Which Players?
Alfred
K.C. for Mark Teahan.
sdrahcir
> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
just a rumor.
mercutio
<white...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen can play RF LF
1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
second coming of Jose Valetin at SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
should allow him to flourish)
With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
Jim
sdrahcir
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >On Nov 5, 1:06Êpm, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>
> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
> >just a rumor.
>
> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen can play RF LF
> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
> second coming of Jose Valetin at SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
> should allow him to flourish)
> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>
> Jim
Is Teahen good defensively at 3rd? One thing we know this team needs
lots of help on defense.
Alfred
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >On Nov 5, 1:06Êpm, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>
> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
> >just a rumor.
>
> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen can play RF LF
> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
> second coming of Jose Valetin at SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
> should allow him to flourish)
> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>
> Jim
I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
right that it will be a decent transaction.
Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
Alfred
>
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I thought he was good at 3rd when I'd seen him play against the WS.
He's steady and seemed to have good hands.
I won't miss Josh, but I did like Chris. I especially liked Getz'
speed and he played well for us, overall. When I see somebody play
hard, I always appreciate that regardless of whether or not they're
"big time" performers. It's a good trade as I see it, although the
team takes a bit of a hit on speed.
Tom Benton
<behyndb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Nov 5, 5:45�pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>
>> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 1:06�pm, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
>> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>>
>> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
>> >just a rumor.
>>
>> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen �can play RF LF
>> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
>> second coming of �Jose Valetin �at SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
>> should allow him to flourish)
>> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
>> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
>> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>>
>> Jim
>
>
>I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
>right that it will be a decent transaction.
>Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
this past season was pretty mediocre. For an outfielder, it was
pretty weak. Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
about guys who can play one really well?
sdrahcir
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:53:50 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>
>
>
> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 5, 5:45 pm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
> >> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>
> >> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
> >> >just a rumor.
>
> >> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen can play RF LF
> >> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
> >> second coming of Jose Valetin at SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
> >> should allow him to flourish)
> >> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
> >> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
> >> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>
> >> Jim
>
> >I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
> >right that it will be a decent transaction.
> >Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
>
> He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
> this past season was pretty mediocre. For an outfielder, it was
> pretty weak. Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
> guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
>
> BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
> about guys who can play one really well?
According to the Sun Times if the deal is made Beckham will move to
2B. I don't like that idea as Ramirez is weak at SS. Teahen is not
that strong at 3B so we will see continued defensive weakness in the
IF. With the pitching the SOX have defense should be the first
priority.
mercutio
wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:53:50 -0800 (PST), Alfred
><behyndb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 5, 5:45ÔøΩpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>>
>>> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >On Nov 5, 1:06ÔøΩpm, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
>>> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>>>
>>> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
>>> >just a rumor.
>>>
>>> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen ÔøΩcan play RF LF
>>> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
>>> second coming of ÔøΩJose Valetin ÔøΩat SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
>>> should allow him to flourish)
>>> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
>>> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
>>> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>
>>
>>I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
>>right that it will be a decent transaction.
>>Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
>
>He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
>this past season was pretty mediocre. For an outfielder, it was
>pretty weak.
His numbers aren't really that far off Dye's numbers
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/index.jsp?c_id=cws
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=113679
.Teahan hits for better average w/ more doubles . Dye more homers with
a lower average. The way I see it they are a trade off offensively
but Teahan can play several positions ,is faster and better
defensively
Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
>guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
Getz seemed a bit fragile to me and average fielding /.250 hitting 2nd
basemen aren't really that tough to come by
>
>BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
>about guys who can play one really well?
Because they don't command the $$$ that a very good to great position
player would
Jim
mercutio
<white...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Nov 6, 5:11ÔøΩam, Tom Benton <tben...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:53:50 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>>
>>
>>
>> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 5:45ÔøΩpm, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>
>> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 5, 1:06ÔøΩpm, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
>> >> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>>
>> >> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
>> >> >just a rumor.
>>
>> >> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen ÔøΩcan play RF LF
>> >> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
>> >> second coming of ÔøΩJose Valetin ÔøΩat SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
>> >> should allow him to flourish)
>> >> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
>> >> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
>> >> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>>
>> >> Jim
>>
>> >I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
>> >right that it will be a decent transaction.
>> >Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
>>
>> He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
>> this past season was pretty mediocre. ÔøΩFor an outfielder, it was
>> pretty weak. Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
>> guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
>>
>> BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
>> about guys who can play one really well?
>
>According to the Sun Times if the deal is made Beckham will move to
>2B. I don't like that idea as Ramirez is weak at SS. Teahen is not
>that strong at 3B so we will see continued defensive weakness in the
>IF. With the pitching the SOX have defense should be the first
>priority.
Got to wonder why they would do that to Beckham. He did everything
they asked last year, learned a new position at the major league level
and produced.. They could put him a position that he could flourish
for many years and eventually be the next real star on this team.
Ramirez is Jose Valentin 2 ( making just enough great plays in the
field to give you hope that he will take the next step up to very good
and to make you overlook his erratic play on routine plays)without the
consistant power that Valentin displayed
To move Beckham to second makes no sense when Ramiez has proven he can
play second well (and has proven that he really isn't much of a SS)
So I guess in sort of a long winded way i'm saying I couldn't agreee
with you more
Jim
Tom Benton
wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:03:49 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
><white...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Nov 6, 5:11锟絘m, Tom Benton <tben...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:53:50 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On Nov 5, 5:45锟絧m, mercutio <jim013...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>>>
>>> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >> >On Nov 5, 1:06锟絧m, Alfred <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
>>> >> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>>>
>>> >> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
>>> >> >just a rumor.
>>>
>>> >> It would be a hell of a deal for the Sox. Mark Teahen 锟絚an play RF LF
>>> >> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
>>> >> second coming of 锟絁ose Valetin 锟絘t SS) and Beckham to SS ( which
>>> >> should allow him to flourish)
>>> >> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
>>> >> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
>>> >> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>>>
>>> >> Jim
>>>
>>> >I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
>>> >right that it will be a decent transaction.
>>> >Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
>>>
>>> He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
>>> this past season was pretty mediocre. 锟紽or an outfielder, it was
>>> pretty weak. Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
>>> guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
>>>
>>> BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
>>> about guys who can play one really well?
>>
>>According to the Sun Times if the deal is made Beckham will move to
>>2B. I don't like that idea as Ramirez is weak at SS. Teahen is not
>>that strong at 3B so we will see continued defensive weakness in the
>>IF. With the pitching the SOX have defense should be the first
>>priority.
>
>Got to wonder why they would do that to Beckham. He did everything
>they asked last year, learned a new position at the major league level
>and produced.. They could put him a position that he could flourish
>for many years and eventually be the next real star on this team.
>Ramirez is Jose Valentin 2 ( making just enough great plays in the
>field to give you hope that he will take the next step up to very good
>and to make you overlook his erratic play on routine plays)without the
>consistant power that Valentin displayed
>To move Beckham to second makes no sense when Ramiez has proven he can
>play second well (and has proven that he really isn't much of a SS)
>So I guess in sort of a long winded way i'm saying I couldn't agreee
>with you more
>Jim
Gotta say, I was thinking the same thing myself.
sdrahcir
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:03:49 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
>
>
> >On Nov 6, 5:11Êam, Tom Benton <tben...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 00:53:50 -0800 (PST), Alfred
>
> >> <behyndbluee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:28:26 -0800 (PST), sdrahcir
>
> >> >> <whitesox...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> The newest report states that the White Sox have traded two players to
> >> >> >> K.C. for Mark Teahan.
>
> >> >> >The rumor is Chris Getz & Josh Fields, but as I type this it is still
> >> >> >just a rumor.
>
> >> >> 1st and 3d (wow a real live 3d baseman) Ramirez to 2nd ( he was the
> >> >> should allow him to flourish)
> >> >> With the signing of Kotsay (another good move by KW . I never thought
> >> >> I would say that) probably spells the end for Dye. We become stronger
> >> >> in the outfield defensively without losing any offensive production.
>
> >> >> Jim
>
> >> >I've always thought Teahen was a pretty good player and I think you're
> >> >right that it will be a decent transaction.
> >> >Nice speed and has always been a thorn in the foot versus the WS.
>
> >> He is a good player, but nothing special as I see it. His production
> >> pretty weak. Having said that, I like Getz but we do have one or two
> >> guys in the minors that look like they might be ready at 2nd.
>
> >> BTW, does KW like these guys who can play a number of positions. How
> >> about guys who can play one really well?
>
> >According to the Sun Times if the deal is made Beckham will move to
> >2B. I don't like that idea as Ramirez is weak at SS. Teahen is not
> >that strong at 3B so we will see continued defensive weakness in the
> >IF. With the pitching the SOX have defense should be the first
> >priority.
>
> Got to wonder why they would do that to Beckham. He did everything
> they asked last year, learned a new position at the major league level
> and produced.. They could put him a position that he could flourish
> for many years and eventually be the next real star on this team.
> Ramirez is Jose Valentin 2 ( making just enough great plays in the
> field to give you hope that he will take the next step up to very good
> and to make you overlook his erratic play on routine plays)without the
> consistant power that Valentin displayed
> To move Beckham to second makes no sense when Ramiez has proven he can
> play second well (and has proven that he really isn't much of a SS)
> So I guess in sort of a long winded way i'm saying I couldn't agreee
> with you more
> Jim
It makes no sense. Ramirez is not a good shortstop.