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Scott Smith

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Oct 6, 2009, 9:51:05 PM10/6/09
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>>On Aug 27, 6:15�am, "Likely Story" <ha...@neener.com> wrote:
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>> The Twinkies would have to go 23 and 12 in their remaining 35 games to win
>> 86.
>>
>> That ain't happening.

How about going 17 of 21 for the last games of the season to end up with 87?

LOL!


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Shad

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Oct 6, 2009, 10:57:09 PM10/6/09
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I feel sorry for Likely_Suicide's goat tonight :( I hope he doesn't beat
her too badly.

SkippyPB

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Oct 7, 2009, 11:35:17 AM10/7/09
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As disheartening as this loss was, and a infamous mark in history as
well, the Tigers still overachieved this season.

In 2008, they finished 74-88. Without adding a huge bat in the off
season and going with defensive and pitching changes, they finished
this season 86-77 and lead the Central most of the season. No one
picked the Tigers to do this well.

Meanwhile the Twins did worse than last season. In 2008 they finished
88-75 and didn't make the playoffs. They dumped payroll most of the
off season and into this season but did add some decent pitching.
Still they finished this season 87-76 and backed into the playoffs
where they'll undoubtedly (once again) be destroyed in the first
round.

So all in all, the Tigers improved, the Twins did not and more than
likely the Tigers will get better next season.

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Scott Smith

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Oct 7, 2009, 12:09:18 PM10/7/09
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:35:17 -0400, SkippyPB
<swie...@Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 20:51:05 -0500, Scott Smith
><scott...@iphouse.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>>>On Aug 27, 6:15�am, "Likely Story" <ha...@neener.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Twinkies would have to go 23 and 12 in their remaining 35 games to win
>>>> 86.
>>>>
>>>> That ain't happening.
>>
>>How about going 17 of 21 for the last games of the season to end up with 87?
>>

>As disheartening as this loss was, and a infamous mark in history as


>well, the Tigers still overachieved this season.
>
>In 2008, they finished 74-88. Without adding a huge bat in the off
>season and going with defensive and pitching changes, they finished
>this season 86-77 and lead the Central most of the season. No one
>picked the Tigers to do this well.

I agree that the Tigers played better than I expected them to for most
of the season, but they also choked down the stretch of the second
half, as I also thought they would do (since they traditionally do
terrible in the second half, especially under Leyland).

>Meanwhile the Twins did worse than last season. In 2008 they finished
>88-75 and didn't make the playoffs. They dumped payroll most of the
>off season and into this season but did add some decent pitching.
>Still they finished this season 87-76 and backed into the playoffs
>where they'll undoubtedly (once again) be destroyed in the first
>round.

The Twins ended up one game worse than last season and it came
down to a tie-breaker to decide the division again. That's hardly
doing much worse than last season.

As far as being "destroyed in the first round" by this seasons
Yankees, well that would have probably happened to Detroit
as well. No ALC team would fare well against the Yankees
this year, IMO.

>So all in all, the Tigers improved, the Twins did not and more than
>likely the Tigers will get better next season.

The Tigers improved, but really there was only one way for
the Tigers to go after last seasons abysmal performance. The
Twins stayed about the same....and won the tie-breaker this
season.

Both the Tigers and the Twins need to bolster up their pitching
staffs in the off-season. The Twins need starters, the Tigers need
bullpen help.

The Twins started the season horribly, especially on the road. But
they made adjustments, added key players (especially to the bullpen)
and came on strong in the second half, as they traditionally do.

I think if the Twins add some starting pitching help in the off-season
they will be a better team next season. Plus the new ballpark and
huge home fan support will help as well.

In any case, I'm happy as a Twins fan with the division championship
and a chance in the playoffs (slim as it may be) this season.

powrwrap

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Oct 8, 2009, 3:16:38 PM10/8/09
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> On Oct 7, 10:35 am, SkippyPB <swieg...@Nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:
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> So all in all, the Tigers improved, the Twins did not and more than
> likely the Tigers will get better next season.  

The Tigers got way better this year. Between the two teams, who will
get better than the other next year?

I say the Twins. They will have Kevin Slowey back for the entire
season. They will get Pat Neshek back for the bullpen. They will
likely jettison Redmond and have Morales for the whole season.
Hopefully they can get Pavano back.

The Tigers? Verlander and Porcello are a potent 1-2 punch. Jackson is
pretty good. But then what? Half of the pitching staff are former
relievers now in the pen. Is Gallaraga going to start? Bonderman,
Willis, Robertson are lost causes, IMO.

Who is Detroit going to add to make them better? Cause I see a lot of
guys that are in decline and getting old. Ordonez, Guillen, Huff,
Thames, Laird...

The Twins are relatively youthful and are improving. Kubel, Cuddyer,
and Mauer have had monster seasons. Morneau will be another 30 HR, 100
RBI guy. Even Delmon Young is getting better, he's 23 years old.

Another thing is the Tigers are "managed" by Leyland. I can't believe
the terrible decisions he's made this year. Shockingly bad.

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