Here's your first-round pick!
Vigilante
Hope all Cubs fans are happy...
A wrongheaded righty
By Dan Shaughnessy, Globe Columnist, 06/02/99
The baseball draft is today. Shame on Boston if it uses any of its
picks to select Wichita State righthander Ben Christensen. As far as I'm
concerned, Christensen is the Christian Peter of this year's baseball
draft.
It's doubtful you've heard of Christensen. He's touted as a high-round
pick even though he hasn't pitched since April 23,
when he intentionally threw a ball at the head of Evansville's Anthony
Molina before Molina had even come to bat.
Here's the scene: Christensen, a junior with a 21-1 career record, was
warming up for his start when he thought he detected
Molina trying to time his pitches from a spot about halfway between the
visitor's dugout and the on-deck circle. In accordance
with lessons taught by his coach, Gene Stephenson, and pitching coach,
Brent Kemnitz, Christensen believed this perceived
infraction of baseball etiquette gave him the right to throw at Molina.
Christensen told the Wichita Eagle, ''If the on-deck hitter is standing
too close to home plate, you brush him back.''
Molina was standing about 30 feet to the side of home plate, not looking
at the pitcher, when Christensen drilled him in the
head. The ball struck Molina in his left eye, fracturing the socket in
three places and opening a 1-inch gash that took 23
stitches to close.
Christensen was immediately thrown out of the game, while Molina was
rushed to Wichita's Wesley Medical Center. A week
later, the Missouri Valley Conference suspended the pitcher and the
pitching coach for the rest of the season. Christensen
hired an attorney to contest the suspension, but the penalty was upheld
by the NCAA.
Molina, a junior catcher with no pro potential, will need laser surgery
on a left eye in which his vision was reduced from
20/10 to 20/160. As a result of the ''purpose pitch,'' he is legally
blind in that eye. He filed assault charges against
Christensen, but they were dismissed by nitwit local officials, making me
wonder exactly what constitutes assault in Wichita.
Molina is said to be contemplating a civil suit.
After the episode, Stephenson said, ''Nobody intentionally hit someone
else. Hey, we're the ones who got hurt out of the
deal.''
That statement alone should have cost Stephenson his job.
Proving that there is a hardball god, Wichita State was eliminated from
the NCAA tournament last Sunday, losing twice to
Oklahoma State.
Stephenson must have been really steamed after his team was knocked out.
Just think what they might have been able to do if
Christensen hadn't been suspended for that ''minor'' infraction. (Two
messages left at the sports information office at Wichita
State went unreturned.)
Meanwhile, Christensen waits to be drafted today. This is wrong. The
young man should be banned from organized baseball
until he shows a little contrition. This episode is simply too heinous,
and there has to be some admission of wrongdoing and
expression of remorse.
I don't want to hear about baseball's ''unwritten rules,'' or the code of
the West. It's one thing to brush back a hitter or send a
message to a batter who is obviously stealing signs from the catcher. At
least the guy in the batter's box knows it might be
coming. But throwing a baseball at the head of someone who isn't even
looking - some 30 feet to the side of home plate - is a
criminal, cowardly act.
Christensen was 9-1 this year with a 2.40 ERA and 77 strikeouts in 71 1/3
innings. Opponents hit just .182 against him and
he is rated among the top 25 college players in the draft.
Red Sox general manager Dan Duquette said, ''He's supposed to be a pretty
accomplished pitcher. In a situation like this, we
always look into the particulars and find out the background and see what
type of impact it will have on his career.''
Would the Sox be deterred by Christensen's hardball crime?
''I'd rather not say how our team would approach an individual
decision,'' said Duquette. ''It's not in our interest to reveal
that.''
Fine. Don't play your hand, Dan. Just don't pick Christensen. Let some
other organization pay a whopping bonus to this
hardball criminal.
Dan Shaughnessy is a Globe columnist.
This story ran on page F01 of the Boston Globe on 06/02/99.
© Copyright 1999 Globe Newspaper Company.
Al Yellon
>From the Boston Globe today.
>
>Hope all Cubs fans are happy...
>
Speaking only for myself, I'm very upset about this pick. See my posts in
the Cubs' 1st round pick thread.
AY
--
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Charter Member, DBFC
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Anthony Michael
#1. He's young. Kids make mistakes. Hell, many of us adults make
mistakes. He deserves a second chance, but he must suffer SOME kind of
consequence for this wrong. What that might be or who would enforce it is
the question.
#2. I first tried to compare this to the vigor for the game that Ty Cobb
had sliding with sharpened spikes, or Pete Rose ending Ray Fosse's career
with that play at home during the All-Star game. Then it occured to me,
those we're GAME situations. This was NOT a game situation. He needs
councelling until he understands the difference between all out
competitivness in a game and coexisting with the rest of us.
Being a prospect, probably since he was little, made him the center of his
universe his entire life. He needs councelling from someone who can get him
to empathise with the rights and needs of everyone else around him.
JTiet
getting Wil Cordero. Maybe they will now. It couldn't have been because Wil is
not really that good, could it?
JTiet-President and founder of the Delaware, Ohio DBFC (Jumping on the
Bandwagon)
Are you crying!?! There's no crying in Baseball!
Weber4u
If he had waited for the guy to get up to bat, hit him then, and had the same
result.......it would still be just as stupid, and just as wrong.
Only one difference.......It would probably be forgotten by now.
DLegler
<aye...@REMOVETHISinteraccess.com> writes:
>>From the Boston Globe today.
>>
>>Hope all Cubs fans are happy...
>>
>
>
>Speaking only for myself, I'm very upset about this pick. See my posts in
>the Cubs' 1st round pick thread.
>
I myself am upset that this article found its way to our group. It's filled
with the shotty journalism I should have come to expect by now, but haven't.
Al Yellon
>universe his entire life. He needs councelling from someone who can get
him
>to empathise with the rights and needs of everyone else around him.
>
>
This is one of the biggest problems with baseball players today, and
athletes in general. They think they're better than others because they're
athletes.
J.D. Drew is just another example of this, on a different level. With him it
was greed.
The G &/or C
the "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]
In article <19990602225556...@ng-fy1.aol.com>, Weber4u
Oh please....
You can't possibly be serious.
Tell me how, on this green earth, throwing at the head of a guy
standing in the batters box, while he's looking right at you (who's
*expecting* the ball to be throw very close to him) compares AT ALL to
throwing at the side of a head of a guy who isn't even LOOKING at you,
let alone expecting a ball to be thrown at him?
Not judging the morality of drafting or anything like that, I will say
that I too believe it was a cowardly, cowardly act.
Even if the guy was looking at him.
I also see no reason why criminal charges were not pressed.
G
FMR RANGER
JTiet wrote in message <19990602224510...@ng-fl1.aol.com>...
>With this pick, it makes you wonder why the Cubs were so eager to pass on
>getting Wil Cordero. Maybe they will now. It couldn't have been because Wil
is
>not really that good, could it?
>
>JTiet-President and founder of the Delaware, Ohio DBFC (Jumping on the
>Bandwagon)
>
Wrong!
First mistake is that you are in Delaware, which in itself is not a bad
thing but we really need people in major States like Rhode Island.
Second mistake. Do you have you laminated DBFC membership card? No you don't
because I never sent you one. (See fee schedule)
Third. Have you visited the DBFC website? No again because we have not
published it.
So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
FMR
President, DBFC
Kevin R. Schneider
>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>
>FMR
>President, DBFC
Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
*************************************************************************
Wisdom and advice free of charge from: Kevin R. Schneider
Procrastination: Hard work often pays off over time, but laziness
always pays off now.
http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~kschneid
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Tfxgirl
>
>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
>
>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>>
>>FMR
>>President, DBFC
>
>Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
***********************************************************
President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
"They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
***********************************************************
FMR RANGER
Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990603115821...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
FMR
President, DBFC
Kevin R. Schneider
>Thank you Madam President.
>
>FMR
>
>President, DBFC
Thanks, that helps a lot, FMR! Ugh.
The G &/or C
Kevin R. Schneider <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
>
> >So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
Uh-oh!!!
Not the DREADED nonny nonny boo boo!
Be afraid.... be very afraid...
> >FMR
> >President, DBFC
Not to mention chief suck-up, too....
> Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
Heh... I was waiting for these posts to start popping up...
=;-p
G (chief insurrectionist of the DBFC)
James Weisberg
>>
>>FMR
>>
>>President, DBFC
>
>Thanks, that helps a lot, FMR! Ugh.
Are you the DBFC? ...F*ck off! We're the BDFC.
I thought we were the DBFC.
What has the DBFC ever done for us?
oh nevermind.
--
World's Greatest Living Poster
Laura
FMR RANGER wrote:
> Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990603115821...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
> >>Kevin R. Schneider" <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> asks:
> >
> >>
> >>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
> >>
> >>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
> >>>
> >>>FMR
> >>>President, DBFC
> >>
> >>Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
> >
> >Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
> >
> >
> >
> >***********************************************************
> >President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
> >"They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
> >***********************************************************
> >
> Thank you Madam President.
>
> FMR
>
> President, DBFC
Might I say, that I *am* still waiting to learn what *my* official title is.
=:-)
Laura D.///remember, I'm sensitive.
~~~~~~Charter Member, DBFC~~~~~~
JTiet
It's replies like this that made me quit my membership (Before the ink was dry)
and form the Anti-DBFC League. :)
By the way, Thats the City of Delaware in the State of Ohio. Confusing, I know.
Home of Ohio Wesleyan, where Branch Rickey attended. I also share the same
birthday as Mr. Rickey. Although he no longer celebrates his. (Ramble off)
Kyle
wrote:
>
>Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990603115821...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>>>Kevin R. Schneider" <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> asks:
>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
>>>
>>>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>>>>
>>>>FMR
>>>>President, DBFC
>>>
>>>Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
>>
>>Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
>>
>>
>>
>>***********************************************************
>>President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
>>"They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
>>***********************************************************
>>
>Thank you Madam President.
>
>FMR
>
>President, DBFC
>
It's basically certain people's excuse for posting unintelligble,
off-topic incredibly long threads
>
Daniel M. Lichtenstein
FMR RANGER wrote:
> So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
I thought that the DBFC agreed that it was nanny nanny buu buu.
DmL
Charter member - DBFC
Kevin R. Schneider
On 3 Jun 1999, Kyle wrote:
>It's basically certain people's excuse for posting unintelligble,
>off-topic incredibly long threads
I get the feeling that you aren't a member of the DBFC either...
FMR RANGER
Kyle wrote in message <7j70qd$7rt$1...@208.134.200.111>...
>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:12:47 -0500, "FMR RANGER" <fmra...@wwa.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990603115821...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>>>>Kevin R. Schneider" <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> asks:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>>>>>
>>>>>President, DBFC
>>>>
>>>>Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
>>>
>>>Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>***********************************************************
>>>President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
>>>"They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
>>>***********************************************************
>>>
>>Thank you Madam President.
>>
>>FMR
>>
>>President, DBFC
>>
>
>off-topic incredibly long threads
>
>
It's the rest of you that have made a minor deal out of it. We use it as a
signature, nothing else. Should you choose to respond to it, okay, if not,
let it go. It's fun, it's Baseball and it's honoring a good and true Cubbie.
After all that has been said, I'm sorry if it is getting to you.
FMR
International President, DBFC
FMR RANGER
Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote in message
<375716E1...@mindspring.com>...
>
>
>FMR RANGER wrote:
>
>> So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>
>
>DmL
>Charter member - DBFC
>
FMR
International President, DBFC
FMR RANGER
JTiet wrote in message <19990603180414...@ng-xa1.aol.com>...
>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>
dry)
>and form the Anti-DBFC League. :)
>
>By the way, Thats the City of Delaware in the State of Ohio. Confusing, I
know.
>Home of Ohio Wesleyan, where Branch Rickey attended. I also share the same
>birthday as Mr. Rickey. Although he no longer celebrates his. (Ramble off)
>
Anna will now respond.
FMR
International President, DBFC
Daniel M. Lichtenstein
FMR RANGER wrote:
> Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote in message
> <375716E1...@mindspring.com>...
> >
> >
> >FMR RANGER wrote:
> >
> >> So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
> >
> >I thought that the DBFC agreed that it was nanny nanny buu buu.
> >
> >DmL
> >Charter member - DBFC
> >
> No, that was Al.
Yes, but it was put to a vote, and, uh.... now I see.
James Weisberg
>Kyle wrote in message <7j70qd$7rt$1...@208.134.200.111>...
>>off-topic incredibly long threads
>>
>>
>Kyle, sweetie. All we DBFC Members have said is that we are a part of DBFC.
*Somebody's* been sipping at that DBFC cult-juice! That word is
off-limits to you buddy, I don't care who you claim to be the leader
of! I'm not even going to type it. You know what I mean.
Aztec Princess
> >Kevin R. Schneider" <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> asks:
>
> >
> >On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
> >
> >>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
> >>
> >>FMR
> >>President, DBFC
> >
> >Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
>
> Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
>
> ***********************************************************
> President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
> "They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
> ***********************************************************
Rule #1
If you have to ask, you won't get in...
Rule #2
You must prove yourself worthy...but we won't tell you how....
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Member of the DBFC
They're a small yet spunky group! ~ Steve Stone
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JTiet
>
Suddenly I'm feeling warm and fuzzy! Maybe I'll change the name of my group to
the Semi-Anti DBFC League. Sorta like having a fan club for Mark Cresse. (!?!)
Kyle
wrote:
>
>Kyle wrote in message <7j70qd$7rt$1...@208.134.200.111>...
>>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:12:47 -0500, "FMR RANGER" <fmra...@wwa.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990603115821...@ng-cg1.aol.com>...
>>>>>Kevin R. Schneider" <ksch...@students.uiuc.edu> asks:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, FMR RANGER wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FMR
>>>>>>President, DBFC
>>>>>
>>>>>Can I join as a member? You have to tell me what it is, though...
>>>>
>>>>Oh..sorry. If you don't know what it is..you can't join
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>***********************************************************
>>>>President, South Florida Chapter of the DBFC.
>>>>"They're a small, yet spunky group." - Steve Stone
>>>>***********************************************************
>>>>
>>>Thank you Madam President.
>>>
>>>FMR
>>>
>>>President, DBFC
>>>
>>
>>It's basically certain people's excuse for posting unintelligble,
>>off-topic incredibly long threads
>>
>>
>Kyle, sweetie. All we DBFC Members have said is that we are a part of DBFC.
>It's the rest of you that have made a minor deal out of it. We use it as a
>signature, nothing else. Should you choose to respond to it, okay, if not,
>let it go. It's fun, it's Baseball and it's honoring a good and true Cubbie.
>After all that has been said, I'm sorry if it is getting to you.
>
Oh, it doesn't bother me. I was just pointing out that people
shouldn't take it too seriously, wondering why they aren't in it.
>FMR
>
>International President, DBFC
>
>
Al Yellon
>>
>>> So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
>>
>>
>>DmL
>>Charter member - DBFC
>>
>No, that was Al.
>
>
>International President, DBFC
>
>
"Buu buu"??? That is not only wrong, it looks REALLY weird.
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AY-- Charter Member, DBFC
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Daniel M. Lichtenstein
Al Yellon wrote:
> FMR RANGER wrote in message <7j7bv8$30j$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
> >
> >Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote in message
> ><375716E1...@mindspring.com>...
> >>
> >>
> >>FMR RANGER wrote:
> >>
> >>> So there and nonny nonny boo boo!
> >>
> >>I thought that the DBFC agreed that it was nanny nanny buu buu.
> >>
> >>DmL
> >>Charter member - DBFC
> >>
> >No, that was Al.
> >
> >FMR
> >
> >International President, DBFC
> >
> >
>
> "Buu buu"??? That is not only wrong, it looks REALLY weird.
I know that it looks wierd, but phonetically, it makes the correct
sound.
Laura
Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote:
> Al Yellon wrote:
>
> > FMR RANGER wrote in message <7j7bv8$30j$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
> > >
> > >Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote in message
> > ><375716E1...@mindspring.com>...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>FMR RANGER wrote:
> > >>
> <snip.snippez.snippons.>
> >
> > "Buu buu"??? That is not only wrong, it looks REALLY weird.
>
> I know that it looks wierd, but phonetically, it makes the correct
> sound.
>
> DmL
> Charter member - DBFC
Being phonetically correct are we now?
But, then wouldn't we have to spell Cubs "Kubz". And
Chicago...."Shikago."?
Shikago Kubz.
Hmmm.
Laura D.
~~~~~CM,DBFC~~~~~
"To make a ball club a champion, the effort has to start with the bat
boy
and move right up to the owner."
Brooks Robinson
Daniel M. Lichtenstein
Laura wrote:
> Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote:
>
> > Al Yellon wrote:
> >
> > > FMR RANGER wrote in message <7j7bv8$30j$1...@hirame.wwa.com>...
> > > >
> > > >Daniel M. Lichtenstein wrote in message
> > > ><375716E1...@mindspring.com>...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>FMR RANGER wrote:
> > > >>
> > <snip.snippez.snippons.>
> > >
> > > "Buu buu"??? That is not only wrong, it looks REALLY weird.
> >
> > I know that it looks wierd, but phonetically, it makes the correct
> > sound.
> >
> > DmL
> > Charter member - DBFC
>
> Being phonetically correct are we now?
>
> But, then wouldn't we have to spell Cubs "Kubz". And
> Chicago...."Shikago."?
>
> Shikago Kubz.
>
> Hmmm.
>
> Laura D.
Well then, how would we spell nanny nanny b? b?
Al Yellon
How about bou bou? That would satisy everyone.
--
FMR RANGER
Al Yellon wrote in message <92853063...@news.remarQ.com>...
FMR
International President, DBFC
Al Yellon
Okay then, what's YOUR choice for the b word?
JanS1030
>Okay then, what's YOUR choice for the b word?
Pardonnez moi, but shouldn't that be WHO'S your choice for the b word?
Jan
<President-Elect, Rogers Park Chapter of the DBFC>
Al Yellon
Well, if you put it *that* way, mon amie.... ;)
Tfxgirl
But...but...it does state right above that you are International..Oui?
MrJones
FMR RANGER wrote:
>
> Kyle, sweetie. All we DBFC Members have said is that we are a part of DBFC.
> It's the rest of you that have made a minor deal out of it. We use it as a
> signature, nothing else. Should you choose to respond to it, okay, if not,
> let it go. It's fun, it's Baseball and it's honoring a good and true Cubbie.
> International President, DBFC
Damon Berryhill? Don Bryant?
FMR RANGER
Tfxgirl wrote in message <19990604224951...@ng-bh1.aol.com>...
No! International Si! But no french.
FMR
International President, DBFC