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weheardthenews

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Sep 27, 2009, 12:52:28 PM9/27/09
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The Rose Award goes to Denard Span of the Minnesota Twins, who went
four-for-five with six RBI and scored one run in a 11-6 win over the
Kansas City Royals.

The six RBIs are Denard's career-high and the Twins won for the 11th
time in 12 games. Joe Mauer raised his league-leading batting average
to .371.

It's a shame that Mauer won't finish the season with a .400 average.
That would be such a cause for celebration for the poor folks who have
to live in Minnesota, which hasn't been the same since the Mary Tyler
Moore show was cancelled.

brianj

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Sep 27, 2009, 6:37:39 PM9/27/09
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Are you claiming that Span has been guilty of something that would
result in his finding himself banned for life from baseball? Because
that is what Pete Rose is most (in)famous for.

brianj

powrwrap

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Sep 28, 2009, 12:38:30 PM9/28/09
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On Sep 27, 11:52 am, weheardthenews <weheardthen...@aol.com> wrote:
> The Rose Award goes to Denard Span of the Minnesota Twins, who went
> four-for-five with six RBI and scored one run in a 11-6 win over the
> Kansas City Royals.

Although he ran everywhere, most notably to first base after drawing a
walk, speed was not Rose's greatest asset.

Rose is remembered for diving headfirst on stolen-base attempts. He
stole 198 bases (never more than 20 in a season) but was caught
stealing 149 times. During his best offensive season (1969), Rose was
nailed on 10 of 17 steal attempts.

"Racking up steals really wasn't his talent," says former Los Angeles
Dodgers catcher Mike Scioscia. "He was a terrific baserunner. He went
from first to third, always took the secondary lead, always ran
through bases. He did all the things that make for a good baserunner.
As far as the straight steal, that wasn't his forte."

> That would be such a cause for celebration for the poor folks who have
> to live in Minnesota

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beutcl1ecWY

Corey

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Sep 28, 2009, 2:53:23 PM9/28/09
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More importantly, he must've forgotten that the Twins won World Series
in 1987 and 1991.

weheardthenews

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Sep 28, 2009, 5:39:12 PM9/28/09
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What Pete Rose is most famous for depends on what you're most
interested in. For example, someone who's really interested in
baseball and likes home runs could tell you all about Barry Bonds.
Someone who's into narcotics would be interested in the size of needle
Barry used for the steroids.

Old timers who follow baseball might be able to tell you all about Ty
Cobb. People who study alcoholics might be able to tell you how many
shots Ty downed before he would start to stagger out of the saloon.

The Rose Committee? We like baseball. Old school, new school,
whatever. And we like the 4,256 hit record which will never be broken.

weheardthenews

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Sep 28, 2009, 5:45:04 PM9/28/09
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On Sep 28, 9:38�am, powrwrap <powrw...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Sep 27, 11:52�am, weheardthenews <weheardthen...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The Rose Award goes to Denard Span of the Minnesota Twins, who went
> > four-for-five with six RBI and scored one run in a 11-6 win over the
> > Kansas City Royals.
>
> Although he ran everywhere, most notably to first base after drawing a
> walk, speed was not Rose's greatest asset.
>
> Rose is remembered for diving headfirst on stolen-base attempts. He
> stole 198 bases (never more than 20 in a season) but was caught
> stealing 149 times. During his best offensive season (1969), Rose was
> nailed on 10 of 17 steal attempts.

Catchers in those days did a better job of throwing runners out.
Bench, Fisk, Sundberg, Munson, etc. Todays catchers would be
challenged in throwing out a quadriplegic.

>
> "Racking up steals really wasn't his talent," says former Los Angeles
> Dodgers catcher Mike Scioscia. "He was a terrific baserunner. He went
> from first to third, always took the secondary lead, always ran
> through bases. He did all the things that make for a good baserunner.
> As far as the straight steal, that wasn't his forte."

Kind of reminds us of the likes of Willie Wilson and Devon White.
Nobody was faster from the box to first than Willie, but his speed
dwindled from first to third. Devon was average from the box to
first, but he was unmatched from first to third.

powrwrap

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Sep 28, 2009, 8:58:39 PM9/28/09
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> On Sep 28, 4:39 pm, weheardthenews <weheardthen...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> What Pete Rose is most famous for depends on what you're most
> interested in.  


Oh, like the over/under on the Reds/Cubs game?


brianj

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Sep 29, 2009, 9:34:34 AM9/29/09
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On Sep 28, 4:39 pm, weheardthenews <weheardthen...@aol.com> wrote:
> whatever.  And we like the 4,256 hit record which will never be broken.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, I would agree that you seem interested (maybe obsessed, in an
idiot-savant sort of way) in total hits, as opposed to batting
average, OBP, slugging percentage, stolen bases, or any other
meaningful offensive statistic, which seems kind of odd, but hey, to
each his own. I mean it's either that or you are obsessed with
prohibited MLB betting and lifetime banishments from baseball. I
don't know which would be stranger.

brianj

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