Gee, I wonder how many ???

Don Violette

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 7:32:39 AM10/5/12

to

Red Sox non-interim managers got canned after just one season?

--
"Okay, if you're going to question the
importance of an actor's signature on a
plastic helmet from a movie based on a
comic book then all of our lives have no
meaning"!!!

Wayback1918

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 8:17:36 AM10/5/12

to

4

Dano

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 12:12:48 PM10/5/12

to

"Don Violette" wrote in message
news:19770-50...@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net...

Red Sox non-interim managers got canned after just one season?

===============================================

I'd point out that you accidently hit the reason he failed. He always WAS
an interim manager. I think everyone (including BV) knew he wouldn't be
given much leash.

N...@gmail.com

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 3:19:10 PM10/5/12

to

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:12:48 -0400, "Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I'd point out that you accidently hit the reason he failed. He always WAS
>an interim manager. I think everyone (including BV) knew he wouldn't be
>given much leash.
>

IMHO you're wrong. He failed because the manager and owners
utimately have no power over players who have enormous egos,
are extremely overpaid, and have little motivation to perform.

Of all the jobs in baseball manager has got to be the worst.

Players make mega bucks, turn in a louy job, and get away with
it. Managemnt has little power to do anything about it, except to
trade the player to another sucker (team).

The players perform badly, but it is the manager who
is the one who gets fired in the end. The manager gets
fired becuas you can't fire the players.

Dano

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 4:17:39 PM10/5/12

to

wrote in message news:d8cu68tdsqa8ti339...@4ax.com...

=====================================

All I'll say is that if I actually believed that...I would stop watching
altogether. Are you THAT much of a masochist to subject yourself to that
treatment from players? IF you actually believe that yourself...you would
really have to be a moron to pay five seconds of attention...let alone spend
money to watch at the park...or even watch for free on the tube. Is your
time worth so little my friend?

McDuck

unread,

Oct 5, 2012, 5:21:29 PM10/5/12

to

Really? In most entertainment businesses, including professional
sports, the "talent" gets a fairly good hunk of the take. Baseball
players were once woefully underpaid as a group. Now, the take of the
players from baseball seems around right.

Of course, some individual players (younger stars) are underpaid and
some aging former stars are overpaid. No team, no system, gets that
stuff exactly right. But is Ortiz overpaid relative to, for example,
the stars of "Castle" or some other hit TV show or movie? Doubt it.

Athletes as a group are extremely competitive, so it takes some
special circumstances for them not to be motivated to play their best.
I suspect it is more common for an actor to "mail it in" than a ball
player.

If you want to talk overpaid, start with investment bankers. At least
ball players can be entertaining.

I do agree that if players underperform, the manager's job is at risk.
That's a good and a bad thing, depending on why the players
underperformed.
>

Tristan daCunha

unread,

Oct 6, 2012, 11:04:57 AM10/6/12

to

Re: Gee, I wonder how many ???

Group: alt.sports.baseball.bos-redsox Date: Fri, Oct 5, 2012, 5:21pm
From: wallymcdu...@comcast.net (McDuck)

*********************************************
Howzabout no talent ambulance chasers who wind up "teaching"?
You still groping in the Harrington?
Just askin'....