get him Belle and Smoltz so he can
>make a run.
Hold on their just one minute buster. Let's not send old Albert off to
Fishland just yet. I'm one of the few that still believes that Albert
just might stay in Cleveland. Being a huge Indian fan I still have some
glimmer of hope that Belle stays.
Robert E Marsili
In article <56m3bg$9...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
>I fully agree with your comment on prior ownership harming the team. I
>said before that Bonifay should be judged only from mid-96 on, after
>McClatchy take over and then began to provide leadership and direction.
I truly believe that the public-private ownership group was the most
devastating era of Pirate baseball next to the drug trials. It was quite
obvious that those previous owners cared little about the viability of
this team. I like what McClatchy is doing and hope that he continues down
this path ( a new Collective Bargaining Agreement wouldn't hurt either).
Erik Simpson
You are a man of great faith. I commend you. They've given no indication
that they'll match the Marlins' offer, though, and Belle's agent said that
they won't take a lower offer, so it looks _really_ bad to me for the
Indians.
Erik
Robert E Marsili
In article <56oi5l$6...@netnews.upenn.edu>,
>You are a man of great faith. I commend you. They've given no indication
>that they'll match the Marlins' offer, though, and Belle's agent said that
>they won't take a lower offer, so it looks _really_ bad to me for the
>Indians.
>
>Erik
Personally I hoping that the Tribe sucks it up and offers Belle $9 million
and say to him "Albert here you will win. In Miami you'll sweat alot."
Hopefully the idea of staying with a winner will tip the scales (Remember
Neil O'Donnel?).
Getting back to the Pirates I read in Fridays Post Gazzette that one of
the PTBNL is probably the SS Nunez. Supposedly the kid is a super
prospect with blazing speed. I thought that the quote I read said
something about him being a pure lead off hitter.
On the King front, I expect a deal to be made sometime before Dec 1 (if at
all). I like the trade rumors of Giles and Graves for King. The Indians
NG is going Ape sh*& over it. Giles is the real deal who could put up big
numbers this year (something that the Bucs will desparetly need to put
butts in the seats).
Erik Simpson
: >You are a man of great faith. I commend you. They've given no indication
: >that they'll match the Marlins' offer, though, and Belle's agent said that
: >they won't take a lower offer, so it looks _really_ bad to me for the
: >Indians.
: >
: >Erik
: Personally I hoping that the Tribe sucks it up and offers Belle $9 million
: and say to him "Albert here you will win. In Miami you'll sweat alot."
: Hopefully the idea of staying with a winner will tip the scales (Remember
: Neil O'Donnel?).
It hit the wires today that the Indians have withdrawn their offer to
Belle.
: Getting back to the Pirates I read in Fridays Post Gazzette that one of
: the PTBNL is probably the SS Nunez. Supposedly the kid is a super
: prospect with blazing speed. I thought that the quote I read said
: something about him being a pure lead off hitter.
He appears to be that in the sportsriter sense--he's really fast. He
doesn't get on base much, though. The first baseman that was mentioned
(Whitlock?) looks good. There's some good stuff about all three on
rec.sport.baseball.
: On the King front, I expect a deal to be made sometime before Dec 1 (if at
: all). I like the trade rumors of Giles and Graves for King. The Indians
: NG is going Ape sh*& over it. Giles is the real deal who could put up big
: numbers this year (something that the Bucs will desparetly need to put
: butts in the seats).
I like that deal, too, but I don't see how they could trade Giles without
Belle. Am I forgetting someone? They let Burnitz go for Seitzer, right?
Erik