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bismotwitter

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:49:46 PM1/5/10
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# Bill Hall! I know he's the ultimate "does a lot of things, but few
of them well" guy, but I actually kind of like him as utility player.

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:51:15 PM1/5/10
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# I still have faith in Kotchman, and hope he gets to play every day
for Seattle. Great glove, though he needs to hit .300 to be viable.

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:53:14 PM1/5/10
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# Peter the Tweeter, Mr. Gammons, the Hall of Famer, debuts on MLB
Network tomorrow--appropriately to welcome his new HOF brethren!

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:58:55 PM1/5/10
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# Ellsbury will be LF. Makes sense--looked great in '07-08, while
Cameron's better CF. Still have some issues w/team, but D is amazing!

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:08:49 PM1/5/10
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# Math is crazy, but Sox reportedly save $5M "cap" space in
Kotchman-Hall deal. Brewers are paying most of Hall's salary.

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:12:15 PM1/5/10
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# Hall's offense has been in total freefall. Was good in 2005-06. Good
UZRs at 3B/CF, average at 2B/SS (but hasn't played SS since '06).

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:14:25 PM1/5/10
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# With the great defense now assembled in Boston, I would absolutely
love to see Theo sign Chien-Ming Wang, though competition is fierce.

Gary

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Jan 5, 2010, 7:58:04 PM1/5/10
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:08:49 -0500, bismotwitter <bi...@ix.netcom.com>
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># Math is crazy, but Sox reportedly save $5M "cap" space in
>Kotchman-Hall deal. Brewers are paying most of Hall's salary.

Boston is getting money back which also helps in regard to the luxury
tax.

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:24:42 PM1/5/10
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# The Great Randy Johnson has retired. What a career! 303 wins, 5 Cy
Youngs, 4875 strikeouts. He wasn't likeable, but he was unhittable.

Wayback1918

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:34:05 AM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 7:14 pm, bismotwitter <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> # With the great defense now assembled in Boston, I would absolutely
> love to see Theo sign Chien-Ming Wang, though competition is fierce.

That's a good idea.....

It is a little curious that Theo stressed defense so much and the Red
Sox are one the more extreme fly-ball teams in the league. ....

.

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:44:06 PM1/5/10
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> # Ellsbury will be LF. Makes sense--looked great in '07-08, while
> Cameron's better CF. Still have some issues w/team, but D is amazing!

Weak LF bat.

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Jan 5, 2010, 10:47:48 PM1/5/10
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"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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> # With the great defense now assembled in Boston, I would absolutely
> love to see Theo sign Chien-Ming Wang, though competition is fierce.

I don't care much for Cashman but I will give him that he tends to pay or
over pay players until they aren't useful anymore. I believe Wang's goose
is cooked and I'd still rather see Bedard or Sheets as a flier.

bismotwitter

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:48:13 PM1/6/10
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@S/B: I think Sheets priced himself out of Boston's range. Bedard is
good but said to be a jerk. Wang might be done, but IMHO worth a shot.

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:50:17 PM1/6/10
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@S/B: I agree Sox lineup could be better & would swap Ellsbury for a
big bat. But I do think he's getting better & will have a good year.

Mortimer

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:52:18 PM1/6/10
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On Jan 5, 10:24 pm, bismotwitter <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> # The Great Randy Johnson has retired. What a career! 303 wins, 5 Cy
> Youngs, 4875 strikeouts. He wasn't likeable, but he was unhittable.

Kudos to the "Big Unit" for a prolific career. He'll probably be go
down as one of the 5 greatest starting LHP in the history of MLB
(along with Grove, Spahn, Carlton, among others)...

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Jan 6, 2010, 6:55:16 PM1/6/10
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@Wayback: Yeah, Buchholz seems to be the only real GB guy on the
staff. Actually, with new D I'm glad Theo kept Clay--he could blossom.

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:11:43 PM1/6/10
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@Mortimer: Yep, I'd add Koufax to round out an incredible southpaw
rotation. RJ was amazing. He looked like he was 12 feet tall on mound.

Gary

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Jan 6, 2010, 7:58:36 PM1/6/10
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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:44:06 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtib...@yahoo.com>
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Is the offense any better if Cameron plays left and Ellsbury center?
Whether they need more offense is a question, but switching Ells and
Cameron has nothing to do with that.

Dano

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Jan 6, 2010, 8:17:09 PM1/6/10
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"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> @S/B: I agree Sox lineup could be better & would swap Ellsbury for a
> big bat. But I do think he's getting better & will have a good year.

What big bat? Someone in mind? You need a trade partner that wants what
you're offering.


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Jan 7, 2010, 7:38:03 PM1/7/10
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@Dano: I just meant a general philosophy, that I'd rather have another
big bat. Boat sailed on Holliday, Bay, Cabrera, AG, and that's fine.

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Jan 7, 2010, 7:39:08 PM1/7/10
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@Gary: I agree. For all intents & purposes, the replacement for Bay is
Cameron rather than Ellsbury. If both are here, Cammy should be CF.

Dano

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:16:59 PM1/7/10
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"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> @Dano: I just meant a general philosophy, that I'd rather have another
> big bat. Boat sailed on Holliday, Bay, Cabrera, AG, and that's fine.

Cabrera and Adrian Gonzalez haven't gone anywhere to the best of my
knowledge.

As Mick sang...you can't always get what you want...

I bet you know how the rest goes.


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Jan 8, 2010, 4:29:02 PM1/8/10
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"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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That's not the point, the point is that if we have a viable CF option then
we shouldn't settle for Ellsbury in LF if we can add power there.

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Jan 8, 2010, 4:30:33 PM1/8/10
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"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message

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> @Gary: I agree. For all intents & purposes, the replacement for Bay is
> Cameron rather than Ellsbury. If both are here, Cammy should be CF.

I agree, that makes Ellsbury expendable. They should get something while
they can for him. Weak hitting LF's aren't very valuable on the trade
market.

Wayback1918

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Jan 8, 2010, 4:36:03 PM1/8/10
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I think it would be tough to make the case that Ellsbury doesn't have
substantial trade value.

Gary

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:37:04 PM1/8/10
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:30:33 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtib...@yahoo.com>
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Except that Ellsbury isn't weak hitting LF'r.

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:54:52 PM1/8/10
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@Dano: Not sure what you're getting at. Theo's lineup is presumably
complete. I didn't agree with all his moves, but I hope they work out.

bismotwitter

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:58:00 PM1/8/10
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@Gary: No, Ellsbury could be excellent all-around LF, in the mold of
Crawford, Raines, Rickey, despite lacking power associated w/position.

Dano

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:01:01 PM1/8/10
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"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And they wonder why guys aren't always "team" players.


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Jan 8, 2010, 7:02:19 PM1/8/10
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@Gary: I do have some fears with Cameron. He's old and could decline;
UZRs usually but not always good; no guarantee Fenway means big stats.

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:03:40 PM1/8/10
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@S/B: These are 2 separate issues. One is whether Boston should have
Jacoby/Cameron in same OF; other is who plays where if answer is yes.

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:09:18 PM1/8/10
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@Dano: Mind you, I'm not trashing Theo. I appreciate his hard work and
the rewards it's given us, and I do unequivocally love Lackey signing.

Dano

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:59:27 PM1/8/10
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"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> @Dano: Not sure what you're getting at. Theo's lineup is presumably
> complete. I didn't agree with all his moves, but I hope they work out.

Well since you insist on this foolish twit talk I have no friggin' clue what
it is YOU'RE referring to. No way to converse properly.


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Jan 9, 2010, 3:29:56 AM1/9/10
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"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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You are correct, according to ESPN only 31 LFs had more HRs than him.

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Jan 9, 2010, 3:34:23 AM1/9/10
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> @S/B: These are 2 separate issues. One is whether Boston should have
> Jacoby/Cameron in same OF; other is who plays where if answer is yes.

I agree Cameron should play CF if they are both here, and if Cameron were
not here I'd be happy with Ellsbury in CF but since they are both here and
they have some CF prospects I'd rather see Ellsbury traded in a package
while he has some value for a middle of the order bat.

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:29:16 AM1/9/10
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@S/B: That's valid. I do like Ellsbury better than Cameron, so my
preference would've been to keep Jacoby & sign Holliday. C'est la vie.

Gary

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:32:30 AM1/9/10
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 03:29:56 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtib...@yahoo.com>
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>
>"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 16:30:33 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtib...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>
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>>>"bismotwitter" <bi...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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>>>> @Gary: I agree. For all intents & purposes, the replacement for Bay is
>>>> Cameron rather than Ellsbury. If both are here, Cammy should be CF.
>>>
>>>I agree, that makes Ellsbury expendable. They should get something while
>>>they can for him. Weak hitting LF's aren't very valuable on the trade
>>>market.
>>
>>
>> Except that Ellsbury isn't weak hitting LF'r.
>
>You are correct, according to ESPN only 31 LFs had more HRs than him.

Oh, hitting HRs is the only thing then.

Gary

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:33:48 AM1/9/10
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On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 03:34:23 -0500, "S/B 954RR" <jtib...@yahoo.com>
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They don't have any CF prospects that can play this year or next.

Ellsbury has value for this team even if he isn't a power hitter.

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Jan 9, 2010, 9:41:23 AM1/9/10
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@Gary: Reddick & Kalish aren't far but project as RFs. Westy & Fuentes
best pure CFs but they're 3 yrs+ away. Lin's closer but bat is fringe.

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Jan 9, 2010, 10:34:31 AM1/9/10
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"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Yes since my whole point is that Ellsbury is weak and that I wanted to see a
power bat in LF.

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Jan 9, 2010, 10:40:29 AM1/9/10
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"Gary" <golfe...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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And they don't need one this year or next, they have Cameron.

> Ellsbury has value for this team even if he isn't a power hitter.

Everyone has a degree of value and everyone can be upgraded.

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Jan 11, 2010, 9:46:57 AM1/11/10
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"Wayback1918" <wayba...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I wasn't trying to, in a couple of years though when he might just be
another Podsednik he won't have much value.

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