Manny Money
Andrew Swift
Andrew Swift
Jim
is a newsgroup.
Morad must not be ignorant of salary trends in baseball. He must have seen
how salaries have skyrocketted in recent years.
Why would an agent propose an $18 million a year salary for 8 years, seeing
this trend, if the agent didn't have a good idea this trend would reverse,
and this is the best time to snag the big money for the long term?
"Andrew Swift" <andre...@home.com> wrote in message
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Skin...@annoying.isp
>I have a hunch. Feel free to rip it to shreds, but it's an idea, and this
>is a newsgroup.
>
>Morad must not be ignorant of salary trends in baseball. He must have seen
>how salaries have skyrocketted in recent years.
>
>Why would an agent propose an $18 million a year salary for 8 years, seeing
>this trend, if the agent didn't have a good idea this trend would reverse,
>and this is the best time to snag the big money for the long term?
>
The new number is $20M.
http://www.espn.go.com/mlb/news/2000/1102/853634.html
CLEVELAND -- Manny Ramirez wants to be the first $200 million man in
sports.
The free agent outfielder asked the Cleveland Indians for that amount
as part of a 10-year contract that would make him the highest-paid
player in baseball history, according to a baseball management source,
speaking on the condition he not be identified.
Ramirez's agent, Jeff Moorad, faxed the proposal Thursday to the
Indians but wouldn't comment on specifics of the deal.
The source, speaking Friday, said the proposal totaled $200 million --
the highest total package in sports history -- but contained money
deferred without interest that would lower the present-day value to
$175 million to $185 million.
leadoff
On Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:14:54 GMT, John Arthur
<John....@marconimed.com> wrote:
>Rumor has it that Morad's offer to the Indians is 18 mill/year for 8
>years.
>
Ben Flieger
<Skin...@annoying.ISP> wrote in message
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> The new number is $20M.
And the old new number was 18. 8/144 was the ESPN report earlier in the
day.
> CLEVELAND -- Manny Ramirez wants to be the first $200 million man in
> sports.
>
> The free agent outfielder asked the Cleveland Indians for that amount
> as part of a 10-year contract that would make him the highest-paid
> player in baseball history, according to a baseball management source,
> speaking on the condition he not be identified.
Yeah. This is where I start to get a little leery.
I enjoy ignorant speculation _more_ than the next guy, but until I see a
number with a _name_ it's premature to draw any conclusions.
Dolan has a press conference Monday.
Ben Flieger
"Jim" <Sni...@mindless.com> wrote in message
news:t06ftl5...@corp.supernews.com...
> I have a hunch. Feel free to rip it to shreds, but it's an idea, and
this
> is a newsgroup.
>
> Morad must not be ignorant of salary trends in baseball. He must have
seen
> how salaries have skyrocketted in recent years.
>
> Why would an agent propose an $18 million a year salary for 8 years,
seeing
> this trend, if the agent didn't have a good idea this trend would
reverse,
> and this is the best time to snag the big money for the long term?
Well, players have generally tried to get long term contracts. Scott
Boras, who clearly knows what he's doing, got Brown a 7 year deal.
There's a security factor in there. Sierra, Tartabull, Baerga. Those
kinds of things happen. And you never know when you could get hit with a
serious injury.
I highly doubt salaries will drop any time soon. I suspect they'll
flatten out as revenue does the same, but I don't see any reason that
revenue will decline(a lockout would result in less revenue, but that's
because the owners choose to have a year of 0 revenue, not because of a
trend reversal).
Ben Flieger
"Joe Shlabotnik" <new...@sucks.net> wrote in message
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> When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
increased
> ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
Well, yes. But lots of people are... baseball fans. Shocking, isn't it?
They'll pay money to watch baseball games(gasp). Tens of millions of
people are willing to do that.
When are these people going to tell baseball teams to go "fvck"
themselves(Travis, what's up with the self censorship?)? Attendance is
at near record levels.
If people do eventually tell teams to fvck themselves, ticket prices
would fall. That's how business works. High demand=high price. Low
demand=low price. Welcome to Economics 0.000101.
> Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to
lay
> their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners.
You are the one that buys the owner's bullshit. Just who do you think
benefits from a salary cap? Players? No. Fans? No. Owners? Ding! We have
a winner.
Bud Selig, an owner, is the guy you get most of your "information" from.
Astoundingly, you are even less persuasive than the Budmeister, which is
quite a feat.
And I'll lay my money wherever I damn well please, thank you very much.
Gotta have
> that $6.00
> beer.
Yea, that's why people go to baseball games. For the beer. Your insight
astounds me once again.
I know this won't mean much coming from me, but I find it insulting that
you would tell me or anyone else how to spend our money. If I get
enjoyment out of lighting my paycheck on fire and watching it burn, who
are you to tell me that I shouldn't do that?
Travis, any chance of you beginning to follow netiquette in the near
future? Top quoting is considered rude, as is complete reposting. Here's
a proper version of your post:
""Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:8tvk1m$omd$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> I highly doubt salaries will drop any time soon. I suspect they'll
> flatten out as revenue does the same, but I don't see any reason that
> revenue will decline(a lockout would result in less revenue, but
that's
> because the owners choose to have a year of 0 revenue, not because of
a
> trend reversal).
When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
increased
ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to lay
their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners. Gotta
have
that $6.00
beer.
Joe"
There, not that difficult. You weren't replying to Jim's post at all, so
that's all snipped. And there was a bunch of stuff in my post that you
didn't address, so snip that.
John Arthur
Joe Shlabotnik
ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to lay
their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners. Gotta have
that $6.00
beer.
Joe
"Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:8tvk1m$omd$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "Jim" <Sni...@mindless.com> wrote in message
> news:t06ftl5...@corp.supernews.com...
> > I have a hunch. Feel free to rip it to shreds, but it's an idea, and
> this
> > is a newsgroup.
> >
> > Morad must not be ignorant of salary trends in baseball. He must have
> seen
> > how salaries have skyrocketted in recent years.
> >
> > Why would an agent propose an $18 million a year salary for 8 years,
> seeing
> > this trend, if the agent didn't have a good idea this trend would
> reverse,
> > and this is the best time to snag the big money for the long term?
>
> Well, players have generally tried to get long term contracts. Scott
> Boras, who clearly knows what he's doing, got Brown a 7 year deal.
>
> There's a security factor in there. Sierra, Tartabull, Baerga. Those
> kinds of things happen. And you never know when you could get hit with a
> serious injury.
>
DoublEE
"Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:8tvvjb$sea$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "Joe Shlabotnik" <new...@sucks.net> wrote in message
> news:8QIM5.15124$rl.12...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
> increased
> > ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
>
> Well, yes. But lots of people are... baseball fans. Shocking, isn't it?
> They'll pay money to watch baseball games(gasp). Tens of millions of
> people are willing to do that.
>
> When are these people going to tell baseball teams to go "fvck"
> themselves(Travis, what's up with the self censorship?)? Attendance is
> at near record levels.
>
> If people do eventually tell teams to fvck themselves, ticket prices
> would fall. That's how business works. High demand=high price. Low
> demand=low price. Welcome to Economics 0.000101.
>
> > Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to
> lay
> > their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners.
>
> You are the one that buys the owner's bullshit. Just who do you think
> benefits from a salary cap? Players? No. Fans? No. Owners? Ding! We have
> a winner.
> Bud Selig, an owner, is the guy you get most of your "information" from.
> Astoundingly, you are even less persuasive than the Budmeister, which is
> quite a feat.
>
> And I'll lay my money wherever I damn well please, thank you very much.
>
> Gotta have
> > that $6.00
> > beer.
>
> Yea, that's why people go to baseball games. For the beer. Your insight
> astounds me once again.
>
> I know this won't mean much coming from me, but I find it insulting that
> you would tell me or anyone else how to spend our money. If I get
> enjoyment out of lighting my paycheck on fire and watching it burn, who
> are you to tell me that I shouldn't do that?
>
>
> Travis, any chance of you beginning to follow netiquette in the near
> future? Top quoting is considered rude, as is complete reposting. Here's
> a proper version of your post:
>
> ""Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:8tvk1m$omd$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > I highly doubt salaries will drop any time soon. I suspect they'll
> > flatten out as revenue does the same, but I don't see any reason that
> > revenue will decline(a lockout would result in less revenue, but
> that's
> > because the owners choose to have a year of 0 revenue, not because of
> a
> > trend reversal).
>
> When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
> increased
> ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
>
> Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to lay
> their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners. Gotta
> have
> that $6.00
> beer.
>
> Joe"
>
Joe Shlabotnik
POST TO NEWSGROUPS. MAYBE I SHOULD START TYPING IN ALL CAPS TO "MAKE YOUR
EYES HURT." GIVE ME A FVCKING BREAK.
JOE
WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS SHIT BELOW:
"Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
news:8tvvjb$sea$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>
> "Joe Shlabotnik" <new...@sucks.net> wrote in message
> news:8QIM5.15124$rl.12...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> > When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
> increased
> > ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
>
> Well, yes. But lots of people are... baseball fans. Shocking, isn't it?
> They'll pay money to watch baseball games(gasp). Tens of millions of
> people are willing to do that.
>
> When are these people going to tell baseball teams to go "fvck"
> themselves(Travis, what's up with the self censorship?)? Attendance is
> at near record levels.
>
> If people do eventually tell teams to fvck themselves, ticket prices
> would fall. That's how business works. High demand=high price. Low
> demand=low price. Welcome to Economics 0.000101.
>
> > Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to
> lay
> > their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners.
>
> You are the one that buys the owner's bullshit. Just who do you think
> benefits from a salary cap? Players? No. Fans? No. Owners? Ding! We have
> a winner.
> Bud Selig, an owner, is the guy you get most of your "information" from.
> Astoundingly, you are even less persuasive than the Budmeister, which is
> quite a feat.
>
> And I'll lay my money wherever I damn well please, thank you very much.
>
> Gotta have
> > that $6.00
> > beer.
>
> Yea, that's why people go to baseball games. For the beer. Your insight
> astounds me once again.
>
> I know this won't mean much coming from me, but I find it insulting that
> you would tell me or anyone else how to spend our money. If I get
> enjoyment out of lighting my paycheck on fire and watching it burn, who
> are you to tell me that I shouldn't do that?
>
>
> Travis, any chance of you beginning to follow netiquette in the near
> future? Top quoting is considered rude, as is complete reposting. Here's
> a proper version of your post:
>
> ""Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
> news:8tvk1m$omd$1...@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > I highly doubt salaries will drop any time soon. I suspect they'll
> > flatten out as revenue does the same, but I don't see any reason that
> > revenue will decline(a lockout would result in less revenue, but
> that's
> > because the owners choose to have a year of 0 revenue, not because of
> a
> > trend reversal).
>
> When people tell baseball teams to go fvck themselves and their
> increased
> ticket prices, revenue should start falling rather quickly.
>
> Of course, like Ben, most people are buffoons, and will continue to lay
> their money at the feet of the "gods" that are baseball owners. Gotta
> have
> that $6.00
> beer.
>
> Joe"
>
Ben Flieger
> SORRY I WASN'T CONFORMING TO SOME PANSY LIBERAL'S
You don't know anything about my political views.
Nobody who does thinks I'm liberal.
VIEWS OF HOW WE SHOULD ALL
> POST TO NEWSGROUPS.
It's not just me. There are rules to this thing.
MAYBE I SHOULD START TYPING IN ALL CAPS TO "MAKE YOUR
> EYES HURT."
Yeah, that'll endear you even more.
Jim
"Ben Flieger" <flie...@osu.edu> wrote in message
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